The Challenge: Rivals - Wes Bergmann

I looked at Wes' twitter page and got a good laugh at it. He was retweeting nothing but insults. theJEKEmpire had the funniest one. Johanna tweeted to him that he does not look good in yellow and said that Wes is not that bad outside of the shows. So maybe Wes is just laughing at all the negative reaction he's getting because on the show he's just playing a character. Hey does the JEKEmpire post here? He is soooo funny.

[QUOTE=Camille;272049]Hey does the JEKEmpire post here? He is soooo funny.[/QUOTE] I wish he did, he's quite hilarious.

[QUOTE=Camille;272049] Hey does the JEKEmpire post here? He is soooo funny.[/QUOTE] I've seen that guy's tweets and he sounds like a crack head, has like a million tweets insulting CT, CT even blocked him, like I know he really likes JEK but harassing a guy all day? come on. He sounds a lot like Johnny lol but the one about who would be real rivals is Wes vs sunlight gave me a laugh.

[QUOTE=Blue123;272061]I've seen that guy's tweets and he sounds like a crack head, has like a million tweets insulting CT, CT even blocked him, like I know he really likes JEK but harassing a guy all day? come on. He sounds a lot like Johnny lol but the one about who would be real rivals is Wes vs sunlight gave me a laugh.[/QUOTE] He just sounds like a fratboy meathead who worships at the altar of Johnny Bananas and his friends, so ofcourse he's going to insult CT and Wes constantly. I think it's funny. CT blocked him while Wes just retweeted a really hilarious insult from him. He does sound like Johnny Bananas! Pretty sure Bananas loves having his little fanboy worship him constantly. Got to give it to him, he's got some good zingers.

I bet it [I]is[/I] Johnny. Because I find it hard that anyone would like them three enough to constantly stick up for them.

Mint performance by Wes in the Rivals final. Almost as magnificent as his FM2 exile. Zeus you did TOO GOOD a job at crafting his body, he is a physical specimen who is good at everything.

[QUOTE=RWRRULES;273499]Mint performance by Wes in the Rivals final. Almost as magnificent as his FM2 exile. Zeus you did TOO GOOD a job at crafting his body, he is a physical specimen who is good at everything.[/QUOTE] You do know he pretty much tanked all his conditions and still finished? If he would have quit then you can make fun of him like that. Just look at abram last finals.

[QUOTE=jace89;273505]You do know he pretty much tanked all his conditions and still finished? If he would have quit then you can make fun of him like that. Just look at abram last finals.[/QUOTE] He was the only one nicked up? as Kenny alluded to he was hurt too, but didn't ***** about it. Abe wasn't as bad as Sarah(gleaming about how she was a good competitor, and demeaning Cara Maria's ability to run a final) on that one or Wes in this one. If you **** TALK the entire time and brag about how great you are, like Wes does on national t.v, every single challenge, then yes people will enjoy the times you fail. 80 % of the time Wes shows up to these challenges he fails. Clearly he is not as good as he thinks he is.

[QUOTE=jace89;273505]You do know he pretty much tanked all his conditions and still finished? If he would have quit then you can make fun of him like that. Just look at abram last finals.[/QUOTE] It is impressive that he didn't quit. But surely you realize the only reason people are trashing him is because he needs to learn a lesson in humility. He talks and talks about how great he is and how he could run circles around C.T. in a final. Then it comes time to back that up and he doesn't follow through. Nobody would be giving him a hard time if he weren't so full of himself, while also putting down other competitors saying they suck. I wasn't on vevmo for Cutthroat, but I know I didn't give Abram a hard time (as a viewer) because he doesn't talk crap. He got dehydrated, it happens. But Sarah on the other hand, was putting down Cara Maria a lot that season so there is a reason to talk about her and how she couldn't finish despite the fact that she was supposed to be better than CM. Bottom line is that Wes brought all the hate on himself because of his attitude and the way he talks about himself and others. I haven't seen any Mike haters, and why is that? Because he is a nice guy who didn't talk himself up like Wes does.

[QUOTE=DomDom7;273514]It is impressive that he didn't quit. But surely you realize the only reason people are trashing him is because he needs to learn a lesson in humility. He talks and talks about how great he is and how he could run circles around C.T. in a final. Then it comes time to back that up and he doesn't follow through. Nobody would be giving him a hard time if he weren't so full of himself, while also putting down other competitors saying they suck. I wasn't on vevmo for Cutthroat, but I know I didn't give Abram a hard time (as a viewer) because he doesn't talk crap. He got dehydrated, it happens. But Sarah on the other hand, was putting down Cara Maria a lot that season so there is a reason to talk about her and how she couldn't finish despite the fact that she was supposed to be better than CM. Bottom line is that Wes brought all the hate on himself because of his attitude and the way he talks about himself and others. I haven't seen any Mike haters, and why is that? Because he is a nice guy who didn't talk himself up like Wes does.[/QUOTE] Exactly......... But he was not the only one hurt, as Kenny mentioned he was hurting too,to what extend we do not know,but he kept on going without complaint.

[QUOTE=RWRRULES;273515]Exactly......... But he was not the only one hurt, as Kenny mentioned he was hurting too,to what extend we do not know,but he kept on going without complaint.[/QUOTE] Did you see his knees? Kenny was NOT as banged up as wes.

[QUOTE=RWRRULES;273515]Exactly......... But he was not the only one hurt, as Kenny mentioned he was hurting too,to what extend we do not know,but he kept on going without complaint.[/QUOTE] It sounded like everyone was hurting on this final, it was pretty tough! [QUOTE=jace89;273516]Did you see his knees? Kenny was NOT as banged up as wes.[/QUOTE] That is not the point though, you are wondering why people are talking bad about him and I gave you the answer, not gonna type it all again.......

Last time I root for Wes...The guy has no heart and can't win even with a lead! Kenny should've thrown him off the mountain.

[QUOTE=DomDom7;273518]It sounded like everyone was hurting on this final, it was pretty tough! That is not the point though, you are wondering why people are talking bad about him and I gave you the answer, not gonna type it all again.......[/QUOTE] Wes is the villain. Thats the only reason he gets "hate". My point is kenny is no different from wes, yet he doesn't get the same treatment. After fresh meat 1, wes NOT one time blamed casey for the lost. Kenny said he lost because he had a fat as his partner.

[QUOTE=jace89;273520]Wes is the villain. Thats the only reason he gets "hate". My point is kenny is no different from wes, yet he doesn't get the same treatment. After fresh meat 1, wes NOT one time blamed casey for the lost. Kenny said he lost because he a fat as his partner.[/QUOTE] It isn't necessarily that he is the villain, it is that he hypes himself up big time and does not back up his talk with performance. I don't recall his attitude during the Duel but after he won that he got really cocky and full of himself. If he hadn't been comparing himself to gods this challenge maybe people wouldn't be talking about how badly he failed to back that up. I never said Kenny is a saint. He can be really mean on camera to the other cast members and sure he is confident in himself but the way he is sure of himself hasn't bugged me [B][U]on this challenge[/U][/B] like how Wes has. Kenny performed great on this final. I didn't hear him all challenge talking about how great he is though. [B][U]Understand I usually can't stand Johnny and Kenny[/U][/B]. Right and calling Casey a dumb ***** is so much better...

[QUOTE=DomDom7;273523]It isn't necessarily that he is the villain, it is that he hypes himself up big time and does not back up his talk with performance. I don't recall his attitude during the Duel but after he won that he got really cocky and full of himself. If he hadn't been comparing himself to gods this challenge maybe people wouldn't be talking about how badly he failed to back that up. I never said Kenny is a saint. He can be really mean on camera to the other cast members and sure he is confident in himself but the way he is sure of himself hasn't bugged me [B][U]on this challenge[/U][/B] like how Wes has. Kenny performed great on this final. I didn't hear him all challenge talking about how great he is though. [B][U]Understand I usually can't stand Johnny and Kenny[/U][/B]. Right and calling Casey a dumb ***** is so much better...[/QUOTE] LOL wes has always been cocky. Wes apologized to casey on the ride home and didn't treat her like that for the rest of the show. How can you say wes didn't perform well? IT CAME DOWN TO FINDING A FREAKING KEY WITH A GPS!! The time he was on the floor didn't effect them in the long run.

[QUOTE=jace89;273525]LOL wes has always been cocky. Wes apologized to casey on the ride home and didn't treat her like that for the rest of the show. [B]How can you say wes didn't perform well? IT CAME DOWN TO FINDING A FREAKING KEY WITH A GPS!! The time he was on the floor didn't effect them in the long run[/B].[/QUOTE] Wes had to be carried on day 1...did you miss that? Did you also miss the fact that Kenny/Wes got a 2 minute head start and because Wes was so exhausted, Johnny and Tyler caught up to them? Had Wes performed as well as Kenny, they would have found the key much sooner than Johnny and Tyler did and would have won! I think you might need to watch it over again, because you're obviously missing those details.

[QUOTE=crazy8oooo;273528]Wes had to be carried on day 1...did you miss that? Did you also miss the fact that Kenny/Wes got a 2 minute head start and because Wes was so exhausted, Johnny and Tyler caught up to them? Had Wes performed as well as Kenny, they would have found the key much sooner than Johnny and Tyler did and would have won! I think you might need to watch it over again, because you're obviously missing those details.[/QUOTE] THEY COULD HAVE WON IF THEY FOUND THE KEY BEFORE THE OTHER TEAM!!!!!! None of that stuff really effected the game, but since their key was farther away from the finish line it didn't matter if they had a head start.

[QUOTE=jace89;273532]THEY COULD HAVE WON IF THEY FOUND THE KEY BEFORE THE OTHER TEAM!!!!!! None of that stuff really effected the game, but since their key was farther away from the finish line it didn't matter if they had a head start.[/QUOTE] LOL...Re-read your post and think about it for a minute...now, answer this question: Wouldn't you think that with a 2-minute head start, Wes/Kenny should have found the key sooner than Tyler/Johnny did? Obviously, with Wes punking out, he gave Johnny and Tyler the chance to catch up to them, which then allowed them to find the key before Wes and Kenny did. Come on, it's really not that difficult to figure out...

[QUOTE=crazy8oooo;273539]LOL...Re-read your post and think about it for a minute...now, answer this question: Wouldn't you think that with a 2-minute head start, Wes/Kenny should have found the key sooner than Tyler/Johnny did? Obviously, with Wes punking out, he gave Johnny and Tyler the chance to catch up to them, which then allowed them to find the key before Wes and Kenny did. Come on, it's really not that difficult to figure out...[/QUOTE] Okay, lets have scavenger hunt and i put your key closer to you and mines will be on the other side of field. Even with a head start it didn't matter. .....AND WHY COULDN'T KENNY RUN ON WITHOUT HIM AND FIND THE KEY?

[QUOTE=jace89;273542]Okay, lets have scavenger hunt and i put your key closer to you and mines will be on the other side of field. Even with a head start it didn't matter. .....AND WHY COULDN'T KENNY RUN ON WITHOUT HIM AND FIND THE KEY?[/QUOTE] Oh, so basically MTV schemed to give Johnny and Tyler an advantage? Wow... Kenny did not run ahead, because much like the rest of the final, he had to continue to turn back and pull Wes along. If Kenny had moved ahead, Wes would have stopped and given up. How can you sit there and actually defend Wes? Believe me, I wanted Wes to win throughout the entire competition, but it's rather difficult to praise the guy after completely failing to hold up two years in a row in the finals.

[QUOTE=crazy8oooo;273545]Oh, so basically MTV schemed to give Johnny and Tyler an advantage? Wow... Kenny did not run ahead, because much like the rest of the final, he had to continue to turn back and pull Wes along. If Kenny had moved ahead, Wes would have stopped and given up. How can you sit there and actually defend Wes? Believe me, I wanted Wes to win throughout the entire competition, but it's rather difficult to praise the guy after completely failing to hold up two years in a row in the finals.[/QUOTE] Yes or no: would they have won If wes and kenny's key was closer to the goal and theirs was in the other spot? So mick vick hurts his leg and plays threw the pain, he should also critiqued for his teams lost?

[QUOTE=jace89;273549]Yes or no: would they have won If wes and kenny's key was closer to the goal and theirs was in the other spot? So mick vick hurts his leg and plays threw the pain, he should also critiqued for his teams lost?[/QUOTE] You're still missing the entire point. Johnny and Tyler caught up to Wes and Kenny at the time they all reached the GPS units...[I][B]before [/B][/I] looking for the keys. That means that Johnny and Tyler climbed up the mountain 2 minutes faster than Kenny and Wes did. Why is that? Are you blaming that on the location of the key? The location of the key had nothing to do with them catching up to Wes and Kenny...Nothing at all! Furthermore, Wes and Kenny found their key shortly after Johnny and Tyler found theirs, which means if Wes had climbed up the mountain as quickly as Tyler and Johnny did, he and Kenny would have won, despite the location of the key. I don't know why you're insisting that they lost because of the key. It didn't take them 2 minutes longer to get to their key than it did for Johnny and Tyler. And Michael Vick has nothing to do with this challenge. You're talking about a completely different scenario.

[QUOTE=crazy8oooo;273554]You're still missing the entire point. Johnny and Tyler caught up to Wes and Kenny at the time they all reached the GPS units...[I][B]before [/B][/I] looking for the keys. That means that Johnny and Tyler climbed up the mountain 2 minutes faster than Kenny and Wes did. Why is that? Are you blaming that on the location of the key? The location of the key had nothing to do with them catching up to Wes and Kenny...Nothing at all! Furthermore, Wes and Kenny found their key shortly after Johnny and Tyler found theirs, which means if Wes had climbed up the mountain as quickly as Tyler and Johnny did, he and Kenny would have won, despite the location of the key. I don't know why you're insisting that they lost because of the key. It didn't take them 2 minutes longer to get to their key than it did for Johnny and Tyler. And Michael Vick has nothing to do with this challenge. You're talking about a completely different scenario.[/QUOTE] You have no idea what you're talking about. LOL, all 4 teams caught up after the head start, so your point is invalid.

[QUOTE=jace89;273560]You have no idea what you're talking about. LOL, all 4 teams caught up after the head start, so your point is invalid.[/QUOTE] WTF? You're discrediting my points because Laurel and Cara Maria climbed the mountain quicker than Evelyn and Paula did? Who cares if they also reached at the same time, thereby closing the 2-minute head start that Ev and Paula had...This discussion has nothing to do with the girls teams, so how does that discredit my points about Wes? If you're going to ignore valid points because you have no rebuttal for them, there's no reason to continue having this discussion with you. It's like arguing that the sky is green, because you said it is...it makes no sense.

[QUOTE=crazy8oooo;273568]WTF? You're discrediting my points because Laurel and Cara Maria climbed the mountain quicker than Evelyn and Paula did? Who cares if they also reached at the same time, thereby closing the 2-minute head start that Ev and Paula had...This discussion has nothing to do with the girls teams, so how does that discredit my points about Wes? [/QUOTE] Did the girls have a different mission than the guys? if no your is still invalid.

[QUOTE=jace89;273572]Did the girls have a different mission than the guys? if no your is still invalid.[/QUOTE] Let me know when you're willing to respond to the point at hand instead of bringing up something from left field that has no relevance to the points I'm making.

He may have lost the final for Kenny but to be fair, he's the reason Kenny even GOT to the final. Kenny sucked in most of the missions and in the Jungle, so Wes is the reason Kenny won any money at all.

PS: when are all the confessionals done during the Challenges? Are they all done at the end? because initially, when Kenny was doing badly, Wes seemed to be pretty supportive and encouraging to Kenny, but then trashed him in the confessional interviews, and if they're done at the end, after Kenny was a total *** to him when he was down, I could see why Wes would talk all that *** about Kenny in the interviews. I'd be pissed off, too.

[QUOTE=brunett;273581]PS: when are all the confessionals done during the Challenges? Are they all done at the end? because initially, when Kenny was doing badly, Wes seemed to be pretty supportive and encouraging to Kenny, but then trashed him in the confessional interviews, and if they're done at the end, after Kenny was a total *** to him when he was down, I could see why Wes would talk all that *** about Kenny in the interviews. I'd be pissed off, too.[/QUOTE] Those are more like episode commentary than confessionals.