The Challenge: War of the Worlds II Discussion (SPOILERS) - Part 2

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jordan has followed none of t he new cast lmao this is really just business for him lol

Kudos to him...get paid and ignore the ********** I hate Jordan but I can respect that

I would say get paid and******** is Jordan's motto. I mean he's had Laurel, Sarah, and Tori. He was averaging almost a hookup a season. 

Jonna as well.

Did him and kailah ever happen too? They were close in dirty 30 early on strangely and not sure if her and mikey were "serious" yet.

She wanted it too but he chose tori.

If that's the narrative you want to believed lol

Nothing happenned between them or either wanted anything. They were just friends that flirted just like him and Jojo on champs. At that time he was already Tori side piece and she was living with her bf.

All Landon had to do in Duel 2 was not go and get the damn pen/pencil lol. Thats it, he wins if he wasn't trying to be nice. Soon as he left the room, Evan plotted because they all knew Landon was the toughest for the final. Props to Evan for taking the correct shot lol.

 

 

jordan has followed none of t he new cast lmao this is really just business for him lol

Kudos to him...get paid and ignore the ********** I hate Jordan but I can respect that

I would say get paid and******** is Jordan's motto. I mean he's had Laurel, Sarah, and Tori. He was averaging almost a hookup a season. 

Also Jonna I believe. Wasn't Marlon kicking it to Nany and Jordan to Jonna after Sarah was DQ'd from Rivals 2?

Off topic but Jordan & Kailah did look cute together on Dirty 30 

Tori is cute but not my type at all but kudos to them

Theo and Paulie unfollow each other what’s tea ? 

Theo and Paulie unfollow each other what’s tea ? 

The same reason Josh and Paul unfollow each other

Theo and Paulie unfollow each other what’s tea ? 

Theo lived in eliminations...logically Paulie had something to do with that

Off topic but Jordan & Kailah did look cute together on Dirty 30 

Tori is cute but not my type at all but kudos to them

 

I would have shipped jordan and kailah or paulie and kailah tbh

I could see next season being couples, since the couples probably played a major role this season, like how they made this season based on the USA vs UK alliances last season 

I would dislike a couples season. I would rather have an alliance season. 

A Couples Season with the oppurtunity to steal the money from your significant other. Hmmmmm

A Couples Season with the oppurtunity to steal the money from your significant other. Hmmmmm

How would that be beneficial? 

I would dislike a couples season. I would rather have an alliance season. 

Allies works much better imo as an individual challenge where people can choose to save thier ally by putting themselves up for elimination tbh, that way you test the bonds people have and see who's really willing to take the bullet for someone. Also at the end of the day, you're still against your ally in the end so there's the matter of how far do you go for that win? 

 

A Couples Season with the oppurtunity to steal the money from your significant other. Hmmmmm

How would that be beneficial? 

Great way to break up with somebody lol

First off, Cara nor Leroy were set up to win those seasons.  Bloodlines was set up for John. Exes was set up for Sarah John and/or Wes. 

Second, John isnt top 10. i don't care about the number of wins...never have.  See any post I've made about Ashley

Third, Kenny and Evan were definitely better than John. So was Derrick. So was Mark Long who has never gone home unless he cut a deal with someone for a piece of the prize money. 

Fourth, John earned Free Agents that was an excellent win. The Island was truly a joke which isnt his fault. He was the worst guy on The Ruins to the point where Evan stated he was as worried about John as Susie. Rivals was a good win regardless of the reset but he had to pay off Adam. Exes was a good win but he had to pay off Mark and was lucky Emily didn't have a semi-decent partner. Rivals 3 was a joke

In conclusion, John has an impressive resume but was never elite at any aspect of the game. He was always a solid competitor but the worst in DJEK. He was never overly strategic which is why he hated Susie Rachel Cara and every other girl with a brain. Jenn Sarah and the rest of "his girls" were always more loyal to Kenny and Evan than John. John's not top 10 probably not top 15.  John is basically Dunbar.  I cant stand Brad but Brad was better. 

Lol at kvm once again showing why he is s dumb *** & no one can take his discussions serious because is always all over the place with his logic & changing his stance on issues to fit his own narrative. I will say besides this site which has a lot of Bananas haters. Almost everyone outsise of this site & including some cast members think Bananas is the king of the challenges. Watch each new season & old ones where in cast interviews at least one person a season will mention Bananas being the king & they need to take him out. People always seem to forget since Free Agents he has had the biggest target on his back. It's almost impossible for him to get to a final these days. Which is how it should be for the person with the most wins in challenge history.

 

First off, Cara nor Leroy were set up to win those seasons.  Bloodlines was set up for John. Exes was set up for Sarah John and/or Wes. 

Second, John isnt top 10. i don't care about the number of wins...never have.  See any post I've made about Ashley

Third, Kenny and Evan were definitely better than John. So was Derrick. So was Mark Long who has never gone home unless he cut a deal with someone for a piece of the prize money. 

Fourth, John earned Free Agents that was an excellent win. The Island was truly a joke which isnt his fault. He was the worst guy on The Ruins to the point where Evan stated he was as worried about John as Susie. Rivals was a good win regardless of the reset but he had to pay off Adam. Exes was a good win but he had to pay off Mark and was lucky Emily didn't have a semi-decent partner. Rivals 3 was a joke

In conclusion, John has an impressive resume but was never elite at any aspect of the game. He was always a solid competitor but the worst in DJEK. He was never overly strategic which is why he hated Susie Rachel Cara and every other girl with a brain. Jenn Sarah and the rest of "his girls" were always more loyal to Kenny and Evan than John. John's not top 10 probably not top 15.  John is basically Dunbar.  I cant stand Brad but Brad was better. 

Lol at kvm once again showing why he is s dumb *** & no one can take his discussions serious because is always all over the place with his logic & changing his stance on issues to fit his own narrative. I will say besides this site which has a lot of Bananas haters. Almost everyone outsise of this site & including some cast members think Bananas is the king of the challenges. Watch each new season & old ones where in cast interviews at least one person a season will mention Bananas being the king & they need to take him out. People always seem to forget since Free Agents he has had the biggest target on his back. It's almost impossible for him to get to a final these days. Which is how it should be for the person with the most wins in challenge history.

People seem to forget that he had no alliance on Free Agents and he had to win multiple eliminations, including dealing Jordan his only ever loss. That was one of the toughest seasons ever, and he won it without a partner and without friends shielding him. I think John’s win in Free Agents ranks among the best wins of all time. 

 

 

First off, Cara nor Leroy were set up to win those seasons.  Bloodlines was set up for John. Exes was set up for Sarah John and/or Wes. 

Second, John isnt top 10. i don't care about the number of wins...never have.  See any post I've made about Ashley

Third, Kenny and Evan were definitely better than John. So was Derrick. So was Mark Long who has never gone home unless he cut a deal with someone for a piece of the prize money. 

Fourth, John earned Free Agents that was an excellent win. The Island was truly a joke which isnt his fault. He was the worst guy on The Ruins to the point where Evan stated he was as worried about John as Susie. Rivals was a good win regardless of the reset but he had to pay off Adam. Exes was a good win but he had to pay off Mark and was lucky Emily didn't have a semi-decent partner. Rivals 3 was a joke

In conclusion, John has an impressive resume but was never elite at any aspect of the game. He was always a solid competitor but the worst in DJEK. He was never overly strategic which is why he hated Susie Rachel Cara and every other girl with a brain. Jenn Sarah and the rest of "his girls" were always more loyal to Kenny and Evan than John. John's not top 10 probably not top 15.  John is basically Dunbar.  I cant stand Brad but Brad was better. 

Lol at kvm once again showing why he is s dumb *** & no one can take his discussions serious because is always all over the place with his logic & changing his stance on issues to fit his own narrative. I will say besides this site which has a lot of Bananas haters. Almost everyone outsise of this site & including some cast members think Bananas is the king of the challenges. Watch each new season & old ones where in cast interviews at least one person a season will mention Bananas being the king & they need to take him out. People always seem to forget since Free Agents he has had the biggest target on his back. It's almost impossible for him to get to a final these days. Which is how it should be for the person with the most wins in challenge history.

People seem to forget that he had no alliance on Free Agents and he had to win multiple eliminations, including dealing Jordan his only ever loss. That was one of the toughest seasons ever, and he won it without a partner and without friends shielding him. I think John’s win in Free Agents ranks among the best wins of all time. 

Beating Jordan in one of the only eliminations that requires you to make a fist with two hands, wow so impressive

 

First off, Cara nor Leroy were set up to win those seasons.  Bloodlines was set up for John. Exes was set up for Sarah John and/or Wes. 

Second, John isnt top 10. i don't care about the number of wins...never have.  See any post I've made about Ashley

Third, Kenny and Evan were definitely better than John. So was Derrick. So was Mark Long who has never gone home unless he cut a deal with someone for a piece of the prize money. 

Fourth, John earned Free Agents that was an excellent win. The Island was truly a joke which isnt his fault. He was the worst guy on The Ruins to the point where Evan stated he was as worried about John as Susie. Rivals was a good win regardless of the reset but he had to pay off Adam. Exes was a good win but he had to pay off Mark and was lucky Emily didn't have a semi-decent partner. Rivals 3 was a joke

In conclusion, John has an impressive resume but was never elite at any aspect of the game. He was always a solid competitor but the worst in DJEK. He was never overly strategic which is why he hated Susie Rachel Cara and every other girl with a brain. Jenn Sarah and the rest of "his girls" were always more loyal to Kenny and Evan than John. John's not top 10 probably not top 15.  John is basically Dunbar.  I cant stand Brad but Brad was better. 

Lol at kvm once again showing why he is s dumb *** & no one can take his discussions serious because is always all over the place with his logic & changing his stance on issues to fit his own narrative. I will say besides this site which has a lot of Bananas haters. Almost everyone outsise of this site & including some cast members think Bananas is the king of the challenges. Watch each new season & old ones where in cast interviews at least one person a season will mention Bananas being the king & they need to take him out. People always seem to forget since Free Agents he has had the biggest target on his back. It's almost impossible for him to get to a final these days. Which is how it should be for the person with the most wins in challenge history.

People seem to forget that he had no alliance on Free Agents and he had to win multiple eliminations, including dealing Jordan his only ever loss. That was one of the toughest seasons ever, and he won it without a partner and without friends shielding him. I think John’s win in Free Agents ranks among the best wins of all time. 

Beating Jordan in one of the only eliminations that requires you to make a fist with two hands, wow so impressive

you act like Jordan is some average guy with one hand. He is far from that. He is top 3 all time. Anytime you beat an elite, it bears mentioning 

 

 

First off, Cara nor Leroy were set up to win those seasons.  Bloodlines was set up for John. Exes was set up for Sarah John and/or Wes. 

Second, John isnt top 10. i don't care about the number of wins...never have.  See any post I've made about Ashley

Third, Kenny and Evan were definitely better than John. So was Derrick. So was Mark Long who has never gone home unless he cut a deal with someone for a piece of the prize money. 

Fourth, John earned Free Agents that was an excellent win. The Island was truly a joke which isnt his fault. He was the worst guy on The Ruins to the point where Evan stated he was as worried about John as Susie. Rivals was a good win regardless of the reset but he had to pay off Adam. Exes was a good win but he had to pay off Mark and was lucky Emily didn't have a semi-decent partner. Rivals 3 was a joke

In conclusion, John has an impressive resume but was never elite at any aspect of the game. He was always a solid competitor but the worst in DJEK. He was never overly strategic which is why he hated Susie Rachel Cara and every other girl with a brain. Jenn Sarah and the rest of "his girls" were always more loyal to Kenny and Evan than John. John's not top 10 probably not top 15.  John is basically Dunbar.  I cant stand Brad but Brad was better. 

Lol at kvm once again showing why he is s dumb *** & no one can take his discussions serious because is always all over the place with his logic & changing his stance on issues to fit his own narrative. I will say besides this site which has a lot of Bananas haters. Almost everyone outsise of this site & including some cast members think Bananas is the king of the challenges. Watch each new season & old ones where in cast interviews at least one person a season will mention Bananas being the king & they need to take him out. People always seem to forget since Free Agents he has had the biggest target on his back. It's almost impossible for him to get to a final these days. Which is how it should be for the person with the most wins in challenge history.

People seem to forget that he had no alliance on Free Agents and he had to win multiple eliminations, including dealing Jordan his only ever loss. That was one of the toughest seasons ever, and he won it without a partner and without friends shielding him. I think John’s win in Free Agents ranks among the best wins of all time. 

Beating Jordan in one of the only eliminations that requires you to make a fist with two hands, wow so impressive

you act like Jordan is some average guy with one hand. He is far from that. He is top 3 all time. Anytime you beat an elite, it bears mentioning 

it doesn't diminish his handicap. that particular elimination really didn't bode well for his handicap and we all know it. The vast majority of people would beat Jordan in that elimination because of it and we all know it.

 

 

 

First off, Cara nor Leroy were set up to win those seasons.  Bloodlines was set up for John. Exes was set up for Sarah John and/or Wes. 

Second, John isnt top 10. i don't care about the number of wins...never have.  See any post I've made about Ashley

Third, Kenny and Evan were definitely better than John. So was Derrick. So was Mark Long who has never gone home unless he cut a deal with someone for a piece of the prize money. 

Fourth, John earned Free Agents that was an excellent win. The Island was truly a joke which isnt his fault. He was the worst guy on The Ruins to the point where Evan stated he was as worried about John as Susie. Rivals was a good win regardless of the reset but he had to pay off Adam. Exes was a good win but he had to pay off Mark and was lucky Emily didn't have a semi-decent partner. Rivals 3 was a joke

In conclusion, John has an impressive resume but was never elite at any aspect of the game. He was always a solid competitor but the worst in DJEK. He was never overly strategic which is why he hated Susie Rachel Cara and every other girl with a brain. Jenn Sarah and the rest of "his girls" were always more loyal to Kenny and Evan than John. John's not top 10 probably not top 15.  John is basically Dunbar.  I cant stand Brad but Brad was better. 

Lol at kvm once again showing why he is s dumb *** & no one can take his discussions serious because is always all over the place with his logic & changing his stance on issues to fit his own narrative. I will say besides this site which has a lot of Bananas haters. Almost everyone outsise of this site & including some cast members think Bananas is the king of the challenges. Watch each new season & old ones where in cast interviews at least one person a season will mention Bananas being the king & they need to take him out. People always seem to forget since Free Agents he has had the biggest target on his back. It's almost impossible for him to get to a final these days. Which is how it should be for the person with the most wins in challenge history.

People seem to forget that he had no alliance on Free Agents and he had to win multiple eliminations, including dealing Jordan his only ever loss. That was one of the toughest seasons ever, and he won it without a partner and without friends shielding him. I think John’s win in Free Agents ranks among the best wins of all time. 

Beating Jordan in one of the only eliminations that requires you to make a fist with two hands, wow so impressive

you act like Jordan is some average guy with one hand. He is far from that. He is top 3 all time. Anytime you beat an elite, it bears mentioning 

it doesn't diminish his handicap. that particular elimination really didn't bode well for his handicap and we all know it. The vast majority of people would beat Jordan in that elimination because of it and we all know it.

One hand or not, he defeated a MUCH stronger Zach in an elimination that required him to swing a sledgehammer.....with one hand or not. I would never bet against Jordan in ANYTHING. Almost anything under the sun would be easier with two hands instead of one. 

You and many others are completely blinded by your Johnny hatred. I don’t love the guy and I acknowledge that he is nowhere near the king, but you guys allow your hatred to stand in the way of all logic and reason. 

John beating Jordan in that elimination was legit.   I won't take that away from him.  Jordan knew what the elimination was and threw himself into it.  Jordan believed he could still win--butu John bested him.  Kudos to John.  And, yes, Free Agents was a great win for him.  I don't think anyone has taken that away from him.

Everything else stands.  It is a well known fact that John has paid people off (Addam King & Mark Long) to reach finals. John has relied on others to carry him to the end.  He needed Kenny to make the deal with Evelyn to save him on The Island.  He got lucky that Brad/Darrell DQ'd themselves becacuse he probably doesn't beat Brad in any elimination.  Rivals 3 was giftwrapped for him.  We all knew him and Sarah were winning Rivals 3 the moment we saw the cast.  John's had a great career but it doesn't make him elite or one of the best ever.  

I also think it's odd that Bischoff actually thinks I changed my stance on something.   I may be "a dumb ***" but I'm consistent.

 

I would dislike a couples season. I would rather have an alliance season. 

Allies works much better imo as an individual challenge where people can choose to save thier ally by putting themselves up for elimination tbh, that way you test the bonds people have and see who's really willing to take the bullet for someone. Also at the end of the day, you're still against your ally in the end so there's the matter of how far do you go for that win? 

I like this idea.

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Just updated the lock thread with eliminations matchups

Theo & Tori look like the elimination king & queen of the season   Georgia & Theo really were targeted.  

Was Ashley M vs. Nany who could sleep with the most cast members in a single season?

Theo & Tori look like the elimination king & queen of the season   Georgia & Theo really were targeted.  

Putting her against Tula was an easy win. No shade but she keeps being describe as being completely clueless.

Esther despite being super small has a lot of heart and had a better understanding 

Was Ashley M vs. Nany who could sleep with the most cast members in a single season?

how did ashley m end up winning that one

 

Theo & Tori look like the elimination king & queen of the season   Georgia & Theo really were targeted.  

Putting her against Tula was an easy win. No shade but she keeps being describe as being completely clueless.

Esther despite being super small has a lot of heart and had a better understanding 

Yeah, Georgia's wins don't look overly impressive.   Theo & Tori on the other hand...well down.   Curious to see it play out.

Really interesting that Ashley M & Nany were the final girls elimination...

Was Ashley M vs. Nany who could sleep with the most cast members in a single season?

Nah--Ashley won

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