The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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Ugh we could have had Bear and Devin on a season together. MTV fumbled the bag there.

Bear being banned was one of the best things that ever happened to the show--he was Josh-level bad

it feels like we have no vets left lol

 

 

 

I feel like a ton of love from the fans is what makes these people crack. Their egos overflate and then think they are untouchable with the rest of the cast and even production - then BOOM off the deep end. 

I wanted to agree but then there is Bananas.

not the best example to use

Bananas is off in the deep end?? Was he forced to lay low? I thought he was just being a coward and sat some shit out lol

nah im sayin like hes super egotistical and walks around like his shit doesnt stink in real life lmao. like he gets offended when regular people dont know who he is.

 

 

Georgia, Bear, and Dee were set to be the faces of this show then the in between season stuff happenned.

All these annoying non-americans and non-originals

There are plenty of annoying Americans lol

But isn't the challenge an American show lol. An American show with all British faces

I am not saying they can't join. But the majority of the show's face being British...MTV US have enough non-annoying Americans who can be squeezed into that line up lol

it feels like we have no vets left lol

theyll just run the current crop into the ground

 

it feels like we have no vets left lol

theyll just run the current crop into the ground

until the crazy fans find more shit on the international folks lol

Someone mentioned CT and how he was perceived by castmates. If you believe Kenny, he said MTV gave CT this big, scary, bad boy edit but they weren't scared of him. He said CT would show up in the house coked out of his mind and no one took him seriously. He said he punked him a few times. And he said they didn't show how Frank from Vegas on Gauntlet 3 straight punked CT and CT wanted no smoke with him.

The problem is that most of the other vets they didn't use the past 2 years likely won't return so we only get recycled casting or rookies.

I found Georgia soooooo annoying. lol. The combination of voice/accent/loud mouth and personality was just so grating to me when she was onscreen, sorry.

Same.

Wes is right. Production needs to guide people with potential to be a liability off the show

Ugh we could have had Bear and Devin on a season together. MTV fumbled the bag there.

Bear fumbled his own Bag

Someone mentioned CT and how he was perceived by castmates. If you believe Kenny, he said MTV gave CT this big, scary, bad boy edit but they weren't scared of him. He said CT would show up in the house coked out of his mind and no one took him seriously. He said he punked him a few times. And he said they didn't show how Frank from Vegas on Gauntlet 3 straight punked CT and CT wanted no smoke with him.

Not sure how much I believe Kenny as you indicated.  When CT went into kill mode on The Duel 2 some of those guys were scared.

Ugh we could have had Bear and Devin on a season together. MTV fumbled the bag there.

Devin Wouldnt have been on Double agents if it wasn't for Bear, Rogan and Jordan stuff

Someone mentioned CT and how he was perceived by castmates. If you believe Kenny, he said MTV gave CT this big, scary, bad boy edit but they weren't scared of him. He said CT would show up in the house coked out of his mind and no one took him seriously. He said he punked him a few times. And he said they didn't show how Frank from Vegas on Gauntlet 3 straight punked CT and CT wanted no smoke with him.

ive heard this as well, they was like by the time rivals came around most of the vet guys did not care about CT's tough guy persona

I found Georgia soooooo annoying. lol. The combination of voice/accent/loud mouth and personality was just so grating to me when she was onscreen, sorry.

No need to be sorry. I liked Georgia because she was a solid competitor and was there to play the game.  Georgia without Bear would have been fine with me.  Accents don't bother me--give me subtitles if needed lol but I understand why you and others didn't like her from the start.

Someone mentioned CT and how he was perceived by castmates. If you believe Kenny, he said MTV gave CT this big, scary, bad boy edit but they weren't scared of him. He said CT would show up in the house coked out of his mind and no one took him seriously. He said he punked him a few times. And he said they didn't show how Frank from Vegas on Gauntlet 3 straight punked CT and CT wanted no smoke with him.

ive heard this as well, they was like by the time rivals came around most of the vet guys did not care about CT's tough guy persona

Well, to be fair, by the time Rivals happened CT knew if he did anything he'd be gone for good.

that could be a factor. 

Someone mentioned CT and how he was perceived by castmates. If you believe Kenny, he said MTV gave CT this big, scary, bad boy edit but they weren't scared of him. He said CT would show up in the house coked out of his mind and no one took him seriously. He said he punked him a few times. And he said they didn't show how Frank from Vegas on Gauntlet 3 straight punked CT and CT wanted no smoke with him.

I mean there are a lot of big guys there that could hold their own so I don't doubt that they weren't that scared of him. CT only punked people half his size so none of it was like "impressive" per say. 

I would say most castmembers found it uncomfortable that he would get so ****** up and fly off the handle. Regardless of who you are or how big you are, someone like that is dangerous if they do something stupid. Hence why no one wanted him there after Duel 2.

I actually found a couple scenes like when he was ****** up and basically him and Marlon were wrestling and drowning each other to be more worrying than entertaining. All it would take is a weird bump to the head/neck and this show could've been cancelled and a horror story instead of a long-standing show.

The fact that they now get DQed for words but CT didn't get DQed for that back in the day just shows how much more careful they are.

 

Why hasn't laural come back? Did she decide to take a break?

I could have sworn people speculated she was trying to come back because she randomly publicly admitted to saying the N word before (like in a rap or something)

Laurel only returns when her real life commitments allow (school, work, etc). 

Though who knows if she'd be allowed because of tweets like 10,000 years ago. 

yeah and laurel tweets are still up too so i feel like she's not coming back :/ 

 

Someone mentioned CT and how he was perceived by castmates. If you believe Kenny, he said MTV gave CT this big, scary, bad boy edit but they weren't scared of him. He said CT would show up in the house coked out of his mind and no one took him seriously. He said he punked him a few times. And he said they didn't show how Frank from Vegas on Gauntlet 3 straight punked CT and CT wanted no smoke with him.

ive heard this as well, they was like by the time rivals came around most of the vet guys did not care about CT's tough guy persona

Well, to be fair, by the time Rivals happened CT knew if he did anything he'd be gone for good.

He did very similar things still in later seasons - see the example with him and Marlon

Laurel will come back. They don't care. She didn't even say anything racist. People are too sensitive and need to calm down. This is another reason why this show is getting boring and we're stuck with people like Kaycee

Laurel will come back. They don't care. She didn't even say anything racist. People are too sensitive and need to calm down. This is another reason why this show is getting boring and we're stuck with people like Kaycee

I agree. Let them apologize and move on if it's just a stupid tweet. People should be allowed the opportunity to own up to their mistakes. Even though he's a ******, I thought Rogan handled his situation well.

Their cancelling has gotten to be way too much. Not saying everyone should be back, Bear should absolutely be cancelled. Some tweets from like 2010... well now we have pretty much no castmembers so idk lol

Someone mentioned CT and how he was perceived by castmates. If you believe Kenny, he said MTV gave CT this big, scary, bad boy edit but they weren't scared of him. He said CT would show up in the house coked out of his mind and no one took him seriously. He said he punked him a few times.

  

Kenny said what? 

LOL I would believe that if we didn't see CT choke the shit out of him during the Gauntlet 2 (or 3). By "punked him", he meant he accidently made CT's nose bleed and then CT had him on the floor and he needed the other castmates to get CT off of him because he couldn't do it himself lol/

And if Dual 2 and the way they couldn't handle him didn't happen, I would believe him lol.  You can only blame so much on editing. Its funny because some argue the opposite, that CT was worse and MTV spared him with editing. So, which is it? I do think CT was more sensitive than he led on, only because of the way he was on real world paris. You see him at his most vulnerable. However, even in real world Paris he talked about how he liked to fight and took up boxing and he did show that he can be agressive there.

Life's too short to act like CT wasn't an agressive person, and being on drugs and alcohol makes it worse. You are a fool if you think someone like that, is someone to play with and thats probably how Kenny ended up in that position in those photos above

 

 

Someone mentioned CT and how he was perceived by castmates. If you believe Kenny, he said MTV gave CT this big, scary, bad boy edit but they weren't scared of him. He said CT would show up in the house coked out of his mind and no one took him seriously. He said he punked him a few times. And he said they didn't show how Frank from Vegas on Gauntlet 3 straight punked CT and CT wanted no smoke with him.

ive heard this as well, they was like by the time rivals came around most of the vet guys did not care about CT's tough guy persona

Well, to be fair, by the time Rivals happened CT knew if he did anything he'd be gone for good.

He did very similar things still in later seasons - see the example with him and Marlon

The CT Marlon thing was nothing IMO. Definitely not old CT level. 

Why does that look like a cut from a **** lmaooo

Makes it funnier now especially since Kenny is *you know*

The CT Marlon thing was nothing IMO. Definitely not old CT level. 

It was pretty bad lol like dumb drunk idiots fighting and getting way too aggressive around a wet slippery pool sounds like a recipe for disaster like I said but to each their own

Why does that look like a cut from a **** lmaooo

Makes it funnier now especially since Kenny is *you know*

It does lmaooo.

 

Tea- We need water to survive jk jk

Anywho, I personally wouldn't make predictions yet there is still plenty of time before 38 for someone past to come back to hunt them or one of them losing their mind on social media.

Smh... shoutout to my Survivor favs Jay and Natalie... they would've made 37 so much better. 

Why does that look like a cut from a **** lmaooo

Makes it funnier now especially since Kenny is *you know*

lmaoo im dead *****, id watch that on the lowkey ahhahaha, they both like some peen here and there so im with it, way better than unpassionate g4p tops like gabo

 

Someone mentioned CT and how he was perceived by castmates. If you believe Kenny, he said MTV gave CT this big, scary, bad boy edit but they weren't scared of him. He said CT would show up in the house coked out of his mind and no one took him seriously. He said he punked him a few times.

  

Kenny said what? 

LOL I would believe that if we didn't see CT choke the shit out of him during the Gauntlet 2 (or 3). By "punked him", he meant he accidently made CT's nose bleed and then CT had him on the floor and he needed the other castmates to get CT off of him because he couldn't do it himself lol/

And if Dual 2 and the way they couldn't handle him didn't happen, I would believe him lol.  You can only blame so much on editing. Its funny because some argue the opposite, that CT was worse and MTV spared him with editing. So, which is it? I do think CT was more sensitive than he led on, only because of the way he was on real world paris. You see him at his most vulnerable. However, even in real world Paris he talked about how he liked to fight and took up boxing and he did show that he can be agressive there.

Life's too short to act like CT wasn't an agressive person, and being on drugs and alcohol makes it worse. You are a fool if you think someone like that, is someone to play with and thats probably how Kenny ended up in that position in those photos above

LMAO THE PICS GOT ME SCREAMING 

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