I do wish there were better competitors to go against CT. I do not trust Fessy/Cory etc to beat him/target him early like they should. I wish Hunter,Paulie,Joss,Theo,Turbo etc were still in the mix
What I will say about this Lauren ***** since it's come to light she played a big part in that Wes and Da'vonne situation I want that ***** job to get terminated ASAP I wish nothing but the worst for that woman
Absolutely no one thinks Tommy is on the level of Missy/Elizabeth when it comes to the Dan/Kellee situation. Just because you think hes boring doesnt mean you need to do this. Just stop lol hes not even gonna be on this season
I think everyone who went along with it is just as much to blame as missy & Elizabeth, it's unfair to only blame them just because they thought about it. This really isnt even about tommy.
Went along with what though? What do you think these people knew (including Tommy) that they went along with? I'm fine with being in the minority but I don't even have a major issue with Missy but I can see why they wouldn't cast her over it. I don't see any reason to eliminate anyone else over that.
The fact that y'all go back & forth with KVM all day is the funniest part of this site. Y'all gotta realize that y'all don't owe him an explanation nor response.
Absolutely no one thinks Tommy is on the level of Missy/Elizabeth when it comes to the Dan/Kellee situation. Just because you think hes boring doesnt mean you need to do this. Just stop lol hes not even gonna be on this season
I think everyone who went along with it is just as much to blame as missy & Elizabeth, it's unfair to only blame them just because they thought about it. This really isnt even about tommy.
Went along with what though? What do you think these people knew (including Tommy) that they went along with? I'm fine with being in the minority but I don't even have a major issue with Missy but I can see why they wouldn't cast her over it. I don't see any reason to eliminate anyone else over that.
Everyone who voted out Kellie shares the same responsibility to me(to me it isnt much) , yet people act like it was just missy & Elizabeth. That's what's annoying. Personally I don't think it's as amoral as everyone makes it out to be and the only real person who should get any blame is Dan but if people are up in arms about missy then they should keep the same energy for all parties.
Absolutely no one thinks Tommy is on the level of Missy/Elizabeth when it comes to the Dan/Kellee situation. Just because you think hes boring doesnt mean you need to do this. Just stop lol hes not even gonna be on this season
I think everyone who went along with it is just as much to blame as missy & Elizabeth, it's unfair to only blame them just because they thought about it. This really isnt even about tommy.
Went along with what though? What do you think these people knew (including Tommy) that they went along with? I'm fine with being in the minority but I don't even have a major issue with Missy but I can see why they wouldn't cast her over it. I don't see any reason to eliminate anyone else over that.
Everyone who voted out Kellie shares the same responsibility to me(to me it isnt much) , yet people act like it was just missy & Elizabeth. That's what's annoying. Personally I don't think it's as amoral as everyone makes it out to be and the only real person who should get any blame is Dan but if people are up in arms about missy then they should keep the same energy for all parties.
I agree--I blame Dan solely. But Missy and Elizabeth definitely take more responsibility than the others as they said they were unsafe and used it for game. No one else said they felt unsafe. I feel like that is where the "energy" is coming from. You're the first I've heard try to criticize Tommy or anyone else but the two that blatantly lied to use it to benefit their game.
I do wish there were better competitors to go against CT. I do not trust Fessy/Cory etc to beat him/target him early like they should. I wish Hunter,Paulie,Joss,Theo,Turbo etc were still in the mix
The only people I see beating CT from that list is Theo and Turbo ****
The fact that all these other people are getting blamed for what Dan did to Kellee is disgusting.
Yep.. Dan and the producers are responsible. However the players handled that situation need to be blamed on the producers.
Yup but fans dont see it that way, which is why we probably won't see missy despite the fact she'd bring a lot to this show. I've seen people more outraged with two women than the entire production team who sat by and did nothing while watching this happen.
The fact that all these other people are getting blamed for what Dan did to Kellee is disgusting.
Yep.. Dan and the producers are responsible. However the players handled that situation need to be blamed on the producers.
Yup but fans dont see it that way, which is why we probably won't see missy despite the fact she'd bring a lot to this show. I've seen people more outraged with two women than the entire production team who sat by and did nothing while watching this happen.
exactly if they are so "outraged" they should've held the show accountable and stopped watching right then and there
and its weird how aaron and missy are the most hated from their season when that cast as a whole was pretty bad ****. but ofc the two black people take all the blame.
I do wish there were better competitors to go against CT. I do not trust Fessy/Cory etc to beat him/target him early like they should. I wish Hunter,Paulie,Joss,Theo,Turbo etc were still in the mix
and they also need to stop rigging too. As been said this show caters to their prized ***** and it's hard to win with such biased production.
So is Missy that missing person that was going to upset people, that everyone was speculating was kkchristmas or sarah? Or did PR just want to shift the tommy specific bickering to island of the idols bickering?
I do wish there were better competitors to go against CT. I do not trust Fessy/Cory etc to beat him/target him early like they should. I wish Hunter,Paulie,Joss,Theo,Turbo etc were still in the mix
THIS!!! ALL OF THIS
One of the positives I can take from this cast is that there's no way KC or Faysal are going to get to the end.
Yea we definitely not getting a ayto debut this season
Went along with what though? What do you think these people knew (including Tommy) that they went along with? I'm fine with being in the minority but I don't even have a major issue with Missy but I can see why they wouldn't cast her over it. I don't see any reason to eliminate anyone else over that.
I just read pages of nonsense.
Maybe that ban should've lasted a while longer........
Everyone who voted out Kellie shares the same responsibility to me(to me it isnt much) , yet people act like it was just missy & Elizabeth. That's what's annoying. Personally I don't think it's as amoral as everyone makes it out to be and the only real person who should get any blame is Dan but if people are up in arms about missy then they should keep the same energy for all parties.
I don't see how you arrived there tbh, shes probably the top girl this season and besides Michaela I don't see the rookie girls challenging that
Don;t engage if you don't want actual discussion
It just be funny to me that he be replying to any and every post until someone finally engages with him.
it needs to happen, but watch it not happen
The fact that all these other people are getting blamed for what Dan did to Kellee is disgusting.
Yep.. Dan and the producers are responsible. However the players handled that situation need to be blamed on the producers.
I agree--I blame Dan solely. But Missy and Elizabeth definitely take more responsibility than the others as they said they were unsafe and used it for game. No one else said they felt unsafe. I feel like that is where the "energy" is coming from. You're the first I've heard try to criticize Tommy or anyone else but the two that blatantly lied to use it to benefit their game.
Facts
The only people I see beating CT from that list is Theo and Turbo ****
Yup but fans dont see it that way, which is why we probably won't see missy despite the fact she'd bring a lot to this show. I've seen people more outraged with two women than the entire production team who sat by and did nothing while watching this happen.
people forget paulie is cara's height, I really wanna see him in a physical elimination ****
exactly if they are so "outraged" they should've held the show accountable and stopped watching right then and there
Y'all gotta learn to take some of these debates to the dm, no one wants to scroll through all that.
and its weird how aaron and missy are the most hated from their season when that cast as a whole was pretty bad ****. but ofc the two black people take all the blame.
and they also need to stop rigging too. As been said this show caters to their prized ***** and it's hard to win with such biased production.
So is Missy that missing person that was going to upset people, that everyone was speculating was kkchristmas or sarah? Or did PR just want to shift the tommy specific bickering to island of the idols bickering?
I see them getting ganged up on eventually, unless this cast decides to be idiots.
yikes that ayto situation getting picked up by national talk shows
oof
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