@Debut you hit the nail on the head with the last sentence
Completely true and they willingly did sabotage AYTO with whom they choose first
Yep.
That's why I think that's one reason people like Turbo/Theo/Paulie hasn't been back. They were strong likeable/interesting competitors who could bring it and could really take it to their pets if they wanted. Yeah there were other factors obviously but I think that's one reason, Not tomention that there's a whole heap of people out there who hasn't been on this show that would be good for it and could really make their pets look like the shit they are if MTV got behind them.
I always can't help imagining what this show could be if production stopped giving a shit about Johnny, CT & Wes, who in reality are nobodies. They have an entire planet of reality stars to choose from and they intentionally cast shit people because they don't want their 'stars' to be outshined. I'm not even a Paulie fan but he's more than earned his spot as a regular both compeitively and entertainment wise
@Debut you hit the nail on the head with the last sentence
Completely true and they willingly did sabotage AYTO with whom they choose first
Yep.
That's why I think that's one reason people like Turbo/Theo/Paulie hasn't been back. They were strong likeable/interesting competitors who could bring it and could really take it to their pets if they wanted. Yeah there were other factors obviously but I think that's one reason, Not tomention that there's a whole heap of people out there who hasn't been on this show that would be good for it and could really make their pets look like the shit they are if MTV got behind them.
I always can't help imagining what this show could be if production stopped giving a shit about Johnny, CT & Wes, who in reality are nobodies. They have an entire planet of reality stars to choose from and they intentionally cast shit people because they don't want their 'stars' to be outshined. I'm not even a Paulie fan but he's more than earned his spot as a regular both compeitively and entertainment wise
First off thank you for reconizing that Paulie is good for this show. So many people just refuse to do that for some reason.
Secondly..See that's what makes me mad at them when it comes to casting. They litterally have the entire RTV world at their fingertips for this show and yet we're STILL dealing with three ***** that debuted basically 2 decades ago? And they're still actively catering to those ***** too? Like come the **** on MTV.
I mean CT Wes and John remain, like Aneesa, because it gives the show ties to the past plus they have fan bases. It isn't tough to figure out. Just because we're tired of them doesn't mean everyone is
I'm all for CJ returning for a season and seeing how it goes. We don't need everyone causing drama and gameplay itself causes drama. See him targeting Wes on Seasons and his argument with Chef. CJ isn't going to be the center of drama but some will exist around him.
I'm all for CJ returning for a season and seeing how it goes. We don't need everyone causing drama and gameplay itself causes drama. See him targeting Wes on Seasons and his argument with Chef. CJ isn't going to be the center of drama but some will exist around him.
CJ is boring and has no ties to anyone in this game. His last season was over 8 years ago and no one from battle of the seasons 2 is still doing these shows besides Nany lol. Plus hes married now and has children. He'll be a bigger bore now, move on.
CJ is boring and has no ties to anyone in this game. His last season was over 8 years ago and no one from battle of the seasons 2 is still doing these shows besides Nany lol. Plus hes married now and has children. He'll be a bigger bore now, move on.
CJ & Scott Herman are both asking to be cast now but they have zero shot of getting on. They should've done 3-5 seasons around The Ruins and Fresh Meat 2, when they were relevant. Hell, Scott would've been better on Seasons 2 than JD. They could've been champions, but they kept declining and now I have no sympathy for them. They aren't needed these days.
CJ & Scott Herman are both asking to be cast now but they have zero shot of getting on. They should've done 3-5 seasons around The Ruins and Fresh Meat 2, when they were relevant. Hell, Scott would've been better on Seasons 2 than JD. They could've been champions, but they kept declining and now I have no sympathy for them. They aren't needed these days.
Thisss. I get that they wanted to be taken seriously in whatever they were pursuing but now they wanna run back to the challenge? They were snoozes in their 20s just imagine now that their much older.
CJ is boring and has no ties to anyone in this game. His last season was over 8 years ago and no one from battle of the seasons 2 is still doing these shows besides Nany lol. Plus hes married now and has children. He'll be a bigger bore now, move on.
Wes
Wes was eliminated in the first episode on that season I doubt they were close especially today. Anyways its not like mtv is going to cast him ever again so this can end lol
CJ is boring and has no ties to anyone in this game. His last season was over 8 years ago and no one from battle of the seasons 2 is still doing these shows besides Nany lol. Plus hes married now and has children. He'll be a bigger bore now, move on.
Wes
Wes was eliminated in the first episode on that season I doubt they were close especially today. Anyways its not like mtv is going to cast him ever again so this can end lol
Close? CJ & Wes hated each other because of Fresh Meat 2--but I don't understnd what no ties has to do with anything.
CJ & Scott Herman are both asking to be cast now but they have zero shot of getting on. They should've done 3-5 seasons around The Ruins and Fresh Meat 2, when they were relevant. Hell, Scott would've been better on Seasons 2 than JD. They could've been champions, but they kept declining and now I have no sympathy for them. They aren't needed these days.
It's because The Challenge is much bigger now, bigger pay, bigger promotion, bigger exposure. So now the people who thought the challenge would hold them back in whatever they were pursuing because it was beneath them are trying to get a piece of the pie.
CJ is boring and has no ties to anyone in this game. His last season was over 8 years ago and no one from battle of the seasons 2 is still doing these shows besides Nany lol. Plus hes married now and has children. He'll be a bigger bore now, move on.
Wes
Wes was eliminated in the first episode on that season I doubt they were close especially today. Anyways its not like mtv is going to cast him ever again so this can end lol
Close? CJ & Wes hated each other because of Fresh Meat 2--but I don't understnd what no ties has to do with anything.
No ties meaning he knows no one in the game really so it would be harder for him but Im tired of yall always dicussing flops that will never get asked back on the challenge. So this is all pointless lol.
CJ & Scott Herman are both asking to be cast now but they have zero shot of getting on. They should've done 3-5 seasons around The Ruins and Fresh Meat 2, when they were relevant. Hell, Scott would've been better on Seasons 2 than JD. They could've been champions, but they kept declining and now I have no sympathy for them. They aren't needed these days.
Thisss. I get that they wanted to be taken seriously in whatever they were pursuing but now they wanna run back to the challenge? They were snoozes in their 20s just imagine now that their much older.
I'm all for CJ returning for a season and seeing how it goes. We don't need everyone causing drama and gameplay itself causes drama. See him targeting Wes on Seasons and his argument with Chef. CJ isn't going to be the center of drama but some will exist around him.
I'll give you him targeting Wes. That was interesting to watch.
But CJ's argument with Chet was about as exciting as watching paint dry. Please don't tell me otherwise.
And this is not me hating, I personally enjoy both competitors.
I'm all for CJ returning for a season and seeing how it goes. We don't need everyone causing drama and gameplay itself causes drama. See him targeting Wes on Seasons and his argument with Chef. CJ isn't going to be the center of drama but some will exist around him.
I'll give you him targeting Wes. That was interesting to watch.
But CJ's argument with Chet was about as exciting as watching paint dry. Please don't tell me otherwise.
And this is not me hating, I personally enjoy both competitors.
Oh I'm not saying CJ is fun to watch or that the argument with Chet was great TV. Just believe with the right format the game creates the drama. Plus I don't care about any of the messy drama
CJ is boring and has no ties to anyone in this game. His last season was over 8 years ago and no one from battle of the seasons 2 is still doing these shows besides Nany lol. Plus hes married now and has children. He'll be a bigger bore now, move on.
I'm all for CJ returning for a season and seeing how it goes. We don't
need everyone causing drama and gameplay itself causes drama. See him targeting Wes on Seasons and his argument with Chef. CJ isn't going to be the center of drama but some will exist around him.
I'll give you him targeting Wes. That was interesting to watch.
But CJ's argument with Chet was about as exciting as watching paint dry. Please don't tell me otherwise.
And this is not me hating, I personally enjoy both competitors.
Oh I'm not saying CJ is fun to watch or that the argument with Chet was great TV. Just believe with the right format the game creates the drama. Plus I don't care about any of the messy drama
That's why I don't want to see him coming back. Snoozefest.
At least Nam and Joss and Fessy are single. More potential for creating drama. Drama that's fun to watch.
I always can't help imagining what this show could be if production stopped giving a shit about Johnny, CT & Wes, who in reality are nobodies. They have an entire planet of reality stars to choose from and they intentionally cast shit people because they don't want their 'stars' to be outshined. I'm not even a Paulie fan but he's more than earned his spot as a regular both compeitively and entertainment wise
Put Josiah from Ex on the Beach 9 on Challenge 37, or I'm a write a letter to production *****in n complaining like bananas *** always does
First off thank you for reconizing that Paulie is good for this show. So many people just refuse to do that for some reason.
Secondly..See that's what makes me mad at them when it comes to casting. They litterally have the entire RTV world at their fingertips for this show and yet we're STILL dealing with three ***** that debuted basically 2 decades ago? And they're still actively catering to those ***** too? Like come the **** on MTV.
I mean CT Wes and John remain, like Aneesa, because it gives the show ties to the past plus they have fan bases. It isn't tough to figure out. Just because we're tired of them doesn't mean everyone is
Everyone tired of watching Anessa fail every time she comes on this show
IS there a thread to discuss the double agent trailer that came out today? I honestly enjoyed it.
Anyone know if we'll ever get the first 10 seasons on All Access?
https://twitter.com/cjkoegel/status/1336393711505313797?s=21
CJ coming back would be awesome
I fell asleep just hearing his name.
Man I liked CJ. I'd love for him to come back.
We already have Nam and Joss. No need for CJ unless he causes drama.
CJ >>> over joss & nam, drama free or not.
I'm all for CJ returning for a season and seeing how it goes. We don't need everyone causing drama and gameplay itself causes drama. See him targeting Wes on Seasons and his argument with Chef. CJ isn't going to be the center of drama but some will exist around him.
CHEF LOL
CJ is boring and has no ties to anyone in this game. His last season was over 8 years ago and no one from battle of the seasons 2 is still doing these shows besides Nany lol. Plus hes married now and has children. He'll be a bigger bore now, move on.
Wes
CJ & Scott Herman are both asking to be cast now but they have zero shot of getting on. They should've done 3-5 seasons around The Ruins and Fresh Meat 2, when they were relevant. Hell, Scott would've been better on Seasons 2 than JD. They could've been champions, but they kept declining and now I have no sympathy for them. They aren't needed these days.
Thisss. I get that they wanted to be taken seriously in whatever they were pursuing but now they wanna run back to the challenge? They were snoozes in their 20s just imagine now that their much older.
Wes was eliminated in the first episode on that season I doubt they were close especially today. Anyways its not like mtv is going to cast him ever again so this can end lol
YUCK. Give me Nam all day. He's fine af.
Close? CJ & Wes hated each other because of Fresh Meat 2--but I don't understnd what no ties has to do with anything.
It's because The Challenge is much bigger now, bigger pay, bigger promotion, bigger exposure. So now the people who thought the challenge would hold them back in whatever they were pursuing because it was beneath them are trying to get a piece of the pie.
No ties meaning he knows no one in the game really so it would be harder for him but Im tired of yall always dicussing flops that will never get asked back on the challenge. So this is all pointless lol.
and married with kids
Nam isn't bad. He's better looking than I thought he'd be.
I'll give you him targeting Wes. That was interesting to watch.
But CJ's argument with Chet was about as exciting as watching paint dry. Please don't tell me otherwise.
And this is not me hating, I personally enjoy both competitors.
Oh I'm not saying CJ is fun to watch or that the argument with Chet was great TV. Just believe with the right format the game creates the drama. Plus I don't care about any of the messy drama
This
That's why I don't want to see him coming back. Snoozefest.
At least Nam and Joss and Fessy are single. More potential for creating drama. Drama that's fun to watch.
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