The Challenge - War of the Worlds II (Non - Spoilers)

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Graphik wrote:

QueenRamos wrote:Nelson and Wes together would be interesting. Wes would play him like a fiddle.

Nelson is not Hunter & doesn't let other men play his game lol Invasion showed us that.

Pretty sure he took a backseat to Shane on Vendettas and he should have taken a back seat on Invasion.  Hopefully he's figured that out now.

Pretty sure he didn't & that was a good part of the reason why they were paired up on FR. "Should've taken a back seat on Invasion" yet he won Invasion playing HIS game. Production simply loves their fat *** "Wolverine" with the sob story more.

You're in your 40's & have yet to figure out simple stuff. Nelson will be just fine lol

Neltson can stay home 

Very disappointed with some of the cast.I had really hoped that the emergence of multiple new, entertaining, and charismatic individuals from WOTW, that MTV would give John a much much much needed break.  The guy is nearing 40 and has been on what.... 15 consecutive seasons?  His 'character' hasnt evolved in the least.  He's the same moronic ********* hypocritical camera ***** that he's always been.  Can't wait to watch him kill it in dailys because he's literally a career challenger, only to play like a persecuted victim when called out, to then choke in an elimination.  JFC MTV.... give it a rest.Same with Cara.  Hasn't she basically arced at this point?  Came to us Challenge fans as a likeable, awkward unathletic girl trying to find her way.  We watched her evolve into an impressive challenger and eventual winner.  Now she's getting old and getting into cringe worthy relationships and acting entitled.  Has been getting increasingly less likeable as each season has passed.  Jozea?  Guy sucks at everything.  Not interesting.CT?  He will always be one of my favorites from back in the day.  Really should've rode into the sunset after Invasion.  That season put a bow on his story.  We watched him evolve from an intimidating bad boy, to a still intimidating but mature grown man.  Tied in the Diem storyline at the end, and he won the whole ****** thing.  Was pretty impressive.  Then he comes back the next season and makes it to the final where he has to walk the entire time because he's in the process of becoming more Chris Farley than Chris Tamburello.  To this past season where he whines when called out - literally never saw that before.  Eh...... just tarnishing your resume at this point.Zach - why is he coming back?  Has there ever been a more looks like tarzan/competes like jane in challenge history?  I could gripe about a few more, but I digress....It doesn't have to be this way, MTV.  You want to cast the old heads, by all means sprinkle them in from time to time.  Wes has done it right IMO - disappeared for a long while and then reappeared and has done well.  Brad did well, although he was trying to hard to force himself back into storylines IMO.   Sit John and Cara and CT.  Bring back Darryl, Brad, Jordan, Abram, etc.  There's a lot of quality candidates.  Let the new faces carry the future of the challenge like they have this current season. Challenge... I wish I could quit you because you're **** is getting old. 

Cara is getting old? She's only 32...lol. Laurel is okder than her and everyone wants her to come back. Cara definitely needs a season off though. These people are getting paid to show up and travel the world, why would they retire? 

Neltson can stay home 

Nelson is no follower. End of discussion. Ever since his AYTO season, he’s always made it established that he’s an alpha type male and takes charge. Even on invasion, he stepped up as the leader of the underdogs with no questions asked. Nelson won’t blindly follow someone and he’ll make his own moves. I don’t know why people think he’s just someone’s lap dog. 

I guess we are getting another purge at the begining. Explains why some people are geting cast lol

honestly I will be shocked if Nelson, Kailah, and Tony are not on S34. same with Angela and Morgan, who were made the "stars" of the EotB seasons.

also, I'm always more excited to find out who is debuting rather than returning on a season! hoping for some surprises because I have never seen Love Island and I really think BB Paul would be one of the earliest outs.

maybe we'll finally get some US Survivor crossover, but I doubt it.

I'm honestly surprised to find out Cara is only 32.  

And I know these people won't retire.  Virtually all of them are **********.  They're professional reality stars.  So of course they'll come back over and over and over and over.  My point wasn't that I expected any to retire, rather that I wished MTV would switch it up.  CM/CT/JB can all skip a season or 5 and the show would be better for it.

 

Also, can we please get back to individual or even two teams, where the eliminations are 1v1.  The pairs thing is overplayed at this point - only so many contrived rivalries/ex's.  And in the situation if you get saddled with a weak partner, like a Veronica or a Jozea etc, you basically have zero chance of doing anything.

Graphik wrote:

QueenRamos wrote:Nelson and Wes together would be interesting. Wes would play him like a fiddle.

Nelson is not Hunter & doesn't let other men play his game lol Invasion showed us that.

Pretty sure he took a backseat to Shane on Vendettas and he should have taken a back seat on Invasion.  Hopefully he's figured that out now.

nelsons only ally in vendettas was devin i dont think him and shane even spoke from what we saw 

Neltson can stay home 

gamer do you really not like nelson or is it because of the marie beef? honest question

Imagine not wanting nelson on one of the few who delievers on all fronts.

Very disappointed with some of the cast.I had really hoped that the emergence of multiple new, entertaining, and charismatic individuals from WOTW, that MTV would give John a much much much needed break.  The guy is nearing 40 and has been on what.... 15 consecutive seasons?  His 'character' hasnt evolved in the least.  He's the same moronic ********* hypocritical camera ***** that he's always been.  Can't wait to watch him kill it in dailys because he's literally a career challenger, only to play like a persecuted victim when called out, to then choke in an elimination.  JFC MTV.... give it a rest.Same with Cara.  Hasn't she basically arced at this point?  Came to us Challenge fans as a likeable, awkward unathletic girl trying to find her way.  We watched her evolve into an impressive challenger and eventual winner.  Now she's getting old and getting into cringe worthy relationships and acting entitled.  Has been getting increasingly less likeable as each season has passed.  Jozea?  Guy sucks at everything.  Not interesting.CT?  He will always be one of my favorites from back in the day.  Really should've rode into the sunset after Invasion.  That season put a bow on his story.  We watched him evolve from an intimidating bad boy, to a still intimidating but mature grown man.  Tied in the Diem storyline at the end, and he won the whole ****** thing.  Was pretty impressive.  Then he comes back the next season and makes it to the final where he has to walk the entire time because he's in the process of becoming more Chris Farley than Chris Tamburello.  To this past season where he whines when called out - literally never saw that before.  Eh...... just tarnishing your resume at this point.Zach - why is he coming back?  Has there ever been a more looks like tarzan/competes like jane in challenge history?  I could gripe about a few more, but I digress....It doesn't have to be this way, MTV.  You want to cast the old heads, by all means sprinkle them in from time to time.  Wes has done it right IMO - disappeared for a long while and then reappeared and has done well.  Brad did well, although he was trying to hard to force himself back into storylines IMO.   Sit John and Cara and CT.  Bring back Darryl, Brad, Jordan, Abram, etc.  There's a lot of quality candidates.  Let the new faces carry the future of the challenge like they have this current season. Challenge... I wish I could quit you because you're **** is getting old. 

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the challenge i think is facing a serious problem that the wwe is facing currently. its just...meh. no matter what they do right now, its just so basic, it follows the same formula every week/season and its become a chore to watch. wwe fans would tell people if they fdidnt like it, then dont watch it. wwe is having historically low ratings, to the point where tv executives are talking about wwes viewership problems.

i can see this happening to the challenge soon enough. challenge fans LOVE to tell people if you dont like it, dont watch it. people will stop watching it.

kvm1977 wrote:

Graphik wrote:

QueenRamos wrote:Nelson and Wes together would be interesting. Wes would play him like a fiddle.

Nelson is not Hunter & doesn't let other men play his game lol Invasion showed us that.

Pretty sure he took a backseat to Shane on Vendettas and he should have taken a back seat on Invasion.  Hopefully he's figured that out now.

Pretty sure he didn't & that was a good part of the reason why they were paired up on FR. "Should've taken a back seat on Invasion" yet he won Invasion playing HIS game. Production simply loves their fat *** "Wolverine" with the sob story more.You're in your 40's & have yet to figure out simple stuff. Nelson will be just fine lol

He didn't win Invasion. And he relies on the LLs to get him to that final.  He absolutely rode Shane to Vendettas. Nelson has no intelligence he needs someone to think for him. 

I'm honestly surprised to find out Cara is only 32.  And I know these people won't retire.  Virtually all of them are **********.  They're professional reality stars.  So of course they'll come back over and over and over and over.  My point wasn't that I expected any to retire, rather that I wished MTV would switch it up.  CM/CT/JB can all skip a season or 5 and the show would be better for it. Also, can we please get back to individual or even two teams, where the eliminations are 1v1.  The pairs thing is overplayed at this point - only so many contrived rivalries/ex's.  And in the situation if you get saddled with a weak partner, like a Veronica or a Jozea etc, you basically have zero chance of doing anything.

Veronica? Veronica has yet to lose an elimination in her return. She was injured, purged and voted off by Camila. She made multiple inner circles on XXX.. she's no Laurel or Cara but she's not Jozea either. 

Cant wait for Nelson to get his second win this season

Graphik wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

Graphik wrote:
QueenRamos wrote:Nelson and Wes together would be interesting. Wes would play him like a fiddle.

Nelson is not Hunter & doesn't let other men play his game lol Invasion showed us that.

Pretty sure he took a backseat to Shane on Vendettas and he should have taken a back seat on Invasion.  Hopefully he's figured that out now.

Pretty sure he didn't & that was a good part of the reason why they were paired up on FR. "Should've taken a back seat on Invasion" yet he won Invasion playing HIS game. Production simply loves their fat *** "Wolverine" with the sob story more.You're in your 40's & have yet to figure out simple stuff. Nelson will be just fine lol

He didn't win Invasion. And he relies on the LLs to get him to that final.  He absolutely rode Shane to Vendettas. Nelson has no intelligence he needs someone to think for him. 

what show are you watching... literally everything you just said didnt happen....

Very disappointed with some of the cast.I had really hoped that the emergence of multiple new, entertaining, and charismatic individuals from WOTW, that MTV would give John a much much much needed break.  The guy is nearing 40 and has been on what.... 15 consecutive seasons?  His 'character' hasnt evolved in the least.  He's the same moronic ********* hypocritical camera ***** that he's always been.  Can't wait to watch him kill it in dailys because he's literally a career challenger, only to play like a persecuted victim when called out, to then choke in an elimination.  JFC MTV.... give it a rest.Same with Cara.  Hasn't she basically arced at this point?  Came to us Challenge fans as a likeable, awkward unathletic girl trying to find her way.  We watched her evolve into an impressive challenger and eventual winner.  Now she's getting old and getting into cringe worthy relationships and acting entitled.  Has been getting increasingly less likeable as each season has passed.  Jozea?  Guy sucks at everything.  Not interesting.CT?  He will always be one of my favorites from back in the day.  Really should've rode into the sunset after Invasion.  That season put a bow on his story.  We watched him evolve from an intimidating bad boy, to a still intimidating but mature grown man.  Tied in the Diem storyline at the end, and he won the whole ****** thing.  Was pretty impressive.  Then he comes back the next season and makes it to the final where he has to walk the entire time because he's in the process of becoming more Chris Farley than Chris Tamburello.  To this past season where he whines when called out - literally never saw that before.  Eh...... just tarnishing your resume at this point.Zach - why is he coming back?  Has there ever been a more looks like tarzan/competes like jane in challenge history?  I could gripe about a few more, but I digress....It doesn't have to be this way, MTV.  You want to cast the old heads, by all means sprinkle them in from time to time.  Wes has done it right IMO - disappeared for a long while and then reappeared and has done well.  Brad did well, although he was trying to hard to force himself back into storylines IMO.   Sit John and Cara and CT.  Bring back Darryl, Brad, Jordan, Abram, etc.  There's a lot of quality candidates.  Let the new faces carry the future of the challenge like they have this current season. Challenge... I wish I could quit you because you're **** is getting old. 

Great post. Except that CM was NEVER likable. She always sucked. Only thing is people are now seeing that.

Do y'all want them to keep the same format when it comes to ELMINATIONS? Let whoever gets voted down..pick their opponent? I wouldn't mind another house vote (majority rule).

I think watching house votes are more fun and interesting.. but I also want to do away with tribunals.. Fresh Meat 2 had the best voting system imo. Top male/female are safe and chooses one opponent, then the house votes on the 2nd. 

Graphik wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:

Graphik wrote:
QueenRamos wrote:Nelson and Wes together would be interesting. Wes would play him like a fiddle.

Nelson is not Hunter & doesn't let other men play his game lol Invasion showed us that.

Pretty sure he took a backseat to Shane on Vendettas and he should have taken a back seat on Invasion.  Hopefully he's figured that out now.

Pretty sure he didn't & that was a good part of the reason why they were paired up on FR. "Should've taken a back seat on Invasion" yet he won Invasion playing HIS game. Production simply loves their fat *** "Wolverine" with the sob story more.You're in your 40's & have yet to figure out simple stuff. Nelson will be just fine lol

He didn't win Invasion. And he relies on the LLs to get him to that final.  He absolutely rode Shane to Vendettas. Nelson has no intelligence he needs someone to think for him. 

He won Invasion & the format of Invasion didn't allow for the Lavenders to do a thing for Nelson. Shane left weeks earlier before Nelson so "riding" Shane anywhere couldn't possibly happen. You're in your 40's yet the two levels of intelligence is comparable. 

Some of you all confused about casting older people on the show must have never heard of Eric Nies and Mark Long those two got casted well into their forties well Mark did anyways and he killed it and was always a big part of the drama even though he’s mister nice guy and Shane is the same age as Kendal, Coral, Trishelle and Aneesa all of them were casted young and now are in their late thirties entering forties and could still be getting calls CT is their age as well. So yeah it can happen at any moment.. lol

 

PREACH!

Cant wait for Nelson to get his second win this season

Neltson can stay home 

PREACH lol

Cant wait for Nelson to get his second win this season

HITR94 wrote:

I'm honestly surprised to find out Cara is only 32.  And I know these people won't retire.  Virtually all of them are **********.  They're professional reality stars.  So of course they'll come back over and over and over and over.  My point wasn't that I expected any to retire, rather that I wished MTV would switch it up.  CM/CT/JB can all skip a season or 5 and the show would be better for it. Also, can we please get back to individual or even two teams, where the eliminations are 1v1.  The pairs thing is overplayed at this point - only so many contrived rivalries/ex's.  And in the situation if you get saddled with a weak partner, like a Veronica or a Jozea etc, you basically have zero chance of doing anything.

Veronica? Veronica has yet to lose an elimination in her return. She was injured, purged and voted off by Camila. She made multiple inner circles on XXX.. she's no Laurel or Cara but she's not Jozea either. 

PREACH PREACH PREACH.  Queen V as a 'weak partner' laughable.   Her height is what was against her for the swinging meat challenge.  That's something the short people can't help.  CT should have been a better partner to recognize that and attempt to swing the meat to her instad of just jumping and leaving her be.  I really hope we get to see her again and with a few others in her corner like Coral, Shane, Rachel, Tina, etc.  Veronica has never been a weak competitor.  She is not a super gym buff like some girls (Rachel, Cara Maria, Emily, etc) but she can hold her own.  She always performs well. 

Cant wait for Nelson to get his second win this season

StickyCabbage wrote:

I’m hoping for a Wes early boot. Why df are we still casting this ugly mug

 Because Wes is an intelligent,charming, and adorable young man. He's pivitol to the show and MTV knows it. Hence his recent 2 season contract.

 

Are Wes and Bananas the only ones that sign multiple season deals?

Eddie1378 wrote:

Cant wait for Nelson to get his second win this season

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