The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies (Cast discussion)

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But what's the current AYTO scandal?

The Gianna situation going public

https://pagesix.com/2021/04/18/ayto-star-gianna-hammer-claims-sexual-assault-on-mtv-set/

It would be a huge gamble because she'd also have a real good shot at winning.

I'm so excited for this, I have a good solid 4 or 5 people I can root for!

did cydney get a call?

Probably not. Sad

 

 

If Missy is on the cast the amount of backlash MTV will get would be endless after the Current AYTO scandal on the media

im not all the way sure about the events, but missy dfidnt have anything to do with the situation right? she was just trying to use it as gameplay 

Idk much about the situation other than the stuff I have read online. But this would be the type of backlash they will get:

https://twitter.com/chelsiecheney89/status/1194918041085104129?s=21

Which isn't a good look based on the current stuff that is happening with Gianna and how MTV handle that situation. 

People stay only blaming missy and Elizabeth when most of the cast went along with it. Production should have intervened way before it reached the point it did

It's too much going on today lmaooooo

What I will say about this Lauren ***** since it's come to light she played a big part in that Wes and Da'vonne situation I want that ***** job to get terminated ASAP I wish nothing but the worst for that woman  

I'm so sick of white racist producers ruining this show I'm tired 

Fire all of them 

 

 

 

If Missy is on the cast the amount of backlash MTV will get would be endless after the Current AYTO scandal on the media

im not all the way sure about the events, but missy dfidnt have anything to do with the situation right? she was just trying to use it as gameplay 

Idk much about the situation other than the stuff I have read online. But this would be the type of backlash they will get:

https://twitter.com/chelsiecheney89/status/1194918041085104129?s=21

Which isn't a good look based on the current stuff that is happening with Gianna and how MTV handle that situation. 

People stay only blaming missy and Elizabeth when most of the cast went along with it. Production should have intervened way before it reached the point it did

Yeah, I agree.

But MTV would be shooting themselves on the leg if they were to cast someone involved in the whole thing even if it was in a small magnitude especially when they are currently getting heat over a similar scandal on their network and how poorly they handle it. If she is one of the mixing pieces I can see it getting the same faith as Analyse.

 

 

 

 

It's kinda crazy when the casting pool at this point is basically the whole planet and they can't (or more likely won't) find anyone to beat a 40 year old CT. And how the **** did they use to only have 2 shows to cast from and we got Landon, Alton, Miz, Darrell, Abe, etc. who would all clap every guy on this cast even today in their 40s. 

it's honestly so depressing. how did CT and John win back-to-back seasons (WotW2 and TM)? clearly the men they're casting don't really have a chance if they can't beat these men pushing 40 - John who's short (5' 8") and CT who has the dadbod. it's pathetic that Kyle, Fessy, Cory, Nelson, Paulie can't stack up against these people who have been playing for 15 years. makes me sick.

can we get people who can actually beat them back please? Rogan Joss Hunter Turbo Jordan.

however, I AM optimistic about the men this season. they look like some prime muscle (compared to small skinny dudes like Jay Swaggy Asaf Lio Mechie)

 

now why yall acting like ct and john are dominating these guys? if it was one on one they would be getting smoked. they have benefitted from the skull twist. johns win all he had to do was go up against a washed up wes to get to the final and ct josh. now when this skull twist ends and they are taking ppl out in elimnations, then you can say that

No one is going to."smoke" CT. The goal is to win. They still are.  This is why we need better strategic players. Though we agree the skull twist is dumb. 

theres a reason ct was begging for josh.

Strategic move. Smart move. 

I'm so sick of white racist producers ruining this show I'm tired 

Fire all of them 

She has been a ***** to a lot of the girls not just Davonne. She is the one always threatening them and being condescending to them.

 

 

 

 

If Missy is on the cast the amount of backlash MTV will get would be endless after the Current AYTO scandal on the media

im not all the way sure about the events, but missy dfidnt have anything to do with the situation right? she was just trying to use it as gameplay 

Idk much about the situation other than the stuff I have read online. But this would be the type of backlash they will get:

https://twitter.com/chelsiecheney89/status/1194918041085104129?s=21

Which isn't a good look based on the current stuff that is happening with Gianna and how MTV handle that situation. 

People stay only blaming missy and Elizabeth when most of the cast went along with it. Production should have intervened way before it reached the point it did

Yeah, I agree.

But MTV would be shooting themselves on the leg if they were to cast someone involved in the whole thing even if it was in a small magnitude especially when they are currently getting heat over a similar scandal on their network and how poorly they handle it. 

If that's true then it makes sense to cut tommy as well.

 

I'm so sick of white racist producers ruining this show I'm tired 

Fire all of them 

She has been a ***** to a lot of the girls not just Davonne. She is the one always threatening them and being condescending to them.

what did she do? I feel like I knew but forgot lol. Is she the one that was in the hosts ear at the reunion?

 

 

 

 

 

If Missy is on the cast the amount of backlash MTV will get would be endless after the Current AYTO scandal on the media

im not all the way sure about the events, but missy dfidnt have anything to do with the situation right? she was just trying to use it as gameplay 

Idk much about the situation other than the stuff I have read online. But this would be the type of backlash they will get:

https://twitter.com/chelsiecheney89/status/1194918041085104129?s=21

Which isn't a good look based on the current stuff that is happening with Gianna and how MTV handle that situation. 

People stay only blaming missy and Elizabeth when most of the cast went along with it. Production should have intervened way before it reached the point it did

Yeah, I agree.

But MTV would be shooting themselves on the leg if they were to cast someone involved in the whole thing even if it was in a small magnitude especially when they are currently getting heat over a similar scandal on their network and how poorly they handle it. 

If that's true then it makes sense to cut tommy as well.

Why?  Because he was on the season? lol

Is she the one Camila punched? 

It's kinda crazy when the casting pool at this point is basically the whole planet and they can't (or more likely won't) find anyone to beat a 40 year old CT. And how the **** did they use to only have 2 shows to cast from and we got Landon, Alton, Miz, Darrell, Abe, etc. who would all clap every guy on this cast even today in their 40s. 

It's hard to win a show that clearly caters to their favorites. Wins on this show lost value a long time ago. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If Missy is on the cast the amount of backlash MTV will get would be endless after the Current AYTO scandal on the media

im not all the way sure about the events, but missy dfidnt have anything to do with the situation right? she was just trying to use it as gameplay 

Idk much about the situation other than the stuff I have read online. But this would be the type of backlash they will get:

https://twitter.com/chelsiecheney89/status/1194918041085104129?s=21

Which isn't a good look based on the current stuff that is happening with Gianna and how MTV handle that situation. 

People stay only blaming missy and Elizabeth when most of the cast went along with it. Production should have intervened way before it reached the point it did

Yeah, I agree.

But MTV would be shooting themselves on the leg if they were to cast someone involved in the whole thing even if it was in a small magnitude especially when they are currently getting heat over a similar scandal on their network and how poorly they handle it. 

If that's true then it makes sense to cut tommy as well.

Why?  Because he was on the season? lol

Because he did just as much as missy. 

 

did cydney get a call?

Probably not.

we all lost 

 

It's kinda crazy when the casting pool at this point is basically the whole planet and they can't (or more likely won't) find anyone to beat a 40 year old CT. And how the **** did they use to only have 2 shows to cast from and we got Landon, Alton, Miz, Darrell, Abe, etc. who would all clap every guy on this cast even today in their 40s. 

It's hard to win a show that clearly caters to their favorites. Wins on this show lost value a long time ago. 

yup especially with his hand delivered Diamond Power of Veto

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If Missy is on the cast the amount of backlash MTV will get would be endless after the Current AYTO scandal on the media

im not all the way sure about the events, but missy dfidnt have anything to do with the situation right? she was just trying to use it as gameplay 

Idk much about the situation other than the stuff I have read online. But this would be the type of backlash they will get:

https://twitter.com/chelsiecheney89/status/1194918041085104129?s=21

Which isn't a good look based on the current stuff that is happening with Gianna and how MTV handle that situation. 

People stay only blaming missy and Elizabeth when most of the cast went along with it. Production should have intervened way before it reached the point it did

Yeah, I agree.

But MTV would be shooting themselves on the leg if they were to cast someone involved in the whole thing even if it was in a small magnitude especially when they are currently getting heat over a similar scandal on their network and how poorly they handle it. 

If that's true then it makes sense to cut tommy as well.

Why?  Because he was on the season? lol

Because he did just as much as missy. 

Not even close he never used Kelly stuff as gameplay like Missy and Elizabeth did. They did what Lauren zins did to Gianna.

Laura needs to be fired IMMEDIATELY. I don't see that happening but at this point, it has to be done like this is the final straw. 

Why?  Because he was on the season? lol

Because he did just as much as missy. 

Tommy told Janet he felt unsafe then changed his vote?  Why did Tommy feel unsafe?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If Missy is on the cast the amount of backlash MTV will get would be endless after the Current AYTO scandal on the media

im not all the way sure about the events, but missy dfidnt have anything to do with the situation right? she was just trying to use it as gameplay 

Idk much about the situation other than the stuff I have read online. But this would be the type of backlash they will get:

https://twitter.com/chelsiecheney89/status/1194918041085104129?s=21

Which isn't a good look based on the current stuff that is happening with Gianna and how MTV handle that situation. 

People stay only blaming missy and Elizabeth when most of the cast went along with it. Production should have intervened way before it reached the point it did

Yeah, I agree.

But MTV would be shooting themselves on the leg if they were to cast someone involved in the whole thing even if it was in a small magnitude especially when they are currently getting heat over a similar scandal on their network and how poorly they handle it. 

If that's true then it makes sense to cut tommy as well.

Why?  Because he was on the season? lol

Because he did just as much as missy. 

Not even close he never used Kelly stuff as gameplay like Missy and Elizabeth did. They did what Lauren zins did to Gianna.

Yes he did, he chose to go along with it, missy and Elizabeth are 2 people, they alone couldn't vote ssomeone out, he went along with it despite him saying he was close to Kellie 

Not even close he never used Kelly stuff as gameplay like Missy and Elizabeth did. They did what Lauren zins did to Gianna.

The key right there

I really think some people are terrified if Tommy isn't an alternate he'll dominate so they're just making up stuff now

Yes he did, he chose to go along with it, missy and Elizabeth are 2 people, they alone couldn't vote ssomeone out, he went along with it despite him saying he was close to Kellie 

****

Absolutely no one thinks Tommy is on the level of Missy/Elizabeth when it comes to the Dan/Kellee situation. Just because you think hes boring doesnt mean you need to do this. Just stop lol hes not even gonna be on this season

 

Not even close he never used Kelly stuff as gameplay like Missy and Elizabeth did. They did what Lauren zins did to Gianna.

The key right there

I really think some people are terrified if Tommy isn't an alternate he'll dominate so they're just making up stuff now

I really don't think anyone cares that much about Tommy lol we just don't want him on the show cause he's boring as 

The fact that y'all go back & forth with KVM all day is the funniest part of this site. Y'all gotta realize that y'all don't owe him an explanation nor response. 

Absolutely no one thinks Tommy is on the level of Missy/Elizabeth when it comes to the Dan/Kellee situation. Just because you think hes boring doesnt mean you need to do this. Just stop lol hes not even gonna be on this season

Not even close he never used Kelly stuff as gameplay like Missy and Elizabeth did. They did what Lauren zins did to Gianna.

The key right there

I really think some people are terrified if Tommy isn't an alternate he'll dominate so they're just making up stuff now

I really don't think anyone cares that much about Tommy lol we just don't want him on the show cause he's boring as 

For you that's true--for others it isn't

Absolutely no one thinks Tommy is on the level of Missy/Elizabeth when it comes to the Dan/Kellee situation. Just because you think hes boring doesnt mean you need to do this. Just stop lol hes not even gonna be on this season

I think everyone who went along with it is just as much to blame as missy & Elizabeth, it's unfair to only blame them just because they thought about it. This really isnt even about tommy. 

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