Fresh Meat II: Episode 3

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[QUOTE=tjhallow;170258]Does BMP just give them a ton of under armour stuff for free?[/QUOTE] It's called "trade out" and they take all of your brand name stuff and give you the sponser's clothes instead. Aside from the $100,000 it's pretty much the only reason to go on challenges.
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[QUOTE=k8mnstr;170260]It's called "trade out" and they take all of your brand name stuff and give you the sponser's clothes instead. Aside from the $100,000 it's pretty much the only reason to go on challenges.[/QUOTE] And you get to keep them? That's awesome.
[QUOTE=morris614;170249]And Wes-flunkies = no social game. Its the same situation.[/QUOTE] Wes has never done a Challenge with Jenn before now. Kenny has done two with Jenn prior to FM2. For Wes to be able to get her on his side over Kenny's is ridiculous, all things considered. The only people who we knew would align with Wes from the get go were Danny and Ev. Everyone else, Wes had to sway to his side. I'd say that's playing a damn good social game.
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Wow, so now that I'm watching this "live" on the West Coast... Jenn's rant on Mandi was [I]completely[/I] ridiculous. Who the hell is she trying to be waving her arm around trying to talk all tough like the Fresh Meat have NOTHING to do with this game, and her and the other "veterans" are running ****. Give me a freaking break. I've never been much of a fan or advocate of FM in general (very few), but Jenn is so out of line with her way of thinking. What does she think this game is about? Are their partners not there to compete or think for themselves??! She's obviously threatened by them because she's been on a few of these challenges and hasn't secured any sort of working strategy or alliance in the past. That was my rant for the season. Aaaaand Mandy drinking a Pabst FTW.
[QUOTE=k8mnstr;170260]It's called "trade out" and they take all of your brand name stuff and give you the sponser's clothes instead. Aside from the $100,000 it's pretty much the only reason to go on challenges.[/QUOTE] So they take all the brand name clothes you bring for all of that? I don't know how I'd feel about that one..
[QUOTE=r3iKo;170270]So they take all the brand name clothes you bring for all of that? I don't know how I'd feel about that one..[/QUOTE] You get them back at the end of the show (or when you leave), but I'm all for swag. Since we get paid in peanuts it's pretty much the only profitable part about giving up any gainful future employment for 15 minutes of fame.
Hi, I'm a new member. I think what makes this season so good is there are two major alliances instead of JEK running the show. Also the Wes- Kenny Rivalry is great to watch. Ev was really impressive on the island and I think her partner is better than everyone thinks even though he is smaller. I don't understand why jenn acts like shes this big tough vet when she has never won one. Although I think its cool that she is this "mole" in this game for wes. Unfortunately for Wes it looks like he may of picked a bad partner again but its only three episodes in so I'll still give mandi a chance to prove herself. Kenny has the 2nd best girl but I think he has the best team overall just because they will be tough to beat in exile. Also in the Wes vs. Kenny debate I think Wes is the better competitor overall because he won the duel and has been in and won a lot more eliminations than Kenny. I mean he carried Casey to the end In FM. Kenny has been in what maybe 3 or 4 elimination rounds total including this season? Wes was in more than that in FM alone. Kenny makes it to the end mostly because of his alliance. It will be interesting to see how he does now that he will have to go in a good amount.
[QUOTE=LuckboxJoe;170275]Hi, I'm a new member. I think what makes this season so good is there are two major alliances instead of JEK running the show. Also the Wes- Kenny Rivalry is great to watch. Ev was really impressive on the island and I think her partner is better than everyone thinks even though he is smaller. I don't understand why jenn acts like shes this big tough vet when she has never won one. Although I think its cool that she is this "mole" in this game for wes. Unfortunately for Wes it looks like he may of picked a bad partner again but its only three episodes in so I'll still give mandi a chance to prove herself. Kenny has the 2nd best girl but I think he has the best team overall just because they will be tough to beat in exile. [B]Also in the Wes vs. Kenny debate I think Wes is the better competitor overall because he won the duel and has been in and won a lot more eliminations than Kenny. I mean he carried Casey to the end In FM. Kenny has been in what maybe 3 or 4 elimination rounds total including this season? Wes was in more than that in FM alone. Kenny makes it to the end mostly because of his alliance. It will be interesting to see how he does now that he will have to go in a good amount.[/B][/QUOTE] This debate has been played out so much. I still have my opinion but I think it needs to just die.
[QUOTE=k8mnstr;170272]You get them back at the end of the show (or when you leave), but I'm all for swag. Since we get paid in peanuts it's pretty much the only profitable part about giving up any gainful future employment for 15 minutes of fame.[/QUOTE] So wait, you don't get to keep all the swag?
All I have left to say is if you honestly think Kenny is not a good competitor youre in freakin denial. He came in to the game with 2 for sure alliances Sarah and Paula... gained one more team, Jillian... and makes it to the end. If you pay attention to the previews it shows Ryan sayin hes playin both sides and doesnt want either side to find out... and we all saw Jenn play him today, so theyre not a part of his alliance. All odds are against him and he still makes it! Cmon how can you not say hes good? On another note Paula... amazed the crap outta me today! Wow, she kinda proved herself. I honestly think she had Evelyn beat and she wouldve won if it wasnt for her partner.
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[QUOTE=r3iKo;170279]So wait, you don't get to keep all the swag?[/QUOTE] :dash2:
[QUOTE=r3iKo;170279]So wait, you don't get to keep all the swag?[/QUOTE] You can't keep the swag. They must run free in the forest, but sometimes it's OK to pet them.
I can't believe I was actually rooting for Ev tonight. That was an awesome Exile. Paula was amazing. But I'm still glad that's 1 more knock to kenny's group. He is just repulsive in every way. So not only does jeff have zero personality, but he can't even hold his own on a run? That dude is pathetic. Does anyone else think that Luke letting it slip about his cramps was a ploy to get him & Ev into Exile to take out Paula? Or is he really just that dumb? I LOVE Jen being Wes' secret agent. Did not see that coming.
[QUOTE=Buck05;170243]In Kenny's defense...take out Evelyn, Danny, and Jenn from FM2 and see how Wes' social game works and if his side still looks as appealing to people like Landon, CJ and Katelynn (even though Katelynn hates Kenny).[/QUOTE] there is no defense for Kenny.. he was never calling the shots in previous challenges it was mainly Johnny, Kenny just followed him. so you cannot remove anyone from Wes ' alliance to prove your point because Wes is calling all the shots no matter who is in his alliance.
[QUOTE=rebes08;170307]there is no defense for Kenny.. he was never calling the shots in previous challenges it was mainly Johnny, Kenny just followed him. so you cannot remove anyone from Wes ' alliance to prove your point because Wes is calling all the shots no matter who is in his alliance.[/QUOTE] But both Wes and Evelyn said last night on the after show that it was Evelyn calling the shots, not Wes.
[QUOTE=k8mnstr;170260]It's called "trade out" and they take all of your brand name stuff and give you the sponser's clothes instead. Aside from the $100,000 it's pretty much the only reason to go on challenges.[/QUOTE] What about the deep life long friendships that are made?
I dont get why Paula kept saying she coulve won,obviously not. Even if her partner was right there with her,Evelyn and Luke were already at the finish line. Paula should never be allowed back on a challenge unless she gets a mental **********....*** then again Tonya was pretty entertaining when she became a total wreck.
[QUOTE=rebes08;170307]there is no defense for Kenny.. he was never calling the shots in previous challenges it was mainly Johnny, Kenny just followed him. so you cannot remove anyone from Wes ' alliance to prove your point because Wes is calling all the shots no matter who is in his alliance.[/QUOTE] It was made pretty blatantly clear last night that it was in fact Evelyn calling all the shots and Wes going along with it.
[QUOTE=famous420;170319]I dont get why Paula kept saying she coulve won,obviously not. Even if her partner was right there with her,Evelyn and Luke were already at the finish line. Paula should never be allowed back on a challenge unless she gets a mental **********....*** then again Tonya was pretty entertaining when she became a total wreck.[/QUOTE] This is slightly off topic in this thread, but Paula could've won if she had not had to slow down to wait for Jeff at the puzzle and to slow down to motivate him.
[QUOTE=OtherPplsDrama;170269]Wow, so now that I'm watching this "live" on the West Coast... Jenn's rant on Mandi was [I]completely[/I] ridiculous. Who the hell is she trying to be waving her arm around trying to talk all tough like the Fresh Meat have NOTHING to do with this game, and her and the other "veterans" are running ****. Give me a freaking break. I've never been much of a fan or advocate of FM in general (very few), but Jenn is so out of line with her way of thinking. What does she think this game is about? Are their partners not there to compete or think for themselves??! She's obviously threatened by them because she's been on a few of these challenges and hasn't secured any sort of working strategy or alliance in the past. That was my rant for the season. Aaaaand Mandy drinking a Pabst FTW.[/QUOTE] Exactly. The way Jenn acted was pathetic. But I do really think the Fresh Meat need to start thinking for themselves and not just go along with their partners.
I love it how Theresa called Kenny a disgusting human being for ratting her out about trying to get with him. Granted, he didn't have to say anything, but be real... that was a good move on Kenny's part. It was only going to make Wes madder and more crazy. And Theresa is just as disgusting a human being for being the way she is in general. Trying to get with multiple guys and then being mad just because someone slowed her roll.
Thoughts on the episode last night: - I was impressed with Paula in the Exile - she stayed ahead of her partner almost the whole time didn't she? I think he was underplaying his fall - I think it took more out of him than he let on because he wasn't the same after that. I felt really bad when Paula collapsed after seeing Ev at the finish line - that was rough to watch. Kudos to Ev for being a class-act (even though Paula has screwed her over with the JEK Alliance before) and telling Paula how good she did. - I have never liked Jenn and I never will - she is a rat that cannot and should not be trusted by either side. Is it me or was she channeling Katie last night during that fight with Mandy? She looked stupid. - Did anybody seriously think Wes was running the show? I mean seriously? The guy has S*** for brains - look at his "brilliant" performance in the challenge. - I cannot believe I'm about to say this - but I am really starting to like Kenny (I mean as a person - I've always thought he was "Mr Beautiful" haha). I am rooting for him - but I honestly dont think anyone can take him or Jill out besides Landon (although I'm not that impressed with Carly, so who knows). - I honestly hope this is the last Challenge Wes ever does - I loathe him more than JEK put together and thats bad! - Last but not least, Katelynn ***??? I thought you would be one of the few members of Team Wes to kick butt in this challenge - I was a lil disappointed no offense lol
[QUOTE=RW_Chall_Fan;170327]Thoughts on the episode last night: - I was impressed with Paula in the Exile - she stayed ahead of her partner almost the whole time didn't she? I think he was underplaying his fall - I think it took more out of him than he let on because he wasn't the same after that. I felt really bad when Paula collapsed after seeing Ev at the finish line - that was rough to watch. Kudos to Ev for being a class-act (even though Paula has screwed her over with the JEK Alliance before) and telling Paula how good she did. - I have never liked Jenn and I never will - she is a rat that cannot and should not be trusted by either side. Is it me or was she channeling Katie last night during that fight with Mandy? She looked stupid. - Did anybody seriously think Wes was running the show? I mean seriously? The guy has S*** for brains - look at his "brilliant" performance in the challenge. - I cannot believe I'm about to say this - but I am really starting to like Kenny (I mean as a person - I've always thought he was "Mr Beautiful" haha). I am rooting for him - but I honestly dont think anyone can take him or Jill out besides Landon (although I'm not that impressed with Carly, so who knows). - I honestly hope this is the last Challenge Wes ever does - I loathe him more than JEK put together and thats bad! - Last but not least, Katelynn ***??? I thought you would be one of the few members of Team Wes to kick butt in this challenge - I was a lil disappointed no offense lol[/QUOTE] completely agree
Jenn really irritates me sometimes. She really doesn't bring much to the table physically, and she doesn't seem to have much of a social game. Her fight with Mandi was much more annoying than entertaining for me, and I think she should have been kicked off for shoving her. I really wasn't expecting to hear that she has been working with Wes this whole time. I love that Kenny is performing so well in this challenge. I think he is really proving himself to be a pretty decent competitor. In my opinion he is deffinetly looking like the team to beat at this point. I liked that he and Laurel picked Evelyn and Luke instead of Wes and Mandi because it was obvious that Kenny is playing this game completely strategicly instead of letting his feelings for other players get in the way. Where I feel that Wes would continue to throw Kenny in until he lost because of their history. This is the first time I have generally felt bad for Paula. She really did do extremely well in this elimination and she should be proud of herself for it. Jeff's leg was deffinetly bothering him more then he would admit but I liked how he kepy going. Wes laughing at Paula on the aftershow when she was crying made me really angry because he takes this game just as seriously if not more seriously than Paula does. He could have at least showed some compassion for her since he said that he does genuinely like Paula. Next weeks episode looks really good. Theresa is really starting to get on my nerves. Kenny did the smart thing in telling Wes what happened between them because it is only going to make Wes more mad at him. I guess I can see why Theresa would be mad at him, but I feel as if she brought it upon herself by going straight to Wes after Kenny denied her. Danny really is becoming annoying as well.
Okay...I can't believe that I'm saying this but....but...Kenny actually made a smart move by throwing in Ev and Luke. Oh and Paula I gotta say she did give it her all in the exile. And Jenn....I was surprised to find out that she had a secret alliance with Wes and her fight was just stupid. Pete is still hot. And I gotta say it's really refreshing to see these people actually PLAYING THE GAME and making moves. I can't remember the last challenge where this much strategy was invovled.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;170349]And I gotta say it's really refreshing to see these people actually PLAYING THE GAME and making moves. I can't remember the last challenge where this much strategy was invovled.[/QUOTE] I completely agree. This challenge is shaping up to be my favorite since Gauntlet 3.
Jenn is in the best position right now. Neither side is going to throw/vote her into exile.
I feel like everything I want to say has been said...Kenny making smart decisions, Jenn being out of line and probably should have been sent home, Paula definitely showing her stuff on Exile, Luke being an idiot for insisting on opening his mouth, Evelyn kicking *** for carrying the heavier bag and still keeping up... Seriously, this has been the best challenge in years.
[QUOTE=mr.unamazing;170330] This episode at least to me was okay. I personal hope next week that Brandon does break away from his partner as then he will show courage. As well as show me that he deserves to be invited back.[/QUOTE] How does not voting with your partner (which is a stupid thing to do) show that he deserves to be invited back?
I wonder what would have happened if Jonna hadn't lost her passport and Ev had never been called to be on this show? She was definitely the mastermind behind the Wes alliance. I don't think Wes would have been smart enough to pull off some of the moves she has orchestrated so far. Would not be as interesting without her b@llzy moves! I also think Paula could have beaten Ev and Luke if Jeff hadn't gotten injured. She's a tough chick. I love that Ev gives her credit for that! Isn't it funny that everyone who goes into an exile thinks no one could possibly beat them at it? hahahaha Kenny and Laurel's exile looked WAY harder than Ev and Luke's or Pete and Jill's though.

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