[QUOTE=molds13;290760]Ratings from TVByTheNumbers:
1.397 viewers; adults 18-49: 0.9
Compare this to the last few season finales:
Las Vegas: 2.180 (1.2)
NOLA: 1.708 (0.9)
DC: 1.100 (0.6)
Cancun: 2.049 (1.2)
Not good. I suspect next season will be the last.[/QUOTE]
DC is still the lowest rated season lol but I pray Season 27. And this upcoming challenges are the last.
[QUOTE=molds13;290760]Ratings from TVByTheNumbers:
1.397 viewers; adults 18-49: 0.9
Compare this to the last few season finales:
Las Vegas: 2.180 (1.2)
NOLA: 1.708 (0.9)
DC: 1.100 (0.6)
Cancun: 2.049 (1.2)
Not good. I suspect next season will be the last.[/QUOTE]
Man I really hope not but I can already see it happening. Not unless somehow the next season goes Back To Vegas style and has some pretty interesting storylines, let's hope...
[QUOTE=molds13;290760] Not good. I suspect next season will be the last.[/QUOTE]
Oh Ye of little faith. Unless they have a Teen Mom spinoff with twenty-something grandparents in the works, the series will be around awhile still.
[QUOTE=FishHooks;290763]Oh Ye of little faith. Unless they have a Teen Mom spinoff with twenty-something grandparents in the works,[B] the series will be around awhile still.[/B][/QUOTE]
Oh ye of too much faith...
[QUOTE=molds13;290760]Ratings from TVByTheNumbers:
1.397 viewers; adults 18-49: 0.9
Compare this to the last few season finales:
Las Vegas: 2.180 (1.2)
NOLA: 1.708 (0.9)
DC: 1.100 (0.6)
Cancun: 2.049 (1.2)
Not good. I suspect next season will be the last.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, though if BMP hasn't settled on a location for Season 27, I assume they'd again be looking for another location to sort of rekindle the ratings magic that RW25 did.
[QUOTE=awa88;290775]Agreed, though if BMP hasn't settled on a location for Season 27, I assume they'd again be looking for another location to sort of rekindle the ratings magic that RW25 did.[/QUOTE]
I'm almost positive they have a location picked out and have for some time. However, with what I've been hearing from the type of people who have been making it far in interviews, they are not going for that kind of magic.
Although this season has been drained of total viewers, it still manages to pull decent demo ratings. @_@
A .9 in the 18-49 demo is not that bad, but then again - it's not the network's main focus.
Better luck next season!
[QUOTE=molds13;290766]Oh ye of too much faith...[/QUOTE]
Negative. I have a reasonable and rational amount of faith that MTV is unlikely to have anything to replace it with that has built-in advertising potential so they will just continue to water down the show and milk it for advertising since a great many of their new shows struggle. (That, and I think that someone there is smart enough to realize that the Jersey Shore thing will eventually collapse and they are going to need something other than Teen Mom VI and Teen Wolf III to fill the void).
I think (though I don't work for BMP or know anyone that has) that MTV will renew the real world for 1 or 2 more seasons, because, after the Las Vegas season, they know that the Real World, with a good cast, still has the potential to do really well. I wouldn't be surprised though, if the 27th season is the last.
[QUOTE=ballinbroken;290808]I think (though I don't work for BMP or know anyone that has) that MTV will renew the real world for 1 or 2 more seasons, because, after the Las Vegas season, they know that the Real World, with a good cast, still has the potential to do really well. I wouldn't be surprised though, if the 27th season is the last.[/QUOTE]
If BMP realized that viewers apparently like seasons like Vegas, why are they currently casting for a more serious season similar to DC? It makes absolutely no sense to me as well as probably a majority of people.
The Real World does have a potential to do well. BMP just isn't doing what they need to do to make it so.
[QUOTE=molds13;290811]If BMP realized that viewers apparently like seasons like Vegas, why are they currently casting for a more serious season similar to DC? It makes absolutely no sense to me as well as probably a majority of people.
The Real World does have a potential to do well. BMP just isn't doing what they need to do to make it so.[/QUOTE]
Well I thought that Ryan Conklin was the perfect Real World character even though he wasn't a crazy party guy, because he brought a lot of new traits to the Real World. However, I preferred New Orleans, Cancun, and Las Vegas much more than Brooklyn and DC. I do think it is weird that BMP thinks its a good idea to cast for serious people (Maybe they want to clean up the Real World's image before its over).
[QUOTE=ballinbroken;290808]I think (though I don't work for BMP or know anyone that has) that MTV will renew the real world for 1 or 2 more seasons, because, after the Las Vegas season, they know that the Real World, with a good cast, still has the potential to do really well. I wouldn't be surprised though, if the 27th season is the last.[/QUOTE]
Isn't it contracted until season 28? I swear that was what was announced back when Vegas II came out.
[QUOTE=some guy;290827]Isn't it contracted until season 28? I swear that was what was announced back when Vegas II came out.[/QUOTE]
Season 29 actually, they renewed it for 3 more seasons not including San Diego because it was already in progress. At least i think that's what happened.
[QUOTE=jesses_girl;290829]Season 29 actually, they renewed it for 3 more seasons not including San Diego because it was already in progress. At least i think that's what happened.[/QUOTE]
nevermind...i just answered my own question. its actually only renewed until 28.
[url=http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-real-world-renewed-for-two-more-seasons-of-pre,53558/]The Real World renewed for two more seasons of pretending to be about more than just getting drunk people to fight | TV | Newswire | The A.V. Club[/url]
There probably isn't anything fatal about consistent 1.3 ratings in 18-34 demo that are going to cause MTV to junk the series before season 29, but certainly ad buyers are going to be looking for the network to recapture viewers from the Vegas season who didn't return to watch RW:SD. This is one substantial purpose served by the Challenges. The Challenges tend to bring back to the network a substantial number of viewers who opt out of watching RW on Wed evening. I now find myself in this category.
I think readers here forget that both RW and the challenges used to be regularly listed in the week's "Top 10" cable shows in the 18-34 demographic. (a list published every week by Media Life Magazine). Now we must hope that either futoncritic.com or TVByTheNumbers.com might just offer up the current RW or challenge rating practically as an afterthought. Sad. Neither show is the driving force it once was in the cable reality ad market.
There are a lot of really good scripted cable TV shows now that the earlier seasons didn't have to compete with, and a lot more cable networks in the game at a time when people are moving toward internet/on-demand entertainment. Just with my own habits, my TV seems to stay on 1 or 2 networks that have the couple shows I watch most even when they aren't on. If I miss other shows I like in the process, it is no big deal to me because I can watch them online or download them. I am sure someone somewhere knows the numbers, but RW and the Challenges might still have more viewers who regularly watch them, but they regularly watch them other than on TV the first night a new episode airs. Advertisers and TV exec's will hopefully find someone to adapt together to the rapidly changing dynamics.
[QUOTE=V1man;290837]
I think readers here forget that both RW and the challenges used to be regularly listed in the week's "Top 10" cable shows in the 18-34 demographic. (a list published every week by Media Life Magazine). Now we must hope that either futoncritic.com or TVByTheNumbers.com might just offer up the current RW or challenge rating practically as an afterthought. Sad. Neither show is the driving force it once was in the cable reality ad market.[/QUOTE]
As a long time viewer of the Challenges and Real World to see how low the ratings have gotten is still something I don't fully understand. Obviously the show is no longer in its heyday but within the last 3/4 years it’s lost at least 3-4 million viewers.
Part of the problem imo is MTV. Once MTV got Teen Mom and Jersey Shore, they completely neglected their other shows - especially TRW and the Challenges. They don't even bother promoting them nearly as much as they once did, which sometimes makes me feel like the network has already made its decision on the fate of the show. Also, I hope they realize shows like Teen Mom and Jersey Shore won't be around for long, slowly they're starting to lose their steam. As opposed to a show like TRW that is timeless imo. There's a reason why it’s one of the longest reality shows in television history but I doubt advertisers and MTV care since its not bringing in ratings which also means less money.
[QUOTE=FishHooks;290838]There are a lot of really good scripted cable TV shows now that the earlier seasons didn't have to compete with, and a lot more cable networks in the game at a time when people are moving toward internet/on-demand entertainment. Just with my own habits, my TV seems to stay on 1 or 2 networks that have the couple shows I watch most even when they aren't on. If I miss other shows I like in the process, it is no big deal to me because I can watch them online or download them. I am sure someone somewhere knows the numbers, but RW and the Challenges might still have more viewers who regularly watch them, but they regularly watch them other than on TV the first night a new episode airs. Advertisers and TV exec's will hopefully find someone to adapt together to the rapidly changing dynamics.[/QUOTE]
There is a clear industry pathway in the works that probably will be "universal" far too soon: watching online with the software forcing you to play every commercial entirely, no downloading and no fast forwarding through commercials as one can online with TIVO or DVR. Today about 85% of my viewing is via DVR without watching a single commercial.
[QUOTE=V1man;290840]There is a clear industry pathway in the works that probably will be "universal" far too soon: watching online with the software forcing you to play every commercial entirely, no downloading and no fast forwarding through commercials as one can online with TIVO or DVR. Today about 85% of my viewing is via DVR without watching a single commercial.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this. The only things I watch live and where I sit through the commercials are the challenges, and sporting events. A lot of people are online now. The record for most views of a youtube video in 2009 was 100,000,000 and the most views of a youtube video now is aroudn 700,000,000.
Trying to force people to watch commercials really just encourages the illegal download sites where things are posted commercial free. I don't mind commercials so much as other people on TV but they annoy me online because they are not streamed into the show but load separately which can be glitchy. Like on MTV site, the commercials always play well but the video content not always so well with some hang-ups as it switches from commercial to content. I think they would be better off just making everything downloadable for free from the network sites with commercials in just like the broadcast. It would make the illegal sites less attractive to some, allow the networks to be able to get a better idea of how their shows are doing, and, in time, advertisers will adjust to a new version of the old model. Not being able to fast-forward through commercials would also prevent people from watching shows in bits and pieces.
Anyway, now that production on MythBusters is suspended after they accidentally sent a cannonball flying through two houses and into a mini-van, maybe Real World will pick up a few viewers :)
[QUOTE=FishHooks;290844]Trying to force people to watch commercials really just encourages the illegal download sites where things are posted commercial free. I don't mind commercials so much as other people on TV but they annoy me online because they are not streamed into the show but load separately which can be glitchy. Like on MTV site, the commercials always play well but the video content not always so well with some hang-ups as it switches from commercial to content. I think they would be better off just making everything downloadable for free from the network sites with commercials in just like the broadcast. It would make the illegal sites less attractive to some, allow the networks to be able to get a better idea of how their shows are doing, and, in time, advertisers will adjust to a new version of the old model. Not being able to fast-forward through commercials would also prevent people from watching shows in bits and pieces.
Anyway, now that production on MythBusters is suspended after they accidentally sent a cannonball flying through two houses and into a mini-van, maybe Real World will pick up a few viewers :)[/QUOTE]
The first few major suits against the illegal download sites either just complete or are about to begin. One was the UFC vs the owners of JustinTV. I recall the judgment against JustinTV for piracy was about $50,000. I'm tangentially involved as an investor in another one against JustinTV that will potentially be for $1.4M in actual damages and another $150,000 for each individual violation (download). These suits, as the networks join in, will do the same thing to the video download sites as they did to illegal music downloading.
If people are not allowed to watch in a way that they want to be able to watch, more people who otherwise would watch will not watch than will. The Real World is not a unique commodity nor is it outstanding anymore.
[QUOTE=FishHooks;290853]If people are not allowed to watch in a way that they want to be able to watch, more people who otherwise would watch will not watch than will. The Real World is not a unique commodity nor is it outstanding anymore.[/QUOTE]
Um, the point is that soon none of us will be able to watch [I]anything[/I] the way we would prefer. Thus, having been collectively screwed, we can then watch as the well-herded sheep we'll have become, or we can read a book.
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;290877]I'm still confused as to why if the ratings are so bad they still renew it. I feel cheated, lol.[/QUOTE]
I think they renewed it through season 27 during/after the Vegas season, when ratings were high.
[QUOTE=TheKneeGrow;291202]NEWS:
The upcoming season of the Real World will take place in: *drum roll*
Pittsburgh![/QUOTE]
*drum roll*
Any moron can edit Wikipedia!
Apart from being in the wrong thread, there is no substantiated evidence that the next season of the Real World will be in Pittsburgh.
This San Diego season seemed like the Key West season to me, even though I liked the cast and there's a good possibility if the Challenges are renewed again we'll propbably see this San Diego cast all the time like the Key West cast, but the reason they seem familiar to me is that both casts had fun characters but they really didnt do anything that stood out, and both of their seasons came after a very popular season Key West followed Austin which was voted the most popular season at the Real World Awards Bash and San Diego followed Las Vegas which brought the Real World back from near death.
All the work Vegas and Rivals did down the drain. Let's hope Battle of the Exes and the next RR season make a comeback. The viewers were there at the start of San Diego and they lost interest. Need to cast some crazies next time.
For as lackluster as this season was the ratings weren't [I]as[/I] bad as I thought they would be. I was thinking for sure they would fall under a million but they didn't. It's gonna be an uphill battle for Battle of the Exes to get the challenges renewed. Enjoy this challenge I have a feeling it might be the last.
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