[QUOTE=JayTee;438482]Still better than anything Kimberly, KellyAnne and Sarah have ever done.[/QUOTE]
She is better than Kim, but nowhere near Sarah and Kellyanne, and I'm saying that as someone that thinks both Kellyanne and Sarah are a little overrated on this site.
[QUOTE=nevidcm;438489]She is better than Kim, but nowhere near Sarah and Kellyanne, and I'm saying that as someone that thinks both Kellyanne and Sarah are a little overrated on this site.[/QUOTE]
KellyAnne hasn't even beaten anyone that special either though. Don't be biased towards Susie just because all she does is win.
[QUOTE=JayTee;438496]KellyAnne hasn't even beaten anyone that special either though. Don't be biased towards Susie just because all she does is win.[/QUOTE]
What about Rachel?
[QUOTE=nevidcm;438501]What about Rachel?[/QUOTE]
If you want to count that mission as an elimination then okay. Just sit your butt on a wooden pole for an hour and a half and all of a sudden you're a beast.
[QUOTE=JayTee;438510]If you want to count that mission as an elimination then okay. Just sit your butt on a wooden pole for an hour and a half and all of a sudden you're a beast.[/QUOTE]
No matter what the mission was, she beat Rachel (which people here consider to be an elite player) fair and square.
KellyAnne may have more potential than Susie nowadays, but Susie has still done a lot more than both KA and Sarah on these Challenges and has never went home.
[QUOTE=JayTee;438521]KellyAnne may have more potential than Susie nowadays, but Susie has still done a lot more than both KA and Sarah on these Challenges and has never went home.[/QUOTE]
I agree though that we need to see more of Kellyanne to judge her since she only did two challenges, and one of them wasn't a challenge per se
Devyn also has never been eliminated, doesn't mean she is good.
Not to discredit Susie, but wasn't she only on part of Extreme Challenge (after Ayanna left) and generally considered to be pretty terrible by her team? I honestly don't remember but vaguely remember her being a crybaby (which was still the case on G2.). IMO, it wasn't until Inferno 3 that Susie really showed anything at all. I remember when Inferno 3 started I was kind of taken aback by how Susie was acting because it was so different from what we had seen before.
[QUOTE=mph922;438557]Not to discredit Susie, but wasn't she only on part of Extreme Challenge (after Ayanna left) and generally considered to be pretty terrible by her team? I honestly don't remember but vaguely remember her being a crybaby (which was still the case on G2.). IMO, it wasn't until Inferno 3 that Susie really showed anything at all. I remember when Inferno 3 started I was kind of taken aback by how Susie was acting because it was so different from what we had seen before.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Susie was actually pretty awful on Extreme Challenge.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;438369]à la LaToya vs Jemmye[/QUOTE]
No doubt. I never watch St. Thomas, or any season before and after Syndey, so I had no idea what to expect from LaToya. I liked it. Same with Cara vs Nia, although that had very little "action".
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438450]And Kina wouldn't have been allowed to make that call.
Yes, she did
Wrong
Yes, he did.[/QUOTE]
Kina made all of the calls as to who her opponents were, so yes, she would have made that call.
Nope.
You are wrong.
You are wrong, again.
[QUOTE=JayTee;438468]People are such idiots on this board. I bet the same people that say Susie sucks would say that Kimberly is good.
smh. we need more members that have an iq above 70.[/QUOTE]
Anyone with an IQ above 70 will realize that Susie's abilities, both as a competitor and as a strategist, are highly overrated. Her elimination record amounts to her beating Rachel in an elimination round that production rigged for Susie to win; beating Casey, one of the worst competitors of all time; and beating Kim and Brianna, 2 rookies who are also mediocre competitors.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438441]Susie isn't afraid of going into an elimination round--see her record.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=kvm1977;438461]Susie's not stupid...she wasn't going to go against KellyAnne. KellyAnne was the only girl that really could have beat her.[/QUOTE]
Way to contradict yourself, genius.
[QUOTE=toenails;438643]Anyone with an IQ above 70 will realize that Susie's abilities, both as a competitor and as a strategist, are highly overrated. Her elimination record amounts to her beating Rachel in an elimination round that production rigged for Susie to win; beating Casey, one of the worst competitors of all time; and beating Kim and Brianna, 2 rookies who are also mediocre competitors.[/QUOTE]
Jenn not Rachel. Kim isn't bad at all smh
[QUOTE=Challenge 17;438645]Jenn not Rachel. Kim isn't bad at all smh[/QUOTE]
My mistake. Kim gave a good fight against Susie, but that's not saying much...
[QUOTE=JayTee;438447]Kim is not smaller than Susie lol Kim is taller and most likely weighs more since they're both real skinny.
Susie is a beast. Get over it.[/QUOTE]
Hahahaha a beast? Great player, but she is at best a decent competitor.
[QUOTE=JayTee;438482]Still better than anything Kimberly, KellyAnne and Sarah have ever done.[/QUOTE]
KA and Sarah are both far better competitors than Susie.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;438670]KA and Sarah are both far better competitors than Susie.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, Kellyanne on one challenge (I don't really count The Island as one) show a lot more than Susie in four challenges, hence why everyone was so afraid to face her in an elimination, including Susie.
[QUOTE=nevidcm;438676]Exactly, Kellyanne on one challenge (I don't really count The Island as one) show a lot more than Susie in four challenges, hence why everyone was so afraid to face her in an elimination, including Susie.[/QUOTE]
KellyAnne is overrated, more so than Susie.
[QUOTE=LurkerNoMore;438682]KellyAnne is overrated, more so than Susie.[/QUOTE]
She showed a lot in just one challenge and even that faceoff on the Island where she beat Rachel of all people. The fact that the females that season were very afraid of her that season says it all.
[QUOTE=nevidcm;438676]Exactly, Kellyanne on one challenge (I don't really count The Island as one) show a lot more than Susie in four challenges, hence why everyone was so afraid to face her in an elimination, including Susie.[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between being scared and playing the pawns. Susie is one of the few females who is a master at using these pawns (KellyAnne, Kimberly, Sarah) in whatever way she chooses. Just like how Kenny controls the male pawns. Why should a King and Queen have to get their hands dirty on **** if they don't want to?
[QUOTE=JayTee;438771]There's a difference between being scared and playing the pawns. Susie is one of the few females who is a master at using these pawns (KellyAnne, Kimberly, Sarah) in whatever way she chooses. Just like how Kenny controls the male pawns. Why should a King and Queen have to get their hands dirty on **** if they don't want to?[/QUOTE]
And because they know they'd be in trouble? Put either in an elimination round with someone good and see what happens. They are both decent competitors, at best.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;438776]And because they know they'd be in trouble? Put either in an elimination round with someone good and see what happens. They are both decent competitors, at best.[/QUOTE]
The Challenge isn't just about your physical attributes though. You have to take someone's mental state and political skills into play when it comes to being an overall great challenger.
[QUOTE=JayTee;438771]There's a difference between being scared and playing the pawns. Susie is one of the few females who is a master at using these pawns (KellyAnne, Kimberly, Sarah) in whatever way she chooses. Just like how Kenny controls the male pawns. Why should a King and Queen have to get their hands dirty on **** if they don't want to?[/QUOTE]
If she wasn't afraid of Kellyanne, then why did she threaten to mess the final for the champions if she didn't have it her way and face Casey. She wouldn't have done that if she felt confortable going against Kellyanne. I know facing Casey is an automatic win, but it was obvious that she was scared about facing either Sarah or Kellyanne in an elimination
[QUOTE=nevidcm;438781]If she wasn't afraid of Kellyanne, then why did she threaten to mess the final for the champions if she didn't have it her way and face Casey. She wouldn't have done that if she felt confortable going against Kellyanne. I know facing Casey is an automatic win, but she was scared of both Sarah and Kellyanne[/QUOTE]
You're acting as if someone would not have even an ounce of intimidation going into an elimination against someone good. The Ruins didn't just have physical eliminations so I'm sure that if Susie was even a little bit afraid then Sarah and KA were too since it was the last elimination before the final. We can't just be biased towards Susie. Sarah could have been ****ting bricks too for all we know.
[QUOTE=JayTee;438780]The Challenge isn't just about your physical attributes though. You have to take someone's mental state and political skills into play when it comes to being an overall great challenger.[/QUOTE]
That's why I have always said being the best competitor and player are different.
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