The Challenge: What Ifs

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I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  


Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.

No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.


That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.

Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.


No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.

Well he didn't and he couldn't so oh well tough shit for her..besides Evelyn is ****** tv anyways. Glad she lost. And if she was so elite the she should have won with Luke. Wes made it all the way with Casey..Why couldn't she do the same with Luke.


Because the exiles were completely different then and Wes carried most of the weight...
She won the hardest final ever with a broken rib, how is that not elite?
He couldn't which proves my point he's weak.
The only reason he made the cutthroat final was because all the other guys but Abram on the gray team sucked. Plus they won so much he didn't have to worry about it. If Luke was in at other team no way in **** he would have made the final

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  


Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.

No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.


That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.

Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.


No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.

Well he didn't and he couldn't so oh well tough shit for her..besides Evelyn is ****** tv anyways. Glad she lost. And if she was so elite the she should have won with Luke. Wes made it all the way with Casey..Why couldn't she do the same with Luke.


Because the exiles were completely different then and Wes carried most of the weight...
She won the hardest final ever with a broken rib, how is that not elite?
He couldn't which proves my point he's weak.
The only reason he made the cutthroat final was because all the other guys but Abram on the gray team sucked. Plus they won so much he didn't have to worry about it. If Luke was in at other team no way in **** he would have made the final

But if the Gray team won alot then clearly Abram wasn't the only guy that was good on the team

And keep in mind that yes she did win rivals with a broken rib but if she can do that then she should have won with Luke then. The exiles weren't that different.

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  


Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.

No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.


That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.

Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.


No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.

Well he didn't and he couldn't so oh well tough shit for her..besides Evelyn is ****** tv anyways. Glad she lost. And if she was so elite the she should have won with Luke. Wes made it all the way with Casey..Why couldn't she do the same with Luke.


Because the exiles were completely different then and Wes carried most of the weight...
She won the hardest final ever with a broken rib, how is that not elite?
He couldn't which proves my point he's weak.
The only reason he made the cutthroat final was because all the other guys but Abram on the gray team sucked. Plus they won so much he didn't have to worry about it. If Luke was in at other team no way in **** he would have made the final

But if the Gray team won alot then clearly Abram wasn't the only guy that was good on the team

And keep in mind that yes she did win rivals with a broken rib but if she can do that then she should have won with Luke then. The exiles weren't that different.


They completely were, the fresh meat one exiles only had to carry bags.
He was the only good guy, gray had the two best people Abram & Laurel. They won most of the missions for gray they literally won one by themselves.

The exiles weren't that different.
They completely were, the fresh meat one exiles only had to carry bags.

Not to mention in the first FM you had to carry weight based on your luggage so Wes & Casey had a HUGE advantage over the other teams.

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  

Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.
No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.
That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.
Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.
No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.
Well he didn't and he couldn't so oh well tough shit for her..besides Evelyn is ****** tv anyways. Glad she lost. And if she was so elite the she should have won with Luke. Wes made it all the way with Casey..Why couldn't she do the same with Luke.
Because the exiles were completely different then and Wes carried most of the weight... She won the hardest final ever with a broken rib, how is that not elite? He couldn't which proves my point he's weak. The only reason he made the cutthroat final was because all the other guys but Abram on the gray team sucked. Plus they won so much he didn't have to worry about it. If Luke was in at other team no way in **** he would have made the final
But if the Gray team won alot then clearly Abram wasn't the only guy that was good on the team And keep in mind that yes she did win rivals with a broken rib but if she can do that then she should have won with Luke then. The exiles weren't that different.
They completely were, the fresh meat one exiles only had to carry bags. He was the only good guy, gray had the two best people Abram & Laurel. They won most of the missions for gray they literally won one by themselves.

Luke proved himself in the final of cutthroat imo, which Abe obviously couldn't even do.  On a season like FM, where the eliminations are entirely based on endurance, Luke could do very well with his skill set given he wasn't in that elimination against the best challenger ever.

I stand by my earlier statement that I think he would be the next best partner for Jonna after Noor.

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  

Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.
No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.
That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.
Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.
No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.
Well he didn't and he couldn't so oh well tough shit for her..besides Evelyn is ****** tv anyways. Glad she lost. And if she was so elite the she should have won with Luke. Wes made it all the way with Casey..Why couldn't she do the same with Luke.
Because the exiles were completely different then and Wes carried most of the weight... She won the hardest final ever with a broken rib, how is that not elite? He couldn't which proves my point he's weak. The only reason he made the cutthroat final was because all the other guys but Abram on the gray team sucked. Plus they won so much he didn't have to worry about it. If Luke was in at other team no way in **** he would have made the final
But if the Gray team won alot then clearly Abram wasn't the only guy that was good on the team And keep in mind that yes she did win rivals with a broken rib but if she can do that then she should have won with Luke then. The exiles weren't that different.
They completely were, the fresh meat one exiles only had to carry bags. He was the only good guy, gray had the two best people Abram & Laurel. They won most of the missions for gray they literally won one by themselves.

Luke proved himself in the final of cutthroat imo, which Abe obviously couldn't even do.  On a season like FM, where the eliminations are entirely based on endurance, Luke could do very well with his skill set given he wasn't in that elimination against the best challenger ever.

I stand by my earlier statement that I think he would be the next best partner for Jonna after Noor.

I honestly don't know what people are watching to warrant Luke being a shitty competitor. Honestly, Ev & Luke would have beaten any of those teams in any Exile. I don't get how Luke was the weakest guy left in the game either at that point. It was clearly Ryan and sure, if we are talking about physicality, then yeah Luke would be one of the weakest, but in terms of overall competitor, I think Luke was a better competitor than Ryan, Pete, and in some cases Noor as well. Ev & Luke would have beat Jillian & Pete, Ryan & Theresa, and/or Jenn & Noor in any of those exiles.

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  

Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.
No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.
That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.
Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.
No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.
Well he didn't and he couldn't so oh well tough shit for her..besides Evelyn is ****** tv anyways. Glad she lost. And if she was so elite the she should have won with Luke. Wes made it all the way with Casey..Why couldn't she do the same with Luke.
Because the exiles were completely different then and Wes carried most of the weight... She won the hardest final ever with a broken rib, how is that not elite? He couldn't which proves my point he's weak. The only reason he made the cutthroat final was because all the other guys but Abram on the gray team sucked. Plus they won so much he didn't have to worry about it. If Luke was in at other team no way in **** he would have made the final
But if the Gray team won alot then clearly Abram wasn't the only guy that was good on the team And keep in mind that yes she did win rivals with a broken rib but if she can do that then she should have won with Luke then. The exiles weren't that different.
They completely were, the fresh meat one exiles only had to carry bags. He was the only good guy, gray had the two best people Abram & Laurel. They won most of the missions for gray they literally won one by themselves.

Luke proved himself in the final of cutthroat imo, which Abe obviously couldn't even do.  On a season like FM, where the eliminations are entirely based on endurance, Luke could do very well with his skill set given he wasn't in that elimination against the best challenger ever.

I stand by my earlier statement that I think he would be the next best partner for Jonna after Noor.

I honestly don't know what people are watching to warrant Luke being a shitty competitor. Honestly, Ev & Luke would have beaten any of those teams in any Exile. I don't get how Luke was the weakest guy left in the game either at that point. It was clearly Ryan and sure, if we are talking about physicality, then yeah Luke would be one of the weakest, but in terms of overall competitor, I think Luke was a better competitor than Ryan, Pete, and in some cases Noor as well. Ev & Luke would have beat Jillian & Pete, Ryan & Theresa, and/or Jenn & Noor in any of those exiles.


I'll give you Ryan but not Pete or Noor especially not Noor.
Luke proved on cutthroat he was nothing special

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  

Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.
No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.
That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.
Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.
No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.
Well he didn't and he couldn't so oh well tough shit for her..besides Evelyn is ****** tv anyways. Glad she lost. And if she was so elite the she should have won with Luke. Wes made it all the way with Casey..Why couldn't she do the same with Luke.
Because the exiles were completely different then and Wes carried most of the weight... She won the hardest final ever with a broken rib, how is that not elite? He couldn't which proves my point he's weak. The only reason he made the cutthroat final was because all the other guys but Abram on the gray team sucked. Plus they won so much he didn't have to worry about it. If Luke was in at other team no way in **** he would have made the final
But if the Gray team won alot then clearly Abram wasn't the only guy that was good on the team And keep in mind that yes she did win rivals with a broken rib but if she can do that then she should have won with Luke then. The exiles weren't that different.
They completely were, the fresh meat one exiles only had to carry bags. He was the only good guy, gray had the two best people Abram & Laurel. They won most of the missions for gray they literally won one by themselves.

Luke proved himself in the final of cutthroat imo, which Abe obviously couldn't even do.  On a season like FM, where the eliminations are entirely based on endurance, Luke could do very well with his skill set given he wasn't in that elimination against the best challenger ever.

I stand by my earlier statement that I think he would be the next best partner for Jonna after Noor.

I honestly don't know what people are watching to warrant Luke being a shitty competitor. Honestly, Ev & Luke would have beaten any of those teams in any Exile. I don't get how Luke was the weakest guy left in the game either at that point. It was clearly Ryan and sure, if we are talking about physicality, then yeah Luke would be one of the weakest, but in terms of overall competitor, I think Luke was a better competitor than Ryan, Pete, and in some cases Noor as well. Ev & Luke would have beat Jillian & Pete, Ryan & Theresa, and/or Jenn & Noor in any of those exiles.


I'll give you Ryan but not Pete or Noor especially not Noor.
Luke proved on cutthroat he was nothing special

To think that Luke was almost 2-0 in challenge smh

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  

Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.
No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.
That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.
Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.
No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.
Well he didn't and he couldn't so oh well tough shit for her..besides Evelyn is ****** tv anyways. Glad she lost. And if she was so elite the she should have won with Luke. Wes made it all the way with Casey..Why couldn't she do the same with Luke.
Because the exiles were completely different then and Wes carried most of the weight... She won the hardest final ever with a broken rib, how is that not elite? He couldn't which proves my point he's weak. The only reason he made the cutthroat final was because all the other guys but Abram on the gray team sucked. Plus they won so much he didn't have to worry about it. If Luke was in at other team no way in **** he would have made the final
But if the Gray team won alot then clearly Abram wasn't the only guy that was good on the team And keep in mind that yes she did win rivals with a broken rib but if she can do that then she should have won with Luke then. The exiles weren't that different.
They completely were, the fresh meat one exiles only had to carry bags. He was the only good guy, gray had the two best people Abram & Laurel. They won most of the missions for gray they literally won one by themselves.

Luke proved himself in the final of cutthroat imo, which Abe obviously couldn't even do.  On a season like FM, where the eliminations are entirely based on endurance, Luke could do very well with his skill set given he wasn't in that elimination against the best challenger ever.

I stand by my earlier statement that I think he would be the next best partner for Jonna after Noor.

I honestly don't know what people are watching to warrant Luke being a shitty competitor. Honestly, Ev & Luke would have beaten any of those teams in any Exile. I don't get how Luke was the weakest guy left in the game either at that point. It was clearly Ryan and sure, if we are talking about physicality, then yeah Luke would be one of the weakest, but in terms of overall competitor, I think Luke was a better competitor than Ryan, Pete, and in some cases Noor as well. Ev & Luke would have beat Jillian & Pete, Ryan & Theresa, and/or Jenn & Noor in any of those exiles.

I'll give you Ryan but not Pete or Noor especially not Noor. Luke proved on cutthroat he was nothing special

I guess I am missing what Luke proved in Cutthroat to be "nothing special". He DQ'd on 1 challenge, eliminated someone, made it to the final challenge, and was only 1 of 4 guys to finish it. 

I don't really see what Noor did that makes everyone think he is another Landon. Sure he did great on the combine, he was really quick, and performed good as well on the challenges, so I don't know what Noor did or what Noor proved that Luke did not.  I stand by my last statement, Ev & Luke would have defeated Jenn & Noor and/or Jillian & Pete in either Exile.

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  

Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.
No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.
That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.
Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.
No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.
Well he didn't and he couldn't so oh well tough shit for her..besides Evelyn is ****** tv anyways. Glad she lost. And if she was so elite the she should have won with Luke. Wes made it all the way with Casey..Why couldn't she do the same with Luke.
Because the exiles were completely different then and Wes carried most of the weight... She won the hardest final ever with a broken rib, how is that not elite? He couldn't which proves my point he's weak. The only reason he made the cutthroat final was because all the other guys but Abram on the gray team sucked. Plus they won so much he didn't have to worry about it. If Luke was in at other team no way in **** he would have made the final
But if the Gray team won alot then clearly Abram wasn't the only guy that was good on the team And keep in mind that yes she did win rivals with a broken rib but if she can do that then she should have won with Luke then. The exiles weren't that different.
They completely were, the fresh meat one exiles only had to carry bags. He was the only good guy, gray had the two best people Abram & Laurel. They won most of the missions for gray they literally won one by themselves.

Luke proved himself in the final of cutthroat imo, which Abe obviously couldn't even do.  On a season like FM, where the eliminations are entirely based on endurance, Luke could do very well with his skill set given he wasn't in that elimination against the best challenger ever.

I stand by my earlier statement that I think he would be the next best partner for Jonna after Noor.

I honestly don't know what people are watching to warrant Luke being a shitty competitor. Honestly, Ev & Luke would have beaten any of those teams in any Exile. I don't get how Luke was the weakest guy left in the game either at that point. It was clearly Ryan and sure, if we are talking about physicality, then yeah Luke would be one of the weakest, but in terms of overall competitor, I think Luke was a better competitor than Ryan, Pete, and in some cases Noor as well. Ev & Luke would have beat Jillian & Pete, Ryan & Theresa, and/or Jenn & Noor in any of those exiles.

I'll give you Ryan but not Pete or Noor especially not Noor. Luke proved on cutthroat he was nothing special

I guess I am missing what Luke proved in Cutthroat to be "nothing special". He DQ'd on 1 challenge, eliminated someone, made it to the final challenge, and was only 1 of 4 guys to finish it. 

I don't really see what Noor did that makes everyone think he is another Landon. Sure he did great on the combine, he was really quick, and performed good as well on the challenges, so I don't know what Noor did or what Noor proved that Luke did not.  I stand by my last statement, Ev & Luke would have defeated Jenn & Noor and/or Jillian & Pete in either Exile.


Beating someone in swat isn't impressive, he did horrible in gimme a hand, was the first one out in riot act and did nothing really notable in any mission. He only made the final because gray won so much. On any other team no way in **** he makes it.
They would only beat them because of Evelyn. That's my point.

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  

Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.
No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.
That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.
Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.
No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.
Well he didn't and he couldn't so oh well tough shit for her..besides Evelyn is ****** tv anyways. Glad she lost. And if she was so elite the she should have won with Luke. Wes made it all the way with Casey..Why couldn't she do the same with Luke.
Because the exiles were completely different then and Wes carried most of the weight... She won the hardest final ever with a broken rib, how is that not elite? He couldn't which proves my point he's weak. The only reason he made the cutthroat final was because all the other guys but Abram on the gray team sucked. Plus they won so much he didn't have to worry about it. If Luke was in at other team no way in **** he would have made the final
But if the Gray team won alot then clearly Abram wasn't the only guy that was good on the team And keep in mind that yes she did win rivals with a broken rib but if she can do that then she should have won with Luke then. The exiles weren't that different.
They completely were, the fresh meat one exiles only had to carry bags. He was the only good guy, gray had the two best people Abram & Laurel. They won most of the missions for gray they literally won one by themselves.

Luke proved himself in the final of cutthroat imo, which Abe obviously couldn't even do.  On a season like FM, where the eliminations are entirely based on endurance, Luke could do very well with his skill set given he wasn't in that elimination against the best challenger ever.

I stand by my earlier statement that I think he would be the next best partner for Jonna after Noor.

I honestly don't know what people are watching to warrant Luke being a shitty competitor. Honestly, Ev & Luke would have beaten any of those teams in any Exile. I don't get how Luke was the weakest guy left in the game either at that point. It was clearly Ryan and sure, if we are talking about physicality, then yeah Luke would be one of the weakest, but in terms of overall competitor, I think Luke was a better competitor than Ryan, Pete, and in some cases Noor as well. Ev & Luke would have beat Jillian & Pete, Ryan & Theresa, and/or Jenn & Noor in any of those exiles.

I'll give you Ryan but not Pete or Noor especially not Noor. Luke proved on cutthroat he was nothing special

I guess I am missing what Luke proved in Cutthroat to be "nothing special". He DQ'd on 1 challenge, eliminated someone, made it to the final challenge, and was only 1 of 4 guys to finish it. 

I don't really see what Noor did that makes everyone think he is another Landon. Sure he did great on the combine, he was really quick, and performed good as well on the challenges, so I don't know what Noor did or what Noor proved that Luke did not.  I stand by my last statement, Ev & Luke would have defeated Jenn & Noor and/or Jillian & Pete in either Exile.

Beating someone in swat isn't impressive, he did horrible in gimme a hand, was the first one out in riot act and did nothing really notable in any mission. He only made the final because gray won so much. On any other team no way in **** he makes it. They would only beat them because of Evelyn. That's my point.

It takes two to run an exile.  And Pete and Jill for sure would have lost to Luke and Ev- did you see the time discrepancy between the two in Lost and Found?  Luke and Ev did theirs in almost 30 minutes faster than Jillian and Pete.  I think Luke would have done very well with Jonna and tbh I don't think people have any reason to give someone shit who did reasonably well on both of his challenges.  

But he didn't do well on cutthroat I just listed why.....
I still think Noor is much better than Luke. Pete and Brandon you might be able to make arguments for too tbh.

Being good on a Fresh Meat season is completely different from being good in any another type of season.

Endurance vs. Strength

What if Ashlee and Ryan replaced McKenzie and Preston.

What if Ashlee and Ryan replaced McKenzie and Preston.

they would've killed Sarah and Chet in Balls Out.

What if Ashlee and Ryan replaced McKenzie and Preston.

they would've killed Sarah and Chet in Balls Out.

Maybe, but I honestly think Ryan would be less athletic than Preston.  Ashlee would likely be a good competitor though.

What if Camila and Brandon were on the blue team and were traded with Eric and Katie

What if Camila and Brandon were on the blue team and were traded with Eric and Katie

Camila makes the final as long as she avoids Laurel. I think Emily and Theresa would be sent in before her so she'd make it farther. Brandon would have an easier ride but would probably get eliminated before the final. Eric and Katie would get sent in every time.

What if Ashlee and Ryan replaced McKenzie and Preston.

they would've killed Sarah and Chet in Balls Out.


Ashlee might have but Ryan hurts himself climbing a gate isn't killing anyone.

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  

Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.
No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.
That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.
Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.
No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.
Well he didn't and he couldn't so oh well tough shit for her..besides Evelyn is ****** tv anyways. Glad she lost. And if she was so elite the she should have won with Luke. Wes made it all the way with Casey..Why couldn't she do the same with Luke.
Because the exiles were completely different then and Wes carried most of the weight... She won the hardest final ever with a broken rib, how is that not elite? He couldn't which proves my point he's weak. The only reason he made the cutthroat final was because all the other guys but Abram on the gray team sucked. Plus they won so much he didn't have to worry about it. If Luke was in at other team no way in **** he would have made the final
But if the Gray team won alot then clearly Abram wasn't the only guy that was good on the team And keep in mind that yes she did win rivals with a broken rib but if she can do that then she should have won with Luke then. The exiles weren't that different.
They completely were, the fresh meat one exiles only had to carry bags. He was the only good guy, gray had the two best people Abram & Laurel. They won most of the missions for gray they literally won one by themselves.

Luke proved himself in the final of cutthroat imo, which Abe obviously couldn't even do.  On a season like FM, where the eliminations are entirely based on endurance, Luke could do very well with his skill set given he wasn't in that elimination against the best challenger ever.

I stand by my earlier statement that I think he would be the next best partner for Jonna after Noor.

I honestly don't know what people are watching to warrant Luke being a shitty competitor. Honestly, Ev & Luke would have beaten any of those teams in any Exile. I don't get how Luke was the weakest guy left in the game either at that point. It was clearly Ryan and sure, if we are talking about physicality, then yeah Luke would be one of the weakest, but in terms of overall competitor, I think Luke was a better competitor than Ryan, Pete, and in some cases Noor as well. Ev & Luke would have beat Jillian & Pete, Ryan & Theresa, and/or Jenn & Noor in any of those exiles.

I'll give you Ryan but not Pete or Noor especially not Noor. Luke proved on cutthroat he was nothing special

I guess I am missing what Luke proved in Cutthroat to be "nothing special". He DQ'd on 1 challenge, eliminated someone, made it to the final challenge, and was only 1 of 4 guys to finish it. 

I don't really see what Noor did that makes everyone think he is another Landon. Sure he did great on the combine, he was really quick, and performed good as well on the challenges, so I don't know what Noor did or what Noor proved that Luke did not.  I stand by my last statement, Ev & Luke would have defeated Jenn & Noor and/or Jillian & Pete in either Exile.

Beating someone in swat isn't impressive, he did horrible in gimme a hand, was the first one out in riot act and did nothing really notable in any mission. He only made the final because gray won so much. On any other team no way in **** he makes it. They would only beat them because of Evelyn. That's my point.

Abram was actually the first person eliminated on Riot Act. 

What if Nia actually won against Cara Maria in FA?******* will be afraid of her even more and I see her going pretty far. 

What if Leroy knew how to swim

What if Leroy knew how to swim

 

He may have one battle of the exes 2. But i dont think that why he lost. i feel when they stopped at the top of the hill they lost alot of time .

what if exes 1 had Evan&Rachel and Kenny&Johanna


what if exes 1 had Evan&Rachel and Kenny&Johanna



Evan and Rachel hooked up? I think Evan/Rachel would have probably made it to Top 5. Kenny/Johanna would have been eliminated early since Kenny and Johanna are not the best in missions

What if Leroy knew how to swim

 

He may have one battle of the exes 2. But i dont think that why he lost. i feel when they stopped at the top of the hill they lost alot of time .

look at how far away they were from sarah/Jordan when they got on the kayak. The swim is definitely what destroyed them 

what if exes 1 had Evan&Rachel and Kenny&Johanna

Evan and Rachel hooked up? I think Evan/Rachel would have probably made it to Top 5. Kenny/Johanna would have been eliminated early since Kenny and Johanna are not the best in missions

They messed around on Duel 2.

what if exes 1 had Evan&Rachel and Kenny&Johanna

Evan and Rachel hooked up? I think Evan/Rachel would have probably made it to Top 5. Kenny/Johanna would have been eliminated early since Kenny and Johanna are not the best in missions

They messed around on Duel 2.

Lost a little respect for Rachel...

 

what if exes 1 had Evan&Rachel and Kenny&Johanna

That season would've been worse than what it was.

And I too lost a little respect for Rachel.

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