[QUOTE=TSPKM2;310504]That had to do with Dick/Daniele and Jeff and Jordan because of their popularity, people weren't watchig for Brendon and Rachel...if you remember Rachel's season was [b] season 12 which had ****ty ratings [/b] and went down as one of the worst seasons ever, people obviously weren't watching for her. Plus everyone hated her until she became BFFs with Jordan.
I get that wretched redhead has some fans, but let's get real, she doesn't bring in ratings...there are people that didnt watch TAR because of her, and there are people that probably wouldn't watch BB14 because of her, but you know the Rachel fans would watch even if she wasn't apart of this season.
....and ****** and Dan aren't going to bring in ratings either.[/QUOTE]
ORLLY? [url=http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/09/01/big-brother-10-record-ratings/]'Big Brother 12' is drawing record ratings: Why are you tuning in this summer? | PopWatch | EW.com[/url]
While us fans knew which 3 duos were returning, the majority of CBS viewers had no idea which couples would be returning.
[QUOTE=erodwhtboy;310529]IDK why they didnt get Jeff or **** back instead of ****** or Dan. I mean ED is always down to be on Big Brother and he's ratings.[/QUOTE]
I don't think BB is interested in bringing ED back. There is a lot that is still fishy about his suspicously timed exit last season minutes before the feeds went live. Plus, have you seen the video he put out recently? He's looking really rough these days.
[QUOTE=V1man;310411]Almost to an individual, every past BB cast member I know things Dan was very boring TV. I can't say I have any reason to disagree with them.[/QUOTE]
I thing Dan is awesome, better player than Will. Dan isn't boring, he doesn't cause drama, his diary rooms aren't witty one liners, he doesn't get drunk and act a fool. That hardley makes him boring. He adds great gameplay and strategy talk. Plus his relationship with Renny was hilarious and his motivational speeches at the endurance challenge were great. Dan would make an awesome addition to the cast.
[QUOTE=Kajun;310539]I thing Dan is awesome, better player than Will. Dan isn't boring, he doesn't cause drama, his diary rooms aren't witty one liners, he doesn't get drunk and act a fool. That hardley makes him boring. He adds great gameplay and strategy talk. Plus his relationship with Renny was hilarious and his motivational speeches at the endurance challenge were great. Dan would make an awesome addition to the cast.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but there's no way Dan is a better player than Will. That's just ridiculous IMO. You may like him better as a person but he wasn't a better player. Dan's one of the most overrated players IMO that has played the game. I hope he does return so we can see how bad he looks when matched up with people like Janelle & ******. Dan's a very good player but he's not elite. If he proves me wrong I'll gladly admit it but based on S10, S2 & S7 there's no way one can claim Dan > Will.
My perfect scenario is Janelle, Will, **** and either Danielle Reyes. With the options given I'm hoping for Britney, ******, Dan & Janelle since I don't think anyone should play back-to-back seasons--let alone 3 in a row like Rachel would.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;310540][B]I'm sorry but there's no way Dan is a better player than Will. That's just ridiculous IMO.[/B] You may like him better as a person but he wasn't a better player. Dan's one of the most overrated players IMO that has played the game. I hope he does return so we can see how bad he looks when matched up with people like Janelle & ******. Dan's a very good player but he's not elite. If he proves me wrong I'll gladly admit it but based on S10, S2 & S7 there's no way one can claim Dan > Will.
My perfect scenario is Janelle, Will, **** and either Danielle Reyes. With the options given I'm hoping for Britney, ******, Dan & Janelle since I don't think anyone should play back-to-back seasons--let alone 3 in a row like Rachel would.[/QUOTE]
Well Dan completed dominated season. It wasn't even close who was the best player his season, and he won unanimously. I do think though that Dan's competition his season was pretty weak. Everyone was so oblivious and delusional that season, so I don't think Dan was really tested. Maybe it's hard to say or evaluate just how good (or how not so good) Dan truly was.
I know there is always debate on who the better Big Brother player is and I'll tell you time and time again that I think Will is better (mainly just because he was the first "strategic" winner), but honestly, you can't really compare the two. The game has changed drastically from the time that Will was on the show to when Dan was. If anything, Dan actually won some competitions in the end, but when it comes to gameplay, I see them almost as even.
[QUOTE=erodwhtboy;310529]IDK why they didnt get Jeff or **** back instead of ****** or Dan. I mean ED is always down to be on Big Brother and he's ratings.[/QUOTE]
The announced reason for ED leaving BB last year before show began was bogus. He was asked not to talk about something on the feeds and he refused. What he was doing was creating a legal liability that CBS could not accept; therefore, he had to go.
Jeff has other commitments, including a new show on CBS's internet channel featuring himself and Jordan. Its timing is designed to piggyback on the large BB feed audience.
[QUOTE=fabulous788;310547]I know there is always debate on who the better Big Brother player is and I'll tell you time and time again that I think Will is better (mainly just because he was the first "strategic" winner), but honestly, you can't really compare the two. The game has changed drastically from the time that Will was on the show to when Dan was. If anything, Dan actually won some competitions in the end, but when it comes to gameplay, I see them almost as even.[/QUOTE]
I agree the game has changed greatly from S2. Even in All-Stars though Will played a nearly perfect strategic game. I really do hope we get to see Dan for a second time just so we can better judge his game play. The Season 10 cast in general never impressed me. Just my opinion.
Some of us fans actually like great players with good strategy over players that HAVE to be on camera and in drama. I love that Dan is returning and his return is well deserved.
Britney was a MEAN GIRL on her season but was very entertaining & funny. She did well. Hoping that she is the final mentor. I'm just glad Natalie is out of the running!
[QUOTE=smithb12;310696] [b] Some of us fans actually like great players with good strategy over players that HAVE to be on camera and in drama. [/b] I love that Dan is returning and his return is well deserved.
Britney was a MEAN GIRL on her season but was very entertaining & funny. She did well. Hoping that she is the final mentor. I'm just glad Natalie is out of the running![/QUOTE]
Because Brit totally fits that? She was nothing more than a pawn in the Bragade's game. I can't take anyone who gets played by Enzo, Hayden, and Lane seriously.
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;310701]Because Brit totally fits that? She was nothing more than a pawn in the Bragade's game. I can't take anyone who gets played by Enzo, Hayden, and Lane seriously.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you 100% but to be fair that season was the worst strategic season EVER. She should not be a mentor. I really was pulling for Danielle (BB3) but she isn't even an option on the CBS website.
[QUOTE=RMD1;310708]They have a picture floating around. It is definetly 2 men and 2 women.[/QUOTE]
I never thought they wouldn't do that. It makes the most sense. If I could choose the four people I would want as mentors it would be Will, Dan, Danielle, and Jun.
But I'm still content with the potential ones because Rachel isn't one of them.
Here is the group photo that they do every year. I think this is the photo that RMD1 is talking about. Only three days guys!
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[QUOTE=challenger90;310711]I am still confused as to why the beautiful, the fabulous, Jen Johnson has not graced our TV screens again.[/QUOTE]
Because she broke the food restriction rule and doesn't deserve to come back.
[QUOTE=Apollo;310710]Here is the group photo that they do every year. I think this is the photo that RMD1 is talking about. Only three days guys!
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Definitely looks like Boogie's nasty feet...
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;310701]Because Brit totally fits that? She was nothing more than a pawn in the Bragade's game. I can't take anyone who gets played by Enzo, Hayden, and Lane seriously.[/QUOTE]
No, that comment was aimed at those who are saying Dan is too boring to come back. I agree that Britney didn't play the best game, hints why she didn't win, but somehow she is one of the only memorable players from her season. The Brigade and cast that season were not interesting. Rachel saved that season!
[QUOTE=erodwhtboy;310722]Looks like no showmance for ****** this season I don't see any old men. You can tall whos legs are Brits since she's real petite[/QUOTE]
And you can tell that the other one is Janelle. She's quite tall and I thought you could spot her hair just a tad!
[QUOTE=challenger90;310711]I am still confused as to why the beautiful, the fabulous, Jen Johnson has not graced our TV screens again.[/QUOTE]
You and me both!! Jenius needs to come back!!!
But I'm sooo excited for this season to start, its taking forever!! Can't wait to see Janelle again. Out of the newbies, I like JoJo, Ashley, Ian and maybe Willie.
[QUOTE=arilicious;310754]I know I'm certainly not looking forward to seeing another Hantz on my TV screen.[/QUOTE]
Yeah me too, especially after reading his bio.
[url=http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/07/09/big-brother-14-meet-the-houseguests-video/]'Big Brother 14' cast talks about new season | Inside TV | EW.com[/url]
I think they should change the rules for the final 3. First, get rid of the stupid guessing game at Part 3 of the final HOH. How they **** are the houseguests gonna know what the jurors say in the jury house? They're just guessing at best. And second, keep the veto. If person A wins HOH and person B wins the Veto, then they both make it. If the same person wins both HOH and veto, then they earned the right to choose to sits across from them in the final 2. And this will also differentiate BB a little more from Survivor too.
[QUOTE=rsox813;310853]I think they should change the rules for the final 3. First, get rid of the stupid guessing game at Part 3 of the final HOH. How they **** are the houseguests gonna know what the jurors say in the jury house? They're just guessing at best. And second, keep the veto. If person A wins HOH and person B wins the Veto, then they both make it. If the same person wins both HOH and veto, then they earned the right to choose to sits across from them in the final 2. And this will also differentiate BB a little more from Survivor too.[/QUOTE]
Having a F2 separates it from Survivor. I absolutely hate the fact Survivor has 3 people in the final. I don't see how your plan would separate it any more. The entire point of the "guessing game" is to see how well you know the HGs. If you got to know them well you should have a better opportunity to win the Final HOH.
[QUOTE=rsox813;310853]I think they should change the rules for the final 3. First, get rid of the stupid guessing game at Part 3 of the final HOH. How they **** are the houseguests gonna know what the jurors say in the jury house? They're just guessing at best. And second, keep the veto. If person A wins HOH and person B wins the Veto, then they both make it. If the same person wins both HOH and veto, then they earned the right to choose to sits across from them in the final 2. And this will also differentiate BB a little more from Survivor too.[/QUOTE]
I hate the that part of the final HOH! It's such a crapshoot, I mean Rachel got the Brendon question wrong last year! But, I would be so ****** if BB did a final 3, that's the worst part of Survivor imo. Most of the time in BB the person that goes out in 3rd is a ****ty player anyway(Adam, Enzo, Jerry, Sheila, Zach).
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;310867]I hate the that part of the final HOH! It's such a crapshoot, I mean Rachel got the Brendon question wrong last year! But, I would be so ****** if BB did a final 3, that's the worst part of Survivor imo. Most of the time in BB the person that goes out in 3rd is a ****ty player anyway(Adam, Enzo, Jerry, Sheila, Zach).[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I agree. I hated it in the Cook Islands when they introduced the final three. Just for clarification, I still want a Final 2 in BB (and Survivor for that matter), I just think they could go about getting there a different way.
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