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I legit cried when I heard this. Is that creepy? Glee is one of those rare scripted shows that I faithfully watch. Anyone who knows me on this site knows that I only watch reality show other than Vampire Dairies. I followed them on the showe and in real life and I feel like I know them I am truly saddened by this. Prayers go out to Ryan Murphy, Lea Michele, Corey's family & friends, and the cast of Glee. This show is truly going to be hard to watch.
I didn't cry, but it did hit me hard for some reason. I thought I was being creepy too lol.
[QUOTE=202mitch;353672]wow... thats really shocking.. and sad. :( I was expecting coke at worst, but heroin? yikes... and he's been struggling with that for more than 10 years (maybe not heroin, but substance addiction)[/QUOTE] I watched an interview with him where he said he was either drinking or doing drugs since 12 or 13. I remember it being a crazy young age. I usually don't feel bad for people who OD, but he really tried to kick it. I think that's the only reason I have sympathy. He really wanted to stop.
I'm still very sad about all of this. Although I'm shocked some of the cast haven't said that much on twitter. They seem to be going about their business.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;354925]I'm still very sad about all of this. Although I'm shocked some of the cast haven't said that much on twitter. They seem to be going about their business.[/QUOTE] I'm sure they are all sad, plus I think most of them have stated things in twitter. I think it shows how close they were by not responding that much publicly.
Well at least it has been confirmed that they will do a tribute episode with Finn's death... it will be the third episode back.. then they will go on a long hiatus. I heard the first two episodes are Beatles tributes too which I am insanely happy about... took them long enough! Also happy Lea said she will stay with the series! It will be really hard watching her character deal with the death, after dealing with the real deal all of these weeks leading up to filming. I am really proud of her.. and happy that NYC will still be a main focus.
[QUOTE=202mitch;355034]Well at least it has been confirmed that they will do a tribute episode with Finn's death... it will be the third episode back.. then they will go on a long hiatus. I heard the first two episodes are Beatles tributes too which I am insanely happy about... took them long enough![/QUOTE] I really don't understand the programming department at Fox. How do you have 3 episodes back and then go on hiatus? I understand they have the World Series, but they need to change this up. Make it a mid season replacement and air all 22 episodes in a row. This **** is annoying. They are talking about using old footage of "Finn" during the first two episodes to make some type of storyline as to how he will die. I think they need to make him OD. I know it will be hard for the cast, especially lea, but Glee always went for the issues of teens in today's society.
[QUOTE=RMD1;355036]I really don't understand the programming department at Fox. How do you have 3 episodes back and then go on hiatus? I understand they have the World Series, but they need to change this up. Make it a mid season replacement and air all 22 episodes in a row. This **** is annoying. They are talking about using old footage of "Finn" during the first two episodes to make some type of storyline as to how he will die. I think they need to make him OD. I know it will be hard for the cast, especially lea, but Glee always went for the issues of teens in today's society.[/QUOTE] I disagree about having him OD. Not only do I think it would be downright cruel to the cast (namely Lea) to have to act that out, it's completely out of character for Finn. There's never been anything that would suggest Finn may do drugs. It seems kind of disrespectful. Finn is not Cory and Cory is not Finn. IMO. But, that hasn't stopped the writers before, so... Ryan Murphy has also stated that they plan to have the tribute be fairly upbeat. Seems like it'll be more a celebration of his life rather than a depressing episode. EDIT: Did anybody see the video of Chord Overstreet performing an original song he wrote for Cory at his show this past weekend? It was a really good performance/song. Sad though. And then afterwards E! interviewed him about Cory and he was choking up a little. You could tell he didn't want to give the interview at all. It was sad.
[QUOTE=mph922;355047]I disagree about having him OD. Not only do I think it would be downright cruel to the cast (namely Lea) to have to act that out, it's completely out of character for Finn. There's never been anything that would suggest Finn may do drugs. It seems kind of disrespectful. Finn is not Cory and Cory is not Finn. IMO. But, that hasn't stopped the writers before, so... Ryan Murphy has also stated that they plan to have the tribute be fairly upbeat. Seems like it'll be more a celebration of his life rather than a depressing episode. EDIT: Did anybody see the video of Chord Overstreet performing an original song he wrote for Cory at his show this past weekend? It was a really good performance/song. Sad though. And then afterwards E! interviewed him about Cory and he was choking up a little. You could tell he didn't want to give the interview at all. It was sad.[/QUOTE] Yeah maybe your right. I just feel like Glee is such a great show for these kind of topics. I was looking at it more in the sense of teenagers can learn a lot by seeing their favorite character go out like the way he did in real life. It's the ultimate teaching lesion and I'm sure Cory would want to help people not go through what he did. It would be very hard for the cast however.
I personally think hell will freeze over before they show Finn OD'ing as a means of letting his character die. It would be like them exposing Cory in the same way. They were his castmates and his friends. I just can't see them doing that to him, and if they did, it would be in poor taste. I don't know what they will do, but I do know that there will be a definite hole in the show afterwards. Everyone who has known him has described him as such a kind, positive guy. For them to give him any other kind of ending on the show would be an injustice.
Wow, so if I were to kill myself, I'd get an emmy tribute too? SMH...
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;356213]Wow, so if I were to kill myself, I'd get an emmy tribute too? SMH...[/QUOTE] That's extremely insensitive because he struggled with this since he was a kid, but you're answer is no. You are not famous.
[QUOTE=RMD1;356234]That's extremely insensitive because he struggled with this since he was a kid, but you're answer is no. You are not famous.[/QUOTE] No it's not insensitive. Killing yourself is no way to go. He was planning his wedding to Lea Michelle and I seriously doubt things were that bad that he had to get a hotel room to die. **** ain't right. And it's like rewarding him. And that question, genius, was rhetorical.
This may be "insensitive" but I don't believe for a second there should be a tribute to him. He didn't die a "tragic" death. He made choices (regardless of his age at the time) that led to his demise. He had every resource anyone could want/need and we still saw the end result. People can't be saved for themselves. People make choices and those around them are forced to live with the consequences. Cory did what he did and doesn't anything close to "a tribute". Hell, what are we even paying tribute to? He wasn't a good actor. It is sad whenever anyone dies...especially "young people" but "a tribute"...please
[QUOTE=Nostalgic;356237]No it's not insensitive. Killing yourself is no way to go. He was planning his wedding to Lea Michelle and I seriously doubt things were that bad that he had to get a hotel room to die. **** ain't right. And it's like rewarding him. And that question, genius, was rhetorical.[/QUOTE] It's extremely insensitive. He didn't kill himself, he didn't do it on purpose. accidental OD's happen all the time. Thanks for the kind compliment, I wish I could say the same :)
There's going to be a tribute to him regardless of what anyone thinks. He did a lot of good things as well. People shouldn't be defined by the negative, but that's what people negative people like to focus on.
[QUOTE=RMD1;356249]There's going to be a tribute to him regardless of what anyone thinks. He did a lot of good things as well. People shouldn't be defined by the negative, but that's what people negative people like to focus on.[/QUOTE] Let's name this "good things" he did...I'll patiently await this. What the tribute will be is him singing (with the help of auto-tune) on Glee...other than that his career consisted of what? Being killed off on the first scene of an early episode of Supernatural? Cory may have been a good guy with a problem but let's not pretend that he didn't have every opportunity in the world to seek the help and remain clean. Every time he started to use again he did so knowing this would likely be the result. You only get so many chances.
He flew across country on his own dime to see a little girl with cancer, but people will remember him for doing drugs. I'm not saying he's a hero, but he isn't a monster.
[QUOTE=RMD1;356251]He flew across country on his own dime to see a little girl with cancer, but people will remember him for doing drugs. I'm not saying he's a hero, but he isn't a monster.[/QUOTE] No one said "he's a monster"...people said he isn't someone that deserves a tribute. To me, the bigger issue is that his career was essentially nonexistent then the way he died. This isn't River Phoenix passing away.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;356252]No one said "he's a monster"...people said he isn't someone that deserves a tribute. To me, the bigger issue is that his career was essentially nonexistent then the way he died. This isn't River Phoenix passing away.[/QUOTE] Glee had a huge impact on the entire world, are you denying that? He was a huge part of the show and he made his mark in television and in music (sure they are covers but still). What do you want him to do for a tribute win an Oscar? Damn.
His character Finn has been the inspiration for many, MANY, young teenagers who are afraid to be who they are... Cory was also a very kind-hearted and selfless person in real life too. He struggled with a drug problem for a long period of his life, much like many other famous people that were taken at a young age too... his death is no less important. He and his charcater had huge impacts on the generation of kids that watch glee. Nostalgic and kvm, you two are being extremely disrespectful about him and its sad to see people only focusing on the negatives in his life. His drug problem will also set a huge example to kids and teens alike. I think a small tribute would be great... as a leading man on one of the top teen dramas of the past few years, I think it is very fitting. He was well known, whether you watch glee or you don't.
[QUOTE=202mitch;356254]His character Finn has been the inspiration for many, MANY, young teenagers who are afraid to be who they are... Cory was also a very kind-hearted and selfless person in real life too. He struggled with a drug problem for a long period of his life, much like many other famous people that were taken at a young age too... his death is no less important. He and his charcater had huge impacts on the generation of kids that watch glee. Nostalgic and kvm, you two are being extremely disrespectful about him and its sad to see people only focusing on the negatives in his life. His drug problem will also set a huge example to kids and teens alike.[/QUOTE] This is all absurd. I don't know what world people live in. Cory decided to use drugs--that was a choice. And despite having advantages that most people don't continued to use. The fact people are claiming we're only focusing on the negative is laughable. Cory didn't take the role to "be an inspiration"...he took it because he was an out-of work actor that needed a paycheck. Again, he can't act and he needed auto-tone to sing. A tribute is completely uncalled for. If Lea Michele passed away, God-forbid, a tribute would be worthy as she's actually talented. Cory wasn't. Just because he is dead doesn't mean people have to pretend he was something he wasn't. Basically, I think this is people thought he was cute and liked a character he portrayed. This is really about losing "Finn" not Cory
[QUOTE=RMD1;356253]Glee had a huge impact on the entire world, are you denying that? He was a huge part of the show and he made his mark in television and in music (sure they are covers but still). What do you want him to do for a tribute win an Oscar? Damn.[/QUOTE] The entire world? Please use legit arguments.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;356256]This is all absurd. I don't know what world people live in. Cory decided to use drugs--that was a choice. And despite having advantages that most people don't continued to use. The fact people are claiming we're only focusing on the negative is laughable. Cory didn't take the role to "be an inspiration"...he took it because he was an out-of work actor that needed a paycheck. Again, he can't act and he needed auto-tone to sing. A tribute is completely uncalled for. If Lea Michele passed away, God-forbid, a tribute would be worthy as she's actually talented. Cory wasn't. Just because he is dead doesn't mean people have to pretend he was something he wasn't. Basically, I think this is people thought he was cute and liked a character he portrayed. This is really about losing "Finn" not Cory[/QUOTE] I don't know what world [i]you[/i] live in, but this is not about losing "Finn". That was not my point at all. Why are you SO insensitive... I guess you feel this way about all overdose victims.. sorry Jim Morrison... sorry Amy Winehouse...sorry Chris Farley... you may not have thought he was a talented actor, but I thought he did a great job in the inspirational role he portrayed. But even outside of "glee"... he was a selfless human being... he was loved by many, many people... and he tried multiple times to kick the habit. It's really sad that his life ultimately ended up alone in a hotel room, with an overdose, and no friends around. It's sad because he was extremely well known for the leading man of this show that has changed so many lives. You really need to get your head out of the gutter... do you have an extremely bad addiction problem? do you know what he was feeling at the time? you don't know s***. So yeah, you are being insensitive and disrespectful... and the fact that you can't see that is what's really sad here.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;356257]The entire world? Please use legit arguments.[/QUOTE] Around the world? Yes it has. Do you watch the show? Know anything about it?
I live in this world. One where people are human. There's nothing insensitive or disrespectful about dealing with facts. He was an addict that had the best care money could buy and continually went back to using. Morrison, Winehouse and Farley were all talented--Monteith was not. I don't understand why you believe I can't be honest about his talent, or lack thereof, simply because he's dead. I grew up in this industry and still have friends in it. I never heard a positive word about Cory until he was dead. Not one...to me, that's telling. His death is sad but it isn't tragic. He took his own life even though it wasn't intentional. When someone dies that doesn't mean you can't remember them for the good and for the bad. People still talk about River's profound drug-use but River was actually a great person that truly cared about things--he didn't just do things for PR. If the character Finn made a positive impact on your life that's great but that's not Cory. Don't confuse them
[QUOTE=RMD1;356261]Around the world? Yes it has. Do you watch the show? Know anything about it?[/QUOTE] You said "entire world" not "around the world"...there's a difference. Although technically neither are true. Remember I'm a lawyer--pick your words wisely. I think it is absolutely ridiculous that people refuse to accept Cory for who he was. Let's not change who he was...hopefully people can learn from his mistakes but Cory (NOT FINN) is not a person that should have been admired hence I think a tribute is ridiculous. If you want to see a tribute that's great but why are attacking someone simply because they disagree. We aren't required to agree nor does it make me a "bad" or "negative" person to have a different opinion. People die every day--many who did far more good than ONE thing you can point out about Cory that are never recognized. If you think Cory is worthy of recognition that's great--I don't. And I can express that.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;356263]You said "entire world" not "around the world"...there's a difference. Although technically neither are true. Remember I'm a lawyer--pick your words wisely. I think it is absolutely ridiculous that people refuse to accept Cory for who he was. Let's not change who he was...hopefully people can learn from his mistakes but Cory (NOT FINN) is not a person that should have been admired hence I think a tribute is ridiculous. If you want to see a tribute that's great but why are attacking someone simply because they disagree. We aren't required to agree nor does it make me a "bad" or "negative" person to have a different opinion. People die every day--many who did far more good than ONE thing you can point out about Cory that are never recognized. If you think Cory is worthy of recognition that's great--I don't. And I can express that.[/QUOTE] And I can express how I feel, and I will. No one is attacking anyone so relax. I said what I wanted to so you can say what you please, and I can choose to just slide my finger past your post.
RMD1, you continually alter things and try to attack with comments like "that's what negative people focus on" and the ridiculous statement that someone called him a monster. When you make comments like this your asking for argument because you're attacking and changing the point others are making. Stick with facts--like the entire world DOES NOT KNOW about Glee. Stop exaggerating to make a point. You asked what I wanted to believe he was worthy of a tribute. I answered and it upset you--it makes no sense. You didn't know Cory--this isn't personal. Just because he was on your TV portraying a character doesn't mean you have any idea who he is.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;356267]RMD1, you continually alter things and try to attack with comments like "that's what negative people focus on" and the ridiculous statement that someone called him a monster. When you make comments like this your asking for argument because you're attacking and changing the point others are making. Stick with facts--like the entire world DOES NOT KNOW about Glee. Stop exaggerating to make a point. You asked what I wanted to believe he was worthy of a tribute. I answered and it upset you--it makes no sense. You didn't know Cory--this isn't personal. Just because he was on your TV portraying a character doesn't mean you have any idea who he is.[/QUOTE] Was not trying to personally attack anyone at all. Negative people tend to focus on negative things. Do you disagree? I misspoke about "the entire world" comment and corrected myself in a later post, did I not? When I asked you that it was clearly sarcastic with the Oscar comment. It doesn't really upset me at all. I was neither a big fan or Corey nor his character,but a lot of people looked up to his character, which he obviously portrayed. I just find it insane that you don't see the mark he left on television or music.

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