The Ruins: Derrick Kosinski - MTV

[QUOTE=4realWORLD;171067]JEK respects Derrick, I like it.[/QUOTE] That's very true. I think that if Evan and Kenny had to chose between throwing Derrick under the bus or Johnny, they'd get rid of Johnny hands down.

[QUOTE=4realWORLD;171067]JEK respects Derrick, I like it.[/QUOTE] Pretty much everyone respects Derricks. To be honest, I think he now has one of the best social games, hands down. He gets everyone to like him and respect him as a competitor, so they take him to the end (generally, it's JEK). And he very rarely has to make any dirty moves on his own, so he's not really siding against other people and getting them to dislike him.

[QUOTE=yankeegurl93;171088]That's very true. I think that if Evan and Kenny had to chose between throwing Derrick under the bus or Johnny, they'd get rid of Johnny hands down.[/QUOTE] That already happened. Johnny was more disposable to them than Derrick on the ruins.

Derrick has earned the respect. Johnny is like a child, Evan and Kenny owns him.

I think Johnny knows he needs the Alliance and let's them own him. He can't do the game and win without them. He'll always be owned by them until he can get out from under their shadow, more like just Evan's shadow than Kenny's.

Won't they own Johnny until they can find someone better to fill the void as is the case with Derrick if someone came along and was willing to ride the coattails of KED don't you think they would dump him if a better option allowed them to have a better chance to win?

it depends on Johnny and if he finds his own Alliance without them. He'll stick with them and hang around until they make a big deal about pushing him away or they continue to throw him under the bus as often as possible.

Look, JEK alliance will not control the Challenge forever. Someday they will lose ant their friendship or alliance will end.

[QUOTE=4realWORLD;171450]Look, JEK alliance will not control the Challenge forever. Someday they will lose ant their friendship or alliance will end.[/QUOTE] And when that happens. I will be one happy camper.

haha. maybe. But there will always be someone who wants to control everything. Unless JEK will be Wes. If not Wes then to be someone else. This is just my opinion.

I would like to see some old schoolers show up, join with Derrick, and just run JEK into the ground at least once.

[QUOTE=4realWORLD;171462]haha. maybe. But there will always be someone who wants to control everything. Unless JEK will be Wes. If not Wes then to be someone else. This is just my opinion.[/QUOTE] Right but what I hope is that they won't be irritating to watch like JEK is. But Back to Derrick...I still remember a little bit of Derrick from His Time on Road Rules.

[QUOTE=Debut Album;171478]Right but what I hope is that they won't be irritating to watch like JEK is. But Back to Derrick...I still remember a little bit of Derrick from His Time on Road Rules.[/QUOTE] As do I...additionally, I remember his first few challenges and Derrick was ALWAYS having to prove himself to the older members, i.e., Eric, Mark, Abe, Tim, Theo, etc...They threw him to the lions a few times and he was one of the guys that had NO social game and ONLY his athletic skill to dig him out of tight spots. I think the smartest move Derrick ever made was somewhere around Inferno 3 when he announced that he learned his lesson and would try harder not to open his opinionated mouth up. He also found himself in a great situation to align with Kenny, Evan and Johnny, the new Challenge dominators. He seems to play it much safer now than before but unlike Kenny & Johnny, I think if Derrick would go far regardless of who he was aligned with. (Even when Kenny does go far or even wins, it's never without help) Ok, just my opinion. =)

I miss this guy... I'm waiting for his REAL return with normal winning. I want to see Derrick, not JEKD.