when you state your own opinion, and say that specifically, only to be told you're wrong. even though I said others have different opinions and i'm not one to knock theirs.
i never said jumpscares are solely what make a movie scary either... concept mixed with the right use of jumpscares do. Also I said any horror movie can be good.. i'm fully aware The Witch, It Follows, and The Babadook (which I have yet to watch but it is continuously put in the same pile, so i'm going by that and from what i've heard elsewhere) are all very well made and good horror films in their specific genres. I am talking about what the perfect combination would be for a top horror film (which I don't think, PERSONALLY, can be decided based on how broad the genre is). Like I said, in my opinion (no this is not yours and i am not speaking for everyone, so please remove your head out of your ***), a perfect combo would be a movie that scares you in the theatre, leaves you uneasy afterwards, great directing/acting, and a creepy concept. These types of movies can range all over the place across a spectrum.. The Exorcist (supernatural/horror), Jaws (creature feature), The Descent (creature feature/psychological), The Ring (supernatural/psychological horror), Psycho (psychological/slasher), The Shining (slow burn), Halloween (slasher), etc. All of these movies scared me when I saw them and had lasting impacts. I personally can't find that in It Follows or The Witch.. and presumably The Babadook (I am still willing to give it a shot, though). Having said all that, I preferrably like to look at horror movies and rank them by their sub-genres. Like you said, there are some sub-genres in a league of their own like the comedy genre.. CITW, Scream, You're Next, etc all great movies in their specific sub-genre.
So yeah, maybe The Babadook is the best slow-burner of the 2010s... but to me, it's not the best horror film of the 2010s.. maybe it is to you, but you don't speak for everyone. That is my opinion and i'm sticking to it. Please do not patronize me for having a different opinion than yours.
ugh i hate this nonstop arguing over horror movies haha... sorry for starting it up again. Anyone see 10 Cloverfield Lane yet?? I saw it in theatres but it just hit the net... great ******* movie! excited to watch it again now
Ummm hello, opinions can be wrong, I mean it's an opinion of course it will be far fetched from reality and facts to a certain degree.
Yes you didn't say that jumpscares are solely what make a movie scary, but what you did say is that supposedly if a horror movie doesn't scare you (the audience) then it doesn't qualify to be in the top of a legitimate 100% accurate list, this I actually agree with, my problem is what most moviegoers such as yourself qualify as scary, people like Bischoff probably measure the scariness of a film by how packed it is with jumpscares (sorry Bischoff but this is just my humble observation) which greatly annoys me. You said yourself that films like It Follows and The Witch failed to scare you, then I have to ask you, if we eliminate those type of films then what exactly are we left with ?....Annabelle...The Gallows....Ouija...."insert name of another dumb film"...EXACTLY, the point I'm trying to make is that The Babadook is the best horror film of the decade, that's it, it's not the best of the century, nor is it the best of all time, but it's defnitley, DEFENITLEY the best of the decade (so far), because if it's not, then what the **** is ? Please leave a suggestion of what you think is the best horror film of the decade then.
You haven't understood the reasoning why I praise The Witch and It Follows so much and why I found them dreadful;
The Witch is literally what every horror film should be, building the tension and the atmosphere of an environment should be a priority of every filmmaker because otherwise everything would seem pointless. The Witch (much like The Babadook) takes it time to tell a story, of a ****** up family and their dramatic fallout, the characters behaviour and actions are far more creepier and sinister than any extraterrestrial, or paranormal event that could of happened and I thank the writers for not taking the easy route instead of what they've done which is exploring the dark side of humanity and that is far more relatable.
It Follows is an original idea with some loop holes but the direction, the score and the execution overshadows the film's errors, much like The Witch, the movie takes its time to develop its main character (which many other films fail tremendously to do) and build thick tension that sticks until the end.
Both films depend on the fear of the unknown to scare the audience, which they succeed to do, I think why most of you have a problem with these two films is because of the overhype and the buzz before the release that leads to false expectations and results to disappointment, which is not the film's fault. Either that or you just don't understand the film, period.
What I also like about The Witch and The Babadook is the deeper meanings they offer that could be analysed and that is the fun part of it all.
(I also chose to ignore your snarky unnecessary comment because it proves you can't handle a legitimate conversation, that my friend is an opinion, an opinion that could be proven wrong)
i saw the premiere of the witch long before the buzz got huge... i thought it was very well made, as I have stated previously. If you boil it down to the main parts within the film, it is a perfect witch story. I did find it a tad too slow and the payoff could have been a lot more climatic then 3 minutes of a goat, a murder, and a bonfire coven, but it was still good. Also the old english was really hard to get through too... it made it more authentic but it was difficult lol
also i am currently watching the babadook right now.. about halfway through. Defintely a psychological horror and I like the concept of the son being troubled therefore when everything starts, no one believes him. It is definitely slow and nothing has phased me yet, but i'm enjoying it enough to finish it haha I just wish the two main characters were more bearable. I can't stand either of them.
okay finished the babadook... great movie!!! apparently right after i made that "slow" comment, it kicked into high gear and the last half was amazing. Also i loved the creepy poems and all the psychological elements. I just read this comment on imdb that made so much sense and makes the movie that much more amazing. beware spoilers below**
"It's a study of what happens to the mind when emotions are buried and not dealt with. Is the Babadook representative of an emotional monster or is he real? The short answer is he's both. Psychological problems are very real but how they manifest is another thing and can be as dangerous as any real physical entity. So did the mother create the Babdook book? No one's telling but one would think yes, she did (she used to be a writer and she made the offhand comment that she did some kid's stuff). Plus the mom never says to her son that she loves him, even though he says it several times to her. The inability to love your own child is a breeding ground for all sorts of psychological instabilities, especially when you're all alone, lost your beloved husband, sleep deprived, overworked and dealing with a precocious, overly aware seven year old child. And the ending? Is it telling us that problems don't just miraculously go away, they are always there under the surface and need to be dealt with, worked on, coddled and pacified. Mental illness is like that."
Definitley joins my list of fav horror films from the 2010s
I also liked it a hell of a lot more than It Follows and The Witch.. just sayin
Ummm hello, opinions can be wrong, I mean it's an opinion of course it will be far fetched from reality and facts to a certain degree.Yes you didn't say that jumpscares are solely what make a movie scary, but what you did say is that supposedly if a horror movie doesn't scare you (the audience) then it doesn't qualify to be in the top of a legitimate 100% accurate list, this I actually agree with, my problem is what most moviegoers such as yourself qualify as scary, people like Bischoff probably measure the scariness of a film by how packed it is with jumpscares (sorry Bischoff but this is just my humble observation) which greatly annoys me. You said yourself that films like It Follows and The Witch failed to scare you, then I have to ask you, if we eliminate those type of films then what exactly are we left with ?....Annabelle...The Gallows....Ouija...."insert name of another dumb film"...EXACTLY, the point I'm trying to make is that The Babadook is the best horror film of the decade, that's it, it's not the best of the century, nor is it the best of all time, but it's defnitley, DEFENITLEY the best of the decade (so far), because if it's not, then what the **** is ? Please leave a suggestion of what you think is the best horror film of the decade then. You haven't understood the reasoning why I praise The Witch and It Follows so much and why I found them dreadful;The Witch is literally what every horror film should be, building the tension and the atmosphere of an environment should be a priority of every filmmaker because otherwise everything would seem pointless. The Witch (much like The Babadook) takes it time to tell a story, of a ****** up family and their dramatic fallout, the characters behaviour and actions are far more creepier and sinister than any extraterrestrial, or paranormal event that could of happened and I thank the writers for not taking the easy route instead of what they've done which is exploring the dark side of humanity and that is far more relatable.It Follows is an original idea with some loop holes but the direction, the score and the execution overshadows the film's errors, much like The Witch, the movie takes its time to develop its main character (which many other films fail tremendously to do) and build thick tension that sticks until the end. Both films depend on the fear of the unknown to scare the audience, which they succeed to do, I think why most of you have a problem with these two films is because of the overhype and the buzz before the release that leads to false expectations and results to disappointment, which is not the film's fault. Either that or you just don't understand the film, period.What I also like about The Witch and The Babadook is the deeper meanings they offer that could be analysed and that is the fun part of it all.(I also chose to ignore your snarky unnecessary comment because it proves you can't handle a legitimate conversation, that my friend is an opinion, an opinion that could be proven wrong)
The reason i didn't list any movies because everyone has their own opinions on what scares them or what doesn't. On what they like or don't like in a horror movies. My favorite will always be the Scream movies & nothing beats that for me. Just because I enjoyed the Gallows or the Boy doesn't mean I think there the greatest movies or even that good. But I just like horror movies in general, so if I go watch them & they entertain me I am okay with that. I don't have to cry about every little thing like you. Also I don't recall saying It Follows or Babadook were bad movies. I actually own It Follows on dvd. I just said there not the best horror movies ever like some claim. The Witch I haven't even seen yet, so I have no opinion on that. I saw Green Room last week which I really liked & recommend you all to see. My only issue with you DF is you claim to be such a big horror fan, but you can't seem to enjoy all it has to offer. Like you hate on The Strangers & the Conjuring, but that stuff could be considered scary to some people.
of the current decade, some of my faves have been The Cabin in the Woods, The Loved Ones, The Crazies, and You're Next... i'm a sucker for slasher these were all really well made in my opinion and all have great rewatchability
The **** haven't they made a sequel to You're Next yet? I'm waiting....
Looks like Trisha, both Taggarts, and Rhonda are indeed returning for Jeepers Creepers 3 which will debut 2017. I'm mad the psychic and Minxie isn't coming back
"It's a study of what happens to the mind when emotions are buried and not dealt with. Is the Babadook representative of an emotional monster or is he real? The short answer is he's both. Psychological problems are very real but how they manifest is another thing and can be as dangerous as any real physical entity. So did the mother create the Babdook book? No one's telling but one would think yes, she did (she used to be a writer and she made the offhand comment that she did some kid's stuff). Plus the mom never says to her son that she loves him, even though he says it several times to her. The inability to love your own child is a breeding ground for all sorts of psychological instabilities, especially when you're all alone, lost your beloved husband, sleep deprived, overworked and dealing with a precocious, overly aware seven year old child. And the ending? Is it telling us that problems don't just miraculously go away, they are always there under the surface and need to be dealt with, worked on, coddled and pacified. Mental illness is like that."
This is why The Babadook is one of the best horror films this decade. It's not just some monster movie, it's a movie about grief and depression. As a psychology ****, you really can analyze this film and what you find is something that can be deep. It's not the usual horror films about "what's that noise?!" It's about the scariest and more realistic things about, in some way, mental illness and depression and how that can effect you.
The Witch and It Follows are very also effective horror films. Did I jump or cover my eyes? Nope! But it had this uneasiness and disturbing take and that's what made it effective. I blame the way these films are being marketed and audiences rushing to see it because it's being marketed as the next Conjuring. They didn't rely on jump scares, they relied on the environment and buildup to what's to come next.
I can't judge The Boy or The Forest because frankly I stopped watching those kind of crap horror movies since the remake of Poltergeist came out, a movie I walked out on btw -_-
Here's a trailer for The Woods. It doesn't show much in this trailer, but their already hyping this horror film to be the scariest ever made. http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3390396/woods-trailer-boasts-one-scariest-movies-ever/
Here's a trailer for The Woods. It doesn't show much in this trailer, but their already hyping this horror film to be the scariest ever made. http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3390396/woods-trailer-boasts-one-scariest-movies-ever/
I'm excited!!
Me too! I hope it can live up to expectations since Lionsgate said they haven't been this sure about a movie since Paranormal Activity. Anyone have a guesss to want evil thing could be lurking in these Woods?
My only issue with you DF is you claim to be such a big horror fan, but you can't seem to enjoy all it has to offer. Like you hate on The Strangers & the Conjuring, but that stuff could be considered scary to some people.
***** !!!! That's like saying "Oh, you claim to be a huge fan of food, but you can't seem to enjoy all it has to offer". No shit sherlock, of course I'm not gonna enjoy all of what it has to offer since some of what it offers is complete shit.
That's like saying "Oh, you like chicken salad, lasagna and salmon with rice but you can't seem to enjoy fermented shark meat (if you don't know what this is...good, keep it that way)"
That's like saying "Oh, you like Audi, BMW and Lexus but you can't seem to enjoy a Chrysler"
that's like saying "Oh, you like likeable things but you can't seem to enjoy dog shit"
And I only dislike the strangers because it's one of the dumbest, cliché filled movies to ever step a foot on a screen. I like the Conjuring, but I still think it's beyond overrated.
Nothing will ever **** me up quite like Signs.
when you state your own opinion, and say that specifically, only to be told you're wrong. even though I said others have different opinions and i'm not one to knock theirs.
i never said jumpscares are solely what make a movie scary either... concept mixed with the right use of jumpscares do. Also I said any horror movie can be good.. i'm fully aware The Witch, It Follows, and The Babadook (which I have yet to watch but it is continuously put in the same pile, so i'm going by that and from what i've heard elsewhere) are all very well made and good horror films in their specific genres. I am talking about what the perfect combination would be for a top horror film (which I don't think, PERSONALLY, can be decided based on how broad the genre is). Like I said, in my opinion (no this is not yours and i am not speaking for everyone, so please remove your head out of your ***), a perfect combo would be a movie that scares you in the theatre, leaves you uneasy afterwards, great directing/acting, and a creepy concept. These types of movies can range all over the place across a spectrum.. The Exorcist (supernatural/horror), Jaws (creature feature), The Descent (creature feature/psychological), The Ring (supernatural/psychological horror), Psycho (psychological/slasher), The Shining (slow burn), Halloween (slasher), etc. All of these movies scared me when I saw them and had lasting impacts. I personally can't find that in It Follows or The Witch.. and presumably The Babadook (I am still willing to give it a shot, though). Having said all that, I preferrably like to look at horror movies and rank them by their sub-genres. Like you said, there are some sub-genres in a league of their own like the comedy genre.. CITW, Scream, You're Next, etc all great movies in their specific sub-genre.
So yeah, maybe The Babadook is the best slow-burner of the 2010s... but to me, it's not the best horror film of the 2010s.. maybe it is to you, but you don't speak for everyone. That is my opinion and i'm sticking to it. Please do not patronize me for having a different opinion than yours.
ugh i hate this nonstop arguing over horror movies haha... sorry for starting it up again. Anyone see 10 Cloverfield Lane yet?? I saw it in theatres but it just hit the net... great ******* movie! excited to watch it again now
Ummm hello, opinions can be wrong, I mean it's an opinion of course it will be far fetched from reality and facts to a certain degree.
Yes you didn't say that jumpscares are solely what make a movie scary, but what you did say is that supposedly if a horror movie doesn't scare you (the audience) then it doesn't qualify to be in the top of a legitimate 100% accurate list, this I actually agree with, my problem is what most moviegoers such as yourself qualify as scary, people like Bischoff probably measure the scariness of a film by how packed it is with jumpscares (sorry Bischoff but this is just my humble observation) which greatly annoys me. You said yourself that films like It Follows and The Witch failed to scare you, then I have to ask you, if we eliminate those type of films then what exactly are we left with ?....Annabelle...The Gallows....Ouija...."insert name of another dumb film"...EXACTLY, the point I'm trying to make is that The Babadook is the best horror film of the decade, that's it, it's not the best of the century, nor is it the best of all time, but it's defnitley, DEFENITLEY the best of the decade (so far), because if it's not, then what the **** is ? Please leave a suggestion of what you think is the best horror film of the decade then.
You haven't understood the reasoning why I praise The Witch and It Follows so much and why I found them dreadful;
The Witch is literally what every horror film should be, building the tension and the atmosphere of an environment should be a priority of every filmmaker because otherwise everything would seem pointless. The Witch (much like The Babadook) takes it time to tell a story, of a ****** up family and their dramatic fallout, the characters behaviour and actions are far more creepier and sinister than any extraterrestrial, or paranormal event that could of happened and I thank the writers for not taking the easy route instead of what they've done which is exploring the dark side of humanity and that is far more relatable.
It Follows is an original idea with some loop holes but the direction, the score and the execution overshadows the film's errors, much like The Witch, the movie takes its time to develop its main character (which many other films fail tremendously to do) and build thick tension that sticks until the end.
Both films depend on the fear of the unknown to scare the audience, which they succeed to do, I think why most of you have a problem with these two films is because of the overhype and the buzz before the release that leads to false expectations and results to disappointment, which is not the film's fault. Either that or you just don't understand the film, period.
What I also like about The Witch and The Babadook is the deeper meanings they offer that could be analysed and that is the fun part of it all.
(I also chose to ignore your snarky unnecessary comment because it proves you can't handle a legitimate conversation, that my friend is an opinion, an opinion that could be proven wrong)
So um yea...can't wait for Neighbors 2!!
i saw the premiere of the witch long before the buzz got huge... i thought it was very well made, as I have stated previously. If you boil it down to the main parts within the film, it is a perfect witch story. I did find it a tad too slow and the payoff could have been a lot more climatic then 3 minutes of a goat, a murder, and a bonfire coven, but it was still good. Also the old english was really hard to get through too... it made it more authentic but it was difficult lol
also i am currently watching the babadook right now.. about halfway through. Defintely a psychological horror and I like the concept of the son being troubled therefore when everything starts, no one believes him. It is definitely slow and nothing has phased me yet, but i'm enjoying it enough to finish it haha I just wish the two main characters were more bearable. I can't stand either of them.
okay finished the babadook... great movie!!! apparently right after i made that "slow" comment, it kicked into high gear and the last half was amazing. Also i loved the creepy poems and all the psychological elements. I just read this comment on imdb that made so much sense and makes the movie that much more amazing. beware spoilers below**
"It's a study of what happens to the mind when emotions are buried and not dealt with. Is the Babadook representative of an emotional monster or is he real? The short answer is he's both. Psychological problems are very real but how they manifest is another thing and can be as dangerous as any real physical entity. So did the mother create the Babdook book? No one's telling but one would think yes, she did (she used to be a writer and she made the offhand comment that she did some kid's stuff). Plus the mom never says to her son that she loves him, even though he says it several times to her. The inability to love your own child is a breeding ground for all sorts of psychological instabilities, especially when you're all alone, lost your beloved husband, sleep deprived, overworked and dealing with a precocious, overly aware seven year old child. And the ending? Is it telling us that problems don't just miraculously go away, they are always there under the surface and need to be dealt with, worked on, coddled and pacified. Mental illness is like that."
Definitley joins my list of fav horror films from the 2010s
I also liked it a hell of a lot more than It Follows and The Witch.. just sayin
The reason i didn't list any movies because everyone has their own opinions on what scares them or what doesn't. On what they like or don't like in a horror movies. My favorite will always be the Scream movies & nothing beats that for me. Just because I enjoyed the Gallows or the Boy doesn't mean I think there the greatest movies or even that good. But I just like horror movies in general, so if I go watch them & they entertain me I am okay with that. I don't have to cry about every little thing like you. Also I don't recall saying It Follows or Babadook were bad movies. I actually own It Follows on dvd. I just said there not the best horror movies ever like some claim. The Witch I haven't even seen yet, so I have no opinion on that. I saw Green Room last week which I really liked & recommend you all to see. My only issue with you DF is you claim to be such a big horror fan, but you can't seem to enjoy all it has to offer. Like you hate on The Strangers & the Conjuring, but that stuff could be considered scary to some people.
The **** haven't they made a sequel to You're Next yet? I'm waiting....
To quote White Chicks: "Ew! like not!!!"
So did anybody see the article that is speculating Dewey Rileuy may be the killer in Scream 5? Aka the Mastermind of it all?!
Looks like Trisha, both Taggarts, and Rhonda are indeed returning for Jeepers Creepers 3 which will debut 2017. I'm mad the psychic and Minxie isn't coming back
This is why The Babadook is one of the best horror films this decade. It's not just some monster movie, it's a movie about grief and depression. As a psychology ****, you really can analyze this film and what you find is something that can be deep. It's not the usual horror films about "what's that noise?!" It's about the scariest and more realistic things about, in some way, mental illness and depression and how that can effect you.
The Witch and It Follows are very also effective horror films. Did I jump or cover my eyes? Nope! But it had this uneasiness and disturbing take and that's what made it effective. I blame the way these films are being marketed and audiences rushing to see it because it's being marketed as the next Conjuring. They didn't rely on jump scares, they relied on the environment and buildup to what's to come next.
I can't judge The Boy or The Forest because frankly I stopped watching those kind of crap horror movies since the remake of Poltergeist came out, a movie I walked out on btw -_-
Same. That under door scene...
Here's a trailer for The Woods. It doesn't show much in this trailer, but their already hyping this horror film to be the scariest ever made.
http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3390396/woods-trailer-boasts-one-scariest-movies-ever/
I'm excited!!
Me too! I hope it can live up to expectations since Lionsgate said they haven't been this sure about a movie since Paranormal Activity. Anyone have a guesss to want evil thing could be lurking in these Woods?
It kind of reminded me of Evil Dead lol.
Lol i don't know what to think yet. They haven't released to much information.
Reviews are coming in for X men Apocalypse and it's not looking good.
ARE YOU SURPRISED? EVERY ******* MOVIE SINCE FC HAS BEEN SHIT.
Days of Future Past was awesome and was probably one of the best films of the franchise along with X2.
Lmaooo
This guy... smh
this guy nothing, not everybody loved FC or DOFP. The latter was really boring.
***** !!!! That's like saying "Oh, you claim to be a huge fan of food, but you can't seem to enjoy all it has to offer". No shit sherlock, of course I'm not gonna enjoy all of what it has to offer since some of what it offers is complete shit.
That's like saying "Oh, you like chicken salad, lasagna and salmon with rice but you can't seem to enjoy fermented shark meat (if you don't know what this is...good, keep it that way)"
That's like saying "Oh, you like Audi, BMW and Lexus but you can't seem to enjoy a Chrysler"
that's like saying "Oh, you like likeable things but you can't seem to enjoy dog shit"
And I only dislike the strangers because it's one of the dumbest, cliché filled movies to ever step a foot on a screen. I like the Conjuring, but I still think it's beyond overrated.
I'm actually going to see it this Wednesday, so hopefully the critics are just being overreactive (as usual).
Let us now how it is! I'm still planning on watching it but I'm preparing myself to be disappointed.
X2 goes hard. DOFP not really. It was like watching The Hulk
looks pretty good!!
also this movie looks beautiful and heartwrenching... and it stars my fassy <3 and one of my fav new actors on the scene, Alicia vikander
Dont Breathe looks really good
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