The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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MTV needs to drop the spy shit and make next season an Exes or Rivals season. Time to go back to that and ditch the movie themes. 

Well both of last Exes and rivals seasons were terrible, but since some time has passed since then i would be fine with that, still would prefer a pure team challenge like gauntlet or Inferno or even a duel

MTV needs to cast Tashi and Nungshi. 

What? Exes 2 is one of the best seasons. That cast was a DIME. 

Changes need to save the show.

  • Spy trash gotta go.
  • Make the show fun, but also give us the petty drama. The show needs a mix.
  • Back to 60 minute episodes and shorter seasons. Shorter challenges, eliminations are necessary.
  • Josh, Devon, Kasi, & Tori HAVE to go.
  • Bring back vets like Theo, Kam, Davonne, Laurel, Tony, Dario, Georgia, Rogan, Silvia, Kailah, plus a couple All-Star personalities.
  • Bring in rookies with connections like from Love Island: Johnny M, Cely, Carrington, etc. NEW Big Brother and BB Canada personalities like Austin, Jed, Victoria, Este, Anthony. Survivor: Michele, Michaela and her friend Julia,  Lauren, Wendel, Kelley, Sydney.
  • A warm, tropical location with a house with good conditions. Give them more freedom. 
  • Changes need to save the show.

  • Make the show fun, but also give us the petty drama. The show needs a mix.
  • Back to 60 minute episodes and shorter seasons. Shorter challenges, eliminations are necessary.
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    You just described Dirty 30. That's what I consider the last true fun season. Vendettas sucked and Final Reckoning was too messy for me to enjoy. 

    What? Exes 2 is one of the best seasons. That cast was a DIME. 

    Only good thing on that season was Nany/Theresa rivalry, Wes plotting and hurricane Nia

     

    What? Exes 2 is one of the best seasons. That cast was a DIME. 

    Only good thing on that season was Nany/Theresa rivalry, Wes plotting and hurricane Nia

    ur wrong. exes 2 is overall a great season. 

    like on paper the cast is weak but the season was top 10 imo.

    I actually think Exes 2 had a strong cast... I mean Wes, Bananas, Leroy, Jordan, CT etc. it had many of the big league players. 

    let us pray kaycee follows the female champ curse and is not called back.

    i wonder what nany would do lol

    Changes need to save the show.

  • Spy trash gotta go.
  • Make the show fun, but also give us the petty drama. The show needs a mix.
  • Back to 60 minute episodes and shorter seasons. Shorter challenges, eliminations are necessary.
  • Josh, Devon, Kasi, & Tori HAVE to go.
  • Bring back vets like Theo, Kam, Davonne, Laurel, Tony, Dario, Georgia, Rogan, Silvia, Kailah, plus a couple All-Star personalities.
  • Bring in rookies with connections like from Love Island: Johnny M, Cely, Carrington, etc. NEW Big Brother and BB Canada personalities like Austin, Jed, Victoria, Este, Anthony. Survivor: Michele, Michaela and her friend Julia,  Lauren, Wendel, Kelley, Sydney.
  • A warm, tropical location with a house with good conditions. Give them more freedom. 
  • I agree with most of this but I also think they need to come up with fresh formats, find a new host, STOP EDITING OUT DRAMA, stop making the episodes so predictable even without knowing spoilers the edit tells you what's gonna happen, and they also need a new challenge team where we get fun and good tv competitions to watch. 

    Me personally hated those three seasons(exes2, bloodlines and rivals3) worse than those only these last three

    I would love a team challenge but they HAVE to learn the art of sitting out to keep it even and fair. The winning team of the last daily mission should chose who gets to sit out of the team with the numbers advantage.

    CutThroat was CUT THROAT. Get it? They didn't sit anyone out ever.  

    This seasons teams were mirrored after that season. 

    @MTV call me and I'll consult you for free to save this show. I have loved the Challenge for  15 years (liked it for 4 years, and hated it for the past 2 years). Let me save this show I loved cause you are running into the ground and it hurts to watch.

    CutThroat was CUT THROAT. Get it? They didn't sit anyone out ever.  

    This seasons teams were mirrored after that season. 

    No, I don't get it or whatever point you are trying to make.

    They have never sit anyone on any season that i could remember from the top of my head, its not from cutthroat, they did it way before that

    Maybe you should watch the CutThroat season... 

    They have never sit anyone on any season that i could remember from the top of my head, its not from cutthroat, they did it way before that

     

    Youre right. There were other seasons they didn't sit anyone out also, but that season is known for how it didn't have anyone sit out etc. There was one daily where it was just Derrick and Bananas vs like 5 guys.  

    Jenn and Emily had to run the final alone etc. 

    Maybe you should watch the CutThroat season... 

    This season's team part is based on cutthroat, not every season since cutthroat, WOW 2 has nothing to do with it, it was much closer to gauntlet or the ruins

     

    Maybe you should watch the CutThroat season... 

    This season's team part is based on cutthroat, not every season since cutthroat, WOW 2 has nothing to do with it, it was much closer to gauntlet or the ruins

     

    I know. I am saying this current season's format is CutThroat format. Someone from production even said this was a Cutthroat style teaming up. Some of the people here keep complaining about "sitting out" but Cutthroat never did that.  

    I found the clip. Bananas was already gone. Derrick was the last blue male standing. He still had to fight all the other guys solo.  

    https://youtu.be/nRcJVfORa0k

     

    They have never sit anyone on any season that i could remember from the top of my head, its not from cutthroat, they did it way before that

     

    Youre right. There were other seasons they didn't sit anyone out also, but that season is known for how it didn't have anyone sit out etc. There was one daily where it was just Derrick and Bananas vs like 5 guys.  

    Jenn and Emily had to run the final alone etc. 

    Kelly Anne and Sarah also run a final alone against Kenny, Evan, Johnny, Derrick and Susie, and Nehemiah, Frank R., Tori, Johanna Jillian and Rachel M. Won a final against CT, Evan, Brad, Kenny, Adam K., Big Easy, Paula, Robin, Diem and Evelyn

     

     

    Maybe you should watch the CutThroat season... 

    This season's team part is based on cutthroat, not every season since cutthroat, WOW 2 has nothing to do with it, it was much closer to gauntlet or the ruins

     

    I know. I am saying this current season's format is CutThroat format. Someone from production even said this was a Cutthroat style teaming up. Some of the people here keep complaining about "sitting out" but Cutthroat never did that.  

    I found the clip. Bananas was already gone. Derrick was the last blue male standing. He still had to fight all the other guys solo.  

    https://youtu.be/nRcJVfORa0k

    I remember that season pretty well, the Bananas back pack, Laurel and Sarah picking on Cara Maria, Ty gassing out against Brandon and Tyler beating Derrick in the same elimination, actually loved Cutthroat

     

     

    They have never sit anyone on any season that i could remember from the top of my head, its not from cutthroat, they did it way before that

     

    Youre right. There were other seasons they didn't sit anyone out also, but that season is known for how it didn't have anyone sit out etc. There was one daily where it was just Derrick and Bananas vs like 5 guys.  

    Jenn and Emily had to run the final alone etc. 

    Kelly Anne and Sarah also run a final alone against Kenny, Evan, Johnny, Derrick and Susie, and Nehemiah, Frank R., Tori, Johanna Jillian and Rachel M. Won a final against CT, Evan, Brad, Kenny, Adam K., Big Easy, Paula, Robin, Diem and Evelyn

     

    I just rewatched Gauntlet 3 today and if Big Easy didn't exist the Vets would have destroyed the Rookies. But I was so happy the rookies won. Frank really carried that team. 

    Wotw2 superior team season

     

     

     

    They have never sit anyone on any season that i could remember from the top of my head, its not from cutthroat, they did it way before that

     

    Youre right. There were other seasons they didn't sit anyone out also, but that season is known for how it didn't have anyone sit out etc. There was one daily where it was just Derrick and Bananas vs like 5 guys.  

    Jenn and Emily had to run the final alone etc. 

    Kelly Anne and Sarah also run a final alone against Kenny, Evan, Johnny, Derrick and Susie, and Nehemiah, Frank R., Tori, Johanna Jillian and Rachel M. Won a final against CT, Evan, Brad, Kenny, Adam K., Big Easy, Paula, Robin, Diem and Evelyn

     

    I just rewatched Gauntlet 3 today and if Big Easy didn't exist the Vets would have destroyed the Rookies. But I was so happy the rookies won. Frank really carried that team. 

    They should have send Easy against Evan on their first elimination, Evan would have destroyed Easy on sliders and they would have won the season, but I'm not mad at the result, Frank owned that season and he's one of my all time favourites and i also love Tori and Jillian so I'm glad it happened the way it did

    Were not getting an ex's season next because unless they decide to bring back Georgia there is no one to pair with Josh who we know is going to be on the show. Plus  pairing them as ex's is already a stretch.

    So many of the regulars dont have ex's i see them being able to bring on and I also dont care about people like emmenuel, Emy or nams ex's, if they even have any, and we know they will be taking up spots net season as well. 

    Were not getting an ex's season next because unless they decide to bring back Georgia there is no one to pair with Josh who we know is going to be on the show. Plus  pairing them as ex's is already a stretch.

    So many of the regulars dont have ex's i see them being able to bring on and I also dont care about people like emmenuel, Emy or nams ex's, if they even have any, and we know they will be taking up spots net season as well. 

    Esther and Josh

    Has there been any season where everyone left is so unlikable? (Other than amanda) I don't care who wins

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