The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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honestly, casting should have only stayed between North America and UK

the show starting flopping when they started casting from the UK wym?

Yet the best cast members from newer seasons are all from Uk/Internacionals Georgia Theo, Rogan, Ashley C., Turbo. Dee etc.

The show started Flopping long before Vendettas, it had a few good seasons around dirty xxx but it started flopping long before the brits started coming 

 

Yup. Remember, Dirty 30 was their highest rated season in a few years at that point, and it was bringing in like ******** viewers.  

i remember when this show was bringing in 3-4 million people. Inferno II ratings were golden. 

Melissa, kayleigh, joss, kyle and rogan were such an iconic class they honestly shoulda stopped the international class then and there

I want to see more people from international places tbh. They just suck at picking them. Who the hell asked for 2 Romanians of all countries lol

is romania even a pretty place to visit for a trip?

Honestly prefered the brits of war of the worlds 1, Theo, Ashley, Bear, Georgia and Dee. Joss was a great competitor but he was boring, and Kayleigh was pure entertainment but me personally don't like her, but both seasons had great english casting

Romania has some hot *** people 

British casting. Brits don't like being called English and vice versa. 

is romania even a pretty place to visit for a trip?

The rich parts are pretty but Romania is probably one of the poorest countries in europe it has a minimum wage of like 400 euros

Where MTV messed up is instead of bringing in international people in small groups like they did on Vendettas they started bringing LOTS of them at the same damn time. 

British casting. Brits don't like being called English and vice versa. 

England is part of Britain as Britain is not a country its an Island, not to mention that all the people o mentioned with exception of Dee are in fact English

Romania has some hot *** people 

well production should look harder as emy and emmanuel look unbathed and need a dentist appointment asap

Where MTV messed up is instead of bringing in international people in small groups like they did on Vendettas they started bringing LOTS of them at the same damn time. 

seauxxx sis i missed you and your hot takes on these threads. You always give us the brutal truth!!!

But where should they cast from if not internationally? Casuals hate wherever rookies come from. They hate people from big brother, they hate people from other MTV shows like ayto, they get mad at wherever rookies come from so why not go for the cheaper ones?

Im shocked they never cast people from jersey shore on the challenge. They may not have said yes in their prime but im sure some would say yes now that that family vacation show is flopping hard especially angelina's ********* ***

Im shocked they never cast people from jersey shore on the challenge. They may not have said yes in their prime but im sure some would say yes now that that family vacation show is flopping hard especially angelina's ********* ***

I wish they would cast Tashi and Nungshi. 

But where should they cast from if not internationally? Casuals hate wherever rookies come from. They hate people from big brother, they hate people from other MTV shows like ayto, they get mad at wherever rookies come from so why not go for the cheaper ones?

american survivor, big brother, love island and the bachelor/bachelorette. It would save these tragic ratings unlike casting 20 unknows from yugoslavia

Im shocked they never cast people from jersey shore on the challenge. They may not have said yes in their prime but im sure some would say yes now that that family vacation show is flopping hard especially angelina's ********* ***

 

They make 6 figures per episode and age legit celebs worldwide.  

The Challenge would have to put them what they're asking for. 

Romania has some hot *** people 

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Im shocked they never cast people from jersey shore on the challenge. They may not have said yes in their prime but im sure some would say yes now that that family vacation show is flopping hard especially angelina's ********* ***

 

They make 6 figures per episode and age legit celebs worldwide.  

The Challenge would have to put them what they're asking for. 

6 figures back then or now? Because that family vacation show currently does absymal ratings. The challenge which is doing an awful 600k ratings is even doing better than them.

 

But where should they cast from if not internationally? Casuals hate wherever rookies come from. They hate people from big brother, they hate people from other MTV shows like ayto, they get mad at wherever rookies come from so why not go for the cheaper ones?

american survivor, big brother, love island and the bachelor/bachelorette. It would save these tragic ratings unlike casting 20 unknows from yugoslavia

No they wouldn't lol. Who from survivor is bringing ratings? And especially who from love island 

 

 

But where should they cast from if not internationally? Casuals hate wherever rookies come from. They hate people from big brother, they hate people from other MTV shows like ayto, they get mad at wherever rookies come from so why not go for the cheaper ones?

american survivor, big brother, love island and the bachelor/bachelorette. It would save these tragic ratings unlike casting 20 unknows from yugoslavia

No they wouldn't lol. Who from survivor is bringing ratings? And especially who from love island 

ehh would boost it more than unknowns from europe thats for certain. But the bachelor/bachelorette contestants have a huge cult following lots of them having tons of followers for some wierd reason so them.

 

Where MTV messed up is instead of bringing in international people in small groups like they did on Vendettas they started bringing LOTS of them at the same damn time. 

seauxxx sis i missed you and your hot takes on these threads. You always give us the brutal truth!!!

lmaoooo ily I'm always good for a hot take when I don't feel like trolling 

I wish MTV had a number we could call to voice these complaints.....I wanna be a Karen 

Why is Josh always at the center of this kinda shit? Can he please go. Don't care if he takes Ashley with him or not, the only thing she's been good for lately are funny confessionals. Her whole drunken madness thing got old years ago

International people are fine, the problem is that appearing on a reality show shouldnt be the sole criteria for being cast. Casting needs to actually see what their personalitys are like on the shows they were orginally from which they obviously dont do. 

Casting says the reason for rookies is to change the group dynamics each season..but another way to do that is to not cast giant groups of friends. They would be so dumb if they cast all of Josh, Tori, Devin, Fessy, Nany, Kaycee, Emy Emmanuel, Kyle, Nelson and Logan next season because were more than likey going to get the same result..

 

 

 

But where should they cast from if not internationally? Casuals hate wherever rookies come from. They hate people from big brother, they hate people from other MTV shows like ayto, they get mad at wherever rookies come from so why not go for the cheaper ones?

american survivor, big brother, love island and the bachelor/bachelorette. It would save these tragic ratings unlike casting 20 unknows from yugoslavia

No they wouldn't lol. Who from survivor is bringing ratings? And especially who from love island 

ehh would boost it more than unknowns from europe thats for certain. But the bachelor/bachelorette contestants have a huge cult following lots of them having tons of followers for some wierd reason so them.

The middle aged moms who watch the bachelor aren't tuning in for this lol

2 dq's in one season where josh is directly involved is too much... he had to dq'd with fessy . Josh isn't funny or entertaining , can't perform, brings fake drama where other vets get dq. Don't know why he is casted every season.

Didnt they make the rookies fly to New York to interview them or am I remembering wrong ?

zero authenticity left and its starting from the top to the bottom. The show is so overproduced smh.

I will never solely blame the cast, unfortunately I think they are doing what the producers want, and they will continue to if it makes them money.

Its crazy how we have these aftershows and theres still no drama lol, that shows you everything you need to know. The old aftershows was never this peaceful. Its really an array of issues that I feel like start from a production standpoint first, cast standpoint second

The cast also just has different people who keep trying to force this family image. It's ridiculous. Josh, Devin, Fessy, Kaycee, many of the foreign rookies are all pushing this "family" vibe etc. it's bullshit. Amanda spoke against this on her live. She's sick of the fake shit. Even if one doesn't like the other they act all fake. It's stupid.  

cory mentioned this fakeness on Bananas podcast too. 

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