[QUOTE=pmfg10;276530]Emily who?
Also talking about the challenge wins, you can't really compare.[/QUOTE]
Derrick has won a lot but only once he joined JEK, how many did he win before that? And I guess that's a good strategy but it doesnt really show athleticism and come on do you really think Derrick could last in the Rivals final? I bet half the rw/road rules people couldn't, this 1 was something else, nothing compared to cutthroat, which had 2 people quit, Derrick was huffing and puffing after only 20 minutes of wrestling around with Wes.
Yes, I agree with you. He didn't do much on the Island or on the Ruins to deserve the win.
I also don't get the purpose of this twitter feud between the two of them.
[QUOTE=Blue123;276533]Derrick has won a lot but only once he joined JEK, how many did he win before that? And I guess that's a good strategy but it doesnt really show athleticism and come on do you really think Derrick could last in the Rivals final? I bet half the rw/road rules people couldn't, this 1 was something else, nothing compared to cutthroat, which had 2 people quit, Derrick was huffing and puffing after only 20 minutes of wrestling around with Wes.[/QUOTE]
You said it's obvious when people have a clear bias for Derrick but you're clearly biased for Wes. And Wes was huffing and puffing have only 20 minutes of wrestling around with Derrick.
[QUOTE=Blue123;276514]Cara didnt really take a side, she knows all about people taking tweets too seriously, Wes and her seem to bicker a lot. [B]And I cant stand that Emily chick, she always tries to get involved in everything, she has never even met Wes[/B] and it's obvious that her and Derrick just want to be invited back. Derrick is just glad that he has an excuse to call Wes everything he's ever wanted to call him and say the things he's always wished he had a reason to say to him. Wes does a good job of making himself look bad and it's pretty amazing how Derrick manages to make Wes took better by over reacting so much. Everyone defending Derrick looks ridiculous, I am not even sure what Derrick is trying to prove? That he didnt loose? He clearly lost, so whats the fuss about, "opened up a can of worms" wtf is he talking about? Maybe Wes should have chosen better words but all he did was state a fact, its not like he said Derrick sucks and that he's the worst competitor ever, Derrick needs to get over it, he's acting as if he insulted his mother.[/QUOTE]
A lot of people here haven't met Wes but have no problem trashing him. What's the difference?
[QUOTE=Blue123;276514]And I cant stand that Emily chick, she always tries to get involved in everything, she has never even met Wes and it's obvious that her and Derrick just want to be invited back.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure you don't mean Emilee from Cancun? DC Emily doesn't seem like a gossiper.
It's Emily from DC, and she didn't really say anything too harsh and neither did Wes. Emily just said she had never seen Wes and her eyes thanked her for it, team Derrick or something along those lines. Wes told her to give him a chance and not judge him based on reputation. I really wouldn't consider that arguing in any capacity.
[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;276512]Laurel took multiple shots at Wes, Wes maybe responded once and it had nothing to do with Derrick. If you really think his last comment to Emily was "trash talk" then you're clearly biased. Cara Maria did not take sides and Wes's comment about her had nothing to do with Derrick, nor was it in response to anything to do with Derrick.
Bottom line is, Derrick is not letting it die while Wes is clearly over it.[/QUOTE]
Seriously you told me I'm biased, are you serious? You have justified every action that the best challenge champion of all times (Wes) has made and you call me biased, give me a break.
You want to portray Wes like the perfect human being that never make mistakes but face it, nobody is perfect and even Wes the multimillion dollar entrepreneur makes mistakes.
In my opinion Derrick is overreacting because Wes said that he won a challenge with a great cast and Derrick took the wrong way.
[QUOTE=faceless;276565]You said it's obvious when people have a clear bias for Derrick but you're clearly biased for Wes. And Wes was huffing and puffing have only 20 minutes of wrestling around with Derrick.[/QUOTE]
Derrick clearly over reacted, and Wes won the elimination and that all there is to it. I am not going to defend someone when they're wrong, I dont agree with everything Wes does but in this case Derrick looks stupid.
[QUOTE=JL81790;276568]Are you sure you don't mean Emilee from Cancun? DC Emily doesn't seem like a gossiper.[/QUOTE]
Its the DC one, I dont know if Id call her gossiper but she gets involved in every twitter fight.
[QUOTE=Blue123;276590]Its the DC one, I dont know if Id call her gossiper but she gets involved in every twitter fight.[/QUOTE]
Lol no she doesn't. She may tweet once about it but so does other fans and all of us here.
[QUOTE=Blue123;276580]Derrick clearly over reacted, and Wes won the elimination and that all there is to it. I am not going to defend someone when they're wrong, I dont agree with everything Wes does but in this case Derrick looks stupid.[/QUOTE]
You said Derrick was huffing and puffing after 20 minutes and I just pointed out that so was Wes.
[QUOTE=faceless;276616]You said Derrick was huffing and puffing after 20 minutes and I just pointed out that so was Wes.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but Derrick was way more tired than Wes was, or at least it looked that way on tv. Which is why I said Derrick might not have done well on the rivals final which he keeps bringing up and saying Wes did so bad on it, so he has no room to talk. Not only that but he keeps tweeting about kicking Wes' *** in a fight and in a challenge, like ya right, more like the other way round, they already went in against each other and he lost, he thinks he's CT or something. You cant go around saying you're going to horribly beat up some one that you already lost to. I'd love to see a rematch though, if Derrick loses that 1 too then he'll look extremely stupid.
[QUOTE=jesses_girl;276603]Lol no she doesn't. She may tweet once about it but so does other fans and all of us here.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but here it's optional if the person wants to see what we say they can come and see it, over there they tag them in the tweet, I am not going to look people up and bash them. And to me it seems like she loves to be involved, she also got involved in the Cara/Emilee fight over Cara's RW poll. Which was once again someone taking a tweet too seriously.
[QUOTE=Blue123;276653]Yeah but here it's optional if the person wants to see what we say, over there they tag them in the tweet, I am not going to look people up and bash them. And to me it seems like she loves to be involved, she also got involved in the Cara/Emilee fight over Cara's RW poll. Which was once again someone taking a tweet too seriously.[/QUOTE]
She follows everyone, so she doesn't have to "look people up", and both her and Emilee tweeted about CM RW poll, only Emilee made it into a fight. But Emily just tweeted CM once.
You just seem to "bash" people who have anything negative to say about Wes. I love him too but if you have an opinion about him then so can everyone else.
[QUOTE=Blue123;276643]Yeah but Derrick was way more tired than Wes was, or at least it looked that way on tv. Which is why I said Derrick might not have done well on the rivals final which he keeps bringing up and saying Wes did so bad on it, so he has no room to talk. [/QUOTE]
Derrick's done four other finals and never gassed out on any of them. He also said that he was in the best shape of his life on Cutthroat and Kenny agreed that he at least LOOKED like he was.
[QUOTE=jesses_girl;276661]She follows everyone, so she doesn't have to "look people up", and both her and Emilee tweeted about CM RW poll, only Emilee made it into a fight. But Emily just tweeted CM once.
You just seem to "bash" people who have anything negative to say about Wes. I love him too but if you have an opinion about him then so can everyone else.[/QUOTE]
I just said she likes to get involved, and I meant the fans like to bash people on twitter and wherever else, people can have their opinions but say them where its appropriate like on a fan site not go and harass someone over a tv show. And I am not bashing people who say bad stuff about Wes, Wes acts like a ****** sometimes, they all do. I am just saying in this situation I think Derrick over reacted and is sounding really ridiculous.
[QUOTE=JL81790;276662]Derrick's done four other finals and never gassed out on any of them. He also said that he was in the best shape of his life on Cutthroat and Kenny agreed that he at least LOOKED like he was.[/QUOTE]
Come on man, Rivals final was way harder than any of the other finals. Not to mention JEK and Derrick have been on like 100 challenges, Wes took a long break. And if he is in the best shape of his life then they should have a rematch then if Derrick wins then he can say all the crap he's saying now. Till then he needs to save the "I can kick his *** crap".
I'm sorry but a fight isn't pole wrestling and IMO, Derrick would probably get the best of Wes in a fight or in a real wrestling match. That's just my opinion.
[QUOTE=JL81790;276662]Derrick's done four other finals and never gassed out on any of them. He also said that he was in the best shape of his life on Cutthroat and Kenny agreed that he at least LOOKED like he was.[/QUOTE]
Wes had done 2 other finals and was never gassed. Fresh Meat 1 and Duel 1 final. This was clearly the hardest final and even with him gassing they had like a 45 minute lead or something like that going into day 2. I think he said he was sick going into the final, maybe they only showed Jenn and tyler. If you want to point out FM2, I'm pretty sure he owed Evelyn and thought she had the best chance to win and threw the exile. The finals Derrick has done must have been easier. Think about the people he has done them with. For example, Sarah did the Ruins and couldn't complete Cutthroat. Abram did Inferno 2 & 3 and couldn't complete Cutthroat. There were a lot of people who completed those earlier finals that are in no way in better shape than Wes.
Derrick might be able to take Wes in something physical strength related now if he's been regularly working out and is in the best shape of his life. Wes is NOT as strong as people think he is and a big reason why he beat Derrick was because Derrick gassed. I think Derrick would take him in any sort of hand-to-hand physical game for sure. On Cutthroat he looked like he was giving Tyler a very tough time in their Gulag in the first round but on his podcast, Derrick said that they didn't allow him to push the pole from side to side to throw Tyler off-balance after the first round and they made them just push straight against each other.
[QUOTE=Ch@llengeFan;276672]wes had done 2 other finals and never gassed. fresh meat 1 and duel 1 final. this was clearly the hardest final and even with him gassing they had like a 45 min lead or something like that i heard going into day 2. think he said he was sick too going into the final, maybe they just showed jenn and tyler. if you want to point out freshmeat 2 im pretty sure he owed evelyn and thought she had the best chance to win and threw the exile.[/QUOTE]
They pretty much had that lead in spite of Wes not because of him. If you don't want to take Kenny's word for it Johnny, Tyler, Paula, and Leroy have all pretty much confirmed it. The guy admitted he wasn't in runner's shape so I don't know why it's a debate that he ****ed that up when he basically admitted that he did.
[QUOTE=Blue123;276670]
Come on man, Rivals final was way harder than any of the other finals. Not to mention JEK and Derrick have been on like 100 challenges, Wes took a long break. [/QUOTE]
As for the break that Wes took...that break ended four challenges ago. He's done three out of the last four....the same number that Kenny, Derrick, and Johnny have done so I don't know why that gives him license to be unprepared.
[QUOTE=townie;276677]Derrick might be able to take Wes in something physical strength related now if he's been regularly working out and is in the best shape of his life. Wes is NOT as strong as people think he is and a big reason why he beat Derrick was because Derrick gassed. I think Derrick would take him in any sort of hand-to-hand physical game for sure. On Cutthroat he looked like he was giving Tyler a very tough time in their Gulag in the first round but on his podcast, Derrick said that they didn't allow him to push the pole from side to side to throw Tyler off-balance after the first round and they made them just push straight against each other.[/QUOTE]
Derrick also said on his podcast that he knocked Tyler over the side like 3 or 4 times total and not just once like they showed on TV.
I don't understand, if the guy was in such bad shape how did they have a 45 minute lead on Johnny and Tyler and god knows how much of a lead on Mike and Leroy? Seriously, they should have won the challenge, they completed everything and took the wear and tear to complete it at a higher speed only to have it taken away. Wasn't even remotely fair. On top of that, it was the hardest final by far.
[QUOTE=JL81790;276681]
As for the break that Wes took...that break ended four challenges ago. He's done three out of the last four....the same number that Kenny, Derrick, and Johnny have done so I don't know why that gives him license to be unprepared.[/QUOTE]
Since Wes came back JEK and Derrick won the ruins together, the challenge where Evan, Kenny and Derrick didnt even go in an elimination. I bet half the people doing these shows couldnt handle that final, those other finals looked simple compared to this 1, just look at Abe and Sarah they got effed up over easier stuff than what was on this last 1. And on rivals Wes ****ed up bad but I'd say considering he was puking and **** and him and Kenny pretty much whopped the others on the 1st day doesnt seem too bad. Wes is more of an elimination person than a finals person, Maybe Derrick is in better shape but Wes hasn't gotten any smaller in size so Wes vs Derrick I'd say moneys on Wes.
I think the main point of all this isn't who is better, but how much Derrick flipped out over the original tweet that he keeps acting like Wes said he was dominated or something. He just said he beat Derrick in a stacked duel cast with ct/evan/kenny. Somehow of all the stupid *** Wes says, this causes 15 tweets of retaliation and a pitiful attempt to get any rw cast member to side with you. Come on Derrick, do you need approval that bad? You know they will side with you against Wes no matter what is said, so what is your f'ng point dude? Get over yourself. You lost fair and square.
Who is to say how things would have went down if Wes lost there, but if he did, my money is on CT making it to the finals because than Wes would have never convinced Evan to call him out and CT would have made it to the finals IMO. Ct vs Derrick in final, CT all day. But stop making excuses Derrick, it doesn't matter what shape you come into the challenge, that is your own fault not Wes's. Wes could say the same thing against Cohutta when he lost, but once you get that call, everyone has same chance. Don't act like he knew about it 2 years in advance of you and you had a day to train. I am not a Wes fan and i feel like I am defending this guy just because Derrick is being such an ***. I'm disgusted :)
Wes did win the duel 1 which had a pretty stacked cast. It required some luck and some games that favored him towards the end, but he did it. He definately caught a few breaks, but beating Derrick was not one of them, he fought hard and was the better competitor in that elimination.
[QUOTE=townie;276677]On Cutthroat he looked like he was giving Tyler a very tough time in their Gulag in the first round but on his podcast, Derrick said that they didn't allow him to push the pole from side to side to throw Tyler off-balance after the first round and they made them just push straight against each other.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure If I read it here, but I did read somewhere that Tyler smoked Derrick.
Hopefully the BMP finds out or is aware about this Wes vs Derrick fued and cast them on the next challenge which SHOULD be the Duel 3(come ON already i wanna see the Duel 3 for goodness SAKES!!!).
[QUOTE=pmfg10;276752]I'm not sure If I read it here, but I did read somewhere that Tyler smoked Derrick.[/QUOTE]
You probably read it here and it wasn't completely true. Derrick lost 2-0, which could be considered an easy win for Tyler but it lasted much longer and Tyler worked a lot harder than what was shown on TV. From what they showed on TV (edited of course)....it makes it look like Tyler beat Derrick with ease.
I think Derrick just realizes he's been boring lately so he's blowing up this Wes beef just trying to get asked back on a challenge. He even tweeted BMP begging them to put him on a challenge with Wes. Just seems a bit desperate to me, but I do like Derrick.
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