Bananas and Derrick deserved their Cutthroat final. Bananas/Derrick/Jenn/Emily would have easily crushed the Cutthroat final
You're definitely right on that if CT didn't turn Johnny Bananas into Johnny Backpack they would have won Cutthroat. But in all honesty I think Tyler would of beaten Bananas if it was a straight up 1 on 1 elimination round because Tyler was the bigger man and in that elimination round size did matter and at that time Tyler was hungry to prove himself so I think what ended up happening in the end was going to happen regardless of production bringing in the heavy hitters
had they not done the "heavy hitter" idea, i doubt they would have used that elimination, because production would have wanted something that favored johnny. probably the dice elimination again
I highly doubt they would of done the dice elimination round for a 3rd time production may love Bananas but they love to use physical elimination rounds towards the end of challenges even more I think Tyler wins the back to back elimination round but I think he would of lost the pole me over elimination only because if Bananas tires Tyler out he could push him out of bounds and win like Brandon did.
Coral has never cared for Tina but she wasn't close with Sophia either...they were cordial with each other but Coral was all about Arissa, especially after Veronica left.
Ummm...actually it should have been Coral, Ruthie & Arissa. Coral made the power move when she should have to take out Ruthie but her deal with Sophia should have been--Coral & Arissa were captains--Sophia & Ruthie were non-captains....the men would have thrown it--Sophia goes home. Doesn't change the end result though
From a competitive standpoint (which is what this thread is clearly about) Tina should of been in the final, her and Coral were the best female performers.
I never thought this was about "the best players reach the finals" but about "what should have happened"...such as Beth and CT not being DQ'd, Brad not resorting to shady tactics, Evelyn and other making better strategic decisions. Also, I disagree that Tina was the second best girl. Ruthie & Sophia were better than her. Probably Veronica as well. Rachel ****** up so she got what she deserved
Tina was better than both, I analyzed that challenge. You're clearly just going off what you think, and didn't analyze the missions. Also, this thread is clearly about those who didn't deserve to be in the final based off their performance, not politics.
It isn't clearly about that...hence people saying Dunbar on The Island
Coral took Sophia over Tina...tell you exactly who she felt performed better. I think you "analyzing a challenge" is you ignoring facts. LOL--"going off what you think"--you're ******* dumb as ****.
Tina outperformed Sophia in three missions (Dangle Drop, High Noon and Semi Cross), while Sophia outperformed Tina in none. Tina also outpeformed Ruthie in High Noon and Sa Wing.
Why are people saying jenn shouldnt have been on rivals 1 final? Check the rivals 1 stats: she and mandi did the best on two missions and pretty much performed at the upper tier of every other one. In terms of performance only paula/ev deserved it over them. Laurel/cara were a grab bag mess of dqs and camila/theresa got knocked off early and jonna/jasmine were the queens of avoiding last because cara/Laurel sucked worse than them
Ok, was Jenn a bully on Rivals 1? Absolutely. But they were never a horrible team. CM/Laurel, Jenn/Mandi & Jasmine/Jonna all won one mission that season. CM/Laurel were last twice though. Jenn/Mandi & Jas/Jonna were never last but Jenn/Mandi won a tough mission (the rafting one). Jas/Jonna won a long jump competition. Either team (Jenn/Mandi or Jas/Jonna) I would have been fine with in a final. Just because they didn't see an elimination shouldn't be a reason for not deserving to be in a final
There is a little controversy with that one. Evelyn hinted in her interview that her and Paula were the ones that actually won that mission. She said: "The rules stated you could not rest your kayak against the bamboo rods at the sides of the starting gate. Jenn and Mandi lodged theirs up against it for almost their entire run up at the starting zone, and it’s the only reason they won. That should have gotten them a game-losing penalty. Paula and I won that challenge. Watch the Final and tell me you honestly believe that Jenn and Mandi beat every girl’s team at a kayaking challenge. It’s comical."
Production likes to tamper with some things. For example, Mark/Robin apparently got last place on the fourth mission of Exes 1 but production made Jasmine/Tyrie get last place so Mark/Robin could stay longer even though Jasmine/Tyrie performed better in that mission. I remember Tyrie posting that here on Vevmo about how some challenges are rigged.
even if you take out that win, jenn/mandi still should have one win on sawed off since they technically had the fastest time but Laurel/cara screwed them over by dqing.
i don't think the kayak win is unbelievable. All the girls that day including jasmine/jonna had great times and were fairly close . It's not farfetched to believe that jenn/mandi could beat jasmine/jonna by a bit and steal first. . Maybe jasmine/jonna cheated on that challenge too since they also did well. Evelyn is probably just being a sourpuss
LOL--I know more than you will ever know about everything
Right....that's why I just proved you wrong on the Tina, Ruthie and Sophia argument and you didn't have a refute.
You didn't prove anything at all about it. At all. I argue for a living--when you present a case worth my time I'll destroy it. I'll wait patiently--forever.
Yeah Camila and Theresa definitely do better than Jenn/Mandi did in the final, granted Jenn was sick. They were both really good in each final we saw them on (not coutning Rivals 2 since it was cut short for Camila and Jemmye), tbh had they stuck around, I definitely see them being second best team after Ev/Paula as Laurel/CM had awful communication/many DQs, Jenn/Mandi were just solid, Jasmine/Jonna were mediocre overall, and the other two were not gonna be strong thanks to Katelynn and Robin.
LOL--I know more than you will ever know about everything
Right....that's why I just proved you wrong on the Tina, Ruthie and Sophia argument and you didn't have a refute.
You didn't prove anything at all about it. At all. I argue for a living--when you present a case worth my time I'll destroy it. I'll wait patiently--forever.
I proved that Tina outperformed Ruthie and Sophia amateur. And I bet you're one of the ignorant new school fans that thinks Johnny Bananas or Landon is the best competitor all time.
Coral took Sophia to the end because she she wasgood with puzzles. She admitted it. Coral knew that Tina outperformed everyone on the girl' squad besides herself.
Johnny R.-- it wans't his fault the draw was in his favour and no one voted him in- thats good game play. also he did a great job in the final considering, compared to Zach
Zach was the BEST athlete on the missions in Free Agents. He deserved the Final, despite the fact that he didn't perform well in the Final.
Johnny R.-- it wans't his fault the draw was in his favour and no one voted him in- thats good game play. also he did a great job in the final considering, compared to Zach
Zach was the BEST athlete on the missions in Free Agents. He deserved the Final, despite the fact that he didn't perform well in the Final.
100% Agree
He only participated in the draw twice (1st mission and 4th mission). The 2nd and 3rd Mission he was not in the bottom 4 or 2 teams so he was safe since he was not picked. After the 4th mission, he was either on the winning team (5th - Piggyback, 6th - Trivia, 8th - Strike A Pose and 9th - Dugout) or came 2nd (7th - Sausage Party & 10th Mission - Crossover). Zach was amazing in the missions on FA. He just choked in the final but that doesn't mean he didn't deserve to be there
THIS. and EDIT - I just noticed Oblivion beat me to it with the statistics.
Just finished rewatching Battle of the Sexes 2 and its more clear than ever that she outperformed Arissa AND Sophia on every mission. Sophia was great but Tina was more consistent. The whole puzzle excuse for voting off Tina was bullshit because Sophia was never mentioned as their puzzle person....Ibis was.
-Tina had 2 individual Wins - High Noon Paintball and Sa-Wing
-Sophia had one - Sa-Wing
-They both lost in the eating mission.
-Tina outlasted Sophia in Dangle Drop
-She also scored more points on the Pop Culture Bike challenge than her. Sophia didn't take a question.
Still upset about this all these years later and after re-watching it. lol
I'd say add Nehemiah with Frank and Jill on the G3 but yea everything is else I agree.
I would remove Bananas since I still think Tyler would've beaten him on Cutthroat but everything else is so true. Nehemiah was the only one other than Frank and Jill who tried and cared
I'm sorry--did you just claim Coral took Sophia because her and Sophia were friends?
I highly doubt they would of done the dice elimination round for a 3rd time production may love Bananas but they love to use physical elimination rounds towards the end of challenges even more I think Tyler wins the back to back elimination round but I think he would of lost the pole me over elimination only because if Bananas tires Tyler out he could push him out of bounds and win like Brandon did.
Coral has never cared for Tina but she wasn't close with Sophia either...they were cordial with each other but Coral was all about Arissa, especially after Veronica left.
Tina outperformed Sophia in three missions (Dangle Drop, High Noon and Semi Cross), while Sophia outperformed Tina in none. Tina also outpeformed Ruthie in High Noon and Sa Wing.
Kvm1977 is an amateur.
If by earning you mean quit, cried and got lucky production disliked Beth
LOL--I know more than you will ever know about everything
Why are people saying jenn shouldnt have been on rivals 1 final? Check the rivals 1 stats: she and mandi did the best on two missions and pretty much performed at the upper tier of every other one. In terms of performance only paula/ev deserved it over them. Laurel/cara were a grab bag mess of dqs and camila/theresa got knocked off early and jonna/jasmine were the queens of avoiding last because cara/Laurel sucked worse than them
even if you take out that win, jenn/mandi still should have one win on sawed off since they technically had the fastest time but Laurel/cara screwed them over by dqing.
i don't think the kayak win is unbelievable. All the girls that day including jasmine/jonna had great times and were fairly close . It's not farfetched to believe that jenn/mandi could beat jasmine/jonna by a bit and steal first. . Maybe jasmine/jonna cheated on that challenge too since they also did well. Evelyn is probably just being a sourpuss
Right....that's why I just proved you wrong on the Tina, Ruthie and Sophia argument and you didn't have a refute.
You didn't prove anything at all about it. At all. I argue for a living--when you present a case worth my time I'll destroy it. I'll wait patiently--forever.
Yeah Camila and Theresa definitely do better than Jenn/Mandi did in the final, granted Jenn was sick. They were both really good in each final we saw them on (not coutning Rivals 2 since it was cut short for Camila and Jemmye), tbh had they stuck around, I definitely see them being second best team after Ev/Paula as Laurel/CM had awful communication/many DQs, Jenn/Mandi were just solid, Jasmine/Jonna were mediocre overall, and the other two were not gonna be strong thanks
to Katelynn and Robin.
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I proved that Tina outperformed Ruthie and Sophia amateur. And I bet you're one of the ignorant new school fans that thinks Johnny Bananas or Landon is the best competitor all time.
I'd say add Nehemiah with Frank and Jill on the G3 but yea everything is else I agree.
Coral took Sophia to the end because she she wasgood with puzzles. She admitted it. Coral knew that Tina outperformed everyone on the girl' squad besides herself.
The only competitors who made it to the finals on Battle of the Sexes 2 and deserved to be there were Dan, Theo and Coral.
And you are a troll.
I'm the lord of challenge knowledge, kvm1977 would get owned (already has really).
Lol, honestly Oblivion is a master.... Definitely not a troll.
Oblivion, do you have a life?
Yes I do, but I'm also logical enough to analyze the challenge before I make statements about this competitor being better than another and etc.
Zach was the BEST athlete on the missions in Free Agents. He deserved the Final, despite the fact that he didn't perform well in the Final.
100% Agree
He only participated in the draw twice (1st mission and 4th mission). The 2nd and 3rd Mission he was not in the bottom 4 or 2 teams so he was safe since he was not picked. After the 4th mission, he was either on the winning team (5th - Piggyback, 6th - Trivia, 8th - Strike A Pose and 9th - Dugout) or came 2nd (7th - Sausage Party & 10th Mission - Crossover). Zach was amazing in the missions on FA. He just choked in the final but that doesn't mean he didn't deserve to be there
THIS. and EDIT - I just noticed Oblivion beat me to it with the statistics.
Just finished rewatching Battle of the Sexes 2 and its more clear than ever that she outperformed Arissa AND Sophia on every mission. Sophia was great but Tina was more consistent. The whole puzzle excuse for voting off Tina was bullshit because Sophia was never mentioned as their puzzle person....Ibis was.
-Tina had 2 individual Wins - High Noon Paintball and Sa-Wing
-Sophia had one - Sa-Wing
-They both lost in the eating mission.
-Tina outlasted Sophia in Dangle Drop
-She also scored more points on the Pop Culture Bike challenge than her. Sophia didn't take a question.
Still upset about this all these years later and after re-watching it. lol
I would remove Bananas since I still think Tyler would've beaten him on Cutthroat but everything else is so true. Nehemiah was the only one other than Frank and Jill who tried and cared
The final three females on Battle of the Sexes 2 should of been Coral, Tina and Ruthie (since Ruthie outperformed Sophia).
Should Nany and dustin bots2 shouldn't jay and jenna bote2 , Thersa bote2
If nia wasnt so stupid she should have been on that final
If it wasnt for Sarah a d if she wen put jay and jenna instead of bannanas and nany nia wouldn't be mad.
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