The Challenge: 41-WAY Too Early Pointless Speculation Thread

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Jared makes sense.  

And he was messy so I wouldn't be shocked if he's on. BB25 had some potentially messy younger rookies (Kirsten, Blue, America).

Hisam old as shit but I feel like he'd actually do well on here.

I know yall don't like some of these people I also don't care. 

I watched like 2 episodes of Big Brother 25 waiting for USA2 to come on. I came away with:

1.) These people are absolutely insufferable and I never want to see any of them ever again.

2.) Except Reilly. Reilly is bae.

BB25 is the worst season of all-time. It should be ignored but if Felicia, Kristen, and Reilly received calls I'd be ok.

Felicia LOL. Does Kirsten have athletic abilites? She fine...

Is Kyland getting exposed before 41 gets cast? Becuase if he, Horacio, and Nelson (obviously) are done, Nurys might be done for awhile too. Otherwise, Nurys is gonna be a lamb led to the slaughter.

 

BB25 is the worst season of all-time. It should be ignored but if Felicia, Kristen, and Reilly received calls I'd be ok.

Felicia LOL. Does Kirsten have athletic abilites? She fine...

I don't know. Yall know I don't care about the competition part of the show lol. All my favs are weakáşs flops minus Theo and Darrell. I just want to watch pretty people be dramatic and entertain me. 

Yall asking for Reilly of all people back? Ok

CBS people are so dull and boring. You'd have better luck recruiting people at your local church.

I pray they don't bring Americory Sad

Yall asking for Reilly of all people back? Ok

Way better than Blue who you mentioned lol.

Kirsten would do better on this

Yall asking for Reilly of all people back? Ok

She seems...like...universally popular.

 

Yall asking for Reilly of all people back? Ok

She seems...like...universally popular.

People wanna **** her that's not the same thing 

 

Yall asking for Reilly of all people back? Ok

Way better than Blue who you mentioned lol.

Blue at least has storylines. She annoyed me too but I see some value with her being delusional.  

When Reilly links with the people yall don't like yall gonna hate her any damn way.

I'd rather Love Island talent anyway but I know all the good people from this last season are gonna say no.

They better give my girl Imani a call. I think she's wrapped up in school but I need that debut asap. Bring Justine back and add in Ray. Mess already.

They're not going to bring in any Love Island US people that haven't already debuted. The IP is owned by a completely different network now. 

 

Yall asking for Reilly of all people back? Ok

She seems...like...universally popular.

she's not at all, i'd say she's more disliked than liked honestly 

They're not going to bring in any Love Island US people that haven't already debuted. The IP is owned by a completely different network now. 

that hasn't stopped them before from casting ppl from HBO, Netflix, etc. i'd be surprised if they aren't calling Love Island people 

 

 

Yall asking for Reilly of all people back? Ok

She seems...like...universally popular.

she's not at all, i'd say she's more disliked than liked honestly 

Really? I have no idea. Like I said, I saw 2 episodes and she was cute and bubbly.

We could get some Casa people on The Challenge. Hopefully George & Destiny for some new Asian representation.

 

They're not going to bring in any Love Island US people that haven't already debuted. The IP is owned by a completely different network now. 

that hasn't stopped them before from casting ppl from HBO, Netflix, etc. i'd be surprised if they aren't calling Love Island people 

I mean, is it technically possible that two or three Love Islander rookies get cast this season? I guess. I just don't expect a whole new crop like USA1 to show up. Love Island US doesn't have the greatest track record for castmembers either:

Cinco, Cashay, Javonny, Cely, Shannon, Cashel, Kyra, etc. we'll never see again. Even ones with potential like Johnny Middlebrooks and (to a lesser extent) Justine and Jeremiah have fallen completely off the show.

Ashley M's return to the flagship I pray

Daia Sydney Daniella and Sierra giving ride or dies girls alliance 

Spies Lies and Allies is such an absolute disaster from an entertainment perspective and from a casting perspective.

Such a massive cast (36 contestants) with TWENTY Rookies and those break down into: 10 Rookies we will most likely NEVER see again (Lauren, Tracy, Tacha, Bettina, Renan, Kelz, Tommy, Gabo, Jeremiah, Logan), three rookies that are hanging by a thread as to whether we'll ever see them again (Emy, Esther, Priscilla), four two-timers that everyone basically hates or thinks are useless (Hughie, Corey, Berna, Emanuel), a utility player that will probably get one or two more seasons (Ed), one potential franchise player (Michaela), and one franchise staple (Michele).

What a mess.

They should start casting models from P*rnHub.

One things for sure Josh will be making an appearance

no shade but the s41 rookies need to be from american tv shows. i get their idea for bringing international competitors in, as they tried airing the show internationally, but the challenge has not been successful in any other market (look at the intl spinoffs that all flopped), so casting someone from The Mole Germany is not bringing in new viewers to MTV. bringing in NEW rookies from SUCCESSFUL american shows (love island, the traitors, survivor, big brother, etc) is the smartest thing they can do to attract new viewers. i'm sure they'll still find a way to mess this up lmaoooo but it should be very telling that Era 4 was made up of 8 americans 2 brits and 0 intls (of the 100 they've cast). 

I just tried to do some napkin math on this but it was taking forever and it was getting annoying but what I found is that the Australian/UK retention rate is around 35% (this is majorly buoyed by WOTW2 and WC), US is around 30% (obviously the vast majority of dropped rookies are American), and all other Internationals is around 14% (it's pathetically bad, like 5 players out of approx. 35ish). And the only reason it's not hanging around 10% is because Nam is somehow an alumni of three seasons of the show.

So if you put 10 rookie UKers/Aussies on, 10 rookie US Players on, and 10 rookie International Players on Season 41, in 3 seasons, around 3 or 4 UK players, 3 US players, and 1 International player will still be on the show. That's just a devastating indictment that non-English dominant countries do not need to waste cast spots on this thing.

And what makes it worse is that I'm not including the spinoff shows, this is just the people that made it on the flagship or WC. If you include the spinoffs, the retention rate to the flagship plummets to under 20% for the USers, under 15% for the UKers/Aussies, and under 5% for the Internationals.

They should start casting models from P*rnHub.

didn't Alan Valdez come from corn & telenovelas?

Imani it's time Smile

How they dropped Middlebrooks who has potential to become a big name makes me doubt them bringing any LI USA rookies

How they dropped Middlebrooks who has potential to become a big name makes me doubt them bringing any LI USA rookies

Exactly. They dropped every US Love Islander except the girl that almost obliterated her brain with a golf ball in their final.

 

How they dropped Middlebrooks who has potential to become a big name makes me doubt them bringing any LI USA rookies

Exactly. They dropped every US Love Islander except the girl that almost obliterated her brain with a golf ball in their final.

And adds NOTHING to the show btw....

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