The Real World: Portland - Welcome to the Sh*t Show!

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This being my first post, I would like to mention I have been reading these forums for a very long time but chose to stay away from registering and posting. Watching the posts coming in about this episode have turned me from just an avid reader of what you guys say, to jumping into the fire and putting in my opinion. First, I would like to say that Johnny was wrong in how he handled the **** thing with Nia; but lets be honest, these people are put on the show to make those comments to create this drama. Second, I need to agree with a few of you that have mentioned Nia as being delusional and self absorbed. The girl won't see anything any other way but her own; and sadly I think that will never change and she will be like this forever. Now, for the fight. Johnny, yet again shouldn't have done what he did. He did it. They don't want people on the show that are just going to say "oh ok Nia, sorry I'll clean the **** up". What Nia did there after was completely and utterly ******** in my mind. SURE, we want the drama; but "That escalated quickly". All things after her barrage of "hammerfists" to the back of Johnny's head was pathetic and I feel proud of Averey for sticking up for helpless Johnny; though I wish she did it in another way. Thanks for reading; can't wait to add opinion more on incoming topics
Fighting is standard on BGC so security and the producers are always prepared whenever they see that something's about to pop off.
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I think Jessica/Ana will vote for her to stay actually, they are close with her and didn't see the fight so they prob assume it's exaggerated. However i see how it looks like JOhny is being ridiculous with the poo thing, and i am not a fan of Johnny at all. But if you brag about overfeeding her dog, than you shoudl know the dog will poo more nad more and than you should take part int he cleaning process. If you are the "godmother" especially, it's not all joy with the dog, theirs also a lot of bad chores too. If she never cuddled with Daisy or took her around or cuddled with her, i would agree with Nia 100 percent it's not her responsibility to clean up after Daisy. But if she brags about giving her junk food, than Daisy poos from it, you shoudl help clean. I think that's common courtesy if you feed the dog and it goes, you help clean. You can't give a dog a pizza, than it gets sick, than tell Averey "oh the dog went again, you have to clean it up" that's bs. If it's not "your dog" than pet it here and there than let it be, don't feed it or overfeed it or claim it's yours when Daisy is good, than when she isn't, it's your dog not mine. Also i think at least 3 will vote for her to stay, the two above and Marlon, so that's 4-3 in my view for her staying. My personal opinion is that she have been escorted out of the house asap and sent packing with no question. She had the object in her hand after attacking Johnny, and even said what she was going to do with it.
[QUOTE=timster3;347139]Thank you. Regardless if you're an angry Javery fan who's mad that Nia beat them up. Or a Nia fan. We should all appreciate this episode instead of being SO negative.[/QUOTE] What is there to appreciate, the glorification of violence. That's absurd on its face.
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Johnny did all he could in the fight, he protected his face and let her go at it, the only true way to avoid any backlash on his part. Otherwise he would be in the same mess Jordan was in early after being overly provoked. NOt a place you want to be in. I hope COral is the reunion host and shuts Nia down again. Nia the bigtalker had very few comebacks for Coral and looked out of her element
[QUOTE=V1man;347151]What is there to appreciate, the glorification of violence. That's absurd on its face.[/QUOTE] Because it's entertaining and i'm not some casual fan who is "apauled" by violence on television and will claim that the show is going down the drain. It's MTV. If you don't like the drama, then don't watch it for the last time.
[QUOTE=jojorules;347152]Johnny did all he could in the fight, he protected his face and let her go at it, the only true way to avoid any backlash on his part. Otherwise he would be in the same mess Jordan was in early after being overly provoked. NOt a place you want to be in. I hope COral is the reunion host and shuts Nia down again. Nia the bigtalker had very few comebacks for Coral and looked out of her element[/QUOTE] I don't know why people want coral to host the reunion so bad. Her job is to host, not give her opinions. They won't allow her to tell off Nia. And although on the Aftershows it seemed as if Coral didn't like Nia, I think after this episode she'd appreciate her more. "I don't wrestle, I beat *****es up"
Jessica just doesn't wanna admit Tyler burned her and is running away from the issue. I side with Bird on that one. She's just playing the "I got hurt so I'm just gonna wait until I get married" card. News flash Jessica, marriage isn't perfect either. Have you seen this country's divorce rate? Seriously, why didn't Nia just clean up what she tracked through the house? Was she really gonna let that **** bomb dry on the floor and carpet? I understand she was totally repulsed by stepping in that fudge, but seriously, grow up.
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[QUOTE=timster3;347154]I don't know why people want coral to host the reunion so bad. Her job is to host, not give her opinions. They won't allow her to tell off Nia. And although on the Aftershows it seemed as if Coral didn't like Nia, I think after this episode she'd appreciate her more. "I don't wrestle, I beat *****es up"[/QUOTE] A host is supposed to be able to be not afriad to call people out if what they are saying on the reunion doesn't fit their acts, i have seen many challenge hosts do it, and many not do it and just let them all yell with no direction ...I think Coral asks them all hard questions, and will call them on their bs no matter who it is. I think that is what is needed and to show direction to what everyone is already thinking about certaint things that happen. If a host was just neeeded to ask questions that's it, than they would just use fan questions and not even bother with one, they have to moderate as well.
[QUOTE=timster3;347153]Because it's entertaining and i'm not some casual fan who is "apauled" by violence on television and will claim that the show is going down the drain. It's MTV. If you don't like the drama, then don't watch it for the last time.[/QUOTE] Welcome to vevmo, btw. I'm not a fan, so I don't see this the way some would on either side. I see it from a production perspective, from an insurer's risk perspective and as a former manager/agent/business partner of some past cast members. This stuff, imo, ruins what I valued from RW's early days as a cultural bow wave for social change in this county. I should quit watching, and actually did for several seasons beginning with Cancun. As long as there are challenges, and I have friends who participate, I'll probably still watch some of RW too, since there is a competitive nexus.
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It seems Ana/Jess are cool now, but i completely agree with what Ana said this episode, this Jessica is a complete act to me for the cameras. It's more so a vibe from her, and from what i have heard from other people who know her or have, this version of her i just don't think is her, i think it's her camera version. Kind of like Ashley on sd2 but way more in our faces about it to make us believe it
Just to explain my comment about loving the episode... I don't think the show is glorifying violence It's simply an event that occurred that we get to watch in on. You don't have to be a violence-supporter to enjoy what happened tonight. A lot of us watch reality shows for the drama and it doesn't get more dramatic than the escalation to violence. I honestly wasn't as fixated on the punches being thrown as much as I was in the way they got there. That's interesting, that's TV. I thought the whole episode was really well edited, too. The episode also made me understand why Averey and Nia weren't matched up to be Rivals II. It looks like they both left on such bad/awkward terms (with the producers, not just eachother) that producers didn't want to immediately ship them off for a Challenge.
Johnny seems like the type to curse out girls but walk away when a guy challenges him.
[QUOTE=WhySoSerious;347160]Johnny seems like the type to curse out girls but walk away when a guy challenges him.[/QUOTE] Real men yell at each other, chest bump and then go buy each other a beer. It's man code.
[QUOTE=V1man;347157]Welcome to vevmo, btw. I'm not a fan, so I don't see this the way some would on either side. I see it from a production perspective, from an insurer's risk perspective and as a former manager/agent/business partner of some past cast members. This stuff, imo, ruins what I valued from RW's early days as a cultural bow wave for social change in this county. I should quit watching, and actually did for several seasons beginning with Cancun. As long as there are challenges, and I have friends who participate, I'll probably still watch some of RW too, since there is a competitive nexus.[/QUOTE] Thanks :) I always read vevmo but finally registered at the beginning of this season. I can understand your dislike I guess. But to me shows like Real World didn't change, people themselves changed. The early reality shows back in 2000 were much more classy, it wasn't because of production, it was because of how people acted back then. 13 years later, it's more socially acceptable to have drama & physical fights all over TV. So in my personal opinion it's not the Real World's fault. That's what society likes now. We like drama and fights, so they cast people that fight. When I watched RW Las Vegas from 2002 the drama was the same. People had personal issues with one another. But they handled the situations differently. On recent seasons people still argue over petty things like they did back then, except now it's taken to another level. And personally I find it entertaining. But I guess not everyone likes it >_>
[QUOTE=blanky667;347134]The sneak peek on MTV.com for next week has me rolling. Nia swears that Jordan was pushing her and makes it sound like he was helping Averey fight her - he clearly was doing his best to break up the ordeal and to stop the nonsense. The delusional compulsive lying has not stopped, ladies! #QewQew[/QUOTE] I 100% agree. She is a joke, Jordan didn't do anything. This was such a good episode in my opinion. Averey did pretty good in the fight considering Nia is a lot bigger than her so I don't get why Nia on twitter is acting like she won. Props to Averey. And Nia throwing more food on the floor to act like the dog did it was ridiculous, she is a sick person and she wants to provoke people. I mean she constantly picks at people and eventually they are going to snap. Johnny and Averey were wrong in some of the situation but it is just like how it was with Jordan, Nia provoked it and then plays victim.
I watched the fight again and I noticed that the music playing [once Averey joined in] was a remixed version of "Nia's theme song"! This season has amazing editing.
[QUOTE=WhySoSerious;347160]Johnny seems like the type to curse out girls but walk away when a guy challenges him.[/QUOTE] He is which is part of the reason why I don't like him.
Okay I got alot to say. I agree with Anastacia about Jessica and I agree with what Jessica said about Anastacia. Now on to the fight. Okay..That dog **** fight was dumb. Nia could've cleaned it up. But it's not her dog and she should've kept her paws off Daisy but she just made the whole situation worse. You know it killed me to see Johnny just covering his head like that not being able to hit her *** back. I'm glad Avery stuck up for her man and went head to head..Everyone looked bad in this situation. And I think people need to stop overeating. Fights like this are commonplace in Reality TV. And honestly let's face facts, This show isn't what it used to be, it's not a relevant as it once was, I feel like this is the only card they have left in their deck to keep this show on the air and they're sure as hell are playing it.
Averey needs her *** beat.
[QUOTE=timster3;347070]NIA BEAT THEIR ***. I haven't read the pages yet but i'm expecting A LOT of Nia hate so i'm posting this ahead of time: "I'm prepared to see a BUNCH if Nia haters strictly because she got into a physical fight. But I find it funny that CT is the fan favorite, yet he got into stupid fights & almost killed a man. Don't be a hypocrite just saying . Without Nia this would be the Johnny & Avery love show.. and no one wants to watch that. I just don't get you fans.. you can never be impressed. You hate Real World: St Thomas because there is no drama. And then hate this season because there is drama." ^-^[/QUOTE] Bingo.
The blowdryer thing was ridiculous. I can't believe no one stopped her before she did that because she was walking around with it looking for Johnny, anyone should have stopped her. Nia is crazy and disgusting.
This is the third time in the show that Nia has gone for a weapon against someone. The alarm clock with Jordan The lamp with Jordan. And now the blow dryer. I don't possibly see how anybody could be on her side in this situation. Sure, Johnny should have left her alone, bit even after he walked away she kept on with the confrontation.
We all saw the trailer. We all saw the fight at the beginning of the season & now some people are appalled & horrified. The Real World has been all about partying, fighting & hooking up for the last 13 years or so. If you are still expecting an in-depth look at social issues you are sadly & blindly mistaken. This ain't Masterpiece Theater, kids.
[QUOTE=Camille;347130]I was always horrified by the way CT brutalized Adam. Double standard doesn't apply here. That was even more disturbing because I thought he would kill the little guy. Violence is wrong. What bothers me the most about Nia is she will attack people with blow dryers and lamps. You can't go bashing people in the head with objects. That's crossing a line. According to Avery and Johnny, Nia also tried to get some rough guys from Portland to beat up Avery, Johnny, Jordan and the camera crew. I don't know if that's true, but it wouldn't surprise me it it were considering what we've seen of Nia's character.[/QUOTE] Considering she said to Jordan that she has "hella ni****" that will kick his ***, I'm not doubting it.

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