The Challenge: What Ifs

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My big what if is from Battle of the Exes.  What if CT and Diem chose Ty and Emily to go into that final elimination against Camilla and Johnny?  I think that would've turned the whole final around.  I can't see Johnny and Camilla beating Ty and Emily in an elimination round.  So the final would probably be Mark/Robin, Ty/Emily, and CT/Diem.  Ty and Robin would've held their partners back and Ct and Diem would've most likely won.

I honestly think Mark/Robin could won that season.

And for last elimination- Bananas> Ty, Emily>Camila,  so it's toss up.

I don't know, I think Mark by himself would've killed it, but Robin was not a great partner.  I think she would've been his Ty in the final.

Robin is like Paula. I wouldn't mind her on my team in final.

Robin is like Paula. I wouldn't mind her on my team in final.

robin from Sexes 2 sure

Robin from the Island on. Not so much 

robin is so underrated. even on her latest appearance exes, she was kicking cara maria and paulas ***** in the missions

robin is so underrated. even on her latest appearance exes, she was kicking cara maria and paulas ***** in the missions

Cara was a trainwreck that season

Paula's never been great at daily missions without an elite partner

The teams that did the best had the best guys.  Put anyone with Mark and they're going to do well. 

Robin was the worst swimmer--got very lucky Tyrie fell on Jasmine

Robin definitely wasn't the same after G2 IMO

The great Bananas debate of "What Ifs"

What if Evelyn takes Johnny's key?

He is then cast as a "Challenger" on the Ruins--how does that change that season?

What if Adam K doesn't throw the elimination round against Tyler & Johnny?  Does CT win that season?  Does Johnny remain winless?

What if Mark doesn't throw his elimination round to Bananas?  Does he still win Exes?

Would Bananas only have one win (Free Agents) if he didn't make these crazy deals?

The great Bananas debate of "What Ifs"What if Evelyn takes Johnny's key?He is then cast as a "Challenger" on the Ruins--how does that change that season?What if Adam K doesn't throw the elimination round against Tyler & Johnny?  Does CT win that season?  Does Johnny remain winless?What if Mark doesn't throw his elimination round to Bananas?  Does he still win Exes?Would Bananas only have one win (Free Agents) if he didn't make these crazy deals?

I know you don't like Bananas but by these standards i can make a list and do the last 15 challenges of male champions of what ifs.

Do you have proof that Mark threw it? I also don't think CT would have won Rivals if he had so much trouble on the exes final.

Mark definitely did not throw that elimination round, almost got his wrist snapped off in that third round! He may be bigger than Bananas but it is a game about position and Bananas had it that first and third round.

Adam k threw the rivals elimination? What a shit bag.

Adam k threw the rivals elimination? What a shit bag.

Alot of rumors of it and i  personally wouln't be suprised if he did.But you also saw Reilly make the same "mistake" on Free Agents. And there is also no evidence of him throwing it( or not that i know of?)

derp1987 wrote:

Adam k threw the rivals elimination? What a shit bag.

Alot of rumors of it and i  personally wouln't be suprised if he did.But you also saw Reilly make the same "mistake" on Free Agents. And there is also no evidence of him throwing it( or not that i know of?)

how about the fact CT literally had to drag Adam up that hill. It's not just the balls, it's the horrible acting when he messed up imo. "Oh no i can't believe I messed up" 

kvm1977 wrote:

The great Bananas debate of "What Ifs"What if Evelyn takes Johnny's key?He is then cast as a "Challenger" on the Ruins--how does that change that season?What if Adam K doesn't throw the elimination round against Tyler & Johnny?  Does CT win that season?  Does Johnny remain winless?What if Mark doesn't throw his elimination round to Bananas?  Does he still win Exes?Would Bananas only have one win (Free Agents) if he didn't make these crazy deals?

I know you don't like Bananas but by these standards i can make a list and do the last 15 challenges of male champions of what ifs.Do you have proof that Mark threw it? I also don't think CT would have won Rivals if he had so much trouble on the exes final.

Wouldn't be the first time Mark threw something to get a cut of money

Yes, you can come up with a lot of these scenarios but few people have ones so obvious.  Evelyn taking Johnny's key was a very real possibility.  And, if she did, that does change the Ruins--not sure if it would have been for the better or not.  Just like Adam & Mark throwing eliminations.  Not saying he wouldn't have won anyway--very easily could have.

I also don't hate Bananas.  I'm one of the few people that don't compllain about him being on every season.  I'm not a fan of him but I don't hate him.  I think he's an idiot and a hypocrite but he's a great competitor and has done a great job making allies.

kvm1977 wrote:

The great Bananas debate of "What Ifs"What if Evelyn takes Johnny's key?He is then cast as a "Challenger" on the Ruins--how does that change that season?What if Adam K doesn't throw the elimination round against Tyler & Johnny?  Does CT win that season?  Does Johnny remain winless?What if Mark doesn't throw his elimination round to Bananas?  Does he still win Exes?Would Bananas only have one win (Free Agents) if he didn't make these crazy deals?

I know you don't like Bananas but by these standards i can make a list and do the last 15 challenges of male champions of what ifs.Do you have proof that Mark threw it? I also don't think CT would have won Rivals if he had so much trouble on the exes final.

Wouldn't be the first time Mark threw something to get a cut of money

Yes, you can come up with a lot of these scenarios but few people have ones so obvious.  Evelyn taking Johnny's key was a very real possibility.  And, if she did, that does change the Ruins--not sure if it would have been for the better or not.  Just like Adam & Mark throwing eliminations.  Not saying he wouldn't have won anyway--very easily could have.

I also don't hate Bananas.  I'm one of the few people that don't compllain about him being on every season.  I'm not a fan of him but I don't hate him.  I think he's an idiot and a hypocrite but he's a great competitor and has done a great job making allies.

Kripsters1 wrote:

derp1987 wrote:Adam k threw the rivals elimination? What a shit bag.

Alot of rumors of it and i  personally wouln't be suprised if he did.But you also saw Reilly make the same "mistake" on Free Agents. And there is also no evidence of him throwing it( or not that i know of?)

how about the fact CT literally had to drag Adam up that hill. It's not just the balls, it's the horrible acting when he messed up imo. "Oh no i can't believe I messed up" 

I bet you they probably didn't pay his *** either. #*******

adam k didn't throw the elimination. not sure about mark, but CT said numerous times that he doesn't believe adam threw it and i think CT would know more than you guys lol

adam k didn't throw the elimination. not sure about mark, but CT said numerous times that he doesn't believe adam threw it and i think CT would know more than you guys lol

Clearly not when he said that he BELIEVES that he didn't throw it so he's not that sure either.

I HIGHLY doubt Johnny paid off Adam for that one. Mark I find slightly more believable but not Adam. Had Adam won that elimination he probably had a solid shot at 1st place. Let's think about it money wise...Johnny won 50K for Rivals. After tax that's probaby about ~35K. Now this is Johnny, who everyone makes fun of on this show for "living off the show" and having no other job and living in mommy's basement and the show being his only income. If they went 50/50 Johnny takes home 17K. For a guy who only makes money off that shows that's not much to live on, even if you're still at home. And why would Adam exchange 17K for a legitimate shot at 50K, or even 25K since whoever won that elimination was guaranteed at least second? And hell, Johnny didn't know he'd win the final...so he'd maybe be splitting a post tax 25K, which is even less. 

What if Evan and Kenny never got banned and the Fresh Meat team on BOTS was Evan, Kenny, Cara Maria & Laurel in stead of Camila

What if Evan and Kenny never got banned and the Fresh Meat team on BOTS was Evan, Kenny, Cara Maria & Laurel in stead of Camila

I feel like all four of them would have gotten along pretty well (hard to tell with Evan since he only did one show with those girls but Kenny and Laurel were always pretty good) until it came to nominating themselves for elimination but they would have been a pretty stacked team and definitely have gotten to the finals. Could have potentially been Laurel and Cara's first win. I think all of the house politics would have shifted and with that specific team, the older seasons could have banded together instead of handing over the power to the new kids 

 Laurel wouldn't have made much of a difference by herself . Camila was already probably the best girl there so swapping her out for another strongest girl doesn't change anything.  The most significant change would be swapping big easy out for....ANYBODY

challenger21 wrote:

adam k didn't throw the elimination. not sure about mark, but CT said numerous times that he doesn't believe adam threw it and i think CT would know more than you guys lol

Clearly not when he said that he BELIEVES that he didn't throw it so he's not that sure either.

i don't know if believe was his exact word. it's been a long time. he might have said something different, but if CT feels Adam didn't throw it, he's probably right. why would he have said it so many times and continued to be cool with adam if he wasn't sure? like relax

I'm still flabbergasted that they let Laurel go and not Big Easy. That's seriously ridiculous.

I'm still flabbergasted that they let Laurel go and not Big Easy. That's seriously ridiculous.

She didn't need to be on that season anyways. No big loss.

Debut Album wrote:

challenger21 wrote:adam k didn't throw the elimination. not sure about mark, but CT said numerous times that he doesn't believe adam threw it and i think CT would know more than you guys lol

Clearly not when he said that he BELIEVES that he didn't throw it so he's not that sure either.

i don't know if believe was his exact word. it's been a long time. he might have said something different, but if CT feels Adam didn't throw it, he's probably right. why would he have said it so many times and continued to be cool with adam if he wasn't sure? like relax

Probably because he's just whatever about it and decided to be fine with adam despite of it all.

alaskak94 wrote:

I'm still flabbergasted that they let Laurel go and not Big Easy. That's seriously ridiculous.

She didn't need to be on that season anyways. No big loss.

None of them needed to be on that season, they should have just proceeded with 7 teams. 

Debut Album wrote:

alaskak94 wrote:I'm still flabbergasted that they let Laurel go and not Big Easy. That's seriously ridiculous.

She didn't need to be on that season anyways. No big loss.

None of them needed to be on that season, they should have just proceeded with 7 teams. 

Agreed.

What I do wonder is, how things would have turned out for Sarah and Jordan had CT and Diem (RIP) had stayed in the game. Had Diem been healthy enough to compete at her full potential. If feel as though could have been the glue to hold Wes and Johnny together to have all three teams go to the final. If not, where would CT align with or who would Diem align with? Definetely Sarah and Jordan would not have one. Would Sarah be able to put all three teams up for elimination? I'd say, this season and the twist best served Sarah's gameplay.

What if Team Sydney wouldn't have gotten DQ'd?

Tbh I only see Kellyanne and Dunbar making the final not Ashli and Issac. 

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