[QUOTE=V1man;361037]You don't read here enough, or you would already have guessed that "deepest, darkest secrets" was stated with sarcasm. Cooke isn't exactly a "deep" person.
Tag, you're it.[/QUOTE]
Tag I'm it? This is a game to you?
I've been a long time lurker at Vevmo. I actually started reading the site in 2008. I din't post until Diem's second bout of cancer. I thought it was important that people know what she was facing, so they could flood her with positive thoughts and prayers as a means of support.
This isn't the first time you've made negative insinuations about Cooke's character. Oddly enough they continue with the comment about her not being a "deep" person.
I don't know Cooke but I hope that if anyone does they will urge her to register here as a member so these sort of posts stop.
[QUOTE=AnneK;361048]Tag I'm it? This is a game to you?
I've been a long time lurker at Vevmo. I actually started reading the site in 2008. I din't post until Diem's second bout of cancer. I thought it was important that people know what she was facing, so they could flood her with positive thoughts and prayers as a means of support.
This isn't the first time you've made negative insinuations about Cooke's character. Oddly enough they continue with the comment about her not being a "deep" person.
I don't know Cooke but I hope that if anyone does they will urge her to register here as a member so these sort of posts stop.[/QUOTE]
Am I the only one dying to know ? Can't stand Cooke as a Challenge Competitor, or a person.
You aren't the only one. I understand AnneK's point, but because I really dislike the person that Cooke represents on TV, I'd love to hear the dirt. I don't see it happening though.
[QUOTE=Britney;361079]You aren't the only one. I understand AnneK's point, but because I really dislike the person that Cooke represents on TV, I'd love to hear the dirt. I don't see it happening though.[/QUOTE]
It wouldn't be against any terms if it was a private messaged ?? LOL
It would not be against the Terms of Service, but some of this stuff will show itself in a future Challenge episode. I'm only teasing it for you since, as all know, I don't do spoilers, not even via PMs. Sorry.
so they gon tell her dark secrets on the challenge? we already know she slept with a married man and some people say she got ******** by the whole male soccer team but I think that was a rumor
[QUOTE=Britney;361079]You aren't the only one. I understand AnneK's point, but because I really dislike the person that Cooke represents on TV, I'd love to hear the dirt. I don't see it happening though.[/QUOTE]
How do you know Cooke's character? None of us do. Even if we did, is it appropriate to divulge secrets, that may or may not be deep and/or dark depending on how you interpret quotation marks? I've read countless posts, by V1man no less, cautioning people to be skeptical about what they see when watching reality tv. It is because of those posts that I watch the show with a much more discerning eye, but I digress.
I think it's inappropriate to attack people on a personal level. I feel this way whether it is a cast member I routinely root for, or someone I'd love to see sent home week one. I don't visit other forums on the web because I don't agree with the personal attacks that go on. The reason I have continued to come to this forum, albeit as a lurker, is because they don't allow that sort of posting to go on.
In the interviews that Diem has given, she said that when she learned of the plan to break her down emotionally she made the effort to distance herself and have nothing to do with the person who made those statements. I think that was a good plan on her part, maybe we can all follow her example.
I don't claim to know Cooke's character. All I know is who she chooses to represent herself as on TV. If you read my post, you will see that is precisely what I said.
It's fine if you think it's inappropriate to "attack people on a personal level". I tend to agree. However, if your idea of "attacking" someone is saying that you dislike them, then I'm afraid our similarities end there. :P
I don't care for Cooke based on the way she is portrayed on the show but yeah I agree that it's not appropriate to go too far into attack mode against any cast member. Having said that, this is a board where we can say if we are a fan of someone or not a fan of someone or express opinions on what a cast member did or did not do on the show and so I think that's fine but it's not right to cross certain lines. I'm not directing my post to any one particular person on the board by the way (just want to make that clear), just a general message out to everyone and it's also good for me to have a reminder of that as well. We all need it sometimes.
[QUOTE=Britney;361094]I don't claim to know Cooke's character. All I know is who she chooses to represent herself as on TV. If you read my post, you will see that is precisely what I said.
It's fine if you think it's inappropriate to "attack people on a personal level". I tend to agree. However, if your idea of "attacking" someone is saying that you dislike them, then I'm afraid our similarities end there. :P[/QUOTE]
I have no problem with you, or anyone else for that matter, discussing how they feel about the show or the people who are cast on it. My problem is with V1man discussing his knowledge of Cooke's secrets and being tempted to reveal them here. I think it is inappropriate. Posts about the show, or what people did during the course of the game are fair ground. Posts about what someone may, or may not, have done outside of the game are not appropriate. That is my opinion. Obviously not everyone agrees with me because we are now seeing some EXTREMELY offensive messages about Cooke being posted here.
[QUOTE=stefx23;361096]I don't care for Cooke based on the way she is portrayed on the show but yeah I agree that it's not appropriate to go too far into attack mode against any cast member. Having said that, this is a board where we can say if we are a fan of someone or not a fan of someone or express opinions on what a cast member did or did not do on the show and so I think that's fine but it's not right to cross certain lines. I'm not directing my post to any one particular person on the board by the way (just want to make that clear), just a general message out to everyone and it's also good for me to have a reminder of that as well. We all need it sometimes.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for this! This is, for the most part, what I was trying to say earlier.
I understand what you are saying, AnneK. I also agree with stefx23. However, I can [I]also [/I]understand V1man's point of view!
It gets a bit confusing. So here we go:
I don't want to speak out of turn, but I think that on some level, [I]all four[/I] of us agree that good (or at least well-meaning) people deserve respect, and that it's not nice to talk badly about them. I think perhaps it should be left at that. Interpret it how you will! :) I don't think any one of us is trying to be a bully, so to speak.
[QUOTE=Britney;361101]I understand what you are saying, AnneK. I also agree with stefx23. However, I can [I]also [/I]understand V1man's point of view!
It gets a bit confusing. So here we go:
I don't want to speak out of turn, but I think that on some level, [I]all four[/I] of us agree that good (or at least well-meaning) people deserve respect, and that it's not nice to talk badly about them. I think perhaps it should be left at that. Interpret it how you will! :) I don't think any one of us is trying to be a bully, so to speak.[/QUOTE]
I somewhat agree, However I truly don't believe Cooke as being a " Good " person who deserves respect- and I think it may show why on the show- I just hope it shows all of it, so we aren't left to wonder since V1man won't divulge.
V1man, I understand you won't divulge any spoilers, I respect that but in regards to Cooke- can I we least know if The House will all see Cooke's true colors?
[QUOTE=Christy1;361103]I somewhat agree, However I truly don't believe Cooke as being a " Good " person who deserves respect
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Hehe. That's why I said "interpret it how you will". :) After all, is Cooke truly a good, well-meaning person like I described? Maybe we'll all find out before the season is over!
[QUOTE=Christy1;361103]I somewhat agree, However I truly don't believe Cooke as being a " Good " person who deserves respect- and I think it may show why on the show- I just hope it shows all of it, so we aren't left to wonder since V1man won't divulge.
V1man, I understand you won't divulge any spoilers, I respect that but in regards to Cooke- can I we least know if The House will all see Cooke's true colors?[/QUOTE]
All I can tell you is that whatever it is that happens was worth of taping an After Show for it on premier day; so, it's logical to assume that you will see an edit that will contain some version of what happened. We all may have to wait for the reunion show to hear any details not included in the episode or the After Show. People will be able to judge for themselves at that point.
Oh man! Yeah, several of us make good points. I think it is hard to talk about this subject much further until we know more. All I can say is if she just said something bad about Diem, well that is not cool but it's a different ballgame from messing with her medication or something like that....that would be malicious to another level...but since I don't know anything as of now I can't really say anything further. Whatever it was, I hope it's not something that makes Diem not want to come back for another challenge. I selfishly as a fan want to see her back.
I had to edit this post to add, if what Cooke did was more than just the average stirring up of drama that normally goes on in these challenges then I question Bunim/Murray having her back again or even allowing her to do an aftershow. Anyway, I am talking really without knowing all of my facts. I guess I just keep thinking about this now.
Diem has not even officially said if it was Cooke, your right on that, but I just don't know who else it could be. Well whoever it was and whatever happened, I just hope Diem is okay and wants to come back, bottom line, that's all I care about as a fan.
Let's be real though....I think it's Cooke.
[QUOTE=V1man;361107]All I can tell you is that whatever it is that happens was worth of taping an After Show for it on premier day; so, it's logical to assume that you will see an edit that will contain some version of what happened. We all may have to wait for the reunion show to hear any details not included in the episode or the After Show. People will be able to judge for themselves at that point.[/QUOTE]
Wow I seriously can not imagine what she did! I almost don't even want to watch, it might make me not like Cooke even more:upset:
[QUOTE=kvm1977;361144]think back to the first Fresh Meat--I don't think it is difficult to figure out what the hint here is--but I could be wrong[/QUOTE]
kvm, what do you mean? I see that Wes was the only one on that season with Diem, corresponding to this season. ??
[QUOTE=Britney;361146]kvm, what do you mean? I see that Wes was the only one on that season with Diem, corresponding to this season. ??[/QUOTE]
I don't remember the specifics but during Fresh Meat someone "stole" Diem's pills not knowing what they were...thinking Cooke did the same only she may have known what they were.
Oh wow....okay....yeah I have not seen all of Fresh Meat season, probably just clips here and there online so I had no idea that happened. All I can say is jeez, if this is truly what Cooke did and this will be the second time something like this has happened to Diem then if I were Diem I would just straight up stop coming on the challenge so soon after cancer treatment. I mean cast members need to at least be guaranteed safety while they are filming, that's ridiculous!
But ya know, Diem should be able to come on challenges anytime she wants to though and she comes on so soon after treatment because she needs it mentally and to get back to her old self so it ****** me off that because of people not knowing how to act like human beings that she would not be able to!!
[QUOTE=kvm1977;361147]I don't remember the specifics but during Fresh Meat someone "stole" Diem's pills not knowing what they were...thinking Cooke did the same only she may have known what they were.[/QUOTE]
What the ****? If so, that's pathetic.
Am I one of the only ones around here who looks at a pill and says, "Hmm, I wonder what effect that will have on my body, for good or worse?" instead of, "Woo! Free high!"? Stupidity. (Natural Selection? :culpability:)
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