[QUOTE=Challenge 17;361186]When I said new low i was talking about her talking about her cancer
And I think its Camilla not Cooke BC in the mid season trailer Camilla says to diem" do you really think I can't kick your ***![/QUOTE]
I highly doubt it's Camila since Camila and Diem are good friends and they interact on Twitter and have done joint interviews together since Rivals 2 started airing.
Did not see that this question had already been answered, did not mean to be redundant.
Cooke must know this, that's why she's trying to backtrack on Twitter. I don't know what it is she says, but If ANYONE in the house sticks with Cooke after it, I will of lost any liking I have for the remaining competitors. Other than Cooke, I actually LIKE everyone els !
[QUOTE=kvm1977;361201]Depends on the person[/QUOTE]
Not in real life. Not unless you're a sociopath. Otherwise you'd drown in the guilt and fakery. And loneliness (when no one knows and loves who you truly are).
[QUOTE=Britney;361205]Not in real life. Not unless you're a sociopath. Otherwise you'd drown in the guilt and fakery. And loneliness (when no one knows and loves who you truly are).[/QUOTE]
But people create "personas" for reality TV...this isn't real life to many of them
See CT vs Chris...two entirely different people
Even Wes
I agree. On TV, I know it pays, sometimes.
But in real life, where it matters, does it really? I think not. Not in terms of the things that hold meaning to most people. Love, family, career. :(
Better to be real, genuine, and honest...
[QUOTE=Britney;361207]I agree. On TV, I know it pays, sometimes.
But in real life, where it matters, does it really? I think not. Not in terms of the things that hold meaning to most people. Love, family, career. :(
Better to be real, genuine, and honest...[/QUOTE]
Some people's real genuine and honest is boring, lol I doubt anyone wants to see nerdy Wes talk about the boring crap he does in real life and calm CT isnt fun either. As for Cooke, Ive noticed she still has friends in the cast so its not like everyone hates her so maybe its not THAT bad
How different is CT from Chris and Chris from CT though....I have wondered about this. I am sure they are not exactly one in the same but I don't think everything with CT on the challenge is played up for the cameras....a lot is....for sure....but not everything. For example, CT is a ladies man on the challenges and I get the sense so is Chris in his everyday life. I remember watching CT on the Real World Paris and he had an anger problem even back then that I thought seemed real. I think Chris has even stated in interviews that he thought at one time if he wasn't careful that the same thing might happen to him that happened to his brother and I took that to mean that his brother got into some scraps with people and Chris could also be that way as well and he knew he needed to dial it down now. I think there are similarities between the MTV persona of CT and Chris....now obviously a lot of differences as well, like many things are played up for cameras but I don't think it is all fakery with him. Just my opinion. Now I need to say something about Diem since this is the Diem and Aneesa thread. I don't know if Diem has just shown up for challenges just for the appearance fees or not (I have no inside info obviously) but even if she has, how is that different than many of the other cast members.
I remember this one scene from Real World Paris where CT actually showed the audience some realness and personal insight that I have not seen much from him since on subsequent challenge shows. It was when CT was fighting with Leah and Christina (I think that was her name) and he said he knew that he needed to calm down and learn how to communicate with the girls instead of yelling at them. He went on to say that he yelled as a defense mechanism to get them to go away and so he wouldn't have to deal with the situation. He said he wanted to get along with the girls better and he needed to work to change his behavior. So yes, CT has actually shown some self-insight on these shows, lol, shocking.
I think where Chris and the MTV persona of CT differ is I do think the MTV persona of CT comes off as more shallow, just into hooking up and fights and that is it whereas I bet Chris in real life does have a deeper side to him, lol, we saw that with Diem and I am sure with other people in his real life he has demonstrated that as well, but it is kept hidden more on challenges because it is not part of the CT persona.
[QUOTE=Blue123;361209]Some people's real genuine and honest is boring, lol I doubt anyone wants to see nerdy Wes talk about the boring crap he does in real life and calm CT isnt fun either. As for Cooke, Ive noticed she still has friends in the cast so its not like everyone hates her so maybe its not THAT bad[/QUOTE]
Really? I've always found those people entertaining because I thought they were just naturally energetic and charismatic. :( Yes, I expect some slight alterations of behavior when they're suddenly in front of a camera... but not to such an extreme that it distorts their natural personalities. Again, perhaps I am just too trusting. :/
I bet it runs the gamut with Challenge cast members....probably some are totally different when the cameras come on than how they would be in their everyday life, then a few are real as real can get, and then others it is half and half...you get some aspects of their real personality and some acting mixed in there too. It is up to the audience to decide which cast members fit into which category. I have always thought of the challenges as being a mixture of real and fake, half and half, whereas other reality shows I might say oh that is mostly real or all fake.
Did anybody else see the Instagram pic that Ct put up and then took down of him in NYC last night with Diem, Ashley and his friend. I don't understand why he had to take it down-unless it got reported. Glad to see that he and Diem are on good terms, especially after the mid season teaser.
Diem, Camilla and Cara Maria have stated that they are going to the VMAs. Jemmye is going to NYC on Thursday and Knight was there last night with scooter. CT was in NYC last night with Diem. Are they filming the reunion this week?? Who else is going to the VMAs?
[QUOTE=cheech;361285]Diem, Camilla and Cara Maria have stated that they are going to the VMAs. Jemmye is going to NYC on Thursday and Knight was there last night with scooter. CT was in NYC last night with Diem. Are they filming the reunion this week?? Who else is going to the VMAs?[/QUOTE]
If theyre filming the reunion they all have to be there at the same time, might be more online aftershows, Wes, paula and Kenny did aftershows with the girl code girls last week. I wish theyd stop getting Kenny to do them, he doesnt know anything, Id rather have CT talk about his fights than Kenny or Laurel, and Laurel only did it once they got Kenny doing 2 after shows. Hopefully the CT/Wes/Johnny fight is the episode Wes will be talking about
Maybe CT and Diem are not suppose to be seen together for television purposes, who knows?
I might have an unpopular opinion here but, hear me out...
I don't think Cooke making fun of Diem's cancer will be that bad in the public eye.
I am not trying to be cruel or merciless but, People are mean. We live in a world full of desensitized human beings who don't care and don't know how to be empathetic. Look at the social media websites; they are already talking about how Diem is using her cancer as a tool to get people to feel sorry for her and people are saying they are tired of her, "cancer story" So like I said before, I don't think the public will be that shocked by Cooke using Diem's cancer against her. I think it wont be what Cooke says about/to Diem but how she says it....
[QUOTE=cheech;361285]Diem, Camilla and Cara Maria have stated that they are going to the VMAs. Jemmye is going to NYC on Thursday and Knight was there last night with scooter. CT was in NYC last night with Diem. [B]Are they filming the reunion this week??[/B] Who else is going to the VMAs?[/QUOTE]
It's scheduled for Wednesday..
[QUOTE=Imjustsayin;361297]Maybe CT and Diem are not suppose to be seen together for television purposes, who knows?
I might have an unpopular opinion here but, hear me out...
I don't think Cooke making fun of Diem's cancer will be that bad in the public eye.
I am not trying to be cruel or merciless but, People are mean. We live in a world full of desensitized human beings who don't care and don't know how to be empathetic. Look at the social media websites; they are already talking about how Diem is using her cancer as a tool to get people to feel sorry for her and people are saying they are tired of her, "cancer story" So like I said before, I don't think the public will be that shocked by Cooke using Diem's cancer against her. I think it wont be what Cooke says about/to Diem but how she says it....[/QUOTE]
Hmmm, well that certainly is an interesting take on it, never thought of it that way. I do agree with you that we do live in a world where people do not know how to be empathetic and especially in the online world people are cynical about everyone and everything and believe that most people in the world have an ulterior motive. I know in my own life I have been tempted to have this view myself just because of my own experiences with people, but I also really do try to fight against it because I have to believe that there are some people in this world who are basically good and who have the best intentions at heart. I also don't think Diem means to overly talk about her cancer. I mean the producers ask her about it too and she just answers the producers questions. I can tell Diem has a mission in life with her MedGift charity to really help people. I mean she has even put personal relationships on hold to do this so it is obviously very important to her. I think she is genuine about it, but I also think people who watch a reality TV show sometimes just want to see the fights and the hookups and everything else and probably get annoyed by a social message, lol, afterall that is not why most people are watching reality TV. Having said that, I like the social message but I am just trying to convey how other people might be feeling.
[QUOTE=LexBlair;361303]It's scheduled for Wednesday..[/QUOTE]
The reunion will be shot in late Sept. [B]Tomorrow [/B]they are shooting "The **** They Should Have Shown." Chris and Knight are in NYC to shoot a commercial.
Cara Maria is waging a Twitter campaign on Diem's behalf. I am so proud of her! I sent her a little note acknowledging what she did. Take a look at what she has had to say:
Cara Maria MTV @CaraMariaMTV 1h
It's easy to make judgements from your couch- but we are real people with real feelings just like you. You never know the whole story.
Cara Maria MTV @CaraMariaMTV 1h
also People ******* n moaning about Diems cancer issues need a reality check. She's not playing a victim. She's showing how to be a fighter.
Cara Maria MTV @CaraMariaMTV 1h
Random fact: @DiemBrownMTV invited me to celebrate thanksgiving when she didn't know me n I was living alone in LA. Kindness never forgotten
Cara Maria MTV @CaraMariaMTV 1h
No one is perfect. No one's life is perfect. From the outside looking in, you'll never know. We all have our own battles. #keepfighting
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[QUOTE=nmanderson;361327]Cara Maria is waging a Twitter campaign on Diem's behalf. I am so proud of her! I sent her a little note acknowledging what she did. Take a look at what she has had to say:
Cara Maria MTV @CaraMariaMTV 1h
It's easy to make judgements from your couch- but we are real people with real feelings just like you. You never know the whole story.
Cara Maria MTV @CaraMariaMTV 1h
also People ******* n moaning about Diems cancer issues need a reality check. She's not playing a victim. She's showing how to be a fighter.
Cara Maria MTV @CaraMariaMTV 1h
Random fact: @DiemBrownMTV invited me to celebrate thanksgiving when she didn't know me n I was living alone in LA. Kindness never forgotten
Cara Maria MTV @CaraMariaMTV 1h
No one is perfect. No one's life is perfect. From the outside looking in, you'll never know. We all have our own battles. #keepfighting
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I agree obviously people shouldnt critisize her when it comes to cancer issues i def agree i mean why would someone , but people can still critisize her other behavior just like anyone else. They dont have to like her if people choose not too it is allowed .. I dont dislike her just saying in general..
This is one of the many reasons I respect Cara Maria.
BTW, on twitter Cara Maria has a link to the house in Montana that Abram designed and built, and where she has been staying since Rivals II was shot, and at the link, there is also a video tour of the house which they rent out under the auspices of Vacation Rental By Owner, ([url=http://www.vrbo.com]VRBO® is Vacation Rentals By Owner[/url]) which my family and I have used.
I saw that clip of Aneesa and Diem. The first one I ever watched of a preview since Dan got into with Robin on the Island, anyway. Aneesa, you are the same age as Diem, I'mma need the two of you to work together to "git her done". Especially this close to the finale. If this was the first 2 weeks then I'd be on Aneesa's side. It's really not that serious.
[QUOTE=jojorules;361331]I agree obviously people shouldnt critisize her when it comes to cancer issues i def agree i mean why would someone , but people can still critisize her other behavior just like anyone else. They dont have to like her if people choose not too it is allowed .. I dont dislike her just saying in general..[/QUOTE]
Amen sister. Just because she has or had cancer doesn't mean or game play CAN'T be criticised . And this is coming from someone who didn't warm up to Diem until G3.
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;361332]That makes me respect Cara Maria more[/QUOTE]
dAMN STRAIGHT. I always liked Cara though. And it's only people who have done 200000 of these who seem to not like her anyway. I would name names but not right now. My feet hurt. lol.
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