rwportland2 wrote:Agree with Graphik and Debut. There's a lot of potential with the new schoolers, production just has to pick them. It's the same argument we had with the mid school era aka the JEK era. Instead of using JEK and their band full of sheeps all the time, they could have changed it up and added more Hollywood people, DC people, and the other half of the NOLA2 cast. But no we were presented with that trash in arguably the worst era in Challenge history.
Like I'm one of THE biggest Old-School advocates on this site but even I know that clearly they're going to need to switch it up at some point. RW v.s. AYTO won't hurt at this point; the season after they can do Old School v.s New School.
How does that even make sense? You're definitely not one of the biggest advocates when you're saying they shouldn't even be considered for a season. You're LIMITING casting which is the worst thing they can do--it's the exact reason themes seasons typically suck
I don't understand how not ******* with Old Schoolers suddenly mean casting is limiting. You act like they don't have several pools of people to choose from. Mid School-Newer RW, Bloodlines, Fresh Meat and then of Course AYTO. This show won't be hurting without the old schoolers. In fact I'd say that save for a select few they shouldn't be bothered with at all. They're not needed for this show to be good.
The second you say...only from Vegas 2 and on you're limiting casting. That's not an opinion...that's a fact. This show improved greatly in quality and ratings when they went back to including Old Schoolers last season--how quickly you've forgotten Rivals 3. I know you like Seasons 2012 but see the ratings.
The reason why Rivals 3 sucked wasn't because of old schoolers not being there though. It was because the amount of stupid pairs, Useless Castmembers(RW and AYTO), format that made it really hard to make real moves. Garbage *** twist at the end etc. Old Schoolers being there wouldn't have made a **** difference and you know it.And I see you still don't get why Seasons 2 didn't do well. It had nothing to do with the newer people. It was a sudden change to what viewers were getting at the time. It was risky as **** and didn't pay off. That doesn't mean The newer people are weak and can't carry the show. People just gotta get used to them first. Stop acting like these Old Schoolers are gods and are just totally needed for this show. They aren't and really haven't been in a long as time even if they are good characters.
You're telling me Sam, Chet, JD, Devyn, Dustin and Tris****e are good competitors? Seasons failed because there were too many rookies and unknowns on that season. Once Austin went home it was ******.
Did you not watch Shane pretty much save Invasion? And, even if you won't admit it now, you loved the Veronica-centric episode last night.
The point isn't to have half the cast of old schoolers--it is simply to include them. They just need to stop casting the same people John, Cara, Camila, Jenna & even Cory every single season. Everyone needs to be on the Aneesa plan
And also. Let's not act like people won't watch a season without Backpack. Nowadays people are just as sick of him as people on here are. Obviously he's always going to have his fans but I think this show can survive without him.
Graphik don't even try to explain to this idiot. I'm about to go ballistic, but I'm MOST DEFINITELY not going to let this ignorant fool take me there. He refuses to listen, therefore just let him talk to himself and he'll look like even more of an idiot.
HBS you are fooling no one .....
Haha I love his never ending efforts and tries so hard to come off different but fails so hard. He pm'd me asking "have you played games on here are they fun" of course his no period on the end trademark gave it away.
rwportland2 wrote:Agree with Graphik and Debut. There's a lot of potential with the new schoolers, production just has to pick them. It's the same argument we had with the mid school era aka the JEK era. Instead of using JEK and their band full of sheeps all the time, they could have changed it up and added more Hollywood people, DC people, and the other half of the NOLA2 cast. But no we were presented with that trash in arguably the worst era in Challenge history.
Like I'm one of THE biggest Old-School advocates on this site but even I know that clearly they're going to need to switch it up at some point. RW v.s. AYTO won't hurt at this point; the season after they can do Old School v.s New School.
How does that even make sense? You're definitely not one of the biggest advocates when you're saying they shouldn't even be considered for a season. You're LIMITING casting which is the worst thing they can do--it's the exact reason themes seasons typically suck
Yes the **** I am & YOU of all people should know that. RW v.s. AYTO is such a broad theme, you can't even begin to try to group that in the same category as a Rivals or an Exes. What the **** is wrong with wanting to see an evenly matched, competitive team Challenge? The cutoff can be Hollywood & they can even sprinkle a few old-schoolers in for all I care but what logical reason would there be to have a team of Darrell, Landon, CT, Alton, Wes & John against a bunch of AYTO rookies & 3-4 time AYTO vets? For you to be a fellow Old-School advocate, you're sounding like a casual right now.
YOU said Vegas 2 and after...your words...or someone like Will or Greg. That's limiting casting. If you said, a 3-5 old schoolers that wouldn't have caused an argument because then you aren't really limiting cast. You're keeping options open to create the best cast. You specifically limited it. **** just use Landon, Wes & Coral and you'd be fine. But YOU SAID only Vegas 2 and after.
I did & I still stand by that; I could extend it to Sydney/Hollywood and up though. My whole point is to have an EVEN competition that will showcase up & coming talent on both sides; it doesn't need to be a massacre like The Ruins was. Team AYTO can have all the Elite monsters they've ever cast on a team but they're not beating a whole team of Vets & few rookies simply based off the experience the Vets have had.
If The Ruins just replace Casey, Shauvon, Adam K & Nick with Aneesa, Jenn, CT & anyone other than Nick it would have been one of the best seasons because the Champions weren't overly stacked--especially the girls. ****, if Brad just doesn't agree to throw missions it wouldn't have been as bad.
You don't limit casting, which now you're backpedaling on, because you're afraid these people you said will do well can't do well.
HonestTea101 wrote:BOTS 2012 is one of the best challenges ever produced. Miss me with that bullshit
John's favorite season...ensured him of 7 seasons. Worst finalists ever. Sarah & Frank R were the only 2 GOOD competitors in that final. Well, Ashley & Zach were good. It was like having a season full of Shauvons & Katelynns
Frank S bro, i knew that BOTS 2 made JB more of a staple on the show but i havent thought how big of an effect it actually had
Yes, my bad. Frank S...correct.
Yeah, Seasons is why John hasn't missed one since.
And also. Let's not act like people won't watch a season without Backpack. Nowadays people are just as sick of him as people on here are. Obviously he's always going to have his fans but I think this show can survive without him.
I'd love to see a season without John. And Camila, Cara, Jenna, Cory and even CT but that's not realistic. Maybe we'll get a break from him on S31...let's hope.
Just like Old v.s. New during the Seasons 2/Rivals 2 time period, it's clearly time for RW v.s. AYTO to officially roll out the return of team Challenges but nooooo........Bloodlines 2 is clearly what everyone wants!
rwportland2 wrote:Agree with Graphik and Debut. There's a lot of potential with the new schoolers, production just has to pick them. It's the same argument we had with the mid school era aka the JEK era. Instead of using JEK and their band full of sheeps all the time, they could have changed it up and added more Hollywood people, DC people, and the other half of the NOLA2 cast. But no we were presented with that trash in arguably the worst era in Challenge history.
Like I'm one of THE biggest Old-School advocates on this site but even I know that clearly they're going to need to switch it up at some point. RW v.s. AYTO won't hurt at this point; the season after they can do Old School v.s New School.
How does that even make sense? You're definitely not one of the biggest advocates when you're saying they shouldn't even be considered for a season. You're LIMITING casting which is the worst thing they can do--it's the exact reason themes seasons typically suck
I don't understand how not ******* with Old Schoolers suddenly mean casting is limiting. You act like they don't have several pools of people to choose from. Mid School-Newer RW, Bloodlines, Fresh Meat and then of Course AYTO. This show won't be hurting without the old schoolers. In fact I'd say that save for a select few they shouldn't be bothered with at all. They're not needed for this show to be good.
The second you say...only from Vegas 2 and on you're limiting casting. That's not an opinion...that's a fact. This show improved greatly in quality and ratings when they went back to including Old Schoolers last season--how quickly you've forgotten Rivals 3. I know you like Seasons 2012 but see the ratings.
The reason why Rivals 3 sucked wasn't because of old schoolers not being there though. It was because the amount of stupid pairs, Useless Castmembers(RW and AYTO), format that made it really hard to make real moves. Garbage *** twist at the end etc. Old Schoolers being there wouldn't have made a **** difference and you know it.And I see you still don't get why Seasons 2 didn't do well. It had nothing to do with the newer people. It was a sudden change to what viewers were getting at the time. It was risky as **** and didn't pay off. That doesn't mean The newer people are weak and can't carry the show. People just gotta get used to them first. Stop acting like these Old Schoolers are gods and are just totally needed for this show. They aren't and really haven't been in a long as time even if they are good characters.
You're telling me Sam, Chet, JD, Devyn, Dustin and Tris****e are good competitors? Seasons failed because there were too many rookies and unknowns on that season. Once Austin went home it was ********* you not watch Shane pretty much save Invasion? And, even if you won't admit it now, you loved the Veronica-centric episode last night.The point isn't to have half the cast of old schoolers--it is simply to include them. They just need to stop casting the same people John, Cara, Camila, Jenna & even Cory every single season. Everyone needs to be on the Aneesa plan
1. I am not saying that any of them are great competitiors(athough I will say that Chet and Dustin are decent). I am saying the audience didn't ******* know them all that well. THAT'S why it failed. Whether their competitors or not is irrelevant. Stop looking at only competition.
2. I'm sorry but Shane did NOT save Invasion. I'll admit he was a **** good character but that season would've been just as good without him. Here you go again putting the old schoolers on a pedestal and being bias as ****. And last nights episode wasn't Veronica Centric. Yes she got some screentime but it wasn't just about her.
3. There's no reason to include them now with the pool they have. This show needs to get back to having different casts each season. Keep returning players but cast them Aneesa style. That's it. You don't need old schoolers for that. In this day and age they're irrelevant.
rwportland2 wrote:Agree with Graphik and Debut. There's a lot of potential with the new schoolers, production just has to pick them. It's the same argument we had with the mid school era aka the JEK era. Instead of using JEK and their band full of sheeps all the time, they could have changed it up and added more Hollywood people, DC people, and the other half of the NOLA2 cast. But no we were presented with that trash in arguably the worst era in Challenge history.
Like I'm one of THE biggest Old-School advocates on this site but even I know that clearly they're going to need to switch it up at some point. RW v.s. AYTO won't hurt at this point; the season after they can do Old School v.s New School.
How does that even make sense? You're definitely not one of the biggest advocates when you're saying they shouldn't even be considered for a season. You're LIMITING casting which is the worst thing they can do--it's the exact reason themes seasons typically suck
Yes the **** I am & YOU of all people should know that. RW v.s. AYTO is such a broad theme, you can't even begin to try to group that in the same category as a Rivals or an Exes. What the **** is wrong with wanting to see an evenly matched, competitive team Challenge? The cutoff can be Hollywood & they can even sprinkle a few old-schoolers in for all I care but what logical reason would there be to have a team of Darrell, Landon, CT, Alton, Wes & John against a bunch of AYTO rookies & 3-4 time AYTO vets? For you to be a fellow Old-School advocate, you're sounding like a casual right now.
YOU said Vegas 2 and after...your words...or someone like Will or Greg. That's limiting casting. If you said, a 3-5 old schoolers that wouldn't have caused an argument because then you aren't really limiting cast. You're keeping options open to create the best cast. You specifically limited it. **** just use Landon, Wes & Coral and you'd be fine. But YOU SAID only Vegas 2 and after.
I did & I still stand by that; I could extend it to Sydney/Hollywood and up though. My whole point is to have an EVEN competition that will showcase up & coming talent on both sides; it doesn't need to be a massacre like The Ruins was. Team AYTO can have all the Elite monsters they've ever cast on a team but they're not beating a whole team of Vets & few rookies simply based off the experience the Vets have had.
If The Ruins just replace Casey, Shauvon, Adam K & Nick with Aneesa, Jenn, CT & anyone other than Nick it would have been one of the best seasons because the Champions weren't overly stacked--especially the girls. ****, if Brad just doesn't agree to throw missions it wouldn't have been as bad.You don't limit casting, which now you're backpedaling on, because you're afraid these people you said will do well can't do well.
The Ruins could've done a whole lot of shit but they didn't, which is why we got the season that we got. If they do RW v.s. AYTO justice right out of the gate it won't have that problem.
Backpedaling on what lmaooooo I mean, I guess we can throw Syrus or somebody on there but for what? Why have him, Wes, Landon & Coral on there with a bunch of folks they don't know? Coral is not & never will be a Veronica; she speaks her mind with no restrictions which will definitely get her into trouble (on top of that she's not in the shape she was once in also like V) & Wes is likely going to be a target like he was on Seasons 2. Landon would be fine but that's a moot point b/c he's probably not coming back for a regular season regardless.
Just like Old v.s. New during the Seasons 2/Rivals 2 time period, it's clearly time for RW v.s. AYTO to officially roll out the return of team Challenges but nooooo........Bloodlines 2 is clearly what everyone wants!
I'd rather see RW vs AYTO than ******* Bloodlines 2. I know that much.
And I was against that format at one point. But I feel like they've gotten better with AYTO casting and as a result they're serving a purpose on the show.(Although there's still are some hiccups though. I don't know why they decided to bring Brianna's useless *** on).
I'd rather see RW vs AYTO than ******* Bloodlines 2. I know that much. And I was against that format at one point. But I feel like they've gotten better with AYTO casting and as a result they're serving a purpose on the show.(Although there's still are some hiccups though. I don't know why they decided to bring Brianna's useless *** on).
Agree 100%. Except for Briana, I think she has potential. They could get a pretty great AYTO team if they tried.
My main point to drive it home is there's TOO much they can be doing with this show to be doing a Bloodlines 2 and they gotta start trying shit. That playing safe shit should've went out the window after Invasion.
rwportland2 wrote:Agree with Graphik and Debut. There's a lot of potential with the new schoolers, production just has to pick them. It's the same argument we had with the mid school era aka the JEK era. Instead of using JEK and their band full of sheeps all the time, they could have changed it up and added more Hollywood people, DC people, and the other half of the NOLA2 cast. But no we were presented with that trash in arguably the worst era in Challenge history.
Like I'm one of THE biggest Old-School advocates on this site but even I know that clearly they're going to need to switch it up at some point. RW v.s. AYTO won't hurt at this point; the season after they can do Old School v.s New School.
How does that even make sense? You're definitely not one of the biggest advocates when you're saying they shouldn't even be considered for a season. You're LIMITING casting which is the worst thing they can do--it's the exact reason themes seasons typically suck
I don't understand how not ******* with Old Schoolers suddenly mean casting is limiting. You act like they don't have several pools of people to choose from. Mid School-Newer RW, Bloodlines, Fresh Meat and then of Course AYTO. This show won't be hurting without the old schoolers. In fact I'd say that save for a select few they shouldn't be bothered with at all. They're not needed for this show to be good.
The second you say...only from Vegas 2 and on you're limiting casting. That's not an opinion...that's a fact. This show improved greatly in quality and ratings when they went back to including Old Schoolers last season--how quickly you've forgotten Rivals 3. I know you like Seasons 2012 but see the ratings.
The reason why Rivals 3 sucked wasn't because of old schoolers not being there though. It was because the amount of stupid pairs, Useless Castmembers(RW and AYTO), format that made it really hard to make real moves. Garbage *** twist at the end etc. Old Schoolers being there wouldn't have made a **** difference and you know it.And I see you still don't get why Seasons 2 didn't do well. It had nothing to do with the newer people. It was a sudden change to what viewers were getting at the time. It was risky as **** and didn't pay off. That doesn't mean The newer people are weak and can't carry the show. People just gotta get used to them first. Stop acting like these Old Schoolers are gods and are just totally needed for this show. They aren't and really haven't been in a long as time even if they are good characters.
You're telling me Sam, Chet, JD, Devyn, Dustin and Tris****e are good competitors? Seasons failed because there were too many rookies and unknowns on that season. Once Austin went home it was ********* you not watch Shane pretty much save Invasion? And, even if you won't admit it now, you loved the Veronica-centric episode last night.The point isn't to have half the cast of old schoolers--it is simply to include them. They just need to stop casting the same people John, Cara, Camila, Jenna & even Cory every single season. Everyone needs to be on the Aneesa plan
1. I am not saying that any of them are great competitiors(athough I will say that Chet and Dustin are decent). I am saying the audience didn't ******* know them all that well. THAT'S why it failed. Whether their competitors or not is irrelevant. Stop looking at only competition.2. I'm sorry but Shane did NOT save Invasion. I'll admit he was a **** good character but that season would've been just as good without him. Here you go again putting the old schoolers on a pedestal and being bias as ****. And last nights episode wasn't Veronica Centric. Yes she got some screentime but it wasn't just about her. 3. There's no reason to include them now with the pool they have. This show needs to get back to having different casts each season. Keep returning players but cast them Aneesa style. That's it. You don't need old schoolers for that. In this day and age they're irrelevant.
When did Dustin go home on every challenge after Seasons? He sucks
Shane carried Invasion. Veronica was the center of last night's episode. She was the focus along with Tori/Derrick H. And you loved the attention she got.
How are the old schoolers irrelevant? Even Tris****e wasn't irrelevant. Everyone that has come back has added to the show. Darrell, Veronica, Tris****e, Shane...Alton to a lesser extent...and I'm sure Derrick K will based on the previews. Why not CONSIDER them when casting. I want to see new people too but Cara, Camila, John, Jenna, CT, Jenna, Nelson, etc all can sit out some seasons. And no one is saying to cast Veronica, Darrell, Shane, etc every season. I think Shane not doing this was great--although we got the other Shane which sucks
My main point to drive it home is there's TOO much they can be doing with this show to be doing a Bloodlines 2 and they gotta start trying shit. That playing safe shit should've went out the window after Invasion.
Exactly. There's a ton they can do, and Bloodlines 2 isn't the one. I can understand if there's a desire to bring in new castmembers, but they're going to re-use 3-4 Bloodlines, when they still have recent Real World castmembers who they can call, people from AYTO, and even Bloodliners from the first season. And now that there's more old school castmembers wanting to return? They don't need Bloodlines 2 and I hate the idea.
Graphik wrote:Just like Old v.s. New during the Seasons 2/Rivals 2 time period, it's clearly time for RW v.s. AYTO to officially roll out the return of team Challenges but nooooo........Bloodlines 2 is clearly what everyone wants!
What I also want to know is why isn't the cast more vocal about stuff they would like to see on the show, themes they would like to participate in, etc. like what the **** is everybody thinking about lmaooooo there wouldn't even BE a show without any of them.
My main point to drive it home is there's TOO much they can be doing with this show to be doing a Bloodlines 2 and they gotta start trying shit. That playing safe shit should've went out the window after Invasion.
Agree 100% Especially with the mini-Challenges they're doing now. They could easily be doing so much with that.
rwportland2 wrote:Agree with Graphik and Debut. There's a lot of potential with the new schoolers, production just has to pick them. It's the same argument we had with the mid school era aka the JEK era. Instead of using JEK and their band full of sheeps all the time, they could have changed it up and added more Hollywood people, DC people, and the other half of the NOLA2 cast. But no we were presented with that trash in arguably the worst era in Challenge history.
Like I'm one of THE biggest Old-School advocates on this site but even I know that clearly they're going to need to switch it up at some point. RW v.s. AYTO won't hurt at this point; the season after they can do Old School v.s New School.
How does that even make sense? You're definitely not one of the biggest advocates when you're saying they shouldn't even be considered for a season. You're LIMITING casting which is the worst thing they can do--it's the exact reason themes seasons typically suck
I don't understand how not ******* with Old Schoolers suddenly mean casting is limiting. You act like they don't have several pools of people to choose from. Mid School-Newer RW, Bloodlines, Fresh Meat and then of Course AYTO. This show won't be hurting without the old schoolers. In fact I'd say that save for a select few they shouldn't be bothered with at all. They're not needed for this show to be good.
The second you say...only from Vegas 2 and on you're limiting casting. That's not an opinion...that's a fact. This show improved greatly in quality and ratings when they went back to including Old Schoolers last season--how quickly you've forgotten Rivals 3. I know you like Seasons 2012 but see the ratings.
The reason why Rivals 3 sucked wasn't because of old schoolers not being there though. It was because the amount of stupid pairs, Useless Castmembers(RW and AYTO), format that made it really hard to make real moves. Garbage *** twist at the end etc. Old Schoolers being there wouldn't have made a **** difference and you know it.And I see you still don't get why Seasons 2 didn't do well. It had nothing to do with the newer people. It was a sudden change to what viewers were getting at the time. It was risky as **** and didn't pay off. That doesn't mean The newer people are weak and can't carry the show. People just gotta get used to them first. Stop acting like these Old Schoolers are gods and are just totally needed for this show. They aren't and really haven't been in a long as time even if they are good characters.
You're telling me Sam, Chet, JD, Devyn, Dustin and Tris****e are good competitors? Seasons failed because there were too many rookies and unknowns on that season. Once Austin went home it was ********* you not watch Shane pretty much save Invasion? And, even if you won't admit it now, you loved the Veronica-centric episode last night.The point isn't to have half the cast of old schoolers--it is simply to include them. They just need to stop casting the same people John, Cara, Camila, Jenna & even Cory every single season. Everyone needs to be on the Aneesa plan
1. I am not saying that any of them are great competitiors(athough I will say that Chet and Dustin are decent). I am saying the audience didn't ******* know them all that well. THAT'S why it failed. Whether their competitors or not is irrelevant. Stop looking at only competition.2. I'm sorry but Shane did NOT save Invasion. I'll admit he was a **** good character but that season would've been just as good without him. Here you go again putting the old schoolers on a pedestal and being bias as ****. And last nights episode wasn't Veronica Centric. Yes she got some screentime but it wasn't just about her. 3. There's no reason to include them now with the pool they have. This show needs to get back to having different casts each season. Keep returning players but cast them Aneesa style. That's it. You don't need old schoolers for that. In this day and age they're irrelevant.
When did Dustin go home on every challenge after Seasons? He sucksShane carried Invasion. Veronica was the center of last night's episode. She was the focus along with Tori/Derrick H. And you loved the attention she got.How are the old schoolers irrelevant? Even Tris****e wasn't irrelevant. Everyone that has come back has added to the show. Darrell, Veronica, Tris****e, Shane...Alton to a lesser extent...and I'm sure Derrick K will based on the previews. Why not CONSIDER them when casting. I want to see new people too but Cara, Camila, John, Jenna, CT, Jenna, Nelson, etc all can sit out some seasons. And no one is saying to cast Veronica, Darrell, Shane, etc every season. I think Shane not doing this was great--although we got the other Shane which sucks
To be fair to Dustin he's had a bit of bad luck though. I don't think he's horrible at all. Not to say that he's a beast of anything though. He just has merit.
Now I'll admit Veronica holding back Brittany was cool though but only because she's never showed that type of aggression in the past but that's as far as I cared about her. I was more interested in wether Cory would come back for elimination and the mission as well as it was awesome. Remember. I've said before that I'm not a fan of Veronica and I'm still not. And No. Shane did NOT carry invasion. Noone did. It was a group ******* effort.
I didn't say they weren't entertaining or that they didn't add to the show. When I said Irrelevant I meant that they're not needed for this show. It's 2017. New People are here and they should be the foucs. Not people who had their shine so long ago.
I think we all agree that Bloodlines is a horrible idea..
I'll accept it if it brings back people who were off the beaten path. I don't know if the Tina & Jo rumors are a joke or not but if it takes a messy *** format to bring them back then I will sign on the dotted line.
Old Schoolers shouldn't be taking focus away from the New kids if they really can carry this show. Everyone that has ever been on The Real World and Road Rules should be CONSIDERED and those that can add to show, new or old, should be cast. I hate AYTO but Tori adds to the show so I'll enjoy finally watching a new girl perform well against the likes of Cara & Camila. ****, Hunter's fine with me because he's at least there to compete and competes well. I have no idea why anyone would be invested in Cory's elimination against Derrick H....does anyone believe either can do well this season? If so, kudos to you. Keep hope alive. Cory, even if he makes a final, isn't capable of winning.
You're telling me Sam, Chet, JD, Devyn, Dustin and Tris****e are good competitors? Seasons failed because there were too many rookies and unknowns on that season. Once Austin went home it was ******.
Did you not watch Shane pretty much save Invasion? And, even if you won't admit it now, you loved the Veronica-centric episode last night.
The point isn't to have half the cast of old schoolers--it is simply to include them. They just need to stop casting the same people John, Cara, Camila, Jenna & even Cory every single season. Everyone needs to be on the Aneesa plan
And also. Let's not act like people won't watch a season without Backpack. Nowadays people are just as sick of him as people on here are. Obviously he's always going to have his fans but I think this show can survive without him.
John was supposed to be on BOTS2 though, they just couldn't find a second girl for that Key West team.
Season would have been better for sure. Tyler would have ****** Zach up
Haha I love his never ending efforts and tries so hard to come off different but fails so hard. He pm'd me asking "have you played games on here are they fun" of course his no period on the end trademark gave it away.
If The Ruins just replace Casey, Shauvon, Adam K & Nick with Aneesa, Jenn, CT & anyone other than Nick it would have been one of the best seasons because the Champions weren't overly stacked--especially the girls. ****, if Brad just doesn't agree to throw missions it wouldn't have been as bad.
You don't limit casting, which now you're backpedaling on, because you're afraid these people you said will do well can't do well.
Yes, my bad. Frank S...correct.
Yeah, Seasons is why John hasn't missed one since.
I'd love to see a season without John. And Camila, Cara, Jenna, Cory and even CT but that's not realistic. Maybe we'll get a break from him on S31...let's hope.
No its not
1. I am not saying that any of them are great competitiors(athough I will say that Chet and Dustin are decent). I am saying the audience didn't ******* know them all that well. THAT'S why it failed. Whether their competitors or not is irrelevant. Stop looking at only competition.
2. I'm sorry but Shane did NOT save Invasion. I'll admit he was a **** good character but that season would've been just as good without him. Here you go again putting the old schoolers on a pedestal and being bias as ****. And last nights episode wasn't Veronica Centric. Yes she got some screentime but it wasn't just about her.
3. There's no reason to include them now with the pool they have. This show needs to get back to having different casts each season. Keep returning players but cast them Aneesa style. That's it. You don't need old schoolers for that. In this day and age they're irrelevant.
The Ruins could've done a whole lot of shit but they didn't, which is why we got the season that we got. If they do RW v.s. AYTO justice right out of the gate it won't have that problem.
Backpedaling on what lmaooooo I mean, I guess we can throw Syrus or somebody on there but for what? Why have him, Wes, Landon & Coral on there with a bunch of folks they don't know? Coral is not & never will be a Veronica; she speaks her mind with no restrictions which will definitely get her into trouble (on top of that she's not in the shape she was once in also like V) & Wes is likely going to be a target like he was on Seasons 2. Landon would be fine but that's a moot point b/c he's probably not coming back for a regular season regardless.
Who asked you! Take a nap!
i would stan the **** out of an emily laurel x's team! they would be UNSTOPPABLE
I'd rather see RW vs AYTO than ******* Bloodlines 2. I know that much.
And I was against that format at one point. But I feel like they've gotten better with AYTO casting and as a result they're serving a purpose on the show.(Although there's still are some hiccups though. I don't know why they decided to bring Brianna's useless *** on).
Agree 100%. Except for Briana, I think she has potential. They could get a pretty great AYTO team if they tried.
Bloodline 2 is a ******* awful idea.
My main point to drive it home is there's TOO much they can be doing with this show to be doing a Bloodlines 2 and they gotta start trying shit. That playing safe shit should've went out the window after Invasion.
When did Dustin go home on every challenge after Seasons? He sucks
Shane carried Invasion. Veronica was the center of last night's episode. She was the focus along with Tori/Derrick H. And you loved the attention she got.
How are the old schoolers irrelevant? Even Tris****e wasn't irrelevant. Everyone that has come back has added to the show. Darrell, Veronica, Tris****e, Shane...Alton to a lesser extent...and I'm sure Derrick K will based on the previews. Why not CONSIDER them when casting. I want to see new people too but Cara, Camila, John, Jenna, CT, Jenna, Nelson, etc all can sit out some seasons. And no one is saying to cast Veronica, Darrell, Shane, etc every season. I think Shane not doing this was great--although we got the other Shane which sucks
Exactly. There's a ton they can do, and Bloodlines 2 isn't the one. I can understand if there's a desire to bring in new castmembers, but they're going to re-use 3-4 Bloodlines, when they still have recent Real World castmembers who they can call, people from AYTO, and even Bloodliners from the first season. And now that there's more old school castmembers wanting to return? They don't need Bloodlines 2 and I hate the idea.
I think we all agree that Bloodlines is a horrible idea..
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What I also want to know is why isn't the cast more vocal about stuff they would like to see on the show, themes they would like to participate in, etc. like what the **** is everybody thinking about lmaooooo there wouldn't even BE a show without any of them.
Oh **** could def see a tyler frank storyline then.
Agree 100% Especially with the mini-Challenges they're doing now. They could easily be doing so much with that.
To be fair to Dustin he's had a bit of bad luck though. I don't think he's horrible at all. Not to say that he's a beast of anything though. He just has merit.
Now I'll admit Veronica holding back Brittany was cool though but only because she's never showed that type of aggression in the past but that's as far as I cared about her. I was more interested in wether Cory would come back for elimination and the mission as well as it was awesome. Remember. I've said before that I'm not a fan of Veronica and I'm still not. And No. Shane did NOT carry invasion. Noone did. It was a group ******* effort.
I didn't say they weren't entertaining or that they didn't add to the show. When I said Irrelevant I meant that they're not needed for this show. It's 2017. New People are here and they should be the foucs. Not people who had their shine so long ago.
If there is a bloodlines 2 I'm not watching
Would love to see Madison and Aiiiya but not on a freaking bloodlines.
Ayiiia <3.
I said the same thing about not getting spoilers for S30 and it lasted 2 days
I'll accept it if it brings back people who were off the beaten path. I don't know if the Tina & Jo rumors are a joke or not but if it takes a messy *** format to bring them back then I will sign on the dotted line.
Old Schoolers shouldn't be taking focus away from the New kids if they really can carry this show. Everyone that has ever been on The Real World and Road Rules should be CONSIDERED and those that can add to show, new or old, should be cast. I hate AYTO but Tori adds to the show so I'll enjoy finally watching a new girl perform well against the likes of Cara & Camila. ****, Hunter's fine with me because he's at least there to compete and competes well. I have no idea why anyone would be invested in Cory's elimination against Derrick H....does anyone believe either can do well this season? If so, kudos to you. Keep hope alive. Cory, even if he makes a final, isn't capable of winning.
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