The Real World: Portland - Welcome to the Sh*t Show!

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The Law Doesn't need to get involved in this. What is all this about Criminal Charges?
[QUOTE=Debut Album;347226]The Law Doesn't need to get involved in this. What is all this about Criminal Charges? You all need to stop this Overdramatic BS.[/QUOTE] Actually, from what V1Man said, the Portland City Council is looking into it because city and state laws for domestic abuse may have been broken. Permits were issued for filming which required production to be compliant with those laws. By permitting such things to occur, they may have broken those laws and invalidated the permits which could also result in a civil lawsuit which would affect BMP and VIACOM (who owns MTV). If that occurs, the producers of this particular season will most likely lose more than just their jobs.
Yes, it occurred on US soil, or, more specifically, it occurred in Portland, ORGEON, which is about 3000 miles away from Nia's hometown in Atlanta, GEORGIA. You really think the DA is going to go out of their way to take the time and resources needed to go all the way from Portland to Atlanta pick up Nia, arrest her and extradite her on a plane to Portland over a domestic dispute, misdemeanor charge? LMAO. [QUOTE=Desertpuma;347224]If you actually watch the CT vs Adam fight, you can see the producers and just about the entire Challenge male cast trying to hold CT back as he hits Adam more than once, destroys a door, and chases after Adam. Then they keep themselves between both men in an effort to stop anything else from happening. Another thing, CT vs Adam was not on US soil. RW Portland is not only on US soil but production is seriously negligent in allowing this to happen. As for whether or not crimes were committed and arrests are made, the footage is there and the District or State's Attorney can still pursue criminal charges for actions taken. They do not need permission from one of the victims to file because this is probable cause. Not only that, they can subpoena the raw footage from BMP and MTV as evidence of a crime being committed. As for the Reunion, I hope Coral is the host and shuts Nia down. I wonder if Nia can "speak into existence" parole.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Debut Album;347226]You all need to stop this Overdramatic BS.[/QUOTE] Debut Album telling people to stop being overdramatic. Talk about a plot twist!
[QUOTE=brunett;347228]Yes, it occurred on US soil, or, more specifically, it occurred in Portland, ORGEON, which is about 3000 miles away from Nia's hometown in Atlanta, GEORGIA. You really think the DA is going to go out of their way to take the time and resources needed to go all the way from Portland to Atlanta pick up Nia, arrest her and extradite her on a plane to Portland over a domestic dispute, misdemeanor charge? LMAO.[/QUOTE] I said the RW fight occurred on US soil. I said the CT vs Adam fight did not occur on US soil. As for the DA extraditing Nia to Portland? If he is trying to make a point about reality TV violence in his city and/or state, he just might.
[QUOTE=brunett;347228]Yes, it occurred on US soil, or, more specifically, it occurred in Portland, ORGEON, which is about 3000 miles away from Nia's hometown in Atlanta, GEORGIA. You really think the DA is going to go out of their way to take the time and resources needed to go all the way from Portland to Atlanta pick up Nia, arrest her and extradite her on a plane to Portland over a domestic dispute, misdemeanor charge? LMAO.[/QUOTE] Well, when she hit Johnny with the hair dryer, it becomes aggravated assault which is a felony.
I just watched Nia's after show interview on mtv.com and I'm even more disgusted with her. She has absolutely no remorse. She talks about not wanting to be "done" with the fight when she was waiting for Johnny outside the bathroom. I'm sorry, this is absolutely ridiculous. I'm disgusted with all 3 of them really (Johnny, Avery, and Nia) for resorting to violence, but Nia was absolutely in the wrong here. Again I don't approve of any of the violence but I feel like Nia absolutely got her retribution on Johnny for pouring the energy drink her by punching him hard in the head several times and he did nothing after that. The whole situation is stupid and I hope what we see next week is all 3 getting kicked out and the season ending then because of it. I don't know why I'm surprised by anything Nia does anymore, but this really tops the list. Johnny did not coax the "stereotypical black girl on tv" out of her like she says in the interview. She is just a terrible person with highly skewed views of the world and how society functions which she showed nearly every episode this season.
[QUOTE=Desertpuma;347227]Actually, from what V1Man said, the Portland City Council is looking into it because city and state laws for domestic abuse may have been broken. Permits were issued for filming which required production to be compliant with those laws. By permitting such things to occur, they may have broken those laws and invalidated the permits which could also result in a civil lawsuit which would affect BMP and VIACOM (who owns MTV). If that occurs, the producers of this particular season will most likely lose more than just their jobs.[/QUOTE] Really? Wow so This is gonna get serious.
[QUOTE=Bacchus;347217]That doesn't make it acceptable. We live in a civil society with a rule of law. Just because cameras are rolling doesn't absolve people from responsibility. There isn't a reality show loophole in the legal code.[/QUOTE] Well of course that doesn't make it acceptable. Fighting under any circumstance isn't ok but the fact that this fight happened on a reality television show that within itself trivializes it to a degree IMO. Reality tv is seen as mindless entertainment, people generally don't take it seriously which is why so many reality shows allow people to fight on them and there are no repercussions.
If I remember from a law course I took in college, there is some exception to being assaulted and/or battery. For example, a boxer can't press charges against another boxer if s/he is hit during a match. That said, I have to wonder if Real World castmembers sign something in their contract that says they are entering an environment where assault could occur, thus disallowing the ability to press charges.
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;347182]Not even close. Not at all.[/QUOTE] There is nothing to this season at all except the fights, and Nia who just sucks as a person in general
[QUOTE=dreamer;347192]Okay I think you all need to chill, I would let the fights happen too, they are ratings. Fights is what people tune in for. Blow dryer isn't a knife, calm the F down, she was never trying to bludgeon him to death or anything, you don't need to make this into a soap opera. They were getting good footage so why would they put a stop to it?[/QUOTE] I'm reading this thread and cannot believe what I see. I'm wondering who raised some of you people if you believe that physical violence is acceptable and you actually find it entertaining.
This show could be 40 minutes of Nia driving a bus full of children into a river and people would still be cheering because Nia is the "savior of TRW" and she's so ****** and does what she wants. Here's a newsflash: just because reality TV is going down the **** hole, doesn't mean you as viewers should go down with it.
[QUOTE=LouisGrip;347240]There is nothing to this season at all except the fights, and Nia who just sucks as a person in general[/QUOTE] Exactly. And its still better than San Diego.
[QUOTE=audreyhorne;347241]I'm reading this thread and cannot believe what I see. I'm wondering who raised some of you people if you believe that physical violence is acceptable and you actually find it entertaining.[/QUOTE] In certain situations, I do believe violence is totally acceptable. Yes it can be hard to watch, but I'm.not going to turn off the TV once I see it.
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;347243]Exactly. And its still better than San Diego.[/QUOTE] idk. tbh I'd rank them about the same. one interesting episode doesn't make up for the awful other 10.
[QUOTE=KevinW;347246]idk. tbh I'd rank them about the same. one interesting episode doesn't make up for the awful other 10.[/QUOTE] I don't think they were awful. Excluding the ones focusing on Johnny and averey, I've enjoyed this season.
[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;347247]I don't think they were awful. Excluding the ones focusing on Johnny and averey, I've enjoyed this season.[/QUOTE] true. I guess awful was the wrong word but moreso lackluster. overall I'd say a notch above San Diego.
I would like to thank Nia for making this season just that more interesting! Still a rather lame season, but this fight was awesome. Very glad the producers didn't step in to stop it, because it was straight entertainment. If only Averey won, it would have been that much better. But whatever, finally something interesting about this overall dull season.
[QUOTE=andrew;347235]If I remember from a law course I took in college, there is some exception to being assaulted and/or battery. For example, a boxer can't press charges against another boxer if s/he is hit during a match. That said, I have to wonder if Real World castmembers sign something in their contract that says they are entering an environment where assault could occur, thus disallowing the ability to press charges.[/QUOTE] It that is what you were taught and you feel comfortable making the association between a sport and a reality TV contract, then I'd suggest demanding a refund for that course. Seriously, though, there is no nexus. As a matter of law, no provision of a contract is enforceable if it stands contrary to other law in force. If it were not so (which is what MTV and BMP initially argued in Tonya Cooley v. MTV, Bunim Murray Productions, at alia), then that case would have never survived its first test in court.
[QUOTE=V1man;347255]It that is what you were taught and you feel comfortable making the association between a sport and a reality TV contract, then I'd suggest demanding a refund for that course. Seriously, though, there is no nexus. As a matter of law, no provision of a contract is enforceable if it stands contrary to other law in force. If it were not so (which is what MTV and BMP initially argued in Tonya Cooley v. MTV, Bunim Murray Productions, at alia), then that case would have never survived its first test in court.[/QUOTE] I see your point about contracts being null and void if something illegal is done. For example, if I agree to pay someone $100 to kill someone, and I don't pay, that person can't sue me for that $100. However, the part about not being able to discern the difference between reality TV and a sport is amusing. How are they not both forms of entertainment, with participants knowing what they are getting in to?
I think Nia continuing to fight is another aspect of her immaturity. If you "won" against Averey in the hallway, don't take it into the bedroom and keep going. And she said in the aftershow that she got portrayed as the "angry black woman" because of this. No...YOU brought that among yourself. Lots of people won't punch someone for throwing an energy drink at them, which isn't a violent act. Oh no, now you'll grow wings.
[QUOTE=cystic;347242]This show could be 40 minutes of Nia driving a bus full of children into a river and people would still be cheering because Nia is the "savior of TRW" and she's so ****** and does what she wants. Here's a newsflash: just because reality TV is going down the **** hole, doesn't mean you as viewers should go down with it.[/QUOTE] Although I don't condone fighting and acting crazy, in a way it is exciting TV to some, in that it portrays people acting in a manner that people never find IRL. Unless anyone here actually gets in fistfights and screaming arguments weekly(if so...that must be a terrible environment!), it's something different than what they experience in their regular life. Is it quality TV? I see it as a guilty pleasure...and some aspects cater to a certain group. I do agree that reality TV is kinda going down the ******. Survivor was very simple and fun. Then, reality dating shows(coughvh1cough), and those housewife thingies and Bad Girls Club(seriously...a show which endorses constant fighting??) sorta make me cringe. The original RW seasons were simple as well, in that the people there weren't there for camera time. As far as MTV goes, I've always loved the challenges. The Real World is something I'd flip to check out, but don't follow as much. This season is probably one of the few that I've seen almost all the episodes, mainly due to the hype it got beforehand.
[QUOTE=andrew;347258]I see your point about contracts being null and void if something illegal is done. For example, if I agree to pay someone $100 to kill someone, and I don't pay, that person can't sue me for that $100. However, the part about not being able to discern the difference between reality TV and a sport is amusing. How are they not both forms of entertainment, with participants knowing what they are getting in to?[/QUOTE] Well in one, physical contact is to expected so by participating both parties will have given their implied consent to the activity/contact; however this only applies to contact reasonably expected in the course of playing the sport. In the other there is no reasonable expectation of contact in Reality Television, so therefore there would be no implied consent.
Nia probably thinks this thread is about her. :dog: [QUOTE=Esquire;347262]Well in one, physical contact is to expected so by participating both parties will have given their implied consent to the activity/contact; however this only applies to contact reasonably expected in the course of playing the sport. In the other there is no reasonable expectation of contact in Reality Television, so therefore there would be no implied consent.[/QUOTE] [ATTACH]2104[/ATTACH]

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