[QUOTE=JayTee;411123]I'm not denying anything I agreed with you that you are mathematically correct but I would still pick going 1st over any other spot based on what we've seen so far. Why you mad? And the only reason I brought Frank up is because you wanted to talk a both production altering things.[/QUOTE]
I don't tolerate stupidity and you either don't comprehend the simple math involved despite your claims or you don't understand what logic is. There is no logic at all in what you're stating. None--if you think it would be "lucky" for you that's different but you DID try to dispute the math and threw out the term logic without a leg to stand on
[QUOTE=JayTee;411124]Hey e-statter, tell me would you go draw a card first or any other spot? I mean mathematically speaking everyone has an equal chance, but would you pass up going first based on what we've seen so far?[/QUOTE]
Yes--the order you pick has no impact on anything. There is no difference and the fact you're still disputing this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;411127]I don't tolerate stupidity and you either don't comprehend the simple math involved despite your claims or you don't understand what logic is. There is no logic at all in what you're stating. None--if you think it would be "lucky" for you that's different but you DID try to dispute the math and threw out the term logic without a leg to stand on[/QUOTE]
The fact that nobody has drawn the kill card after going 1st is one leg to stand on, granted a weak leg, but I'd rather have a weak leg than no leg. Luck is another leg to stand on, granted it's also a weak leg. The thing is, you're getting mad for no reason, if this dispute is the dumbest thing you've ever seen in your life, then you probably should go out more.
[QUOTE=JayTee;411129]The fact that nobody has drawn the kill card after going 1st is one leg to stand on, granted a weak leg, but I'd rather have a weak leg than no leg. Luck is another leg to stand on, granted it's also a weak leg. The thing is, you're getting mad for no reason, if this dispute is the dumbest thing you've ever seen in your life, then you probably should go out more.[/QUOTE]
I don't typically associate with stupid people...after reading this I'm glad for that. The fact you're still defending this...there are no words
[QUOTE=kvm1977;411132]I don't typically associate with stupid people...after reading this I'm glad for that. The fact you're still defending this...there are no words[/QUOTE]
I'm not trying to attack you, but you keep on calling me stupid just because I said that I think it's better to go 1st than be in any other position when it comes the draw. Take a few deep breaths and relax.
[QUOTE=JayTee;411135]I'm not trying to attack you, but you keep on calling me stupid just because I said that I think it's better to go 1st than be in any other position when it comes the draw. Take a few deep breaths and relax.[/QUOTE]
1. You did argue the math
2. Claimed you were using logic
3. Clearly still don't comprehend why either comment is stupid
[QUOTE=EstimatedRoa;411126]Ok, so for the guys, there's been a 36% (6/7*3/4*3/4*3/4) chance so far that no one from the guys side would select the kill card on the first draw. That's not crazy odds to defy. You can do what you want, but I wouldn't want to make decisions based off a sample size of 4.[/QUOTE]
But it's still a higher percentage than everyone else which is why I would prefer to go 1st than have it any other way. Thank you for clarifying that there is a bigger percentage of not getting the killcard when going 1st based on what we've seen so far.
[QUOTE=JayTee;411124]Hey e-statter, tell me would you go draw a card first or any other spot? I mean mathematically speaking everyone has an equal chance, but would you pass up going first based on what we've seen so far?[/QUOTE]
Your a cornball for the e stat comment. I don't care if I'm first of last. First off because THE CHANCES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME. second I wouldn't mind going in, your supposed to prove yourself anyways. Maybe your a scrawny little thing, though, and wouldn't want to go into an elimination with a man.
[QUOTE=JayTee;411140]But it's still a higher percentage than everyone else which is why I would prefer to go 1st than have it any other way. Thank you for clarifying that there is a bigger percentage of not getting the killcard when going 1st based on what we've seen so far.[/QUOTE]
Please take a Prob & Stats class....for the good of your future children
[QUOTE=kvm1977;411139]1. You did argue the math
2. Claimed you were using logic
3. Clearly still don't comprehend why either comment is stupid[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EstimatedRoa;411126]Ok, so for the guys, there's been a 36% (6/7*3/4*3/4*3/4) chance so far that no one from the guys side would select the kill card on the first draw. That's not crazy odds to defy. You can do what you want, but I wouldn't want to make decisions based off a sample size of 4.[/QUOTE]
Based on what we've seen on FA, you have a slightly higher chance of not drawing the killcard if you go first.
[QUOTE=JayTee;411145]Based on what we've seen on FA, you have a slightly higher chance of not drawing the killcard if you go first.[/QUOTE]
Again, take a prob & stats class so you learn what "sample size" means
[QUOTE=kvm1977;411144]Please take a Prob & Stats class....for the good of your future children[/QUOTE]
Just keep ignoring when I say "based on what we've seen on the challenge so far...".
Learn to pay attention and not cry about things on the internet, for the sake of your career.
I'm just strictly talking about what we've seen on the challenge, that's it.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;411146]Again, take a prob & stats class so you learn what "sample size" means[/QUOTE]
You so realize going first means you can pick ANY CARD right? It's not like going first means you have to pick the first blank and there's a higher chance the first card is a blank. I'm surprised this is still being discussed. For calling someone out as an "e stater" you sure come off as a dummy yourself.
EDIT-- I didn't mean to quote this, sorry.
[QUOTE=Viegasjuice;411149]You so realize going first means you can pick ANY CARD right? It's not like going first means you have to pick the first blank and there's a higher chance the first card is a blank. I'm surprised this is still being discussed. For calling someone out as an "e stater" you sure come off as a dummy yourself.[/QUOTE]
Step back and think
Edit--saw your edit--I was going to say...
[QUOTE=Viegasjuice;411149]You so realize going first means you can pick ANY CARD right? It's not like going first means you have to pick the first blank and there's a higher chance the first card is a blank. I'm surprised this is still being discussed. For calling someone out as an "e stater" you sure come off as a dummy yourself.[/QUOTE]
You're right, going first doesn't necessarily mean you're going to draw a blank, but based on what we've seen you have a better shot at getting a blank if you go first.
[QUOTE=JayTee;411153]You're right, going first doesn't necessarily mean you're going to draw a blank, but based on what we've seen you have a better shot at getting a blank if you go first.[/QUOTE]
LOL
[QUOTE=kvm1977;411155]LOL[/QUOTE]
You'll see next week and most likely every week after that that whoever goes first is basically safe even though mathematically speaking he has an equal chance of drawing the killcard.
[QUOTE=JayTee;411157]You'll see next week and most likely every week after that that whoever goes first is basically safe even though mathematically speaking he has an equal chance of drawing the killcard.[/QUOTE]
Again--LOL
I think I could explain this to my three year old faster
[QUOTE=kvm1977;411160]Again--LOL
I think I could explain this to my three year old faster[/QUOTE]
I'm willing to bet money that nobody who goes first will draw the kill card.
[QUOTE=JayTee;411153]You're right, going first doesn't necessarily mean you're going to draw a blank, but based on what we've seen you have a better shot at getting a blank if you go first.[/QUOTE]
That based on what we've seen this is also mainly coincidence and we have NO IDEA if theres some scripted stuff going on. It would be kind of boring and uneventful if the person going first was always getting the kill card. It has to be set up to create suspense with only 2 people left to choose a card. Let that sink in. This is reality tv after all.
[QUOTE=Viegasjuice;411166]That based on what we've seen this is also mainly coincidence and we have NO IDEA if theres some scripted stuff going on. It would be kind of boring and uneventful if the person going first was always getting the kill card. It has to be set up to create suspense with only 2 people left to choose a card. Let that sink in. This is reality tv after all.[/QUOTE]
But when something keeps happening, in this case going first and not pulling the killcard, would you still not want to have the privilege of going first? And I know this is reality TV, but give me an example of how they would go about fixing/rigging the kill card scenario.
[QUOTE=JayTee;411165]I'm willing to bet money that nobody who goes first will draw the kill card.[/QUOTE]
Remember--there's a thing called editing.
I'm honestly dumbfounded you still think you're right
Next you're going to say the world is flat
[QUOTE=kvm1977;411171]Remember--there's a thing called editing.
I'm honestly dumbfounded you still think you're right
Next you're going to say the world is flat[/QUOTE]
Remember, being stubborn and judging someone based on ONE not-so-profound scenario will not help you in your career ;)
[QUOTE=JayTee;411168]But when something keeps happening, in this case going first and not pulling the killcard, would you still not want to have the privilege of going first? And I know this is reality TV, but give me an example of how they would go about fixing/rigging the kill card scenario.[/QUOTE]
There's many ways to set it up where the first person picks a certain card, not hard. Also there's a lot of editing. We have NO idea what goes on.
[QUOTE=JayTee;411174]Remember, being stubborn and judging someone based on ONE not-so-profound scenario will not help you in your career ;)[/QUOTE]
I'm a partner in a law firm--my career has peaked.
Everyone is judged by the things they say...had you simply said, "oh, yeah, I was wrong" it wouldn't have been an issue but you keep trying to defend the stupid
[QUOTE=Viegasjuice;411175]There's many ways to set it up where the first person picks a certain card, not hard. Also there's a lot of editing. We have NO idea what goes on.[/QUOTE]
How? What if say CT was first and had his hand over the killcard, you think production would do a hand gesture or something without no one from the cast noticing? I'm sure we would have heard something by now if that were the case. I don't think everyone would keep their mouths shut about something like that.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;411178]I'm a partner in a law firm--my career has peaked.
Everyone is judged by the things they say...had you simply said, "oh, yeah, I was wrong" it wouldn't have been an issue but you keep trying to defend the stupid[/QUOTE]
This isn't a law firm though, it's a forum talking about a reality show and I still stand behind "my logic" of going first is the best way to go if you don't want the kill card based on what we've seen so far.
[QUOTE=JayTee;411181]This isn't a law firm, it's a forum talking about a reality show and I still stand behind "my logic" of going first is the best way to go if you don't want the kill card based on what we've seen so far.[/QUOTE]
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