The Challenge: Generic Thread

After what I have seen from Johnny Bananas the last two seasons I have to grudgingly consider him the best Challenge contestant ever. Those last two finals were insane and really, only professional athletes should have attempted them. This show has come a long way from its' Spring Break-ish origins.

I love how people who saw a few Challenges start that bull**** how Johnny is an awesome king and best player ever because he won some seasons and Kenny is ******* GOD because omg he has been on so many finals.

Trishelle caused a bit of trouble at the VMAs last night. [url=http://www.examiner.com/article/2012-mtv-vma-rumors-did-nicki-minaj-tell-rihanna-to-sit-the-f-ck-down]2012 MTV VMA Rumors: Did Nicki Minaj tell Rihanna to[/url] Trishelle is hardly the most reliable source, but I did notice a lot of sly looks between Rihanna and the whole Drake gang.

[QUOTE=Help Desk;317245]After what I have seen from Johnny Bananas the last two seasons[B] I have to grudgingly consider him the best Challenge contestant ever. Those last two finals were insane[/B] and really, only professional athletes should have attempted them. This show has come a long way from its' Spring Break-ish origins.[/QUOTE] A little too insane really, these finals are NOT worth 75 000 $. They should be a lot shorter. 30 miles run (Cutthroat) ? Are you kidding me ? 5 would've been enough, with a check point after each mile and a hard puzzle at the end. They are becoming more and more over-the-top to the point where there's only like a handful of competitors who can actually finish them. It's like, you have these really good competitors who do good ALL THE WAY THROUGH and then BAM ! Final. In my opinion, the best final was The Gauntlet 3, it was just enough. You had, Swimming then Puzzle, Running then a little puzzle and finally running and digging the chest. It was perfect in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Mr.Quebec;317276]A little too insane really, these finals are NOT worth 75 000 $. They should be a lot shorter. [B]30 miles run (Cutthroat) [/B]? Are you kidding me ? 5 would've been enough, with a check point after each mile and a hard puzzle at the end. They are becoming more and more over-the-top to the point where there's only like a handful of competitors who can actually finish them. It's like, you have these really good competitors who do good ALL THE WAY THROUGH and then BAM ! Final. In my opinion, the best final was The Gauntlet 3, it was just enough. You had, Swimming then Puzzle, Running then a little puzzle and finally running and digging the chest. It was perfect in my opinion.[/QUOTE] 30 miles?! What challenge did you watch? Before the final challenge began it was said that it was only 12 miles.

[QUOTE=El Scorcho;317277]30 miles?! What challenge did you watch? Before the final challenge began it was said that it was only 12 miles.[/QUOTE]I must've missed something then. I was sure I heard 30 miles :P. Well, you get my point. They are getting more and more over-the-top.

I liked the D2 final challenge. It was the first RW/RR Challenge I ever watched, and I thought it was good cause it had a bit of everything. Plus I was happy with all the people who were in it (except Evan winning, ughh, but he did a decent job that season though, just wish it wasn't him who won cause I don't like him), and from what I remember, everyone was working individually for the most part, so it's not like they could just blame their partner for doing bad.

I think duel 2 finale was my favorite too. Even thought I remember how Brad during reunion said Rachel wasn't diging at all so he did all the job and thats why he gassed out later. But yeah, it was great finale.

[QUOTE=mizwood;317322]I think duel 2 finale was my favorite too. Even thought I remember how Brad during reunion said Rachel wasn't diging at all so he did all the job and thats why he gassed out later. But yeah, it was great finale.[/QUOTE] No, she definitely digged. Yes, digged.

I'm not saying she didn't! I'm huge fan of Rachel and I'm very happy that she won that Challenge. I'm just saying what I remember from reunion.

[QUOTE=mizwood;317324]I'm not saying she didn't! I'm huge fan of Rachel and I'm very happy that she won that Challenge. I'm just saying what I remember from reunion.[/QUOTE] Yeah, Brad was just bitter

[QUOTE=kvm1977;317326]Yeah, Brad was just bitter[/QUOTE] In my opinion, Brad was mad because he had better chances of winning than Evan and he still lost. So maybe he decided if he will blame Rachel he won'tbe looking that bad.

No if you watch the episode again, you will see two things. 1. During the digging part, you will see Brad digging with no sign of Evan/Brittini and Rachel just kind of cheering him on. 2. Rachel flat out says something along the lines of "I see Evan and Brittini coming up and I realize I have to really bust ***" implying that she was not giving it her all, when Brad was.

The easiest way to solve a lot of this is to draft the challengers. So let's say you have the first pick what guy would you take first? And go from there. Also if you asked every make challenger of all time, who is the person you would least like to face in any given elimination challenge, I think CT would have the most votes followed by Landon.

[QUOTE=bigworm;317365]The easiest way to solve a lot of this is to draft the challengers. So let's say you have the first pick what guy would you take first? And go from there. Also if you asked every make challenger of all time, who is the person you would least like to face in any given elimination challenge, I think CT would have the most votes [B]followed by Landon[/B].[/QUOTE] I think people would be more reluctant to go against Alton, Leroy, Mark, and even Evan just because Landon's not the biggest guy.

In the Duel 2 Final Brad had that win in the Bag but the final did take place a day after his Duel against Landon where Landon did rough him up a bit and in the final Rachel not really helping him out is what lead to Evan winning. That being said Brad has been screwed in both Duel finals in the 1st one if it wasn't for the soccer kicks and Wes getting the 5min head start Brad would of won his total time at the end was in fact faster than Wes if it wasn't for the 5min head start. On another note in 3 out of the 4 Finals Brad has been in he was screwed over like in G3 with Big Easy going down and getting the Vets DQ'd.So technically Brad should of won over $ 320,000 with wins in Duel 1 & 2, Gauntlet 3, & Cutthroat which would of made him the biggest winner in Challenge history.

[QUOTE=GiggidyGoo90;317405]In the Duel 2 Final Brad had that win in the Bag but the final did take place a day after his Duel against Landon where Landon did rough him up a bit and in the final Rachel not really helping him out is what lead to Evan winning. That being said Brad has been screwed in both Duel finals in the 1st one if it wasn't for the soccer kicks and Wes getting the 5min head start Brad would of won his total time at the end was in fact faster than Wes if it wasn't for the 5min head start. On another note in 3 out of the 4 Finals Brad has been in he was screwed over like in G3 with Big Easy going down and getting the Vets DQ'd.So technically Brad should of won over $ 320,000 with wins in Duel 1 & 2, Gauntlet 3, & Cutthroat which would of made him the biggest winner in Challenge history.[/QUOTE] Speaking of Brad winning The Duel 2. I always wonder what would happen if he actually had. Like would Evan have agreed to go onto The Ruins being on a Challengers team knowing his best friends (Kenny, Derrick, and Johnny) were all on the Champions team. Like I always wonder what that would be like if Evan hadn't won The Duel 2.

[QUOTE=El Scorcho;317412]Speaking of Brad winning The Duel 2. I always wonder what would happen if he actually had. Like would Evan have agreed to go onto The Ruins being on a Challengers team knowing his best friends (Kenny, Derrick, and Johnny) were all on the Champions team. Like I always wonder what that would be like if Evan hadn't won The Duel 2.[/QUOTE] A few things would have been different: 1. Brad would not have done The Ruins, meaning Darrell would not have gotten kicked off for fighting. 2. Evan may have never won a season. 3. Since Darrell wasn't kicked off, Fresh Meat II teams are probably different since he had first pick.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;317413]A few things would have been different: 1. Brad would not have done The Ruins, meaning Darrell would not have gotten kicked off for fighting. 2. Evan may have never won a season. 3. Since Darrell wasn't kicked off, Fresh Meat II teams are probably different since he had first pick.[/QUOTE] How are you so sure Brad wouldn't have done the ruins, and even if darrell won the ruins how do you know he wouldn't have done fresh meat 2?

[QUOTE=ChallengeGod;317421]How are you so sure Brad wouldn't have done the ruins, and even if darrell won the ruins how do you know he wouldn't have done fresh meat 2?[/QUOTE] Brad flat out stated he was doing them until he won and even said on Gauntlet 3 he may be done. If he wins The Duel 2, he's not coming back, especially without Tori. Darrell came back for FM2 to redeem himself after what happened on The Ruins.

Aren't those assumptions and not facts? Unless you are bros with darrell and brad I don't know how you can be so sure. If your playing the what if game with the duel 2 you can say what if CT hadn't got kicked out, then Brad probably wouldnt have even made the finals. And if your playing the what if game with brad, he should have won battle of the sexes 2 but got screwed over by mark, eric, theo and Dan so technically he should have won 3 challenges (bots2, g3, cutthroat)

[QUOTE=ChallengeGod;317425]Aren't those assumptions and not facts? Unless you are bros with darrell and brad I don't know how you can be so sure. If your playing the what if game with the duel 2 you can say what if CT hadn't got kicked out, then Brad probably wouldnt have even made the finals. And if your playing the what if game with brad, he should have won battle of the sexes 2 but got screwed over by mark, eric, theo and Dan so technically he should have won 3 challenges (bots2, g3, cutthroat)[/QUOTE] It's not "what if" if he said so himself. He said on the G3 reunion he didn't want to do another one without Tori and on other ones that he wasn't stopping until he won. If he had won $100,000 on Duel 2, I highly doubt he'd have done the next one knowing that his wife wasn't there and he had already won, the two things that would stop him from appearing.

Pretty sure he said he wouldnt come back without tori on the ruins reunion after the fight with darrell. Otherwise why would he have done the ruins? And a lot of people have said they would retire and have come back either 1 or 2 seasons later, and I could see brad being one of those people. The cast of the challenge is like boxers or Brett favre, there never retired. I guarantee brad comes back for another one.

I just said he did The Ruins because he still wanted to win one. If he won The Ruins, he wouldn't have done Cutthroat.

[QUOTE=Nightwolf;317428]I just said he did The Ruins because he still wanted to win one. If he won The Ruins, he wouldn't have done Cutthroat.[/QUOTE] Never rule anyone out from coming back Brad isn't likely to return but many have said they were done but they can't help themselves. It's a nice vacation, possibility of money and an opportunity to escape life. Brad likely won't be back soon but maybe in a few years when his kid is older. It may be a sober Brad but I think he'll be back eventually--if not, oh well...not a big deal. And I think he would have done Cutthroat even if he won the Ruins. Nice little vacation for Brad & Tori prior to having a baby.

[url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=14587][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/1550504f71f0e6444.png[/img][/url] Note: this is not retweeting challengers. This is tweeting #TheChallenge to @MTV. And not sending them one tweet with #TheChallenge 50 times; 10,000 separate tweets.

[QUOTE] tweeting #TheChallenge to @MTV[/QUOTE] How selfless of them!

[QUOTE=Bacchus;317458]How selfless of them![/QUOTE] Actually, just kidding. They don't have to tweet it to MTV. It just has to be tweeted.

18 minutes... wow, that seems like a lot. I'm guessing it'll be somewhat similar to the "directors cut" [5] minutes of Battle of the Exes we saw where not all the footage in the 18 minutes will be what is shown on the premiere episode.

Here we go again! Tweet till your fingers bleed! [URL="http://remotecontrol.mtv.com/?p=136315"][URL]http://remotecontrol.mtv.com/?p=136315[/URL][/URL] Since this time 10k is the minimum, I do believe that the producers really think this season has potential. Im veeerry curious about this challenge, because if you take the interview with TC as an evidence, this challenge could shake things up BIGTime! [URL]http://remotecontrol.mtv.com/2012/09/11/[/URL] P.S: I definetly think that Alton will be the surprise villain. Who else would be a surprise?