The Challenge: Rivals II - Final Destination

Dunbar talks such a big game like he was this top player on the challenges, he is just as bad as tyrie, maybe worst now, bc he threw that elimination round.

I don't see the problem with Dunbar throwing it. I understand his reasoning. I mean he was partnered with Tyrie. Someone who has a horrible track record on these shows. He was never getting anywhere near the final challenge(or even midway through the game.) Why bother when you know you don't have a chance in hell? I'd throw it too if I were him.

Dunbar is a terrible competitor hes a joke on these things. No one takes him serious at all. Competitor or fan.

I know it says "gossip," but was I the only one who caught this from that article? [I]Other interesting gossip, according to Dunbar: Evelyn Smith ("Fresh Meat") was born a man and had a sex change when she was in her teens, which is why she's such a good competitor. [/I] Am I missing something or is that some kind of [bad] joke?

[QUOTE=Heelin';368377]I know it says "gossip," Am I missing something or is that some kind of [bad] joke?[/QUOTE] It's a carryover from something Kenny and Evan said years ago. It's simply not true.

[QUOTE=V1man;368386]It's a carryover from something Kenny and Evan said years ago. It's simply not true.[/QUOTE] Absolutely ridiculous that Dunbar would go around spreading false rumors about Evelyn being transgendered then. It's one thing to hear it as gossip, it's quite another to disseminate that type of rumor through public channels. I didn't think I could like the guy any less until now.

Dunbar mentioned 5 figures appearance fee. Is that true? I was under the impression the appearance fee was much lower. If its 5 figures, then it makes sense to me why the vets keep coming back to the show.

idk it seems kindve true, she does look like a man loll. But Dunbar wasnt gonna make it far anyways he woulda lasted about 5 weeks in trying

i would want to see tyrrie on another one

Its pretty rude to say Evelyn looks like a man

[QUOTE=boncat23;368408]idk it seems kindve true, she does look like a man loll. But Dunbar wasnt gonna make it far anyways he woulda lasted about 5 weeks in trying[/QUOTE] Complete ****! I've known Evelyn personally for nearly six years and she looks nothing like a man. I've also spent an entire day with her in an Emergency Room in the LA area while she was being treated for a severe allergic reaction. The doc and Evelyn talked about her medical history in my presence, and there was nothing at all unusual, save for the odd allergies from which she occasionally suffers.

Yeah it was my train of thought at the time, she doesn't look like a man

Evelyn definitely doesn't look like a man she is very attractive and i can easily consider her one of the Best Looking Females on The challenge

I think Evelyn is much more attractive then Jemmye or Anastasia

[QUOTE=Challenge 17;368434]I think Evelyn is much more attractive then Jemmye or Anastasia[/QUOTE] I couldn't agree more with regard to one of those named.[ATTACH]2865[/ATTACH]

I don't find Ev attractive, not my type, but she definitely doesn't look like a man.

[QUOTE=V1man;368413]Complete ****! I've known Evelyn personally for nearly six years and she looks nothing like a man. I've also spent an entire day with her in an Emergency Room in the LA area while she was being treated for a severe allergic reaction. The doc and Evelyn talked about her medical history in my presence, and there was nothing at all unusual, save for the odd allergies from which she occasionally suffers.[/QUOTE] I read that disgusting rumor in the article about Dunbar throwing the competition. I am surprised that Dunbar would attack Evelyn in that manner. I didn't want to comment on it because I didn't want to give it legs. I'm happy to see that you are defending Evelyn. I also think she's beautiful, and when she gets all dolled up she is breathtaking.

I did think jemmye was attractive but now she looks different

[QUOTE=AnneK;368441]I read that disgusting rumor in the article about Dunbar throwing the competition. I am surprised that Dunbar would attack Evelyn in that manner. I didn't want to comment on it because I didn't want to give it legs. I'm happy to see that you are defending Evelyn. I also think she's beautiful, and when she gets all dolled up she is breathtaking.[/QUOTE] Thanks, Anne, but I'm really not defending Evelyn. I'm just stating the truth as I know it.

[QUOTE=V1man;368443]Thanks, Anne, but I'm really not defending Evelyn. I'm just stating the truth as I know it.[/QUOTE] I get that, I guess I'm defending Evelyn, but since I don't know her personally and you do. . . .anyway, the rumor is gross and I'm happy that you said something to set the record straight. So thank you!

I don't think she looks like a man either. I don't think she is ugly, I think it is just how she wears her hair that bothers me. But on reunion shows with her hair different she looks pretty!

Evelyn doesn't look like a man at all. In fact, she looked stunning on Rivals.

Ev is gorgeous when she cleans up lol in competition she looks tomboyish but still pretty without makeup, she can look very feminine all dolled up, definitely doesnt have a mans body imo, shes short and small built has the body of a girl, shes just more muscular. Girls like Laurel who are tall and have broad shoulders and thick boned can pass as men, but ofcourse they need a real good plastic surgeon (no offence to Laurel, shes very pretty too) those are the types you see on the maury show those transvestites look very convincing

[QUOTE=Blue123;368464]Ev is gorgeous when she cleans up lol in competition she looks tomboyish but still pretty without makeup, she can look very feminine all dolled up, definitely doesnt have a mans body imo, shes short and small built has the body of a girl, shes just more muscular. Girls like Laurel who are tall and have broad shoulders and thick boned can pass as men, but ofcourse they need a real good plastic surgeon (no offence to Laurel, shes very pretty too) those are the types you see on the maury show those transvestites look very convincing[/QUOTE] Evelyn lost the muscle she put on for the past challenges. The last time I saw her her San Diego she was barely 100 Lbs+ Evelyn also went to cosmetology school and her hair is much different now. She looks great -- and normal, and not like a challenge "beast." Just to attempt to keep on topic, and somewhat in the theme of recent commentary, Paula should not do close ups in HD. She's a decade younger than Beth and looked older on "Watch What Happens Live."

Ev was hot on rivals!! Seems like everyone has aged well except Paula on "Watch What Happens Live."

Beth looks amazing! She hasn't aged a day since we last saw her on Guantlet 3.

Finally watching the full episode and I have to give all my thoughts - I know everyone loves Camila but ugh it's just sad to see Diem and Aneesa lose, I've grown up with them and they both seem like really old players who are going to retire (even though they are about 30 lol) and this was there last run. I'm still surprised they didn't make the final. -I hate how Cooke always talks crap about Cara Maria. Cara Maria has done well in 2 finals before Cooke had even done the show once. I sincerely hope she isn't a new star of the challenge - I love the CT bit about being Dan Marino but wanting to be Tom Brady. -Johnny still manages to be his fratbag worst. "I've creamed both CT and Wes in a final before" Why doesn't CT ever bring up the Johnny Banana Bagpack? Oh, that's right because he's classy enough to know that he is more awesome and that can easily be pulled up on youtube, ****** -Wes won The Duel too so and Rivals was a fishy final, We all know that, JB. How is JB equally ungraceful in victory as he is in defeat? - I like that Paula admitted that if the Challenge took anything but pure physical ability the playing level would be fair and she could lose. - A city final would've been awesome. - You mean Jemmye couldn't do something that required any sort of mental ability that is frequently required at the beginning of the final? [I]Shocker. - [/I]It's really beautiful how Frank, who frequently makes sure to tell people how much smarter he is than the rest of the Challenge cast, couldn't solve the puzzle.

[QUOTE=Rockstar;368597]Finally watching the full episode and I have to give all my thoughts - I know everyone loves Camila but ugh it's just sad to see Diem and Aneesa lose, I've grown up with them and they both seem like really old players who are going to retire (even though they are about 30 lol) and this was there last run. I'm still surprised they didn't make the final. -I hate how Cooke always talks crap about Cara Maria. Cara Maria has done well in 2 finals before Cooke had even done the show once. I sincerely hope she isn't a new star of the challenge - I love the CT bit about being Dan Marino but wanting to be Tom Brady. -Johnny still manages to be his fratbag worst. "I've creamed both CT and Wes in a final before" Why doesn't CT ever bring up the Johnny Banana Bagpack? Oh, that's right because he's classy enough to know that he is more awesome and that can easily be pulled up on youtube, ****** -Wes won The Duel too so and Rivals was a fishy final, We all know that, JB. How is JB equally ungraceful in victory as he is in defeat? - I like that Paula admitted that if the Challenge took anything but pure physical ability the playing level would be fair and she could lose. - A city final would've been awesome. - You mean Jemmye couldn't do something that required any sort of mental ability that is frequently required at the beginning of the final? [I]Shocker. - [/I]It's really beautiful how Frank, who frequently makes sure to tell people how much smarter he is than the rest of the Challenge cast, couldn't solve the puzzle.[/QUOTE] I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you don't like Johnny. No doubt he's a ****, but it's not like CT is some innocent choir boy. Having grown up in Boston, there are plenty of people who are aware who he is, and let's just say that he doesn't have all that great of a reputation. He's a pretty decent-sized ****, himself.

Emilee tweeted this to Dunbar "that article & the gossip tidbits were so uncalled for Dunbar." I guess she reads Vevmo. haha

She does read vevmo but I think she got it from Tyrie because he was very angry about it. Him and emilee were tweeting back in forth but she deleted most of her tweets