[QUOTE=greenmonster;340336]I personally would love to see a Diem-Emily team, but I was just pointing out other options. Team Diem-Emily would be borderline unfair if you ask me but, they would absolutely dominate and be really fun to watch.[/QUOTE]
If Diem was 100% healthy it would definitely be borderline unfair. I really think they're going to set this up for Emily to win hoping to add to her popularity. She'll probably either be with Diem or Paula. Emily-Paula does make perfect sense after Exes because it is a legit rivalry.
Diem could also be with Aneesa or Camila
[QUOTE=kvm1977;340335]Blue, that's fine [B]but do not state that a rival has nothing to do with competition.[/B] It absolutely does. This comment "lol what do you mean by has to do with competition?" is why you got the response you did. My statement was accurate and you came back with this nonsense. If you just said "MTV stretches things" this wouldn't have been a discussion--but Jenn-Cara Maria is definitely not a rivalry by definition--that is all I stated.[/QUOTE]
When did I state that? you need to chill, I was asking what you meant and was saying competition is not the only thing that can make someone a "rival" on this show, Mtv doesnt care about definitions and you know that so I dont get what your problem is.
I think the guy teams are relatively easy....CT & Danny (Gauntlet 3), Derek & Robb (BoTS), Dunbar & Tyrie (Island--reach), Frank & Johnny (Social Media), Jordan & Marlon (Portland), Leroy & Wes (Exes), Preston & Knight (NOLA2 & BoTS) and Trey & Zach (BoTS--reach)
[QUOTE=Blue123;340340]When did I state that? you need to chill, I was asking what you meant and was saying competition is not the only thing that can make someone a "rival" on this show, Mtv doesnt care about definitions and you know that so I dont get what your problem is.[/QUOTE]
No, you weren't...see the "lol" part.
[QUOTE=Blue123;340340]When did I state that? you need to chill, I was asking what you meant and was saying competition is not the only thing that can make someone a "rival" on this show, Mtv doesnt care about definitions and you know that so I dont get what your problem is.[/QUOTE]
You guys both need to chill before you both get sent on vacations.
I love how people said if its rivals 2 they would be annoyed to see cara maria replacing Naomi if she actually quit.
But you guys have to realiazed that if its rivals 2 Cooke didnt have any on screen relationship with any body else other than the Vegas girls. Heather probably decline for her job and Nany is most likely either jonna or Jemmye partner since if she is not one of those two girls would be left without partner. Most likely one of them is going to be pair with camila and the other with Nany.
The only reason I doubt this is a Rivals 2 is because Leroy havent had any argument with another guy other than Adam and Tyler neither of them are on this challenge. I don't see production stretching Dunbar and Paula sending him and Naomi to the elimination against Emily and Ty on exes. It would be dumb.
Creating possible girl teams are more difficult. Sarah & Trishelle is a lock, Emily & Paula (Exes), Anastasia & Jessica (Portland), Jonna & Theresa (Rivals), Camila & Jasmine (Rivals), Aneesa & Diem (Duel), Cooke & Naomi (Vegas-replaces by Cara for no reason) and Jemmye & Nany (BoTS-also a reach)
[QUOTE=Dylans;340345]The only reason I doubt this is a Rivals 2 is because Leroy havent had any argument with another guy other than Adam and Tyler neither of them are on this challenge. I don't see production stretching Dunbar and Paula sending him and Naomi to the elimination against Emily and Ty on exes. It would be dumb.[/QUOTE]
Leroy & Wes is an easy option since they competed against each. All these "rivals" are dumb.
Also, if Cooke had no other rivals then she gets sent home like Sarah & Heather in Exes.
On rials it was camila/jonna and jasmine/Theresa it wasnt the other way around.
I think they would paired jemmye and camila since they had an argument on the bus on seasons.
They can pair jonna with Nany if am not wrong she was one of the girls talking bad about her on CJ and Jasmine elimination round last season.
I don't get why everyone is fighting over Rivals when we don't even know it's pairs yet. It could be large teams, largish teams, or even singles, so how everyone got pairs and then even Rivals is a big stretch
[QUOTE=Dylans;340350]On rials it was camila/jonna and jasmine/Theresa it wasnt the other way around.
I think they would paired jemmye and camila since they had an argument on the bus on seasons.
They can pair jonna with Nany if am not wrong she was one of the girls talking bad about her on CJ and Jasmine elimination round last season.[/QUOTE]
Camila/Theresa/Jonna/Jasmine I saw as any mix was fine. Nany-Jonna, Theresa-Jasmine & Jemmye-Camila works for me
I'm hoping its not rivals cause I want to see good tv and pairing Leroy with Wes and trying to say they had beef is not going to bring in the viewers, most ppl would just go huh?! Rivals was interesting because ppl that didnt like each other had to work together, most of these people like each other just fine. I think its a new concept with 2 people paired at random or maybe champion with challenger? I dont even know if there are enough champions. I dont know but I dont see it being rivals cause I think can come up with something else with this cast. And remember they have to make a promo or something for the show and they need some shots of screaming or something that shows some connection, whether its rivals or bffs or whatever
[QUOTE=Dylans;340345]I love how people said if its rivals 2 they would be annoyed to see cara maria replacing Naomi if she actually quit.
But you guys have to realiazed that if its rivals 2 Cooke didnt have any on screen relationship with any body else other than the Vegas girls. Heather probably decline for her job and Nany is most likely either jonna or Jemmye partner.[/QUOTE]
Right, which is why Cooke should be sent home too (if Naomi quit) ala Sarah on Exes and Sydney on Seasons 2. And Cara should be brought in with another girl rival.
Let's say Naomi quit and Cooke was her partner , Then they would if they could or really wanted to reshoot and just remake these rivals Nany/Jonna and Cooke/Naomi into Nany and Cooke , Jonna and Cara Maria. just pure speculation.
[QUOTE=Npresh24;340355]Let's say Naomi quit and Cooke was her partner , Then they would if they could or really wanted to reshoot and just remake these rivals Nany/Jonna and Cooke/Naomi into Nany and Cooke , Jonna and Cara Maria. just pure speculation.[/QUOTE]
I don't even think that Naomi quit, I think Jessica did. Naomi knows she isn't a strong competitor and doesn't seem like a quitter...Jessica does.
[QUOTE=Lola88;340356]And LeRoy wouldn't be paired with Wes, he'd be paired with Dunbar (it's the only option, yes it's a stretch, but who cares? They all are stretches)[/QUOTE]
I completely disagree. Leroy & Wes makes more sense than Leroy & Dunbar.
Hell, who do you pair with Tyrie if it isn't Dunbar? Johnny?
[QUOTE=Blue123;340353]I'm hoping its not rivals cause I want to see good tv and pairing Leroy with Wes and trying to say they had beef is not going to bring in the viewers, most ppl would just go huh?! Rivals was interesting because ppl that didnt like each other had to work together, most of these people like each other just fine. I think its a new concept with 2 people paired at random or maybe champion with challenger? I dont even know if there are enough champions. I dont know but I dont see it being rivals cause I think can come up with something else with this cast. And remember they have to make a promo or something for the show and they need some shots of screaming or something that shows some connection, whether its rivals or bffs or whatever[/QUOTE]
Im sorry to burst your bubble but the only people that were still harboring animosity on Rivals I were:
Adam & CT
Cara Maria & Laurel
Evan & Nehemiah
Kenny & Wes
Everyone else got on just fine.
Well,I am friend with Cooke on Facebook and she still MIA. Her sister wrote that she hope she is kicking *** on Friday.
On production defense according to cara Maria formspring if someone get dq or quit before the first elimination then they get a replacement. If its after like Sarah/heather on exes they would get sent home. If its before filming and if it has an specific theme then the entire team get sent home.
[QUOTE=Dylans;340361]Well,I am friend with Cooke on Facebook and she still MIA. Her sister wrote that she hope she is kicking *** on Friday.
On production defense according to cara Maria formspring if someone get dq or quit before the first elimination then they get a replacement. If its after like Sarah/heather on exes they would get sent home. If its before filming and if it has an specific theme then the entire team get sent home.[/QUOTE]
So, hopefully Anastasia and Jessica were just removed from the cast and they brought in Cara Maria & someone that can be deemed a rival (or whatever the theme may be)--even if it is a stretch.
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;340359]Im sorry to burst your bubble but the only people that were still harboring animosity on Rivals I were:
Adam & CT
Cara Maria & Laurel
Evan & Nehemiah
Kenny & Wes
Everyone else got on just fine.[/QUOTE]
I'm aware and those were close enough, at least they had screaming clips of Tyrie/Davis, Leroy/Adam and whoever else, some of these ppl I dont see them fitting at all
[QUOTE=Dylans;340361]Well,I am friend with Cooke on Facebook and she still MIA. Her sister wrote that she hope she is kicking *** on Friday.
On production defense according to cara Maria formspring if someone get dq or quit before the first elimination then they get a replacement. If its after like Sarah/heather on exes they would get sent home. If its before filming and if it has an specific theme then the entire team get sent home.[/QUOTE]
And if its rivals, then it is a specific theme. Also there is a social media ban so I doubt it'll be obvious like posting on Facebook when she is back home :/ just sayin.
[QUOTE=Blue123;340363]I'm aware and those were close enough, at least they had screaming clips of Tyrie/Davis, Leroy/Adam and whoever else, some of these ppl I dont see them fitting at all[/QUOTE]
Look at this promo for Evelyn and Paula, their whole rivalry was based off Paula not immediately saying hi to Evelyn on FM2
[video=youtube;XXh-eIKzXzM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXh-eIKzXzM[/video]
I know there was some **** on the Island but that was more Kenny and Johnny screwing over Paula than Paula vs Evelyn.
We went from splitting the alleged cast down to a Vets vs Rookies, now we're thinking its Rivals and at the same time there is almost an even amount of cliques/alliances. I'd really hope this will be a new format and not pairs but producers strategically planned it that way to create good tv? Let us pray!
I dont really think it's Rivals just because Johnny won't be paired up with Wes, Frank or CT. These are they only rivals he had without a too far stretch.
BMP/MTV probably won't pair up Johnny with Wes, because this way the veterans will dominate the game pretty easy. Since all veterans (+Trey and Portland people) would go against Zach/Frank. And BMP/MTV sure won't give Frank such a storyline which usually good guys or bad guys with redeeming qualities will have considering the fact that Frank is said to be a rating killer, plus this will make the season very predictable.
Johnny and CT. Would that be fair? And I definitely think that BMP/MTV wants that those will clash in a final again.
Johnny and Frank. Hell no. BMP/MTV definitely wants that this two will clash and play against eachother.
Plus, remember Tyler was part of the cast prior departure day and than was cut off. The only rival he had was Leroy and I dont see why he got cut off and Leroy not.
I think it's like Rivals, but a veteran and a rookie will be paired up.
Or TJ told the cast, that it is Veterans vs. Rookies and then he told that they have to make teams of two now. So it was Veterans team split into two teams and the rookies too. Nobody wanted to be paired up with Jess so Ana was stick with her. Prior to the first elimination Naomi (who was voted in) quit, because she though she would cost Cooke a win. TJ then told the veterans that Noami's replacement would be one of their on and then CM replaced her and Jess/Anastasia lost the elimination round.
[QUOTE=JL81790;340302]I'm glad Duel 3 isn't an option. Besides Johnny and CT and MAYBE Zach, Frank, and Leroy this is a fairly weak group of guys. The Duel 1 cast was stacked but Landon, Evan, and Mark won every challenge on the Duel 2 and it made it not as interesting.
Plus on the girls side you could just hand Emily the check.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't necessarily say Emily would win if this was the Duel. You have Camila and Aneesa (the Duel Queen)
[QUOTE=kvm1977;340304]I don't remember Jenn & Cara Maria having any type of relationship--positive or negative. If anything Cara would fit with Paula if it was another "Rivals". I'm just disappointed by this whole thing. Another horrible season waiting to happen.[/QUOTE]
Didn't Jenn and Cara get into it when they were in the bar and Jenn was talking about knocking her out?
[QUOTE=ILoveRW;340365]Look at this promo for Evelyn and Paula, their whole rivalry was based off Paula not immediately saying hi to Evelyn on FM2
I know there was some **** on the Island but that was more Kenny and Johnny screwing over Paula than Paula vs Evelyn.[/QUOTE]
ya and that worked, most of us knew Paula hated Ev or maybe more like jealous of her. They didnt have an actual clip but they made it work, the wrongly placed quote in the smoke promo worked too. If the people have real beef they dont need screaming clips to convince the audience why they are partners but if its a stretch like Jen/Mandi or Tyrie/Davis then you need something in the promos
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