[QUOTE=Npresh24;295504]I like that 1% percent that really doesn't care much for Leroy , I mean I don't dislike him but he really is just there to me in these challenges people hype him and Micheal up to a degree I will never understand.I also don't see where he kicked Wes ***,They both put up a fight and came very close the only person that got there *** beat was Naomi.[/QUOTE]
Wes lost 3 straight times! You would've thought he would've at least won once. Considering he's on his umpteenth challenge, and Leroy is only on his second. He was completely dominated, along with Naomi...
On other challenges like the island and the ruins people did pretty much the same thing vinny did although not out in a club and nobody seemed to care in production. Wonder if the whole Tonya law suit changed things up.
Pissed Sarah got the boot to, they should have got someone like Chet who was from her brooklyn cast to be Vinnys replacement.
[QUOTE=Ch@llengeFan;295510]On other challenges like the island and the ruins people did pretty much the same thing vinny did although not out in a club and nobody seemed to care in production. Wonder if the whole Tonya law suit changed things up.
Pissed Sarah got the boot to, [b]they should have got someone like Chet who was from her brooklyn cast to be Vinnys replacement.[/b][/QUOTE]
I am banging my head against a wall reading all of the "xxxxx should have replaced Vinny". As it was stated earlier in this thread, [b]it was not possible to replace him with anyone on such short notice.[/b]
[QUOTE=molds13;295511]I am banging my head against a wall reading all of the "xxxxx should have replaced Vinny". As it was stated earlier in this thread, [B]it was not possible to replace him with anyone on such short notice.[/B][/QUOTE]
I actually wrote if possible at the end the first time I attempted to post but for some reason it always says the post isnt long enough on my computer and I must have left it out the second time. Calm yourself though lol, its not something to stress over.
[QUOTE=JodyBreeze;295509]Wes lost 3 straight times! You would've thought he would've at least won once. Considering he's on his umpteenth challenge, and Leroy is only on his second. He was completely dominated, along with Naomi...[/QUOTE]
Experience doesn't factor into most elimination rounds. Wes being on his 6th challenge compared to Leroy being on his 2nd had no impact on their ability to wrestle the X away from one another. The reason why Wes lost was because he let Leroy get the leverage advantage.
[QUOTE=MuchoDenaro;295486]I tweeted MTV about that hahahahaha, I really don't know what else to do (maybe call mtv crying?). The show itself has been taken up by the power couple challenge, and the dome with drama nobody wants to see. Tyrie and Jasmine? What was that? Tyrie is a horrible competitor and so is Jasmine, they're like a "filler" couple, but the whole beginning was dedicated to them. I really wanted to see the CT/Ty thing either online or on the show, and the CT incident. Lasst season they showed extended clips of CT vs Wes, and CT vs Cara Maria so idk why they won't do it now.
Also after this episode I want to bring up the "Leroy good guy" thing. How does putting another girl all over you when a girl in the house obviously likes u and he obvs is attracted to her making him a good guy? At least when CT explodes he has reasons for it which I think is a lot more understandable than Leroys commitment phobe attitude. I don't think he's getting a "good edit" at all.[/QUOTE]
You sound like such a buzz kill.
[QUOTE=Npresh24;295504]I like that 1% percent that really doesn't care much for Leroy , I mean I don't dislike him but he really is just there to me in these challenges people hype him and Micheal up to a degree I will never understand.I also don't see where he kicked Wes ***,They both put up a fight and came very close the only person that got there *** beat was Naomi.[/QUOTE]
lol @ put up a fight. I'd understand if he would of won at least once round. But Wes couldn't even do that. The fact is, Roylee whooped that ***. Wes got humbled real quick. And I'm actually one of the feel that like him and find him entertaining.
And good grief Naomi, you couldn't even win once?
You guys know I had to come back here after this last episode. Remember a few years ago I told you about Wes ripping my friends shirt off at the bar and then giving her his hoodie that Johanna gave him? Way to be a hypocrite Wes!
This was a neat episode. It showcased BMP and MTV's new stance on sexual harassment, AND had a fun elimination match up.
The elimination was not original. It's like pole wrestling, except with two perpendicular poles. That said, I found myself not caring about the originality, because it would be a very physical elimination with two strong male competitors, two female competitors, one of which is bat **** crazy, and the other being underestimated because she's pretty, boring, and a blonde. GOOD STUFF!
Can't say I was surprised by Mandi spanking Naomi. Strength of personality isn't worth a two penny prostitute if the match up is based purely on physical strength and endurance. So when Naomi mentioned that she had underestimated Mandi, all I heard was Naomi saying "Derp derp, derp derp derp, derp DERP derp, derp derp durrrrrrrrrrrr."
I also expected Leroy to win. In part because I saw the spoilers, BUT ALSO because he has a size advantage over Wes, and he's no slouch. What I did not expect was the degree of domination by Leroy. I remember watching Wes pole wrestle Derrick and win. So I did NOT expect to see Leroy dominate him in quite that way. Leroy shamed Wes. Eh, at least Wes was a good sport about it.
I guess I'll talk about the drama stuff a little bit. Jasmine is crazy, but who didn't already know that? I guess the only difference now is she is crazy AND conceited. I like that she tried to body up against Tyrie. I liked it because it was like she was bodying up a brick **** house. SHE'S SO TINY. If she runs into a wall hard enough she'll ricochet like some sort of crazy, conceited bullet that loves breaking glass. Diem's gotta stop worrying about the freaking water. That Challenge would've been a cinch if she wasn't so concerned about falling. You beat cancer! Challenges should be small potatoes compared to a battle for your life, sweetheart. You're alright though.
Then there's Vinny. Ah, Vinny. You won the hearts and minds of the skeptical public when Johnny allowed you to win that challenge. Not 4 minutes ago, I was drunkenly saying something along the lines of "if lard bucket here takes a spill, the result will be a ******* tidal bore!" A har, har, har. But no, he won! He endeared me to his pear-shaped self, in much the same way the moon is endeared by the Earth's gravity. Then he started talking again. And then he took some poor girl's top off (She can wear whatever ****** get-up she wants. Just because she dons pink thready things highlighting her boobage does not give anyone license to take said top off, unless she, in fact, asks somebody to take it off, or maybe if it is on fire or something). Then at the deliberation the next day, in a valiant effort to win the public back, he gives us his best, awful, Kenny Santucci impression by highlighting the fact that Wes is a tool box, and is considered in some circles to be an ugo. No, Vinny. It's too late for that. The hurt ya done caused your adoring fans ain't gonna wear off any time soon. Who knows when we'll be ready for love again? Maybe never... Maybe... Never...
Seriously though, doesn't surprise me. He's always been kinda *******, and would be right at home with the Jersey Shore crew.
[QUOTE=Mind Riot;295552]This was a neat episode. It showcased BMP and MTV's new stance on sexual harassment, AND had a fun elimination match up.
The elimination was not original. It's like pole wrestling, except with two perpendicular poles. That said, I found myself not caring about the originality, because it would be a very physical elimination with two strong male competitors, two female competitors, one of which is bat **** crazy, and the other being underestimated because she's pretty, boring, and a blonde. GOOD STUFF!
Can't say I was surprised by Mandi spanking Naomi. Strength of personality isn't worth a two penny prostitute if the match up is based purely on physical strength and endurance. So when Naomi mentioned that she had underestimated Mandi, all I heard was Naomi saying "Derp derp, derp derp derp, derp DERP derp, derp derp durrrrrrrrrrrr."
I also expected Leroy to win. In part because I saw the spoilers, BUT ALSO because he has a size advantage over Wes, and he's no slouch. What I did not expect was the degree of domination by Leroy. I remember watching Wes pole wrestle Derrick and win. So I did NOT expect to see Leroy dominate him in quite that way. Leroy shamed Wes. Eh, at least Wes was a good sport about it.
I guess I'll talk about the drama stuff a little bit. Jasmine is crazy, but who didn't already know that? I guess the only difference now is she is crazy AND conceited. I like that she tried to body up against Tyrie. I liked it because it was like she was bodying up a brick **** house. SHE'S SO TINY. If she runs into a wall hard enough she'll ricochet like some sort of crazy, conceited bullet that loves breaking glass. Diem's gotta stop worrying about the freaking water. That Challenge would've been a cinch if she wasn't so concerned about falling. You beat cancer! Challenges should be small potatoes compared to a battle for your life, sweetheart. You're alright though.
Then there's Vinny. Ah, Vinny. You won the hearts and minds of the skeptical public when Johnny allowed you to win that challenge. Not 4 minutes ago, I was drunkenly saying something along the lines of "if lard bucket here takes a spill, the result will be a ******* tidal bore!" A har, har, har. But no, he won! He endeared me to his pear-shaped self, in much the same way the moon is endeared by the Earth's gravity. Then he started talking again. And then he took some poor girl's top off (She can wear whatever ****** get-up she wants. Just because she dons pink thready things highlighting her boobage does not give anyone license to take said top off, unless she, in fact, asks somebody to take it off, or maybe if it is on fire or something). Then at the deliberation the next day, in a valiant effort to win the public back, he gives us his best, awful, Kenny Santucci impression by highlighting the fact that Wes is a tool box, and is considered in some circles to be an ugo. No, Vinny. It's too late for that. The hurt ya done caused your adoring fans ain't gonna wear off any time soon. Who knows when we'll be ready for love again? Maybe never... Maybe... Never...
Seriously though, doesn't surprise me. He's always been kinda *******, and would be right at home with the Jersey Shore crew.[/QUOTE]
This is probably one of the best recaps I have ever read at this site.
[QUOTE=ballinbroken;295543]You sound like such a buzz kill.[/QUOTE]
1. I've been watching these shows since before Mark punched the bus, this season is lackluster with my faves stirrin the pot. jasmine/tyrie? Seriously? Give me a break haha. I miss the CT trimming the fat, punching cacti, and smashing heads and eating them. Not jasmine getting in Tyries face. The show itself is a buzz kill right now 2. I don't like Leroy, I think his whole "I can't do relationships" routine is like a little boy, a man can handle being in a relationship and his attitude to Naomi is far from a "good edit" in my opinion
It took me a week to find a link for the first episode, so I'll come back next week with my thoughts.
I really don't get the stupid censorship. I wanna be able to watch it here in europe too.
[QUOTE=intlove;295560]It took me a week to find a link for the first episode, so I'll come back next week with my thoughts.
I really don't get the stupid censorship. I wanna be able to watch it here in europe too.[/QUOTE]
Really? I was in France this summer when Rivals was airing, and I used to watch it on MTV.com with no issue; I guess they changed that...
[QUOTE=MuchoDenaro;295555]1. I've been watching these shows since before Mark punched the bus, this season is lackluster with my faves stirrin the pot. jasmine/tyrie? Seriously? Give me a break haha. I miss the CT trimming the fat, punching cacti, and smashing heads and eating them. Not jasmine getting in Tyries face. The show itself is a buzz kill right now 2. I don't like Leroy, I think his whole "I can't do relationships" routine is like a little boy, a man can handle being in a relationship and his attitude to Naomi is far from a "good edit" in my opinion[/QUOTE]
Leroy doesn't want to be in a relationship with Naomi though. If you watched the Vegas season you will see they agreed to be friends with benefits and not in a relationship but Naomi caught feelings for him. He is also currently in a relationship with someone else so he can handle it. He just didn't want one with Naomi.
Some new info I've gathered thanks to the wonders of Twitter:
- The planks for the face off were tied together to prevent them from swinging all over the place like in the first round.
- Johnny and Camila did in fact throw the 2nd round so they didn't have to be in the power couple position again.
- Some people thought Mark and Robin came in last prior to it being announced that it was Leroy and Naomi who lost.
- Mandi may or may not have been wearing pasties in the club.
I don't care that Sarah got sent home with Vinny. I never really liked either of them that much. But with that said, why was Johnny able to throw a dude down a flight of stairs on Cutthroat when they were out at a club and not get sent home, But Vinny gets sent home for that? I'm sure someones already brought that up but I mean, seriously BMP. Come on now.
[QUOTE=eagles28;295568]I don't care that Sarah got sent home with Vinny. I never really liked either of them that much. But with that said, why was Johnny able to throw a dude down a flight of stairs on Cutthroat when they were out at a club and not get sent home, But Vinny gets sent home for that? I'm sure someones already brought that up but I mean, seriously BMP. Come on now.[/QUOTE]
Once again, it's not BMP. The decision came from the top. You can see in TJ;s demeanor that he's not down with it. You can't fight the lawyers. Well, you can, but it's frightfully expensive.
I'm of the opinion, that all the serious decisions are now vetted at the top of MTV food chain.
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Vinny is the Garfield, Sarah is the lasagna.
Im kinda ok with Sarah getting kicked off. She knew what happened the night before, but she went along with the plan to throw them in anyways. If that happened with me and my partner I'd 'try to make it up to Mandi.
But instead she lets him ramble on for 20 min about Wes and Mandi being ugly....
Maybe if they chose a different couple, Wes wouldn't have said anything about the club incident ,and BMP would've let it go.
Having said that, it is VERY clear what the higher ups had in mind here.
"look how we handled something as small as taking off a girls top, you think we would allow something like a rape to go on?"
Also all this talk about Mandi is the nastiest thing I have ever heard, I dont care what shes done in the past,or what she was wearing,it was wrong PERIOD!
Just saw last nights episode! I gotta get MTV, I miss you guys on Wednesdays at 9!!!
My thoughts: I agree I think Johnny/Camila threw the 2nd round, especially considering that the planks were tied together and balance wasn't an issue. Smart John, but I still dislike you dude. I'm praying one of the rookies has the gumption to toss him and Camila (who I like) into the Dome.
Diem is annoying, really want to like her this season, but her whole "You yell at me, I won't do anything!" speech did it for me. So overrated to me.
I like Wes, but not more than Lee, therefore the outcome of the Dome was perfect for me. Props Lee!! I couldn't help but imagine how Mike was reacting watching at home haha.
I feel bad for Sarah, especially considering that this is the first time I ever found her tolerable and likeable on TV, maybe its cuz she's blonde now?
Vinny behaved like a cow tonight, I like him less and less each challenge. Praying this was his last. Cow.
Jasmine, I love you, but relax.
These episodes need more Mark/Robin and Aneesa/Rachel!!!
Lastly, did anyone else find it weird that they still held an elimination round considering Sarah/Vinny left early. With how popular Leroy and Wes are, I thought for sure production would have used any excuse to preserve the 2 of them.
Also, Molds13 you're awesome, marry me!!! Tehe!!
Oh and was I am the only one finding themselves missing Laurel on this Challenge? I can't stand the girl, but I would love to her performing this time around.
Mandi is underrated. Our of the 4 challenges she has been in I believe she has only been eliminated by her own hands once. On Fresh Meat II Wes broke down. On Rivals, her partner couldn't keep pace, and on Exes Wes got swept. She is a tough opponent who will give you a fight.
It seems to me that Wes' athletic ability has strangely declined. He has to be what, 26, 27....28 max? He should be coming into his physical prime right now. Somewhere over the last couple of years his stamina has taken a hit. My theory is that he has focuses a lot on strength and muscle but he has neglected his cardio or endurance. On Fresh Meat II he gassed. In Rivals he did get hurt but he also gassed out quite considerably according to Kenny (who will not hesitate to talk about how terrible Wes was in that final).
Leroy said that that elimination was all about endurance. He knew he could win becasue he put a lot of work into his cardio and Wes kept getting tired. Wes' cardio has failed him 3 times in a row now. If he wants to keep doing these and get back to old form maybe he should consider shaving some muscle and aiming for durability.
[QUOTE=Dash_Vegas!;295590]Oh and was I am the only one finding themselves missing Laurel on this Challenge? I can't stand the girl, but I would love to her performing this time around.[/QUOTE]
I want to see who is the best between Laurel, Emily, and Rachel now that my girl Eve is out of the picture.
I bet they signed some agreement if your partner gets into trouble then you both get kicked off..it is battle of the ex's, how would they get ya a new partner?
[QUOTE=jem3772;295579][B]Im kinda ok with Sarah getting kicked off. She knew what happened the night before, but she went along with the plan to throw them in anyways. If that happened with me and my partner I'd 'try to make it up to Mandi.
But instead she lets him ramble on for 20 min about Wes and Mandi being ugly....[/B]
Maybe if they chose a different couple, Wes wouldn't have said anything about the club incident ,and BMP would've let it go.
Having said that, it is VERY clear what the higher ups had in mind here.
"look how we handled something as small as taking off a girls top, you think we would allow something like a rape to go on?"
Also all this talk about Mandi is the nastiest thing I have ever heard, I dont care what shes done in the past,or what she was wearing,it was wrong PERIOD![/QUOTE]
Who else would they send in though? Once these people get a scape goat they keep using them as long as they can. But it was annoying to watch Vinny talk **** about Wes and especially Mandi. And now he's going on twitter tweeting crap about Wes, what you're pissed at him for defending Mandi? He's wrong and needs to **** and its not like Vinny is super good looking. I wonder if they'll let Vinny back after all this, now that MTV is more strict.
[QUOTE=Blue123;295596]Who else would they send in though? Once these people get a scape goat they keep using them as long as they can. But it was annoying to watch Vinny talk **** about Wes and especially Mandi. And now he's going on twitter tweeting crap about Wes, what you're pissed at him for defending Mandi? He's wrong and needs to **** and its not like Vinny is super good looking. I wonder if they'll let Vinny back after all this, now that MTV is more strict.[/QUOTE]
They could've gotten away with sending in Jas/Tyrie, or Dustin/Heather.
I just rewatched this episode and I'm surprised nobody found the order of the challenge "odd". How did MTV allow the only two african american teams to go head to head? It seemed like a blatant move. Only one team was elimated so far and of all the potential orders (I think there's over 150 possible combos) that's how it worked out? Just wow.
[QUOTE=MuchoDenaro;295614]I just rewatched this episode and I'm surprised nobody found the order of the challenge "odd". How did MTV allow the only two african american teams to go head to head? It seemed like a blatant move. Only one team was elimated so far and of all the potential orders (I think there's over 150 possible combos) that's how it worked out? Just wow.[/QUOTE]
-____- I've never had to do a facepalm over the internet...
Johnny and Camila selected the order for the challenge, not MTV. Also, there are other black people on teams this challenge.
...This reminded me if something though, I LOVE that Leroy and Naomi are picking the order in the next challenge since they won in El Dome. I remember a time when that was the rule for each elimination round on The Challenges no matter what. I think they should go back to that. A simple change like that could add a whole nother element of strategy to the game. As it is now, it seems very "Rich get richer, poor get poorer".
[QUOTE=Calinks;295592]Mandi is underrated. Our of the 4 challenges she has been in I believe she has only been eliminated by her own hands once. On Fresh Meat II Wes broke down. On Rivals, her partner couldn't keep pace, and on Exes Wes got swept. She is a tough opponent who will give you a fight.
It seems to me that Wes' athletic ability has strangely declined. He has to be what, 26, 27....28 max? He should be coming into his physical prime right now. Somewhere over the last couple of years his stamina has taken a hit. My theory is that he has focuses a lot on strength and muscle but he has neglected his cardio or endurance. On Fresh Meat II he gassed. In Rivals he did get hurt but he also gassed out quite considerably according to Kenny (who will not hesitate to talk about how terrible Wes was in that final).
Leroy said that that elimination was all about endurance. He knew he could win becasue he put a lot of work into his cardio and Wes kept getting tired. Wes' cardio has failed him 3 times in a row now. If he wants to keep doing these and get back to old form maybe he should consider shaving some muscle and aiming for durability.[/QUOTE]
Wes' ability declined? More like Leroy is just THAT strong. I don't think he changed from "The Duel 1". It's that the competition got a lot tougher now.
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