The Challenge: What Ifs

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What if Leroy still had Adam R. as a partner on Rivals 1? Do you think they would have still made it to the finals?

What if Brad and Darrell didn't get kicked off of the Ruins? Do you think the results would still have been the same? I know that Darrell had a free pass to the finals but Brad had to go into the final Ruins most likely against someone.

 

I think Darrell still gets sent in. I never believed that they were just going to let him walk to the final challenge. That's why they basically let that situation happen(although Darrell could have just walked away from Brad so he shares blame too).

What if Leroy still had Adam R. as a partner on Rivals 1? Do you think they would have still made it to the finals?

What if Brad and Darrell didn't get kicked off of the Ruins? Do you think the results would still have been the same? I know that Darrell had a free pass to the finals but Brad had to go into the final Ruins most likely against someone.

 

No, Adam would have ****** to many people off and they would have been voted in everytime. 

What if Leroy still had Adam R. as a partner on Rivals 1? Do you think they would have still made it to the finals?

What if Brad and Darrell didn't get kicked off of the Ruins? Do you think the results would still have been the same? I know that Darrell had a free pass to the finals but Brad had to go into the final Ruins most likely against someone.

 

No, Adam would have ****** to many people off and they would have been voted in everytime. 


I agree plus the only reason they didn't go in was everyone thought Mike would be a puzzle king for some reason lol. Even he was confused by that.

What if Leroy still had Adam R. as a partner on Rivals 1? Do you think they would have still made it to the finals?

What if Brad and Darrell didn't get kicked off of the Ruins? Do you think the results would still have been the same? I know that Darrell had a free pass to the finals but Brad had to go into the final Ruins most likely against someone.

 

No, Adam would have ****** to many people off and they would have been voted in everytime. 

I agree plus the only reason they didn't go in was everyone thought Mike would be a puzzle king for some reason lol. Even he was confused by that.

Yea I was very confused that they thought Mike was a puzzle master lol. I still think they would have kept Adam and Leroy for a while because in their eyes, they would be a layup.

What if Leroy still had Adam R. as a partner on Rivals 1? Do you think they would have still made it to the finals?

What if Brad and Darrell didn't get kicked off of the Ruins? Do you think the results would still have been the same? I know that Darrell had a free pass to the finals but Brad had to go into the final Ruins most likely against someone.

 

i think Leroy and Adam would have went under the radar and went to the finals. The jekw alliance wanted ct out. If hey were sent into the male eliminations they possibly would have won. Leroy would have beaten Wes in throwing up challenge. I can see Adam and Leroy winning rail slide was Evan and nehemiah. Leroy would still have breasted the bombs away challenge making them safe in the final challenge. 

 

Darrell would have gotten his fifth win and for brad it depends on who he went against in the final elimination.

That situation was everybody's fault. I was more ****** at JEK and a little at Darrell even though I love Darrell. IMO, they had a clearer mind than Brad and could have defuse the situation quicker than it escalated. Brad still takes fault for getting that drunk which is not an excuse but if JEK and Darrell had a clearer mind, they should not have had that escalate. With that said, I still think it would have been Bananas vs. Dunbar in Rag Doll and Bananas would have won. Then Muay Thai would have been Brad and I think they would have sent in maybe Darrell or Bananas again.

A few more:

1) What if Coral and Ev did face off in Ball Brawl on the Gauntlet 3? Who would have won?

2) What if Coral and Evan stayed on Fresh Meat 1?

3) Do you think if CT stayed in Duel 2, he would have won? I definitely think CT would have won his first challenge in Inferno 3 if he stayed but what about Duel 2?

A few more:

1) What if Coral and Ev did face off in Ball Brawl on the Gauntlet 3? Who would have won?

2) What if Coral and Evan stayed on Fresh Meat 1?

3) Do you think if CT stayed in Duel 2, he would have won? I definitely think CT would have won his first challenge in Inferno 3 if he stayed but what about Duel 2?

 

Ev would of would based on speed.

Coral and Evan maybe would of took Kenny and Tinas spot in the finals, sorry I cant see Wes & Casey losing any Exiles because of their advantage.

I think CT would of won The Duel 2, both of those challenges he got kicked off and I feel like both of those challenges would of been the easiest for him to win.

A few more:

1) What if Coral and Ev did face off in Ball Brawl on the Gauntlet 3? Who would have won?

2) What if Coral and Evan stayed on Fresh Meat 1?

3) Do you think if CT stayed in Duel 2, he would have won? I definitely think CT would have won his first challenge in Inferno 3 if he stayed but what about Duel 2?

 

Ev would of would based on speed.

Coral and Evan maybe would of took Kenny and Tinas spot in the finals, sorry I cant see Wes & Casey losing any Exiles because of their advantage.

I think CT would of won The Duel 2, both of those challenges he got kicked off and I feel like both of those challenges would of been the easiest for him to win.

I agree with the first 2. I love Coral but Ev would have definitely won and that was the main reason why Coral left. I love Coral but I was mad that she punked out on Gauntlet 3. Also, Coral reminds me of an opposite Kenny. Kenny sucks at the missions but kills the finals while Coral does well in the missions but sucks at the finals. Coral and Evan would have placed 2nd.

Now, CT. Would CT have been in the final 3? Absolutely. Would CT have won? That's a little shaky. That would have been an epic final if it was CT/Landon/Evan and for the girls Rachel/Brittani/Diem

 

What if Leroy still had Adam R. as a partner on Rivals 1? Do you think they would have still made it to the finals?

What if Brad and Darrell didn't get kicked off of the Ruins? Do you think the results would still have been the same? I know that Darrell had a free pass to the finals but Brad had to go into the final Ruins most likely against someone.

 

No, Adam would have ****** to many people off and they would have been voted in everytime. 

I disagree. The only way Leroy & Adam would have seen a Jungle is if they got last. Regardless of how much Adam would have ****** people off, that would not have made the mob take their sights off CT.

A few more:

1) What if Coral and Ev did face off in Ball Brawl on the Gauntlet 3? Who would have won?

2) What if Coral and Evan stayed on Fresh Meat 1?

3) Do you think if CT stayed in Duel 2, he would have won? I definitely think CT would have won his first challenge in Inferno 3 if he stayed but what about Duel 2?

 

Ev would of would based on speed.

Coral and Evan maybe would of took Kenny and Tinas spot in the finals, sorry I cant see Wes & Casey losing any Exiles because of their advantage.

I think CT would of won The Duel 2, both of those challenges he got kicked off and I feel like both of those challenges would of been the easiest for him to win.

I agree with the first 2. I love Coral but Ev would have definitely won and that was the main reason why Coral left. I love Coral but I was mad that she punked out on Gauntlet 3. Also, Coral reminds me of an opposite Kenny. Kenny sucks at the missions but kills the finals while Coral does well in the missions but sucks at the finals. Coral and Evan would have placed 2nd.

Now, CT. Would CT have been in the final 3? Absolutely. Would CT have won? That's a little shaky. That would have been an epic final if it was CT/Landon/Evan and for the girls Rachel/Brittani/Diem

 

CT would have for sure made the final but I don't think he would have won. If I remember correctly he wasn't in as great of shape as he normally is on Duel 2. He wasn't as lean as he normally is so I think Evan or Landon could have beaten him in a final.

What if Leroy still had Adam R. as a partner on Rivals 1? Do you think they would have still made it to the finals?

What if Brad and Darrell didn't get kicked off of the Ruins? Do you think the results would still have been the same? I know that Darrell had a free pass to the finals but Brad had to go into the final Ruins most likely against someone.

 

No, Adam would have ****** to many people off and they would have been voted in everytime. 

I agree plus the only reason they didn't go in was everyone thought Mike would be a puzzle king for some reason lol. Even he was confused by that.

I don't think that is why they kept Leroy & Michael around at all. I'm sure that is what editting made it seem like, but I'm sure they slid to the end because there were only 4 elimination rounds, two of which Kenny & Wes needed easier opponents to beat, one which Evan & Nehemiah were meant to take out CT, and the 4th Leroy & Michael won. So the only eliminations that Leroy & Michael could have gone into were the first two, which Leroy & Michael were friends with the mob and likeable by the entire house where Davis & Tyrie and Brandon & Ty were not.

JEK all liked Mike/Leroy a lot plus there sights were set on CT. I think Adam/Leroy would have possibly been voted in just because they would have been looked at as a strong team.

-What if Lori never dropped out of Battle of the Seasons as The Miz' partner and Coral wasn't on the show?  Would Coral be on Battle of the Sexes? Would Coral and Lori still make it to the finals on their seasons?  (I think so).

 

-What if Hawaii, San Fran, Road Rules 1 and the Islands had teams on Battle of the Seasons?  Would the outcome change?

 

-What happened if the Gauntlet 1 never moved locations from New Hampshire to Telluride, Colorado and Vince, Malik, Jisela and several others didn't drop out?

 

-What would have happened if Piggy never left on the Inferno and we never saw Christina?  Would Piggy make it far?  Who would have faced Mallory in the Inferno?

-What if Lori never dropped out of Battle of the Seasons as The Miz' partner and Coral wasn't on the show?  Would Coral be on Battle of the Sexes? Would Coral and Lori still make it to the finals on their seasons?  (I think so).

 

-What if Hawaii, San Fran, Road Rules 1 and the Islands had teams on Battle of the Seasons?  Would the outcome change?

 

-What happened if the Gauntlet 1 never moved locations from New Hampshire to Telluride, Colorado and Vince, Malik, Jisela and several others didn't drop out?

 

-What would have happened if Piggy never left on the Inferno and we never saw Christina?  Would Piggy make it far?  Who would have faced Mallory in the Inferno?

1) I think Lori was a good competitor on BOTSexes1 so I actually would have seen her still make it to the top 3 RW teams and win. Coral was such a character that she would have been casted for other challenges.

 

2) I think Hawaii would have been a force. Especially if Ruthie and Colin was a team. Hawaii would have made top 3 RW teams.

3) The only person I would have liked to have seen on the Challenge was Malik. I didn't care for the other 2.

4) I love Piggy. I really love Piggy. I think she would have been fine. ****, we could have had Piggy and Katie on the same season and team???

So I've been rewatching FM2, and I really wonder what things would have been like had Jonna not lost her passport.  First, the alumni girls/FM guys teams could have been all mixed up depending on her number in the draw.  I also wonder who she would have aligned with, seeing as she and CJ were friends from Cancun but she also didn't really seem to get along with Wes on Rivals.  

Then I wonder how far she would have gotten.  This might be too optimistic, but I honestly wouldn't be that surprised if she and her partner had made it close to the end.  She's proven on BOTS and BOTE2 that she is a solid long distance runner plus she's good at puzzles, both of which are necessary to winning exiles.  And a lot of rookies managed to slip through the first few rounds because of the Wes-Kenny thing.

Anyone else have some thoughts?  

 

If she has Noor or Pete as a partner I see her making it to finals or semi finals no doubt. They would be untouchable in exiles and see them doing well in daily missions. I could see her working well with brandon also. 

 

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  


Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.

I was so mad when Jonna lost her passport. I think she would have done really well!

I was so mad when Jonna lost her passport. I think she would have done really well!


I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.


Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  



I think Jonna would have done well in Lost and Found but would have had trouble with Weight On Me.

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  


Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.

No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.

 

If she has Noor or Pete as a partner I see her making it to finals or semi finals no doubt. They would be untouchable in exiles and see them doing well in daily missions. I could see her working well with brandon also. 

What are the semi finals exactly?

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  


Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.

No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.


That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  


Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.

No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.


That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.

Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  


Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.

No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.


That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.

Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.


No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  


Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.

No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.


That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.

Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.


No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.

Well he didn't and he couldn't so oh well tough shit for her..besides Evelyn is ****** tv anyways. Glad she lost. And if she was so elite the she should have won with Luke. Wes made it all the way with Casey..Why couldn't she do the same with Luke.

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  

Evelyn had every right to be mad at him, Luke sucks. He was the weakest guy left in the game.
No she didn't. It's her **** fault they lost.
That doesn't change anything he's the weakest guy there she was carrying a lot more weight than him.
Okay? What was he supposed to do Carry it all himself? He's not Landon.
No the benefit to having a elite partner like Evelyn is she can carry a lot more than the other girls but he should still make it even and not carry less than her.
Well he didn't and he couldn't so oh well tough shit for her..besides Evelyn is ****** tv anyways. Glad she lost. And if she was so elite the she should have won with Luke. Wes made it all the way with Casey..Why couldn't she do the same with Luke.

Good guy can win with shitty girls, but good girl can't win with shitty guy. I'm sorry to say this, but in co-ed pairs always won pair who has better guy, not girl.

I think Luke would have been a good partner too.  Evelyn gave him a lot of shit when they were eliminated but a) they lost to the team that ended up winning the season and b) he proved he's solid, at least in terms of endurance, on Cutthroat.  I wonder if Pete and Jonna would have been a bad partnership though considering Jillian said he yelled incessantly and was really unsupportive and Jonna doesn't do well when she's being verbally attacked.

Agree on Brandon too.  I think they would have made a good pair.  

I think Jonna would have done well in Lost and Found but would have had trouble with Weight On Me.

I agree 100%.  Weight For Me seemed to require more strength and Lost and Found more endurance/running ability

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