[QUOTE=RMD1;362318]MCranda is having a pity party. The rest of this game is going to be nuts. As much as I like Judd, it is so unfair they brought someone back from jury.[/QUOTE]
But of all the people Judd probably "deserved" it most since he went home during the double eviction and had no time to campaign for himself.
[QUOTE=Esquire;362322]But of all the people Judd probably "deserved" it most since he went home during the double eviction and had no time to campaign for himself.[/QUOTE]
He definitely does deserve another chance. I just don't think anyone who comes back deserves to win the game.
It's not a bad game move considering Aaryn has targeted her all game & is actually a strong player. Her theory is McCrae & Amanda don't win **** & Aaryn is basically the person making their moves for them. I support Elissa targeting Aaryn.
[QUOTE=TheKorean;362414]It's not a bad game move considering Aaryn has targeted her all game & is actually a strong player. Her theory is McCrae & Amanda don't win **** & Aaryn is basically the person making their moves for them. I support Elissa targeting Aaryn.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, I think Elissa's better at the game than people give her credit for, some just let personal bias get in the way of their opinion of her... She reminds me a little of Porsche, wins when she needs to, thinks one [I]maybe[/I] two moves ahead, floats on by, but doesn't have a huge grasp on the game other than winning comps = good
[QUOTE=TheKorean;362414]It's not a bad game move considering Aaryn has targeted her all game & is actually a strong player. Her theory is McCrae & Amanda don't win **** & Aaryn is basically the person making their moves for them. I support Elissa targeting Aaryn.[/QUOTE]
If Aaryn leaves this week after she puts McCrae on the block she's completely screwed unless Gina Maria wins the HOH--maybe Judd
She's thinking short term. At the very least if she's targeting Aaryn she needs to put up anyone else other than the couple who would come after her.
She may not even have the votes to take Aaryn out--assuming Aaryn doesn't win the POV.
This just isn't well thought out.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;362424]If Aaryn leaves this week after she puts McCrae on the block she's completely screwed unless Gina Maria wins the HOH--maybe Judd
She's thinking short term. At the very least if she's targeting Aaryn she needs to put up anyone else other than the couple who would come after her.
She may not even have the votes to take Aaryn out--assuming Aaryn doesn't win the POV.
This just isn't well thought out.[/QUOTE]
At this point in the game you want to be thinking short term, who is your biggest threat in competitions, Aaryn. You get rid of her then Elissa is the person who has won the most competitions. And at this point I'll take GM and Judd's chances of winning HOH over Mccrae, Andy, and Amanda.
[QUOTE=Esquire;362432]At this point in the game you want to be thinking short term, who is your biggest threat in competitions, Aaryn. You get rid of her then Elissa is the person who has won the most competitions. And at this point I'll take GM and Judd's chances of winning HOH over Mccrae, Andy, and Amanda.[/QUOTE]
Thinking short term is how people leave the following week after their HOH
Jeff's a prime example of that--twice...taking out the biggest threat in terms of competition very rarely works for the person it makes the biggest threat.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;362438]Thinking short term is how people leave the following week after their HOH
Jeff's a prime example of that--twice...taking out the biggest threat in terms of competition very rarely works for the person it makes the biggest threat.[/QUOTE]
But how was Elissa not going to be a big target next week? There is nothing she could have done this week that would not make her a target next week, so she is simply taking out her biggest competition threat, while making solid alliances.
Putting up Aaryn and McCrae would be a solid move if people stayed loyal, but they won't. As soon as Elissa is out of power, the people who claim to be with her will jump ship. It is the season of the floater.
[QUOTE=Esquire;362445]But how was Elissa not going to be a big target next week? There is nothing she could have done this week that would not make her a target next week, so she is simply taking out her biggest competition threat, while making solid alliances.[/QUOTE]
Again--elimination the biggest competitive threat never works out--check the history of the game. She should be making a one week deal with Aaryn since Aaryn would have a great shot to win the next HOH. She could have put up Amanda and McCrae (as just about any decent player would have) and tried to cut a legit deal with Aaryn, Gina Maria, Judd and possibly Spencer. Instead, she angers Aaryn, Amanda & McCrea--she also makes herself Andy's top target and, if Aaryn leaves, she ****** off Gina Maria--worst case scenario--that's what Elissa created. She literally did nothing to protect herself moving forward--she didn't even try
[QUOTE=kvm1977;362449]Again--elimination the biggest competitive threat never works out--check the history of the game. She should be making a one week deal with Aaryn since Aaryn would have a great shot to win the next HOH. She could have put up Amanda and McCrae (as just about any decent player would have) and tried to cut a legit deal with Aaryn, Gina Maria, Judd and possibly Spencer. Instead, she angers Aaryn, Amanda & McCrea--she also makes herself Andy's top target and, if Aaryn leaves, she ****** off Gina Maria--worst case scenario--that's what Elissa created. She literally did nothing to protect herself moving forward--she didn't even try[/QUOTE]
Aaryn has proven time and again she will do what Andy, McCrae and Amanda say, so Elissa can't trust a deal with her... and if you have been watching the feeds you know GM is likely to align with Elissa and Judd after this week.
[QUOTE=Esquire;362450]Aaryn has proven time and again she will do what Andy, McCrae and Amanda say, so Elissa can't trust a deal with her... and if you have been watching the feeds you know GM is likely to align with Elissa and Judd after this week.[/QUOTE]
If you take out one of Amanda or McCrea then Aaryn doesn't have that option. Elissa's best game move is with Aaryn, Judd and Gina Maria because she needs someone else that can win. The feeds indicate that GM believes they can save Aaryn--if/when they can't everything changes.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;362457]If you take out one of Amanda or McCrea then Aaryn doesn't have that option. Elissa's best game move is with Aaryn, Judd and Gina Maria because she needs someone else that can win. The feeds indicate that GM believes they can save Aaryn--if/when they can't everything changes.[/QUOTE]
How is taking one person out a four person alliance make it so Aaryn will switch sides?
[QUOTE=kvm1977;362449]Again--elimination the biggest competitive threat never works out--check the history of the game. She should be making a one week deal with Aaryn since Aaryn would have a great shot to win the next HOH. She could have put up Amanda and McCrae (as just about any decent player would have) and tried to cut a legit deal with Aaryn, Gina Maria, Judd and possibly Spencer. Instead, she angers Aaryn, Amanda & McCrea--she also makes herself Andy's top target and, if Aaryn leaves, she ****** off Gina Maria--worst case scenario--that's what Elissa created. She literally did nothing to protect herself moving forward--she didn't even try[/QUOTE]
And you are correct about eliminating the biggest threat, just look at last year when Ian got rid of Frank, his game was completely over... Oh wait he won the game.
Elissa says she wants to take Aaryn off the block and backdoor Amanda. She brought it up to Judd before Aaryn, so it seems legit. It is strange because she got this idea after being in the DR. I wonder if they influenced it at all...
No matter what Elissa would have a target on her because 3AM simply isn't going to nominate or legit target Gina Marie or Spencer. That leaves Elissa & Judd. I personally feel it was a great move & if the backdoor Amanda plan goes through & her deal with Aaryn works she put herself in an even better position. Elissa & Aaryn could be the Jun/Allison of this season where no one expects them to work together & just pick people off.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;362438]Thinking short term is how people leave the following week after their HOH
Jeff's a prime example of that--twice...taking out the biggest threat in terms of competition very rarely works for the person it makes the biggest threat.[/QUOTE]
There's only 7 people left in the game. Elissa's smartest move at this point is to get McCrae, Amanda or Aaryn out of the house.
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;362488]Elissa says she wants to take Aaryn off the block and backdoor Amanda. She brought it up to Judd before Aaryn, so it seems legit. It is strange because she got this idea after being in the DR. I wonder if they influenced it at all...[/QUOTE]
And this further proves putting up Aaryn was stupid. Put up the couple and use Andy as the replacement. There's a huge difference between bold and stupid. Judd promised to save Aaryn as well. We will likely
see Aaryn working with Judd Spencer and Andy next week which means Elissa must win a comp every week to stay. Stupid nominations from the start...even worse now with Amanda being her target
[QUOTE=kvm1977;362547]LOL--Amanda won POV--further evidence it was a mistake not putting up the couple as now Amanda saves McCrea[/QUOTE]
May the conspiracy theories extend!
[QUOTE=Esquire;362550]Looks like Andy will be the replacement nominee, so either way someone from the 3 AM alliance is going.[/QUOTE]
Amanda telling Aaryn that she will be staying if Andy goes up. We will see what happens though.
[QUOTE=GDInstall;362549]May the conspiracy theories extend![/QUOTE]
All Elissa's fault--she had the chance to break up the couple but was too stupid to put both up. Now Andy/Aaryn will leave and she accomplished nothing in trying to win the game.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;362552]All Elissa's fault--she had the chance to break up the couple but was too stupid to put both up. Now Andy/Aaryn will leave and she accomplished nothing in trying to win the game.[/QUOTE]
How is breaking up a 4 person alliance not accomplishing anything?
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