The Challenge: Battle of the Exes - What's Love Got to Do With It?

I felt bad for Mandi when Free Willy/Vinny was ripping into her (and ripping off her clothes). What a *******. He even made me feel bad for Sarah. SARAH!!!!!!

That was a fantastic episode. Needs more Robin/Rachel/Anessa in the future though. I love, LOVE eliminations like that. 1 on 1, see what ya got. Those and the more interesting puzzles (which they have really gone away from) are fun. Seeing Leroy and Wes go to war was why I watch these shows. I loved Jasmine of Rivals but she is really bothering me now. The way she treats Tyrie is BS. He doesn't d3eserve that and it is really starting to irk me. He hasn't done anything to her yet she keeps going off, acting like he's sniffing her underwear or something. Get over yourself and work with your partner. How many times you have to to tell the world you don't like him.

[QUOTE=RW561015;295452]That "top" (which looks more like two flaps of material over her chest & tucked into her skirt & somehow connected behind her neck) was so low and visible a bra would not have worked with it (assuming she would not want the bra visible). Having said that, though, I am not by any means whatsoever even remotely implying Vinny was in the right. It was an absolutely foolish and slimy move by him. Definitely deserved to be sent home.[/QUOTE] Mandi would of probably taken her top off later that night anyway all Vinny had to do was wait about an hour

Ok about tonight's episode, 1) Wes is in love, talking about a wife, Jesus calm down, that guy falls in love with everything, he was "in love" with Johanna after meeting her for 5 seconds :/ 2) Vinny is a *******, like did he really have to do that at the club? Even after he won, at first I'm like ok they were just joking and it got out of hand but then he goes and calls Mandi ugly, werent they supposed to be friends? I thought she would go along with it but she was clearly pissed so he should have at least apologized. What a ******. And the fact that he asked Mark if he thinks thye would let him stay means they told them not to do stuff like that. And he shouldnt be going around calling people ugly when he came looking like a walrus, Wes looks hotter than him. 3) cool elimination round, but they barely showed it! On the duel pole wrestle it was longer, and looked awkward to hold, a pole is better. Wes/Derrick were like rolling around and going nuts. And I liked Wes' weird ninja flip thing haha, he should join circe du solei ( however you spell that lol)

I do think it unfair that Sarah was sent home packing for Vinny's misconduct, but dear God, all that overreaction crying was annoying. Yah the situation stinks, but******* up, don't act like someone ran over your dog. And while I'm not much of a Wes and Mandi fan, I do feel that they got sent home too soon. In what universe did Sarah find that fair? Logic (to me anyway), would dictate sending in the next couple that failed most miserably in the challenge. That would be "fair" since this is supposed to be a predominantly physical challenge. Merit should be a huge deciding factor in all these challenges, but all these fools are always caught up with playing their silly politics to do it rationally. Who is going to argue with sending in a couple that hasn't performed well? Also, on a personal note, someone please get in a fight with Johnny and send that jerk home.

[QUOTE=Calinks;295456]I loved Jasmine of Rivals but she is really bothering me now. The way she treats Tyrie is BS. He doesn't d3eserve that and it is really starting to irk me. He hasn't done anything to her yet she keeps going off, acting like he's sniffing her underwear or something. Get over yourself and work with your partner. How many times you have to to tell the world you don't like him.[/QUOTE] Same. What bugged me about that was the here she was saying she'd rather comment suicide than date him but then goes nuts when he said he wasn't interested in her "stanky booty". So it's cool if you saying you'd rather KILL YOURSELF than be with him but he can't say he's not into you. They also should've sent them home for her hitting him too but whatever. I know there's a double standard and all of that but I feel like unless it's something crazy (like Laurel/Big Easy) that girl on guy violence is cool. I remember that people were up in arms over Vinny shoving Shauvon...but she lashed him across the back beforehand. Same thing on the Jersey Shore. All of these activist groups go NUTS over MTV showing that ******* punching Snooki and made them black it out...but two seasons later Sammi punches Ronnie across the face and it's glorified because she was standing up for herself.

Wow, just heard Leroy's explanation for why Adam and Nany couldn't go on. MTV has banned him. Not BMP but MTV doesn't want him on again because he has screwed up too many times. Wow.

[QUOTE=Calinks;295463]Wow, just heard Leroy's explanation for why Adam and Nany couldn't go on. MTV has banned him. Not BMTV but MTV doesn't want him on again because he has screwed up too many times. Wow.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I explained that a while ago.

Ok How Did Vinny pull off Mandy's top? All I saw was him dancing behind her. How did I miss it?

I really think Sarah was legitimately upset. Some people seem to really, really enjoy doing these shows more than anything else and Sarah is at the top of that list. When you are on there and your main motivation is enjoying the experience rather than money/ hooking up, or whatever, then it really hurts to be sent home unfairly.

[QUOTE=pandaboo917;295466]Ok How Did Vinny pull off Mandy's top? All I saw was him dancing behind her. How did I miss it?[/QUOTE] I think he unclipped whatever was holding that thing up behind her neck (realistically it was probably a piece of scotch tape) and the two narrow strips of cloth covering her ***** fell down.

[QUOTE=Calinks;295463]Wow, just heard Leroy's explanation for why Adam and Nany couldn't go on. MTV has banned him. Not BMP but MTV doesn't want him on again because he has screwed up too many times. Wow.[/QUOTE] As molds13 has pointed out, you could have read the same thing here at vevmo many, many weeks ago. But now to the edit: Mark Long's comment that "Vinny could be going home" was recorded later. It was not "prospective in the moment." Many of you have pointed out the inconsistency in the application of rules for who goes home for what action. This episode edit was intended to show that there is "zero tolerance" for some behavior, but all veteran challenger viewers know better. TJ dour demeanor at the first meeting in the house to announce the 2nd couple to go into the elimination round was vastly different than his normal chipper self. To me, this suggests he already knew full well what had happened in the club, and that the matter was either decided (and they still needed to go through the motions to get to the day's elimination event) or was a matter under review at corporate, such things no longer being within the power of the on-site executive producer to decide. I'm very confident that BMP and MTV (or many\be it was VIACOM and the army of outside attorneys hovering over this issue like maggots on rotten meat) had a very specific purpose in mind for dumping Vinny. They were making a point that they have zero tolerance for sexual harassment. It is the logical step to follow a claim that their "investigation" found no evidence in the merits of a prior sexual harassment claim which is very much alive in the courts. Wes & Mandi: Yes, Wes said similar things about Johanna and Kelly Ann. I expect he really meant them at the time. Unfortunately, there is always a backstory that is not so appealing. For those hoping Wes will disappear from the challenges... That is very unlikely to happen given his very close personal relationship with people at the top. Responding to an earlier question about interviews: Eliminated cast are generally interviewed the next day after viewers see them leave the house. The interviews are done in a room in a hotel (or crew quarters location) where production has set up a green screen. This location is also normally the one used for cast interview days where the story editors at BMP determine what subjects/comments they need from specific cast members to flesh out the episode. The other cast member comment we see in any episode are OTFs (on-the-fly), where the field producer gets a cast member to do immediate reactions to things or provide a near real time comment on something that is ongoing. Most viewers only focus on the cast member who is speaking and the voice they hear. If you play these scenes back in slo-mo, you will occasionally see interesting stuff in the background, or notice that the cast member suddenly appears to change clothes on to immediately again appear in different clothes. ("Continuity" is not a TV practice followed by BMP; e.g., you won't find a continuity person listed in the credits.) As for Sarah also being a victim in this episode, I find myself wondering if this is not karma at work. I probably would not have minded much if there were anyone in the wings that BMP could have brought in. It was difficult enough for them to cast this season, but the new testing rules and a strict interpretation of The Game Show Act pretty much sealed Sarah's fate with no ready replacement. [And MTV would have had to weigh Sarah's fate against the cost of shutting down production until someone could be tested, results of testing known, and then flown to the DR. It's just not reasonable for producers to have a massive group under contract -- and on standby -- to step in for every cast member.]

Can't believe Wes lost, thought he would have that. Then again Leroy has this hidden power, remember how fast he climbed up the ladder in that chopper challenge last time? Vinny pulled a ******* move on Mandi, dude deserved to go home, but not Sarah. They could of flown someone out to replace Vinny overnight.

When spoilers and such come about I kick rocks because the last thing I want to hear is who wins, who goes home, etc. I have tried to be careful in the past with others shows and I still got burned. Now when I know a lot of spoiler talk is going on I piety much stop fishing for information. So I have been avoiding many discussions. Looking at my power rankings... I may have had Wes and Mandi too high. I have definitely underestimated Mandi, she has shown she has top level endurance over the last two years and she has decent strength. She's a tough out. I think Wes' biggest physical problem as of late has been his endurance/Cardio. I'm actually sad to see him go so soon as I feel like he was the most openly opposed to Johnny. Johnny is running stuff now. He and Camila are an incredible team, as much as I want to see Johnny get kicked off or be on the receiving end of some payback, I don't see it happening. His team really is that good everywhere. Leroy certainly earned his stripes tonight. Wes is hard to put away. I still think Naomi is too much of a problem in too many areas for them to succeed though. Sometimes your partner just isn't good enough. I also worry about Emily becasue Ty has been really suspect on every show. He seemed to improve a bit on Rivals however. Cara/Abrahm Anessa/Rachel Ty/Emily have gotten zero air time. With Wes gone some minutes should open up.

[QUOTE=yesitsmario;295471]Can't believe Wes lost, thought he would have that. Then again[B] Leroy has this hidden power,[/B] remember how fast he climbed up the ladder in that chopper challenge last time? Vinny pulled a ******* move on Mandi, dude deserved to go home, but not Sarah. They could of flown someone out to replace Vinny overnight.[/QUOTE] Haha, hidden power. Maybe Leroy is a Super Saiyan or a Jedi? Maybe he has the glow like Bruce [B]Leroy[/B]? :flame: [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xVoIaFJTwUk/TjW6q9h2mUI/AAAAAAAAAUI/qcechQSC0tw/s400/theglow.jpg[/IMG]

[URL="http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=12748"][IMG]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/43384f2a413859a79.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Just so the proof is as clear as it can be as to why no one replaced Vinny. I also don't think that a certain group of lawyers would appreciate Kenny replacing someone kicked off for sexual harassment.

I'm pissed that they dont show anymore online exclusives after the show, I looked forward to them last season, even though it was only 2 clips, screw the aftershow, if I wanted their opinion on the show I would go read their twitter! Oh and I think they made a mistake on tonight's episode, they went to commercials then showed a 10 second clip of Wes telling Mandi that he loves her then went back to commercials and that clip is missing when you watch the episode online. Interesting...maybe because it was also showing Wes trying to look under Mandi's skirt under the blanket as Evan said on twitter? That tweet by Evan has also been deleted very interesting indeed....

[QUOTE=Calinks;295467]I really think Sarah was legitimately upset. Some people seem to really, really enjoy doing these shows more than anything else and Sarah is at the top of that list. When you are on there and your main motivation is enjoying the experience rather than money/ hooking up, or whatever, then it really hurts to be sent home unfairly.[/QUOTE] In past Challenges Sarah said the exact opposite. The way she went ape poo poo at Shauvon for being scared of hurting her ***** thereby costing Sarah money comes to mind.

[QUOTE=Calinks;295463]Wow, just heard Leroy's explanation for why Adam and Nany couldn't go on. MTV has banned him. Not BMP but MTV doesn't want him on again because he has screwed up too many times. Wow.[/QUOTE] Where did he explain that at?

[QUOTE=jesses_girl;295484]Where did he explain that at?[/QUOTE] I think Leroy does some sort of uStream (video podcast) after the show on Wednesdays.

[QUOTE=Blue123;295478]I'm pissed that they dont show anymore online exclusives after the show, I looked forward to them last season, even though it was only 2 clips, screw the aftershow, if I wanted their opinion on the show I would go read their twitter![/QUOTE] I tweeted MTV about that hahahahaha, I really don't know what else to do (maybe call mtv crying?). The show itself has been taken up by the power couple challenge, and the dome with drama nobody wants to see. Tyrie and Jasmine? What was that? Tyrie is a horrible competitor and so is Jasmine, they're like a "filler" couple, but the whole beginning was dedicated to them. I really wanted to see the CT/Ty thing either online or on the show, and the CT incident. Lasst season they showed extended clips of CT vs Wes, and CT vs Cara Maria so idk why they won't do it now. Also after this episode I want to bring up the "Leroy good guy" thing. How does putting another girl all over you when a girl in the house obviously likes u and he obvs is attracted to her making him a good guy? At least when CT explodes he has reasons for it which I think is a lot more understandable than Leroys commitment phobe attitude. I don't think he's getting a "good edit" at all.

[QUOTE=fabulous788;295485]I think Leroy does some sort of uStream (video podcast) after the show on Wednesdays.[/QUOTE] Yea i know i was watching it and he said that "Adam got into some trouble with MTV [b]that i can't talk about[/b]" and then he just went on to another question. So that's why i was wondering if he spoke about it elsewhere.

Everyone loves Leroy, he's almost like the new Teck where it is just hard not to love him. I do wish they would show the fights instead of leaving them out though. Once people argue once you can edit the crap out of it to look like season long beef through confessionals. Ty vs CT would've been an interesting story for the season.

[QUOTE=mph922;295453]I felt bad for Mandi when Free Willy/Vinny was ripping into her (and ripping off her clothes). What a *******. He even made me feel bad for Sarah. SARAH!!!!!![/QUOTE] LMBO. Also, the tags are hilarious. :) [QUOTE=TheKorean;295488]Everyone loves Leroy, he's almost like the new Teck where it is just hard not to love him. I do wish they would show the fights instead of leaving them out though. Once people argue once you can edit the crap out of it to look like season long beef through confessionals. Ty vs CT would've been an interesting story for the season.[/QUOTE] I personally think they will show that story, but I suppose they are "saving" it for an episode that would otherwise not have any drama. I mean they cannot put all the drama into 1 episode can they? This episode was solid and legit. I enjoyed it except for Tyrie and Jasmine. They both annoy me so badly, but Jasmine annoys me more. I think she's just ashamed that she kissed him, after which Evan made a comment (on Rivals) saying Tyrie smells like bacon. So she's probably just making up this whole story about him being in love with her to make herself look a little better (as though she felt bad for him and kissed him). She's annoying, and he is too. Vinny definitely deserved to be sent home. Felt bad for Sarah, but that's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. It would seem like Sarah has bad luck in these things, but if she keeps trying, she might succeed, she is a decent competitor. Happy to have seen Leroy kicked Wes' butt. Naomi is worse than I thought she was though.... if she couldn't even beat Mandi although she had a weight advantage. First 2 episodes were definitely a good start to the season.... better than they have had in a while IMO.

Episode two kicked ***! Better mission, elimination round, and especially drama! Hopefully the trend continues lol. I was surprised to see Vinny and Sarah win, but not so much on who finished last. Leroy is my dog, but sadly [strike]Noami[/strike] Naomi will prevent him from making another final challenge. I expected her to easily beat Mandi in X Battle, but man did she let down. Thankfully RoyLee finished the job and took out a good elimination competitor in Wes.

[QUOTE=Klounsnax2.0;295382]I think she knows, she just embraces that. And this is the reason I would let her sleep in my bed every night! Her and Cara Maria. I'd be all over that...[/QUOTE] He had to stop sleeping with her, because it just made her more possessive. She would start fights in the club with girls that Leroy would be dancing with. Leroy has said that Naomi is disrespectful to girls who go to see him at club events, not even letting some girls get a picture with him. She's just to crazy to string along. He told her exactly what she needed to hear.

Honestly, after hearing Naomi talk herself up so much in RW Vegas 2011 and in this, saying that she was from the Bronx and that she would kill *****es, I expected her to kick Mandi’s *** in this. I mean, if there’s one thing Naomi seems like she’s good at, it’s something with a lot of close physical contact. Now, she has no credibility whatsoever; if she can’t beat petite blond from Portland, what is her *** gonna do against a girl like Aneesa. Pshh… I’m disappointed.

I like that 1% percent that really doesn't care much for Leroy , I mean I don't dislike him but he really is just there to me in these challenges people hype him and Micheal up to a degree I will never understand.I also don't see where he kicked Wes ***,They both put up a fight and came very close the only person that got there *** beat was Naomi.

[QUOTE=cryssy19;295489] I personally think they will show that story, but I suppose they are "saving" it for an episode that would otherwise not have any drama. I mean they cannot put all the drama into 1 episode can they? [/QUOTE] Well Priscilla, Nate, Sarah, and Vinny are in that clip. So if they don't show it next week then i doubt they will. It may be on the STSHS though.