So who's the new female of the challenge now that cara has soured production. Is it nany?
Isnt Nany the profile pic on their socials? Plus Tori, Kailah, Nany did the promo for TM so I'd say Nany for now.
Tori a flop that would be embarrassing for the Face of the Challenge.
Well the three male faces go home early on half their seasons too. Bananas literally went 0-7 in eliminations in a 6 season span, which I'm almost certain is a record
well with Dee and Georgia and Bayleigh done, I'd say Kam and Tori. and as exciting as the season 36 debuts are (Lolo and Natalie A I mean), I don't see many of them sticking around for very long. maybe Amber B? though I have no idea how she does this season (this is a non-spoiler thread so don't tell me) and I didn't watch BB16 either
It's time for another Fresh meat season. Those always gave us great regulars.
1. No
2. No the **** they didn't. Most if not all the fresh meat were either useless or horrible. Not to mention the seasons themselves were mediocre as ****. We don't need another group of people to **** up this show to high ****. No. Thank. You.
It's time for another Fresh meat season. Those always gave us great regulars.
1. No
2. No the **** they didn't. Most if not all the fresh meat were either useless or horrible. Not to mention the seasons themselves were mediocre as ****. We don't need another group of people to **** up this show to high ****. No. Thank. You.
Dude, it's 2020 already. We admire the consistency but Real World and Road Rules are dead so the Fresh Meat hate is now officially beating a dead horse. The Fresh Meat and all these other reality shows are here to stay. They have to if they wanna keep this show alive.
It's time for another Fresh meat season. Those always gave us great regulars.
1. No
2. No the **** they didn't. Most if not all the fresh meat were either useless or horrible. Not to mention the seasons themselves were mediocre as ****. We don't need another group of people to **** up this show to high ****. No. Thank. You.
Dude, it's 2020 already. We admire the consistency but Real World and Road Rules are dead so the Fresh Meat hate is now officially beating a dead horse. The Fresh Meat and all these other reality shows are here to stay. They have to if they wanna keep this show alive.
@Psy4Potato
You should use this response whenever he goes on his rants about how "THERE ARE TOO MANY RANDOMS!!!! VERONICA WILL SAVE THIS SHOW!!!!" like he does almost every time he comments on here
Tori really embarrassed herself on TM losing to Jenna who didn't even want to be there, after WOTW2 she was probably one of the favourites to win and flopped. Even worse that it was early on so she only had so many episodes. She'd have been better off being like Josh, Kyle, Nany, Mel & Bayeligh who waited until the end and got over a dozen episodes. She needs to really prove herself as someone who can stay in the came if she wants to continure to be cast ever season, nevermind a female face, she doesn't have the repuation of someone like Ashley who can always come back since she's won twice and is a dramatic personality
Tori really embarrassed herself on TM losing to Jenna who didn't even want to be there, after WOTW2 she was probably one of the favourites to win and flopped. Even worse that it was early on so she only had so many episodes. She'd have been better off being like Josh, Kyle, Nany, Mel & Bayeligh who waited until the end and got over a dozen episodes. She needs to really prove herself as someone who can stay in the came if she wants to continure to be cast ever season, nevermind a female face, she doesn't have the repuation of someone like Ashley who can always come back since she's won twice and is a dramatic personality
You're confused--you're factoring in what you care about it. Watch the trailer--production loves Tori. She could go home early ever season and they'll still want her to be the face. Tori will be on the cast any time she's willing.
Tori really embarrassed herself on TM losing to Jenna who didn't even want to be there, after WOTW2 she was probably one of the favourites to win and flopped. Even worse that it was early on so she only had so many episodes. She'd have been better off being like Josh, Kyle, Nany, Mel & Bayeligh who waited until the end and got over a dozen episodes. She needs to really prove herself as someone who can stay in the came if she wants to continure to be cast ever season, nevermind a female face, she doesn't have the repuation of someone like Ashley who can always come back since she's won twice and is a dramatic personality
You're confused--you're factoring in what you care about it. Watch the trailer--production loves Tori. She could go home early ever season and they'll still want her to be the face. Tori will be on the cast any time she's willing.
If she were to leave early on 36, come back for 37 and lose early again her days as a regular are as good as done. Wes, Bananas, CT & Ashley are the only current regulars who can flop in the first few episodes and not have it effect their standing. But a run to the finals or even a coupe elimination wins and a good storyline this season would secure her future
Tori really embarrassed herself on TM losing to Jenna who didn't even want to be there, after WOTW2 she was probably one of the favourites to win and flopped. Even worse that it was early on so she only had so many episodes. She'd have been better off being like Josh, Kyle, Nany, Mel & Bayeligh who waited until the end and got over a dozen episodes. She needs to really prove herself as someone who can stay in the came if she wants to continure to be cast ever season, nevermind a female face, she doesn't have the repuation of someone like Ashley who can always come back since she's won twice and is a dramatic personality
You're confused--you're factoring in what you care about it. Watch the trailer--production loves Tori. She could go home early ever season and they'll still want her to be the face. Tori will be on the cast any time she's willing.
If she were to leave early on 36, come back for 37 and lose early again her days as a regular are as good as done. Wes, Bananas, CT & Ashley are the only current regulars who can flop in the first few episodes and not have it effect their standing. But a run to the finals or even a coupe elimination wins and a good storyline this season would secure her future
We disagree --the trailer IMO tells you that you're wrong. She could go out earlythis season, next season and the following season and they'd still want her
Tori really embarrassed herself on TM losing to Jenna who didn't even want to be there, after WOTW2 she was probably one of the favourites to win and flopped. Even worse that it was early on so she only had so many episodes. She'd have been better off being like Josh, Kyle, Nany, Mel & Bayeligh who waited until the end and got over a dozen episodes. She needs to really prove herself as someone who can stay in the came if she wants to continure to be cast ever season, nevermind a female face, she doesn't have the repuation of someone like Ashley who can always come back since she's won twice and is a dramatic personality
You're confused--you're factoring in what you care about it. Watch the trailer--production loves Tori. She could go home early ever season and they'll still want her to be the face. Tori will be on the cast any time she's willing.
If she were to leave early on 36, come back for 37 and lose early again her days as a regular are as good as done. Wes, Bananas, CT & Ashley are the only current regulars who can flop in the first few episodes and not have it effect their standing. But a run to the finals or even a coupe elimination wins and a good storyline this season would secure her future
We disagree --the trailer IMO tells you that you're wrong. She could go out earlythis season, next season and the following season and they'd still want her
She is probably the casuals' favourite female, which is why she's been on three straight and is featured in trailers and on the podcast. But I question how much they'll care about her if she doesn't put up another WOTW2 level season soon, their attention spans are pretty short for people not named Bananas or CT. She could end up being a Nany where every episode she's getting roasted on twitter for flopping every season
Tori really embarrassed herself on TM losing to Jenna who didn't even want to be there, after WOTW2 she was probably one of the favourites to win and flopped. Even worse that it was early on so she only had so many episodes. She'd have been better off being like Josh, Kyle, Nany, Mel & Bayeligh who waited until the end and got over a dozen episodes. She needs to really prove herself as someone who can stay in the came if she wants to continure to be cast ever season, nevermind a female face, she doesn't have the repuation of someone like Ashley who can always come back since she's won twice and is a dramatic personality
You're confused--you're factoring in what you care about it. Watch the trailer--production loves Tori. She could go home early ever season and they'll still want her to be the face. Tori will be on the cast any time she's willing.
If she were to leave early on 36, come back for 37 and lose early again her days as a regular are as good as done. Wes, Bananas, CT & Ashley are the only current regulars who can flop in the first few episodes and not have it effect their standing. But a run to the finals or even a coupe elimination wins and a good storyline this season would secure her future
We disagree --the trailer IMO tells you that you're wrong. She could go out earlythis season, next season and the following season and they'd still want her
She is probably the casuals' favourite female, which is why she's been on three straight and is featured in trailers and on the podcast. But I question how much they'll care about her if she doesn't put up another WOTW2 level season soon, their attention spans are pretty short for people not named Bananas or CT. She could end up being a Nany where every episode she's getting roasted on twitter for flopping every season
Truthfully I think that's what you're hoping for not what is likely
Tori really embarrassed herself on TM losing to Jenna who didn't even want to be there, after WOTW2 she was probably one of the favourites to win and flopped. Even worse that it was early on so she only had so many episodes. She'd have been better off being like Josh, Kyle, Nany, Mel & Bayeligh who waited until the end and got over a dozen episodes. She needs to really prove herself as someone who can stay in the came if she wants to continure to be cast ever season, nevermind a female face, she doesn't have the repuation of someone like Ashley who can always come back since she's won twice and is a dramatic personality
You're confused--you're factoring in what you care about it. Watch the trailer--production loves Tori. She could go home early ever season and they'll still want her to be the face. Tori will be on the cast any time she's willing.
If she were to leave early on 36, come back for 37 and lose early again her days as a regular are as good as done. Wes, Bananas, CT & Ashley are the only current regulars who can flop in the first few episodes and not have it effect their standing. But a run to the finals or even a coupe elimination wins and a good storyline this season would secure her future
We disagree --the trailer IMO tells you that you're wrong. She could go out earlythis season, next season and the following season and they'd still want her
She is probably the casuals' favourite female, which is why she's been on three straight and is featured in trailers and on the podcast. But I question how much they'll care about her if she doesn't put up another WOTW2 level season soon, their attention spans are pretty short for people not named Bananas or CT. She could end up being a Nany where every episode she's getting roasted on twitter for flopping every season
Truthfully I think that's what you're hoping for not what is likely
I hope she brings it, I absolutely wanted to see her on TM after she was robbed of a win on WOTW2. But now I'm less excited for her this season after she did nothing last season and if she does nothing this season I will be even less excited for her to be on next season. I think that's probably how a lot of others, including casuals, feel/will feel
Tori really embarrassed herself on TM losing to Jenna who didn't even want to be there, after WOTW2 she was probably one of the favourites to win and flopped. Even worse that it was early on so she only had so many episodes. She'd have been better off being like Josh, Kyle, Nany, Mel & Bayeligh who waited until the end and got over a dozen episodes. She needs to really prove herself as someone who can stay in the came if she wants to continure to be cast ever season, nevermind a female face, she doesn't have the repuation of someone like Ashley who can always come back since she's won twice and is a dramatic personality
You're confused--you're factoring in what you care about it. Watch the trailer--production loves Tori. She could go home early ever season and they'll still want her to be the face. Tori will be on the cast any time she's willing.
If she were to leave early on 36, come back for 37 and lose early again her days as a regular are as good as done. Wes, Bananas, CT & Ashley are the only current regulars who can flop in the first few episodes and not have it effect their standing. But a run to the finals or even a coupe elimination wins and a good storyline this season would secure her future
We disagree --the trailer IMO tells you that you're wrong. She could go out earlythis season, next season and the following season and they'd still want her
She is probably the casuals' favourite female, which is why she's been on three straight and is featured in trailers and on the podcast. But I question how much they'll care about her if she doesn't put up another WOTW2 level season soon, their attention spans are pretty short for people not named Bananas or CT. She could end up being a Nany where every episode she's getting roasted on twitter for flopping every season
Truthfully I think that's what you're hoping for not what is likely
I hope she brings it, I absolutely wanted to see her on TM after she was robbed of a win on WOTW2. But now I'm less excited for her this season after she did nothing last season and if she does nothing this season I will be even less excited for her to be on next season. I think that's probably how a lot of others, including casuals, feel/will feel
Fair enough. We just disagree. IMO casuals want CT Wes John Ashley and Tori all the time and when they go home early they want to see them even more.
It's time for another Fresh meat season. Those always gave us great regulars.
1. No
2. No the **** they didn't. Most if not all the fresh meat were either useless or horrible. Not to mention the seasons themselves were mediocre as ****. We don't need another group of people to **** up this show to high ****. No. Thank. You.
Dude, it's 2020 already. We admire the consistency but Real World and Road Rules are dead so the Fresh Meat hate is now officially beating a dead horse. The Fresh Meat and all these other reality shows are here to stay. They have to if they wanna keep this show alive.
That's not what this is about. I'm fine with people not being from RW/RR being on this show. I got over that shit a LONG time ago. The issue I have with FM is to me they were just bad television. The First batch. Evan/Kenny/Diem/Ryan/Casey/Eric etc etc...either all were unlikable or just plain useless. They weren't good castmembers to me and I still hold on to that. The Second Group while not as bad as the first still as a whole weren't shit. They made this show at the time they were on painful as **** to watch and I am GLAD they're gone. Fresh Meat 3 would be no different'.
Plus WOTW 1 was pretty much FM 3. They should do another one like that but make sure to cast people who aren't problematic and cut down on the peop;e who aren't shit. I swear sometimes I feel like they cast people who they know won't do shit so their little prized tureds aren't threatened.
@Debut you hit the nail on the head with the last sentence
Completely true and they willingly did sabotage AYTO with whom they choose first
Yep.
That's why I think that's one reason people like Turbo/Theo/Paulie hasn't been back. They were strong likeable/interesting competitors who could bring it and could really take it to their pets if they wanted. Yeah there were other factors obviously but I think that's one reason, Not tomention that there's a whole heap of people out there who hasn't been on this show that would be good for it and could really make their pets look like the shit they are if MTV got behind them.
@Debut you hit the nail on the head with the last sentence
Completely true and they willingly did sabotage AYTO with whom they choose first
Yep.
That's why I think that's one reason people like Turbo/Theo/Paulie hasn't been back. They were strong likeable/interesting competitors who could bring it and could really take it to their pets if they wanted. Yeah there were other factors obviously but I think that's one reason, Not tomention that there's a whole heap of people out there who hasn't been on this show that would be good for it and could really make their pets look like the shit they are if MTV got behind them.
Theo had a medical reason not to come back. The other two are spot on though.
Well the three male faces go home early on half their seasons too. Bananas literally went 0-7 in eliminations in a 6 season span, which I'm almost certain is a record
well with Dee and Georgia and Bayleigh done, I'd say Kam and Tori. and as exciting as the season 36 debuts are (Lolo and Natalie A I mean), I don't see many of them sticking around for very long. maybe Amber B? though I have no idea how she does this season (this is a non-spoiler thread so don't tell me) and I didn't watch BB16 either
It's time for another Fresh meat season. Those always gave us great regulars.
We are good
1. No
2. No the **** they didn't. Most if not all the fresh meat were either useless or horrible. Not to mention the seasons themselves were mediocre as ****. We don't need another group of people to **** up this show to high ****. No. Thank. You.
we literally just had WotW
And all we got out of it at the end was Josh. We lost everyone else to problematic behavior.
Dude, it's 2020 already. We admire the consistency but Real World and Road Rules are dead so the Fresh Meat hate is now officially beating a dead horse. The Fresh Meat and all these other reality shows are here to stay. They have to if they wanna keep this show alive.
@Psy4Potato
You should use this response whenever he goes on his rants about how "THERE ARE TOO MANY RANDOMS!!!! VERONICA WILL SAVE THIS SHOW!!!!" like he does almost every time he comments on here
We're pretending it's not Tori? Kam and Nany are also in the running but Tori seems to be who production wants it to be.
Lol
Tori really embarrassed herself on TM losing to Jenna who didn't even want to be there, after WOTW2 she was probably one of the favourites to win and flopped. Even worse that it was early on so she only had so many episodes. She'd have been better off being like Josh, Kyle, Nany, Mel & Bayeligh who waited until the end and got over a dozen episodes. She needs to really prove herself as someone who can stay in the came if she wants to continure to be cast ever season, nevermind a female face, she doesn't have the repuation of someone like Ashley who can always come back since she's won twice and is a dramatic personality
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People stanned Tori for a millisecond on WOTW2 and now production won't leave it alone. Smh
You're confused--you're factoring in what you care about it. Watch the trailer--production loves Tori. She could go home early ever season and they'll still want her to be the face. Tori will be on the cast any time she's willing.
If she were to leave early on 36, come back for 37 and lose early again her days as a regular are as good as done. Wes, Bananas, CT & Ashley are the only current regulars who can flop in the first few episodes and not have it effect their standing. But a run to the finals or even a coupe elimination wins and a good storyline this season would secure her future
We disagree --the trailer IMO tells you that you're wrong. She could go out earlythis season, next season and the following season and they'd still want her
She is probably the casuals' favourite female, which is why she's been on three straight and is featured in trailers and on the podcast. But I question how much they'll care about her if she doesn't put up another WOTW2 level season soon, their attention spans are pretty short for people not named Bananas or CT. She could end up being a Nany where every episode she's getting roasted on twitter for flopping every season
Truthfully I think that's what you're hoping for not what is likely
I hope she brings it, I absolutely wanted to see her on TM after she was robbed of a win on WOTW2. But now I'm less excited for her this season after she did nothing last season and if she does nothing this season I will be even less excited for her to be on next season. I think that's probably how a lot of others, including casuals, feel/will feel
Fair enough. We just disagree. IMO casuals want CT Wes John Ashley and Tori all the time and when they go home early they want to see them even more.
That's not what this is about. I'm fine with people not being from RW/RR being on this show. I got over that shit a LONG time ago. The issue I have with FM is to me they were just bad television. The First batch. Evan/Kenny/Diem/Ryan/Casey/Eric etc etc...either all were unlikable or just plain useless. They weren't good castmembers to me and I still hold on to that. The Second Group while not as bad as the first still as a whole weren't shit. They made this show at the time they were on painful as **** to watch and I am GLAD they're gone. Fresh Meat 3 would be no different'.
Plus WOTW 1 was pretty much FM 3. They should do another one like that but make sure to cast people who aren't problematic and cut down on the peop;e who aren't shit. I swear sometimes I feel like they cast people who they know won't do shit so their little prized tureds aren't threatened.
@Debut you hit the nail on the head with the last sentence
Completely true and they willingly did sabotage AYTO with whom they choose first
Yep.
That's why I think that's one reason people like Turbo/Theo/Paulie hasn't been back. They were strong likeable/interesting competitors who could bring it and could really take it to their pets if they wanted. Yeah there were other factors obviously but I think that's one reason, Not tomention that there's a whole heap of people out there who hasn't been on this show that would be good for it and could really make their pets look like the shit they are if MTV got behind them.
Do you think they'll ever do a season with no rookies and no winners? Just 26-32 people who have been on before but haven't won?
Sadly no. Because that would mean Wes CT and Backpack wouldn't be on and they refuse to do a season without at least one of them on.
no way. there's always going to have new blood and champs are most likely good / preferred cast members so they want to keep them on .
Theo had a medical reason not to come back. The other two are spot on though.
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