[QUOTE=Entropy;215897]Yeah he put a video on Youtube around the time the Ruins was on air and he called out JEK.[/QUOTE]
It was like Emilee calling out Shavoun.
Kenny, Derrick, and Mark talk Worst Challenge Moments on Derricks podcast.
[url=http://talentnetworkinc.blogspot.com/2010/10/mtv-cutthroat-derrick-kosinski-podcast_23.html]Talent Network News: MTV Cutthroat | Derrick Kosinski Podcast | W/Kenny Santucci and Mark Long | Pt.2 of 3 | Worst MTV Challenge Moments[/url]
If BMP even decides to make another Challenge, and it's a Duel 3 like everyone is speculating, then these people will almost definitely be on:
Kenny (He's taken a whole one Challenge break, and casting seems to love him).
Mark (Has expressed interest in doing another Duel)
Derrick (Has expressed interest in doing more Challenges)
Wes (Former winner, Kenny vs Wes dynamic .2)
CT (Returned on Cutthroat, obviously in BMP's good graces again)
Evan (Gone a few Challenges without returning, and obviously not retiring, popular)
Darrell (said he'd only come back for a Duel)
Abram (Now that he's with Cara Maria, he'll probably go on Challenges with her)
Laurel (Can't see why they wouldn't ask her back)
Cara Maria (Popular character, expressed interest in more Challenges)
Ashlee (expressed much interest in doing Challenges)
Jonna (initially a cast-member on FM2, obviously up for Challenges)
People I think could possibly be asked back:
Landon (Almost won Duel 2, popular, but might not come back)
Brandon (I can just see him being asked back)
Ty (for drama)
Knight (big character in New Orleans, but said he probably wouldn't go)
Alton (I can see him coming out of retirement, but probably won't)
KellyAnne (for Wes dynamic)
Ayiiia (big character on Cancun, not so much on Cutthroat so far)
Emily (likable, can see her getting asked)
Kimberly (Big character on Duel 2, hasn't been on the latest Challenges)
Coral (I can see BMP asking her, but most likely won't come back)
Paula (if she doesn't win Cutthroat)
Tonya (After the Ruins fight)
Veronica (After the Ruins fight)
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;215891]Yes. Scott actually really wants to participate in a challenge.[/QUOTE]
Then why hasn't he? If he really wanted to, then he would have been on them by now.
[QUOTE=molds13;216258]Because he hasn't been invited...[/QUOTE]
Why would they invite people like Rayn Kehoe and Tyler Duckworth and not invite Scott? Unless they are mad at him for some reason like violating his contract, I could not imagine him not being invited.
[QUOTE=SeanDaniel;216260]Why would they invite people like Rayn Kehoe and Tyler Duckworth and not invite Scott? Unless they are mad at him for some reason like violating his contract, I could not imagine him not being invited.[/QUOTE]
Probably because they don't find him to be interesting.
[QUOTE=Klounsnax2.0;216285]Well, didnt you just answer your own question?[/QUOTE]
nope. The number of people who show up on the Challenges that I find uninteresting is legion.
They may be having a challenge awards bash. I saw a convo between Sarah and Eric talking abotu an awards bash in november. Carley said something about seeing him in November and I believe Brandon said something about seeing somebody in the challenge for a few weeks. Any truth to this? Has it been discussed?
[QUOTE=andrewsz1991;216372]They may be having a challenge awards bash. I saw a convo between Sarah and Eric talking abotu an awards bash in november. Carley said something about seeing him in November and I believe Brandon said something about seeing somebody in the challenge for a few weeks. Any truth to this? Has it been discussed?[/QUOTE]
Kind of, it's a reality bash similar to the one that was in Las Vegas a little while ago.
Is it like a Challenge bash or Award show? Is it something like a reunion. I haven't heard anything about it... Are older castmembers going to be there, or just the usuals?
[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;216421]Is it like a Challenge bash or Award show? Is it something like a reunion. I haven't heard anything about it... Are older castmembers going to be there, or just the usuals?[/QUOTE]
It is mostly a challenge bash (although other reality stars will be there as well) with a few awards thrown in.
I believe Mark actually said that Puck will be there, but from what I have seen there are mostly newer cast members going.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdVnykSIYQQ]YouTube - Nakid Reality Presents A Nakid Reality Exclusive: The Reality Bash and a Few Awards Too Part2[/url]
[QUOTE=molds13;216262]Probably because they don't find him to be interesting.[/QUOTE]
....And yet they keep casting Paula, Ryan and most of the Stale Meat. Who is as boring as they come.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;216450]....And yet they keep casting Paula, Ryan and most of the Stale Meat. Who is as boring as they come.[/QUOTE]
Maybe in your opinion, but in the minds of a lot of other people Paula is entertaining.
[QUOTE=molds13;216451]Maybe in your opinion, but in the minds of a lot of other people Paula is entertaining.[/QUOTE]
I like Paula--she is funny and doesn't seem to carry grudges. She is starting to look a little old though.
[B]Top 10 Earners List as of Fresh Meat 2[/B]
[B]1.[/B] Darrell (4 challenges)
Gauntlet 1 [$25,555.55], Inferno 1 [$32,500], Inferno 2 [$57,500], Fresh Meat [$125,000]
Total: $240,555.55
[B]2.[/B] Kenny (6 challenges)
Fresh Meat [$15,000], Inferno 3 [$40,000], The Island [$75,000], The Ruins [$51,293], Fresh Meat 2 [$30,000]
Total: $211,293
[B]3.[/B] Landon (4 challenges)
Gauntlet 2 [$26,666.66], Inferno 2 [$57,500], Fresh Meat 2 [$100,000]
Total: $184,166.66
[B]4.[/B] Jodi (3 challenges)
Gauntlet 2 [$26,666.66], Duel 1 [$150,000]
Total: $176,666.66
[B]5.[/B] Derrick (7 challenges)
Inferno 2 [$10,000], Inferno 3 [$40,000], Island [$75,000], The Ruins [$51,293]
Total: $176,293
[B]6.[/B] Wes (2 challenges)
Fresh Meat [$10,000], Duel 1 [$150,000]
Total: $160,000
[B]7.[/B] Evan (4 challenges)
Duel 2 [$100,000], The Ruins [$51,293]
Total: $151,293
[B]8.[/B] Rachel Robinson (6 challenges)
Gauntlet 1 [$25,555.55], Inferno 2 [$10,000], Duel 2 [$100,000]
Total: $135,555.55
[B]9.[/B] Miz (6 challenges)
BOTSeasons [$50,000*], Inferno 1 [$10,000], Gauntlet 1 [$12,000], Inferno 2 [$57,500]
* due to prize-sharing deals, he may not have kept the full amount
$131,500?
[B]10.[/B] Johnny (5 challenges)
The Island [$75,000], The Ruins [$53,293]
Total: $128,293
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Aviv (1 challenge)
Fresh Meat [$125,000]
Total: $125,000
Evelyn (4 challenges)
Inferno 3 [$40,000], Island [$75,000]
Total: $115,000
Carley (1 challenge)
Fresh Meat 2 [$100,000]
Total: $100,000
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I just thought I'd update this. Not much has changed, other than Landon jumping up from nowhere to claim a top 3 spot on the all-time earner's list. That pushes Aviv out of the top 10. Carley is on the radar, and nipping at Evelyn's heels, in spite of only having done one challenge. Kenny is poised to be the first to crack the quarter-million dollar mark.
[QUOTE=Moonpaw;217544]He's put deals and alliances ahead of friendships, but he never screwed over his team or purposely under-performed the way Susie did. If I was in her position I would have been wary of her too...in fact, I was a little surprised that he went along with the plan to throw in Evelyn, who he won with, over Susie, the girl who was half the alliance that cost him I3.[/QUOTE]
I don't know, I have to strongly disagree with that. Taking into account the 'bad girls' strategy to send in Susie every time as a means of ensuring that they were essentially keeping Cara Z on the good guys team is what occurred. In that scenario Susie fought her way to 3 life savers and performed more than adequately on all the missions. Here's a mission by mission breakdown with her performance (and Cara's when relevant).
Mission 1 'Un-braided': Team challenge, hard to judge, but she didn't DQ unlike Davis and Colie.
Mission 2 'Ladder Race': Lost her heat to Tonya, but was one of a handful of girls that were able to even complete it. (Cara, Jenn, Aneesa, Colie all DQ'd)
Mission 3 'Battering Ram': Team challenge, the good guys won.
Mission 4 'Wrap and Roll': Only her and Alton completed the challenge out of everyone. Every other contestant on both sides failed to complete.
Mission 5 'Rope Burn': Team challenge, the good guys won.
Mission 6 'Reversible Climbing Wall': Posted second best time behind Paula and Johnny on their team. Cara came third (seconds behind Susie) Colie DQ'd once and posted the fourth best time.
Mission 7 'Grape Smash': The mission Timmy, Alton, and Ace essentially threw. Susie participated, they were blown out but hardly her fault.
Mission 8 'Steady as you Go': Susie wins the life shield, posting the best time out of either team. Cara who was supposedly throwing challenges posted a very respectable 7 minutes, which was better than everyone but Susie and Tonya's times.
Mission 9 'Leaps and Bounds': Team challenge, good guys lost a close one. Susie, Davis, and Timmy all contributed to the loss. Susie and Davis struggled with the initial trampoline but eventually found their form. Timmy knocked half his team off the last platform essentially ruining their chances.
Mission 10 'Dog Day Afternoon': Cara helps Ace win the life shield, Timmy injures himself on his heat so they DQ, Susie's his partner so her performance is hard to judge.
Mission 11 'Hand Car': Team challenge, good guys win.
Mission 12 'Giraffic Park': Cara blatantly throws her heat for Susie. Susie posts a decent time. Paula wins the life shield with Johnny's help. All three good guy girls post far better times than most of the competitors. Good guys win the mission.
Mission 13 'Captain's Chair': Team trivia challenge. Good guys lose, Susie gets 1/2 questions correct. Good guys got a total of 4 questions correctly of of 10 attempts between 5 cast members, making her score one of the better ones for her team. Cara was strapped to the electric chair, unable to answer questions.
Mission 14 'Hook Me': Bad ***** win on the strength of Evelyn demolishing Alton on their heat. Kenny wins the life shield pulling in Susie, although she beat Aneesa by quite a bit who was being dragged by Ace. Ace posted the third best time for the guys (Johnny > Davis > Ace > Kenny, Derrick/Abram >>> Alton) meaning she posted better times than at least all the bad girls with the exception of Evelyn.
Mission 15 'Nothing But Net': Susie wins the life saver. All girls but her and Evelyn fail to complete. Paula fails to complete, but coaches Susie to a winning strategy during her heat.
There's a lot of confessionals to the effect of "I'm starting to wonder if Cara has forgotten to slow down or something cause she's gonna make it hard for me to win the life shield." or "when I see Cara fall down, I can't help but smile cause I know she's trying to make it easy for me" (these quotes aren't per verbatim) But statistically Susie was the best girl on her team, and performed well on team challenges and guy days as well.
In this scenario I think Johnny just took losing to heart way too much as from the onset there was no way the good guys could compete with the bad guys in that type of final (marathon with heavy lifting involved) when the bad girls as collective were just superior (Ev > Susie, Tonya > Paula, Janelle > Cara Z) To be honest I feel as though Johnny lost sight of that and had a completely irrational grudge against Susie who only went against her teams wishes once by sending in Paula over Cara (the team decided on Rachel for her first life saver, and Susie agreed to send in Colie when the team approached her to on her second). That's why to me his grudge was really unfounded. I mean both Kenny and Derrick were also present on the Inferno 3 and Ruins and they trusted her well enough (I think Kenny was actually her biggest supporter).
ClubSandwich, as always I love your posts because you pay attention to all the details but I am going to say that, despite the fact that this has nothing to do with your current argument that Susie's alliance with Cara did or did not warrant Bananas' animosity , Paula was quite possibly the strongest girl on the GG team even over Susie. IMO, it was debatable even though looking at it superficially, Susie did technically collect the most life shields.
I think Susie was extremely lucky that she was able to perform later in many of the missions, as this allowed her to absorb the mistakes of those who previously went before. Paula got to spectate in a lot of the missions but not nearly as many as Susie.
While Susie did win the most life shields on the GG, I also believe her flaws and mess ups were more dramatic than Paula's. According to Evelyn's blog, there were a lot of bad jumps that were edited out of the Leaps and Bounds challenge. Evelyn actually credited both Susie and Davis for that Bad *** win because they just couldn't get it together the whole time. Additionally, though presently Kenny is considered an A list competitor, during the Inferno 3 he was by far considered the weakest guy on the Bad ***** yet he still was able to pull in Susie with more ease than Abe was able to pull in Paula. Cara had to fight off Derrick and Paula had to fight off Abe, both of whom were perceived as much stronger than Kenny, yet they still ended up lasting longer. I don't believe order was an issue here as Kenny also had to deal with the disadvantages of going first, just like Susie did.
Initially the Bad *** girls were more intimidated by Paula than Susie which is why they chose Susie for the first couple if Infernos. Aneesa specifically stated that she did not want to see Paula in an elimination round again because she recalled Paula's tenacity displayed in Pole Wrestle and did not want to go through something like that again. Janelle talked about how Paula used to show scary amounts of endurance and strength back in the Key West house and Ev stated that Susie and Paula were about equal athletic wise but Susie lacked the intensity that Paula had. It was unanimously agreed implied that the Bad *** girls were much more comfortable going up against Susie than Paula. However, I do believe that reasons for sending in Susie later on in the game changed as they expected Susie or Paula to win life shields and knew that Susie would keep around Cara, their weakest link.
I don't know who did better in Ladder Race because times were not posted on the show but I do know that Evelyn did the best overall for the girls. Followed by Evelyn was Rachel(that's why they considered her a strong female at the time, because she smoked the rest of the females except Ev in an extremely athletically driven competition). Then after Rachel was Janelle, whom Paula lost against, not sure by how much, but Tonya's time was lower than Janelle's for sure and Susie lost against Tonya.
Overall, Susie was #1 on three challenges while Paula was #1 on two challenges(reversible climbing wall even though that was not a "girl" day) but I think Susie had more overall advantages and bigger mistakes overall.
I know you were not even trying to point out who the strongest female was but I just threw that in there as a tribute to Paula because everyone hates her now lol.
Anyways, why is Brad even freaking out about a potential cross alliance in this game anyways? I wouldn't even blame Camila even if she did try to throw challenges. It isn't as if he hasn't had a cross alliance in the past before. He was BLATANTLY aligned with Tori in Gauntlet 3 and rumor has it that he had a cross alliance with Evan in the Ruins. Let's also not forget the whole Gauntlet 2 ordeal where it was said that he approached Cara, Susie and Jill for a cross alliance as well. Of course he tried to smash that rumor to maintain his image and all but rumors don't just start out of nowhere. I could go into more but I think that's enough to grill him on at the top of my head. Dude needs to chill, Camila is doing just fine.
Brad also had the cross team alliance on the Inferno 2 with Abram and Darrell that led to the famous ball brawl shouting fest between Abe and Darrell.
I don't blame him too much cause on challenges where he tries to play it fair (BotSexes 2, the Duel and Duel 2) He always gets the short end of the stick and people conspire against him. But his grudge with Johnny on this season of Cut Throat just has me scratching my head.
Brad didn't play fair in the Duel 2, he agreed with Evan to vote against Landon in the last elimination round.
Everybody said that Evan screwed over landon but anybody said anything about Mark and Brad who voted against Landon too.
Evan didn't put a gun in their heads
In the last podcast Kenny said that Susie and Cara slowed down the good guys in the final mission of the Inferno 3, i remember that Evelyn once said exactly the same thing, the best female of the good guys in the Inferno 3 was Paula, in fact i remember one mission that Paula explained Susie how to climb a net and help Susie to won a lifeshield and then Susie who was nominated send Paula to the Inferno against Aneesa
[QUOTE=alucard666;217592]Brad didn't play fair in the Duel 2, he agreed with Evan to vote against Landon in the last elimination round.
Everybody said that Evan screwed over landon but anybody said anything about Mark and Brad who voted against Landon too.
Evan didn't put a gun in their heads[/QUOTE]
That's because it's Mark friggen Long and the amazing Brad that everybody pitys because he hasen't won yet. Evan on the other hand is the typical "bad guy" who associated himself with Kenny and Johnny so they're all looked at as "evil". Though it's usually more Kenny/Johnny than Evan.
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