The fact is if you actually want to have a discussion it cant be one sided. What purpose does it serve? If your only goal is to make things worse keep that approachI still love the assumptions being made smh
Just think you need to realize that people have a right to feel a certain way about things regarding something you probably never experienced yourself. Let anyone feel how they feel about a situation and stop trying to rationalize or convince anyone otherwise.
Then it's not a discussion. The fact is--Nia did things that aren't going to be forgotten overnight. That has nothing to do with her race or anything else. That has to do with what she did. And, yes, a host is going to care far more about physical violence than a DUI even though people here refuse to acknowledge assault (even without an arrest) is the US anyway is considered a bigger crime than a DUI. As a lawyer I know this. As should all Americans.
I'm not saying one can't be upset about the comment. It clearly shows that he doesn't know that Nia has changed but, at the same time, one has to be able to set emotions aside and comprehend why it was said without turning it into a huge issue. Again, yes, it is being overblown and the overreaction is ridiculous. Being mad/frustrated/annoyed/pick your word is acceptable and understandable...creating more of it than what actually exists isn't. Do we need to post the clip from Portland that the host clearly recalls and wouldn't want to see that as part of his show?
I am curious, how did y'all think about how Ty handled the black face situation with Emily? And given Emily's pass, do you think you, yourself, would've forgiven her? For the record, I'm not black, but I love any thread that fosters conversation of misrepresentation or lack there of, of other races/ethnicities. As a Latino, I know I have experience a lot of family members saying some micro-aggressive comments in regarding to black culture, and I feel the need to learn what's acceptable and not, to start correct their and my habits as well.
Ive only seen sporadic episodes of that atrocious season; that one definitely wasn't one of them so I couldn't tell you lmao but the signs were clearly always there with Trash. As far as Emily goes I still don't really know if I buy that she was truly unaware b/c I know the Mormon religion is very cult-like but have some racist beliefs at the core of it.
But she did also seem genuinely sorry (plus she hasn't had anymore incidents since then) and as far as I know, she hated that religion & denounced it so I personally don't hold it against her anymore.
Side note: THIS is how you start a discussion if you really want to have one. Shame this needs to be pointed out, for a middle-aged man at that.
in other news, I wish we saw more of Shavonda, Janelle, Brianna, & Brittni,
Agreed. Especially Brittini & Janelle. I think both could have been great for the show. I'd add Irulan, Arissa, Christena, Chanda & Roni to that list as well. Hell, even Angel should have been given a second chance.
Chanda was actually cast for inferno 3 but dropped, or was it duel? irulan was on for gauntlet 2 but dropped after her breakup with alton and arissa was dropped as well from battle of the seasons 2012 her and frank were originally supposed to be alton & trishelle's partner.
He is saying Nia should behave, but I would bet money he wouldnt the same to the toothbrush brothers despite their history ...
Isn't Nia a liability risk for MTV? Honestly, isn't it hard for them to cast her (if she wanted to be cast) because it's difficult to insure her due to the 2 incidents? If I was a host of a show and I wasn't up to date on everything she was doing I'd say the same thing. I'd also say the same thing about CT, Brad, Tonya, Tina, Abram, etc because of their past. I don't know what he thinks of Evan or Kenny but I'm far more concerned about someone hitting someone on a show then things that couldn't happen. Evan & Kenny can't use a toothbrush on anyone during the show. People can't be driving while drunk on the show. But someone can hit someone. Right?
Listen, I get the comment was unnecessary and ignorant but some are taking it to another level. Her actions are her actions. That's part of who she was and it's what people are going to remember. She was Hurricane Nia and let's not pretend she wasn't all about the branding. That branding only strengthens the argument about how intelligent she is.
Joe personally I side eyed Emily for a while because of that, but like Graphik said she showed some genuine remorse for her ignorance. Which is more than we can say for everybody else.
what was more understated in that situation is that she asked Camila multiple times if it was racist and her Brazilian *** told a bold face lie. Brazil has a longgg history of black face and a lot of their own people have naturally dark complexions. Then when Emily felt remorse after the incident Camila gonna tell her it's Ty's fault he can't take a joke.
chile the signs were ALWAYS there for that one all I'm gonna say
I'm trying to understand how Nia isn't forgiven for what she did. and yes she was wrong for what she said and did to Jordan, and ya'll know I stan but i'm a level headed stan and call my faves out when they're wrong.
y'all want Nia to forever be a pariah of the Challenge, but ya'll want us to forgive and welcome back racist Camilla with open arms. don't forget what Nia did, but get over what Camilla did is kind of like saying don't forget about 9/11, but get over slavery.
King-lmh wrote: in other news, I wish we saw more of Shavonda, Janelle, Brianna, & Brittni,
Agreed. Especially Brittini & Janelle. I think both could have been great for the show. I'd add Irulan, Arissa, Christena, Chanda & Roni to that list as well. Hell, even Angel should have been given a second chance.
Chanda was actually cast for inferno 3 but dropped, or was it duel? irulan was on for gauntlet 2 but dropped after her breakup with alton and arissa was dropped as well from battle of the seasons 2012 her and frank were originally supposed to be alton & trishelle's partner.
I didn't know about Chanda. I was really upset when Arissa & Frank got dropped. That old school Vegas team would have been great to see. I knew Irulan dropped from G2 but I didn't know why. She would have been a very nice addition that season. Is she the reason Jo showed up? lol G2 was a disaster
I am curious, how did y'all think about how Ty handled the black face situation with Emily? And given Emily's p***, do you think you, yourself, would've forgiven her? For the record, I'm not black, but I love any thread that fosters conversation of misrepresentation or lack there of, of other races/ethnicities. As a Latino, I know I have experience a lot of family members saying some micro-aggressive comments in regarding to black culture, and I feel the need to learn what's acceptable and not, to start correct their and my habits as well.
Well some layers have been added to that situation being that Camila was the one who helped Emily do that mess then decided to go on a racist rant years later so she is the main one I'm looking at funny. I think Ty initiallly ignored her *** which is what I probably woud've did before getting her together and Emily being raised in a cult wasn't a good excuse to me because they left that group when she was around 14 and she is from Missouri where there is a large black population. At the end of the day I don't think she is racist just a ignorant moment that I hope she has grown from.
Isn't Nia a liability risk for MTV? Honestly, isn't it hard for them to cast her (if she wanted to be cast) because it's difficult to insure her due to the 2 incidents? If I was a host of a show and I wasn't up to date on everything she was doing I'd say the same thing. I'd also say the same thing about CT, Brad, Tonya, Tina, Abram, etc because of their past. I don't know what he thinks of Evan or Kenny but I'm far more concerned about someone hitting someone on a show then things that couldn't happen. Evan & Kenny can't use a toothbrush on anyone during the show. People can't be driving while drunk on the show. But someone can hit someone. Right? Listen, I get the comment was unnecessary and ignorant but some are taking it to another level. Her actions are her actions. That's part of who she was and it's what people are going to remember. She was Hurricane Nia and let's not pretend she wasn't all about the branding. That branding only strengthens the argument about how intelligent she is.
I mean MTV is laughable when it comes to liabilities being that they pick and choose when to take action especially when Nia got in trouble for poking Jordan's ***** not the blow dryer massacre.
I'm trying to understand how Nia isn't forgiven for what she did. and yes she was wrong for what she said and did to Jordan, and ya'll know I stan but i'm a level headed stan and call my faves out when they're wrong.
y'all want Nia to forever be a pariah of the Challenge, but ya'll want us to forgive and welcome back racist Camilla with open arms. don't forget what Nia did, but get over what Camilla did is kind of like saying don't forget about 9/11, but get over slavery.
Someone wants people to welcome back Camila?
Pretty sure that both Nia and Camila, like most people, will be remembered by most fans for what they saw last...especially when it's bad.
Again, I'd love to see Nia on another challenge and I think the incident with Jordan is overblown but after what happened with Evan & Kenny she's a risk in terms of liability for MTV/BMP. It's not fair but that's how things work
Isn't Nia a liability risk for MTV? Honestly, isn't it hard for them to cast her (if she wanted to be cast) because it's difficult to insure her due to the 2 incidents? If I was a host of a show and I wasn't up to date on everything she was doing I'd say the same thing. I'd also say the same thing about CT, Brad, Tonya, Tina, Abram, etc because of their past. I don't know what he thinks of Evan or Kenny but I'm far more concerned about someone hitting someone on a show then things that couldn't happen. Evan & Kenny can't use a toothbrush on anyone during the show. People can't be driving while drunk on the show. But someone can hit someone. Right? Listen, I get the comment was unnecessary and ignorant but some are taking it to another level. Her actions are her actions. That's part of who she was and it's what people are going to remember. She was Hurricane Nia and let's not pretend she wasn't all about the branding. That branding only strengthens the argument about how intelligent she is.
I mean MTV is laughable when it comes to liabilities being that they pick and choose when to take action especially when Nia got in trouble for poking Jordan's ***** not the blow dryer massacre.
We agree--what happened with Jordan was practically nothing. MTV doesn't make the decisions on liability though--they just decide on who they're willing to pay to insure. They believe CT is worth the risk because of his fan base. They clearly don't feel that way about many others. I'm guessing Abram is an issue as well which is why we haven't seen more of him.
This whole conversation wasn't a reflection of what Nia did. I along with others take a issue because this man is friends with several other people from the show and has had people on that podcast who has been violent and done illegal shit and he is friends with Derrick who is aware of the behind the scenes mess too. If he was saying it in seriousness it looked hypocritical and if the comment was a joke it was in poor taste and you don't joke like that with people you don't know.
Joe personally I side eyed Emily for a while because of that, but like Graphik said she showed some genuine remorse for her ignorance. Which is more than we can say for everybody else.what was more understated in that situation is that she asked Camila multiple times if it was racist and her Brazilian *** told a bold face lie. Brazil has a longgg history of black face and a lot of their own people have naturally dark complexions. Then when Emily felt remorse after the incident Camila gonna tell her it's Ty's fault he can't take a joke.chile the signs were ALWAYS there for that one all I'm gonna say
In regards to Camilla, yes there are signs of her blatant racism. Also, despite the large amount of African-diaspora, racism is so rampant. I digress. Does anyone know if Black face holds the same weight in other countries? I mean, I know it is still vehemently offensive, but has it been addressed as such in other countries like it has in the USA? Cause I know they still do that in Netherlands or at least to some extent there.
Joe personally I side eyed Emily for a while because of that, but like Graphik said she showed some genuine remorse for her ignorance. Which is more than we can say for everybody else.what was more understated in that situation is that she asked Camila multiple times if it was racist and her Brazilian *** told a bold face lie. Brazil has a longgg history of black face and a lot of their own people have naturally dark complexions. Then when Emily felt remorse after the incident Camila gonna tell her it's Ty's fault he can't take a joke.chile the signs were ALWAYS there for that one all I'm gonna say
In regards to Camilla, yes there are signs of her blatant racism. Also, despite the large amount of African-diaspora, racism is so rampant. I digress. Does anyone know if Black face holds the same weight in other countries? I mean, I know it is still vehemently offensive, but has it been addressed as such in other countries like it has in the USA? Cause I know they still do that in Netherlands or at least to some extent there.
possibly not addressed due to a silent minority of black people in those nations, I know in Asian countries it's regularly on TV in a very caricature way too. Exaggerated big lips, Afro, painted skin, "yo yo yo" and the like. In spite of knowing that it is ignorant, due to the overwhelming majority of those countries being made up of the same racial group it's never addressed in the way it needs to be. Who's gonna check them and why should they care?
Same could be said about dangerous racist caricatures of Asian people in non Asian countries. Although not black face so I wouldn't know the large history behind if there was a minstrelsy in place but I have a brain and know that if I ignorantly mock an Asian person it's offensive. you catch my drift
TuesDaze wrote:Joe personally I side eyed Emily for a while because of that, but like Graphik said she showed some genuine remorse for her ignorance. Which is more than we can say for everybody else.what was more understated in that situation is that she asked Camila multiple times if it was racist and her Brazilian *** told a bold face lie. Brazil has a longgg history of black face and a lot of their own people have naturally dark complexions. Then when Emily felt remorse after the incident Camila gonna tell her it's Ty's fault he can't take a joke.chile the signs were ALWAYS there for that one all I'm gonna say
In regards to Camilla, yes there are signs of her blatant racism. Also, despite the large amount of African-diaspora, racism is so rampant. I digress. Does anyone know if Black face holds the same weight in other countries? I mean, I know it is still vehemently offensive, but has it been addressed as such in other countries like it has in the USA? Cause I know they still do that in Netherlands or at least to some extent there.
possibly not addressed due to a silent minority of black people in those nations, I know in Asian countries it's regularly on TV in a very caricature way too. Exaggerated big lips, Afro, painted skin, "yo yo yo" and the like. In spite of knowing that it is ignorant due to the overwhelming majority of those countries being made up of the same racial group it's never addressed in the way it needs to be. Who's gonna check them and why should they care?
Oh yeah, Asia is pretty problematic with that stuff.
This whole conversation wasn't a reflection of what Nia did. I along with others take a issue because this man is friends with several other people from the show and has had people on that podcast who has been violent and done illegal shit and he is friends with Derrick who is aware of the behind the scenes mess too. If he was saying it in seriousness it looked hypocritical and if the comment was a joke it was in poor taste and you don't joke like that with people you don't know.
But it is a reflection of what Nia did. That's why the comment was made by the host. I do agree the "joke" was in poor taste.
Joe personally I side eyed Emily for a while because of that, but like Graphik said she showed some genuine remorse for her ignorance. Which is more than we can say for everybody else.what was more understated in that situation is that she asked Camila multiple times if it was racist and her Brazilian *** told a bold face lie. Brazil has a longgg history of black face and a lot of their own people have naturally dark complexions. Then when Emily felt remorse after the incident Camila gonna tell her it's Ty's fault he can't take a joke.chile the signs were ALWAYS there for that one all I'm gonna say
I've been thinking about this incident for years and it was only a matter of time until Camila's true colors came out. That situation just leaves a bad taste in my mouth I honestly can't watch Exes because of it. Also, the main reason I don't care for Emily but I get she's learned from that.
TuesDaze wrote:Anybody remember Malik from RW New York? I was watching some old seasons I may have missed and I loved him. He was so centered I enjoyed him
WHERE? I finally saw some of B2NY & loved it but YouTube took it all down before I I could download them smmfh
I bought it on Amazon for $10 with prime, a decent season too. Had to see Mother Corals origins
you mean ''the real world you never saw'' 45 minute special on unseen footage?
As a Latino, I know I have experience a lot of family members saying some micro-aggressive comments in regarding to black culture, and I feel the need to learn what's acceptable and not, to start correct their and my habits as well.
this really is a big issue with us latinos, at least from where i’m from and i feel like it’s been so normalized? and it’s really sad
TuesDaze wrote:Anybody remember Malik from RW New York? I was watching some old seasons I may have missed and I loved him. He was so centered I enjoyed him
WHERE? I finally saw some of B2NY & loved it but YouTube took it all down before I I could download them smmfh
I bought it on Amazon for $10 with prime, a decent season too. Had to see Mother Corals origins
you mean ''the real world you never saw'' 45 minute special on unseen footage?
there’s that but I read that’s not much just intros, and outside footage. I’ve got the season tho I’m looking now and Graphik is right that hoe is no where lol
This thread is here to celebrate the melanin that has graced our screens over the years not ruin it with toxic opinions. If it's so ridiculous then you have hundreds of threads to attend were that behavior is allowed and probably respected.
That's kind of a shallow opinion of things then. You want the thread to be about people who only agree with you? How are we supposed to learn and function together then?
The fact of the matter is Scott's comment to Nia was in poor taste, but it isn't exactly unwarranted. This is a woman who beat 2 people's ***** on her RW season, almost flung Jasmine off the stage at an aftershow, and who went around wrecking Nany standing on a table and calling her a cum-guzzling ****, and then poking Jordan's ********** and screaming at the whole house. Don't get me wrong, I was team Nia in all of those situations. It doesn't change the fact that they were very intense moments on the show that won't be easily forgotten. That is her legacy on these shows, was that she took shit from no one and was very aggressive when provoked.
To say KVM doesn't have a point just is dismissing an important discussion we could be having. I for one don't see telling a woman who has repeatedly been violent and aggressive to behave having anything to do with race. Britni and Cohutta got DUIs, which is not a violent/aggressive crime. Kind of a false equivalency to say "why didn't he tell them to behave"? What does driving drunk have to do with behavior during an interview? Nia's legacy on the show is that she was very aggressive when provoked. VERY. I'm not saying she was wrong in any of those situations, but I do see KVM's point. If they were interviewing CT circa the Duel II and such, I would probably expect them to say the same thing is my point.
As a Latino, I know I have experience a lot of family members saying some micro-aggressive comments in regarding to black culture, and I feel the need to learn what's acceptable and not, to start correct their and my habits as well.
this really is a big issue with us latinos, at least from where i’m from and i feel like it’s been so normalized? and it’s really sad
My fellow coworker and I were having a long discussion at lunch about colorism within Latin America and some people at the table were super uncomfortable about the discussion but her and I were like well this NEEDS to be discussed bc it IS a problem. It’s a problem in the media, the government, workplaces, and various cultures.
What I don’t understand is when you have major networks that DO have these platforms and don’t do things the proper way. Like that half assed special after Camila’s Cancelled party. 45 min of that isn’t gonna change America. How about they start by showing more of the real things like the whole convo Devin, Amanda, Shane R, and Simone were having on XXX? I’m glad they did show Day/Nelly tho
Then it's not a discussion. The fact is--Nia did things that aren't going to be forgotten overnight. That has nothing to do with her race or anything else. That has to do with what she did. And, yes, a host is going to care far more about physical violence than a DUI even though people here refuse to acknowledge assault (even without an arrest) is the US anyway is considered a bigger crime than a DUI. As a lawyer I know this. As should all Americans.
I'm not saying one can't be upset about the comment. It clearly shows that he doesn't know that Nia has changed but, at the same time, one has to be able to set emotions aside and comprehend why it was said without turning it into a huge issue. Again, yes, it is being overblown and the overreaction is ridiculous. Being mad/frustrated/annoyed/pick your word is acceptable and understandable...creating more of it than what actually exists isn't. Do we need to post the clip from Portland that the host clearly recalls and wouldn't want to see that as part of his show?
Ive only seen sporadic episodes of that atrocious season; that one definitely wasn't one of them so I couldn't tell you lmao but the signs were clearly always there with Trash. As far as Emily goes I still don't really know if I buy that she was truly unaware b/c I know the Mormon religion is very cult-like but have some racist beliefs at the core of it.
But she did also seem genuinely sorry (plus she hasn't had anymore incidents since then) and as far as I know, she hated that religion & denounced it so I personally don't hold it against her anymore.
Side note: THIS is how you start a discussion if you really want to have one. Shame this needs to be pointed out, for a middle-aged man at that.
He is saying Nia should behave, but I would bet money he wouldnt say the same to the toothbrush brothers despite their history ...
Chanda was actually cast for inferno 3 but dropped, or was it duel? irulan was on for gauntlet 2 but dropped after her breakup with alton and arissa was dropped as well from battle of the seasons 2012 her and frank were originally supposed to be alton & trishelle's partner.
whew chile the truth!
Isn't Nia a liability risk for MTV? Honestly, isn't it hard for them to cast her (if she wanted to be cast) because it's difficult to insure her due to the 2 incidents? If I was a host of a show and I wasn't up to date on everything she was doing I'd say the same thing. I'd also say the same thing about CT, Brad, Tonya, Tina, Abram, etc because of their past. I don't know what he thinks of Evan or Kenny but I'm far more concerned about someone hitting someone on a show then things that couldn't happen. Evan & Kenny can't use a toothbrush on anyone during the show. People can't be driving while drunk on the show. But someone can hit someone. Right?
Listen, I get the comment was unnecessary and ignorant but some are taking it to another level. Her actions are her actions. That's part of who she was and it's what people are going to remember. She was Hurricane Nia and let's not pretend she wasn't all about the branding. That branding only strengthens the argument about how intelligent she is.
Joe personally I side eyed Emily for a while because of that, but like Graphik said she showed some genuine remorse for her ignorance. Which is more than we can say for everybody else.
what was more understated in that situation is that she asked Camila multiple times if it was racist and her Brazilian *** told a bold face lie. Brazil has a longgg history of black face and a lot of their own people have naturally dark complexions. Then when Emily felt remorse after the incident Camila gonna tell her it's Ty's fault he can't take a joke.
chile the signs were ALWAYS there for that one all I'm gonna say
I'm trying to understand how Nia isn't forgiven for what she did. and yes she was wrong for what she said and did to Jordan, and ya'll know I stan but i'm a level headed stan and call my faves out when they're wrong.
y'all want Nia to forever be a pariah of the Challenge, but ya'll want us to forgive and welcome back racist Camilla with open arms. don't forget what Nia did, but get over what Camilla did is kind of like saying don't forget about 9/11, but get over slavery.
I didn't know about Chanda. I was really upset when Arissa & Frank got dropped. That old school Vegas team would have been great to see. I knew Irulan dropped from G2 but I didn't know why. She would have been a very nice addition that season. Is she the reason Jo showed up? lol G2 was a disaster
Well some layers have been added to that situation being that Camila was the one who helped Emily do that mess then decided to go on a racist rant years later so she is the main one I'm looking at funny. I think Ty initiallly ignored her *** which is what I probably woud've did before getting her together and Emily being raised in a cult wasn't a good excuse to me because they left that group when she was around 14 and she is from Missouri where there is a large black population. At the end of the day I don't think she is racist just a ignorant moment that I hope she has grown from.
I mean MTV is laughable when it comes to liabilities being that they pick and choose when to take action especially when Nia got in trouble for poking Jordan's ***** not the blow dryer massacre.
Someone wants people to welcome back Camila?
Pretty sure that both Nia and Camila, like most people, will be remembered by most fans for what they saw last...especially when it's bad.
Again, I'd love to see Nia on another challenge and I think the incident with Jordan is overblown but after what happened with Evan & Kenny she's a risk in terms of liability for MTV/BMP. It's not fair but that's how things work
We agree--what happened with Jordan was practically nothing. MTV doesn't make the decisions on liability though--they just decide on who they're willing to pay to insure. They believe CT is worth the risk because of his fan base. They clearly don't feel that way about many others. I'm guessing Abram is an issue as well which is why we haven't seen more of him.
This whole conversation wasn't a reflection of what Nia did. I along with others take a issue because this man is friends with several other people from the show and has had people on that podcast who has been violent and done illegal shit and he is friends with Derrick who is aware of the behind the scenes mess too. If he was saying it in seriousness it looked hypocritical and if the comment was a joke it was in poor taste and you don't joke like that with people you don't know.
In regards to Camilla, yes there are signs of her blatant racism. Also, despite the large amount of African-diaspora, racism is so rampant. I digress. Does anyone know if Black face holds the same weight in other countries? I mean, I know it is still vehemently offensive, but has it been addressed as such in other countries like it has in the USA? Cause I know they still do that in Netherlands or at least to some extent there.
possibly not addressed due to a silent minority of black people in those nations, I know in Asian countries it's regularly on TV in a very caricature way too. Exaggerated big lips, Afro, painted skin, "yo yo yo" and the like. In spite of knowing that it is ignorant, due to the overwhelming majority of those countries being made up of the same racial group it's never addressed in the way it needs to be. Who's gonna check them and why should they care?
Same could be said about dangerous racist caricatures of Asian people in non Asian countries. Although not black face so I wouldn't know the large history behind if there was a minstrelsy in place but I have a brain and know that if I ignorantly mock an Asian person it's offensive. you catch my drift
Oh yeah, Asia is pretty problematic with that stuff.
But it is a reflection of what Nia did. That's why the comment was made by the host. I do agree the "joke" was in poor taste.
Anybody remember Malik from RW New York? I was watching some old seasons I may have missed and I loved him. He was so centered I enjoyed him
WHERE? I finally saw some of B2NY & loved it but YouTube took it all down before I I could download them smmfh
I bought it on Amazon for $10 with prime, a decent season too. Had to see Mother Corals origins
Just seeing those REAL conversations Coral, Malik, and Nicole had. Just unfiltered genuine conversation
I've been thinking about this incident for years and it was only a matter of time until Camila's true colors came out. That situation just leaves a bad taste in my mouth I honestly can't watch Exes because of it. Also, the main reason I don't care for Emily but I get she's learned from that.
you mean ''the real world you never saw'' 45 minute special on unseen footage?
this really is a big issue with us latinos, at least from where i’m from and i feel like it’s been so normalized? and it’s really sad
I think he was supposed to be on The Gauntlet until the location changed. Would have loved to have seen him on The Challenge
there’s that but I read that’s not much just intros, and outside footage. I’ve got the season tho I’m looking now and Graphik is right that hoe is no where lol
That's kind of a shallow opinion of things then. You want the thread to be about people who only agree with you? How are we supposed to learn and function together then?
The fact of the matter is Scott's comment to Nia was in poor taste, but it isn't exactly unwarranted. This is a woman who beat 2 people's ***** on her RW season, almost flung Jasmine off the stage at an aftershow, and who went around wrecking Nany standing on a table and calling her a cum-guzzling ****, and then poking Jordan's ********** and screaming at the whole house. Don't get me wrong, I was team Nia in all of those situations. It doesn't change the fact that they were very intense moments on the show that won't be easily forgotten. That is her legacy on these shows, was that she took shit from no one and was very aggressive when provoked.
To say KVM doesn't have a point just is dismissing an important discussion we could be having. I for one don't see telling a woman who has repeatedly been violent and aggressive to behave having anything to do with race. Britni and Cohutta got DUIs, which is not a violent/aggressive crime. Kind of a false equivalency to say "why didn't he tell them to behave"? What does driving drunk have to do with behavior during an interview? Nia's legacy on the show is that she was very aggressive when provoked. VERY. I'm not saying she was wrong in any of those situations, but I do see KVM's point. If they were interviewing CT circa the Duel II and such, I would probably expect them to say the same thing is my point.
My fellow coworker and I were having a long discussion at lunch about colorism within Latin America and some people at the table were super uncomfortable about the discussion but her and I were like well this NEEDS to be discussed bc it IS a problem. It’s a problem in the media, the government, workplaces, and various cultures.
What I don’t understand is when you have major networks that DO have these platforms and don’t do things the proper way. Like that half assed special after Camila’s Cancelled party. 45 min of that isn’t gonna change America. How about they start by showing more of the real things like the whole convo Devin, Amanda, Shane R, and Simone were having on XXX? I’m glad they did show Day/Nelly tho
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