The Challenge - War of the Worlds II (Non - Spoilers)

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Look at FM, FM2 and Bloodlines...just because some is brought back doesn't mean they should have been or they did anything on their prior season.  People who actually should have been brought back (Aviv, Linette, Chanda, Carley, Pete, Noor, Sydney, Sandy, Jill, Mitch & maybe Anthony) were left off but we saw Easy, Luke, Mandi, Vinny, Shane R & Vince again.  Dee, Ninja or Mattie not being cast over Shaleen doesn't mean it's the right decision.   They make a lot of dumb decision...like not paying Coral

Any word on EOTB2 people? Janelle, Jay, Chad, etc.  

WE got Chase from the first season so expect the most boring bland vanilla person... my money is on Monte.

Look at FM, FM2 and Bloodlines...just because some is brought back doesn't mean they should have been or they did anything on their prior season.  People who actually should have been brought back (Aviv, Linette, Chanda, Carley, Pete, Noor, Sydney, Sandy, Jill, Mitch & maybe Anthony) were left off but we saw Easy, Luke, Mandi, Vinny, Shane R & Vince again.  Dee, Ninja or Mattie not being cast over Shaleen doesn't mean it's the right decision.   They make a lot of dumb decision...like not paying Coral

I almost agreed with you for once, until you tried to do Shaleen. 

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Look at FM, FM2 and Bloodlines...just because some is brought back doesn't mean they should have been or they did anything on their prior season.  People who actually should have been brought back (Aviv, Linette, Chanda, Carley, Pete, Noor, Sydney, Sandy, Jill, Mitch & maybe Anthony) were left off but we saw Easy, Luke, Mandi, Vinny, Shane R & Vince again.  Dee, Ninja or Mattie not being cast over Shaleen doesn't mean it's the right decision.   They make a lot of dumb decision...like not paying Coral

I almost agreed with you for once, until you tried to do Shaleen. 

I'm fine with her returning but let's not pretend she did anything on WOTW.   Doesn't mean she won't later but, yes, Dee Ninja and Mattie were more deserving a return based on WOTW. 

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QueenRamos wrote:Nelson and Wes together would be interesting. Wes would play him like a fiddle.

Nelson is not Hunter & doesn't let other men play his game lol Invasion showed us that.

Pretty sure he took a backseat to Shane on Vendettas and he should have taken a back seat on Invasion.  Hopefully he's figured that out now.

Pretty sure he didn't & that was a good part of the reason why they were paired up on FR. "Should've taken a back seat on Invasion" yet he won Invasion playing HIS game. Production simply loves their fat *** "Wolverine" with the sob story more.You're in your 40's & have yet to figure out simple stuff. Nelson will be just fine lol

He didn't win Invasion. And he relies on the LLs to get him to that final.  He absolutely rode Shane to Vendettas. Nelson has no intelligence he needs someone to think for him. 

He won Invasion & the format of Invasion didn't allow for the Lavenders to do a thing for Nelson. Shane left weeks earlier before Nelson so "riding" Shane anywhere couldn't possibly happen. You're in your 40's yet the two levels of intelligence is comparable. 

What show are you watching?  Shane was the last guy to leave on Invasion from the Challengers.   Weeks earlier?   What are you talking about.   And Nelson absolutely did not win Invasion.  CT won.   Facts.  Deal with it--actually you're probably just as stupid as Nelson so...

On Invasion, Nelson was pretty much the leader the underdogs which is why Tony's alliance kept getting sent in eliminations. Shane tried to be sneaky and cause problems but Nelson saw right through him which is why they became enemies. Nelson didn't win Invasion though but lost by less than 2 minutes.

On Vendettas, Shane & Nelson barley had interaction and not to mention Shane was eliminated pretty early.

On Final Reckoning, Nelson actually played a more quiet background game this season especially since he didn't have any allies in the game aside from Amanda at first. Shane on the other hand, let the Lavender Ladies being all together in the game get to his head and caused him to fight with anyone who wasn't in his alliance and made him and Nelson become bigger targets.

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kvm1977 wrote:Look at FM, FM2 and Bloodlines...just because some is brought back doesn't mean they should have been or they did anything on their prior season.  People who actually should have been brought back (Aviv, Linette, Chanda, Carley, Pete, Noor, Sydney, Sandy, Jill, Mitch & maybe Anthony) were left off but we saw Easy, Luke, Mandi, Vinny, Shane R & Vince again.  Dee, Ninja or Mattie not being cast over Shaleen doesn't mean it's the right decision.   They make a lot of dumb decision...like not paying Coral

I almost agreed with you for once, until you tried to do Shaleen. 

I'm fine with her returning but let's not pretend she did anything on WOTW.   Doesn't mean she won't later but, yes, Dee Ninja and Mattie were more deserving a return based on WOTW. 

For sure. I’m just glad my girl might get a second chance. 

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QueenRamos wrote:Nelson and Wes together would be interesting. Wes would play him like a fiddle.

Nelson is not Hunter & doesn't let other men play his game lol Invasion showed us that.

Pretty sure he took a backseat to Shane on Vendettas and he should have taken a back seat on Invasion.  Hopefully he's figured that out now.

Pretty sure he didn't & that was a good part of the reason why they were paired up on FR. "Should've taken a back seat on Invasion" yet he won Invasion playing HIS game. Production simply loves their fat *** "Wolverine" with the sob story more.You're in your 40's & have yet to figure out simple stuff. Nelson will be just fine lol

He didn't win Invasion. And he relies on the LLs to get him to that final.  He absolutely rode Shane to Vendettas. Nelson has no intelligence he needs someone to think for him. 

He won Invasion & the format of Invasion didn't allow for the Lavenders to do a thing for Nelson. Shane left weeks earlier before Nelson so "riding" Shane anywhere couldn't possibly happen. You're in your 40's yet the two levels of intelligence is comparable. 

What show are you watching?  Shane was the last guy to leave on Invasion from the Challengers.   Weeks earlier?   What are you talking about.   And Nelson absolutely did not win Invasion.  CT won.   Facts.  Deal with it--actually you're probably just as stupid as Nelson so...

Nelson won Invasion. Facts.

Your 40+ year old ******** *** is actually closer to Hunter's level of stupidity as he's shown over the course of these past two seasons that he's the dumbest person to play the game since Derrick K. 

You don't know whether you're talking about Invasion, Vendettas or FR yet still trying to argue a point that you've failed to make with anybody. "Lawyers" shouldn't be Short Bus Shawties but that's U.S.A. in 2019. Now go tend to your "wife" and "children", Kevin and stop being old/stupid. Such an atrocious combination. ROFL

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QueenRamos wrote:Nelson and Wes together would be interesting. Wes would play him like a fiddle.

Nelson is not Hunter & doesn't let other men play his game lol Invasion showed us that.

Pretty sure he took a backseat to Shane on Vendettas and he should have taken a back seat on Invasion.  Hopefully he's figured that out now.

Pretty sure he didn't & that was a good part of the reason why they were paired up on FR. "Should've taken a back seat on Invasion" yet he won Invasion playing HIS game. Production simply loves their fat *** "Wolverine" with the sob story more.You're in your 40's & have yet to figure out simple stuff. Nelson will be just fine lol

He didn't win Invasion. And he relies on the LLs to get him to that final.  He absolutely rode Shane to Vendettas. Nelson has no intelligence he needs someone to think for him. 

He won Invasion & the format of Invasion didn't allow for the Lavenders to do a thing for Nelson. Shane left weeks earlier before Nelson so "riding" Shane anywhere couldn't possibly happen. You're in your 40's yet the two levels of intelligence is comparable. 

What show are you watching?  Shane was the last guy to leave on Invasion from the Challengers.   Weeks earlier?   What are you talking about.   And Nelson absolutely did not win Invasion.  CT won.   Facts.  Deal with it--actually you're probably just as stupid as Nelson so...

On Invasion, Nelson was pretty much the leader the underdogs which is why Tony's alliance kept getting sent in eliminations. Shane tried to be sneaky and cause problems but Nelson saw right through him which is why they became enemies. Nelson didn't win Invasion though but lost by less than 2 minutes.On Vendettas, Shane & Nelson barley had interaction and not to mention Shane was eliminated pretty early.On Final Reckoning, Nelson actually played a more quiet background game this season especially since he didn't have any allies in the game aside from Amanda at first. Shane on the other hand, let the Lavender Ladies being all together in the game get to his head and caused him to fight with anyone who wasn't in his alliance and made him and Nelson become bigger targets.

Don't waste another second outlining anything to Kevin's slow ***. :)) 

Common sense isn't common.

Mosking

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QueenRamos wrote:Nelson and Wes together would be interesting. Wes would play him like a fiddle.

Nelson is not Hunter & doesn't let other men play his game lol Invasion showed us that.

Pretty sure he took a backseat to Shane on Vendettas and he should have taken a back seat on Invasion.  Hopefully he's figured that out now.

Pretty sure he didn't & that was a good part of the reason why they were paired up on FR. "Should've taken a back seat on Invasion" yet he won Invasion playing HIS game. Production simply loves their fat *** "Wolverine" with the sob story more.You're in your 40's & have yet to figure out simple stuff. Nelson will be just fine lol

He didn't win Invasion. And he relies on the LLs to get him to that final.  He absolutely rode Shane to Vendettas. Nelson has no intelligence he needs someone to think for him. 

He won Invasion & the format of Invasion didn't allow for the Lavenders to do a thing for Nelson. Shane left weeks earlier before Nelson so "riding" Shane anywhere couldn't possibly happen. You're in your 40's yet the two levels of intelligence is comparable. 

What show are you watching?  Shane was the last guy to leave on Invasion from the Challengers.   Weeks earlier?   What are you talking about.   And Nelson absolutely did not win Invasion.  CT won.   Facts.  Deal with it--actually you're probably just as stupid as Nelson so...

Nelson won Invasion. Facts.Your 40+ year old ******** *** is actually closer to Hunter's level of stupidity as he's shown over the course of these past two seasons that he's the dumbest person to play the game since Derrick K. You don't know whether you're talking about Invasion, Vendettas or FR yet still trying to argue a point that you've failed to make with anybody. "Lawyers" shouldn't be Short Bus Shawties but that's U.S.A. in 2019. Now go tend to your "wife" and "children", Kevin and stop being old/stupid. Such an atrocious combination. ROFL

CT won Invasion.  FACT

Nelson and Hunter are iditos.  I don't care which one you want to say is "less intelligent".  

I love the fact that you're so bothered by me yet I forget who you even are until you start with the Kevin nonsense.

Shane is so smart that he got outsmarted by Nelson on Invasion hence why the latter made it to the final on his 2nd season while Shane still dreaming about it #tragic

We love revisionist history over here. I-

I am really disapointed to hear that Mattie most likely won't be on this season. That girl knows how to kick butt and rock a challenge. Hopefully they bring in Laurel to fill in the void of not having Mattie. I am thrilled that Wes will be back most likely.

Do they even care about Cara anymore now that her and Bananas aren’t friends?

Do they even care about Cara anymore now that her and Bananas aren’t friends?[/

They must if they asked her back. But she's definitely not the face of the challenge anymore.

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I'm not surprised mattie didn't get a call, it just confirms the suspicions that they dont want any girl beating Cara 1 on 1. I bet laurel won't be there either and kam will be the second strongest 

If that was true, they wouldn't reach out to Laurel every season, they wouldn't have brought in Mattie in the first place or Ninja. They don't care about someone beating Cara - they just have **** poor taste when it comes to who they gives calls to sometimes.Cara only became the default female face because Camila was finally exposed as the racist she is, Jenna hasn't been able to win yet, and Cara started to play nice with Bananas. If they can find someone to replace her that bring competition and drama, they will do it in a heartbeat now that she's had a falling out with Bananas. Cara is replacable af to MTV/the Challenge like most of the women on this show. 

Lol no. Bananas left early on wow and Cara still got a ton of screen time hell they tried to make this whole season about her love triangle. She's easily their number 3 after Bananas & CT

Cara heel turn will continue I assume.

Okay I don’t follow anything on social media because I have to dvr the shows and watch them days (sometimes a week plus) later and I try to avoid spoilers.... so what’s the tea on Bananas and Carra not being friends anymore?  What did I miss?  

Can you guys please keep this on topic without attacking each other personally. I will locking this thread if it continues

Oh and about my criticism of Veronica earlier, calling her a weak partner.  What I mean is, well, let’s be honest - she doesn’t train for these at all.  She just drinks wine. Plus she’s older.  

So while I may have had a crush on her back in the day, I can acknowledge now that if she’s your partner and you by chance make it to a final with her - you basically have no shot at winning.  

Oh and about my criticism of Veronica earlier, calling her a weak partner.  What I mean is, well, let’s be honest - she doesn’t train for these at all.  She just drinks wine. Plus she’s older.  So while I may have had a crush on her back in the day, I can acknowledge now that if she’s your partner and you by chance make it to a final with her - you basically have no shot at winning.  

Veronica is useless. She did her due to this franchise but she’s not needed anymore !

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Oh and about my criticism of Veronica earlier, calling her a weak partner.  What I mean is, well, let’s be honest - she doesn’t train for these at all.  She just drinks wine. Plus she’s older.  So while I may have had a crush on her back in the day, I can acknowledge now that if she’s your partner and you by chance make it to a final with her - you basically have no shot at winning.  

Veronica is useless. She did her due to this franchise but she’s not needed anymore !

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Oh and about my criticism of Veronica earlier, calling her a weak partner.  What I mean is, well, let’s be honest - she doesn’t train for these at all.  She just drinks wine. Plus she’s older.  So while I may have had a crush on her back in the day, I can acknowledge now that if she’s your partner and you by chance make it to a final with her - you basically have no shot at winning.  

Veronica is useless. She did her due to this franchise but she’s not needed anymore !

Do they even care about Cara anymore now that her and Bananas aren’t friends?[/They must if they asked her back. But she's definitely not the face of the challenge anymore.

.... do people really think they only cast people who are friends with bananas. Her whole thing until invasion was about how she was against bananas. If anything they'll probably try and pull a storyline about him and cara making up. 

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Oh and about my criticism of Veronica earlier, calling her a weak partner.  What I mean is, well, let’s be honest - she doesn’t train for these at all.  She just drinks wine. Plus she’s older.  So while I may have had a crush on her back in the day, I can acknowledge now that if she’s your partner and you by chance make it to a final with her - you basically have no shot at winning.  

Veronica is useless. She did her due to this franchise but she’s not needed anymore !

Queen of making moves. Off topic but they need to have a I Love Money type show for Veronica so she can control the house.

Can we not quote long post?

Lol no. Bananas left early on wow and Cara still got a ton of screen time hell they tried to make this whole season about her love triangle. She's easily their number 3 after Bananas & CT

I wasn't saying they didn't focus on her - I'm saying she's only the female face of the show because their first choices aren't working out. They've been trying to push girls like Jenna, Tori, Kam, and now Nany to the front. The women are just more replacable to production than Bananas or CT.  Cara's just the girl so desperate to be on the show they know they can always count her in for the show (shown by the fact that she was backup for a few seasons in a row and lucked into being on the cast). 

And tbf that storyline put Kyle in a positive way and made Cara look even more like trash than normal. I'm sure they would have loved to have done more with Day/Theo/Kam/Leroy but Day was too smart for that to be out in the open so much. If Mattie had brought Martha to the show, she'd have gotten a call back. 

So yeah, they don't care about Cara enough to not cast people against her or they would never give Laurel a call. Sometimes we give too much credit to those we hate most on this show when really it boils down to MTV/the Challenge having shit taste in casting. We see it esp against men and women of color, after all. 

Though one day we will get a new male and female face of of the franchise and there will be much rejoicing. Gonna stop talking about it cause arguments on Cara aren't worth either of our times lol.

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QueenRamos wrote:Nelson and Wes together would be interesting. Wes would play him like a fiddle.

Nelson is not Hunter & doesn't let other men play his game lol Invasion showed us that.

Pretty sure he took a backseat to Shane on Vendettas and he should have taken a back seat on Invasion.  Hopefully he's figured that out now.

Pretty sure he didn't & that was a good part of the reason why they were paired up on FR. "Should've taken a back seat on Invasion" yet he won Invasion playing HIS game. Production simply loves their fat *** "Wolverine" with the sob story more.You're in your 40's & have yet to figure out simple stuff. Nelson will be just fine lol

He didn't win Invasion. And he relies on the LLs to get him to that final.  He absolutely rode Shane to Vendettas. Nelson has no intelligence he needs someone to think for him. 

He won Invasion & the format of Invasion didn't allow for the Lavenders to do a thing for Nelson. Shane left weeks earlier before Nelson so "riding" Shane anywhere couldn't possibly happen. You're in your 40's yet the two levels of intelligence is comparable. 

What show are you watching?  Shane was the last guy to leave on Invasion from the Challengers.   Weeks earlier?   What are you talking about.   And Nelson absolutely did not win Invasion.  CT won.   Facts.  Deal with it--actually you're probably just as stupid as Nelson so...

Nelson won Invasion. Facts.Your 40+ year old ******** *** is actually closer to Hunter's level of stupidity as he's shown over the course of these past two seasons that he's the dumbest person to play the game since Derrick K. You don't know whether you're talking about Invasion, Vendettas or FR yet still trying to argue a point that you've failed to make with anybody. "Lawyers" shouldn't be Short Bus Shawties but that's U.S.A. in 2019. Now go tend to your "wife" and "children", Kevin and stop being old/stupid. Such an atrocious combination. ROFL

CT won Invasion.  FACTNelson and Hunter are iditos.  I don't care which one you want to say is "less intelligent".  I love the fact that you're so bothered by me yet I forget who you even are until you start with the Kevin nonsense.

https://vevmo.com/comment/2582858#comment-2582858

Don't ever play yourself, Kevin. You're too old to be this much of a *******. Lol

Maybe figure out which season you're talking about in the first place before your middle-aged *** starts another argument at your age attempting to cause commotion. Lol 

For real...y’all can just @ someone instead of quoting their essay.

Though one day we will get a new male and female face of of the franchise and there will be much rejoicing. Gonna stop talking about it cause arguments on Cara aren't worth either of our times lol.

When those people are Paulie and Kailah I don't want to hear any complaining.

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