The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

KVM 1977, I would also include Sarah in that list of elite girls.

[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;335716]Aneesa would eat Evelyn alive in a physical elim. Yeah, I said it.[/QUOTE] I know them both and couldn't disagree more strongly, unless perhaps if the competition involved pole dancing.

I think it is highly possible that Holly Shand could take Evelyn. She definitely belongs in that first group of girls with Emily, Laurel, and Ev. I'm aware Ev is law school which means we'll miss her on the Challenges pretty much forever at this point unless she takes advantage of a Challenge done during summer break.

Unless Evelyn is on this next challenge (which she clearly wont be), why are we talking about her in this thread that is about the Spring 2013 Challenge? Emily probably is there, so why arent we speculating about her? BTW: [url=http://instagram.com/p/WlKmsgpw_G]Photo by jdeezymtv • Instagram[/url] Could be close. However both are talking a lot about cardio and gym. Im very intrigued about how Frank and Zach will work this time? After watching the stream from MTV which CT did and one podcast with both Frank and Zach, I speculate that Zach/Frank will probably work with CT and not Johnny if they had to choose. They said that CT was one of only a few who didnt start bashing them, because they started this "rookie revolution" and Johnny was a massive investigator there. I think they hold a huge grudge against Johnny. And if Zach/Frank are smart they should keep CT until the final and then beat him there, since he is a liability in a final, because of his massive chain-smoking.

I'd actually like to see Frank go home as early as possible. It'll make the Challenge more watchable after he leaves.

If Nia is there and if MTV decides to bring bad ratings mcgee aka frank, I hope Nia punches him in the face.

So if its a Vets vs Rookies challenge and they keep the rules the with being if uve done 2 challenges or more your a vet this is the team so far: Johnny, Tyler, CT, Chet, Leroy, Sarah, Paula, Diem, Jonna, and Emily Schroom. Thats a pretty bad *** squad and thats why I feel like its gotta be an old school vs new school or a new format. If its new school and Leroy and Emily are on the other team that would seem to even it out. Rookies: Zach, Frank, Trey, Nany, 1 Portland Guy, 1 Portland Girl so far.

[QUOTE=GDInstall;335722]Unless Evelyn is on this next challenge (which she clearly wont be), why are we talking about her in this thread that is about the Spring 2013 Challenge? Emily probably is there, so why arent we speculating about her? BTW: [URL="http://instagram.com/p/WlKmsgpw_G"]Photo by jdeezymtv • Instagram[/URL] Could be close. However both are talking a lot about cardio and gym. Im very intrigued about how Frank and Zach will work this time? After watching the stream from MTV which CT did and one podcast with both Frank and Zach, I speculate that Zach/Frank will probably work with CT and not Johnny if they had to choose. They said that CT was one of only a few who didnt start bashing them, because they started this "rookie revolution" and Johnny was a massive investigator there. I think they hold a huge grudge against Johnny. And if Zach/Frank are smart they should keep CT until the final and then beat him there, since he is a liability in a final, because of his massive chain-smoking.[/QUOTE] Which podcast did zach and frank say that in?

[QUOTE=Reily Man;335726]So if its a Vets vs Rookies challenge and they keep the rules the with being if uve done 2 challenges or more your a vet this is the team so far: Johnny, Tyler, CT, Chet, Leroy, Sarah, Paula, Diem, Jonna, and Emily Schroom. Thats a pretty bad *** squad and thats why I feel like its gotta be an old school vs new school or a new format. If its new school and Leroy and Emily are on the other team that would seem to even it out. Rookies: Zach, Frank, Trey, Nany, 1 Portland Guy, 1 Portland Girl so far.[/QUOTE] That cast of Vets will be very hard to beat. I wonder if Jasmine will be on this one since she said she was retiring but changed that like 2 hours later.. I also want Mark on here - a vets vs rooks wouldn't be the same without him. But to be perfectly honest, I think that format is played out. Battle Of The Seasons basically ended up being rooks vs vets, and The Ruins (even though it was "Chapions" vs "Challengers") was nothing more than the same. I either want a Duel or Inferno (good guys vs. Bad ***) As for the Portland girl, I read on another board that production really wants Joi or Nia. Jess is on Spring Break and Averey isn't interested.

The only issue with the Duel is THE LIST ... it makes it way too predictable. I'd rather they find another 1-on-1 format to do it with.

[QUOTE=Kajun;335724]If Nia is there and if MTV decides to bring bad ratings mcgee aka frank, I hope Nia punches him in the face.[/QUOTE] And I said the exact same thing!! But they seem to be getting along pretty well on Twitter. Something about the "Hurricanes uniting" [QUOTE=Desertpuma;335730]The only issue with the Duel is THE LIST ... it makes it way too predictable. I'd rather they find another 1-on-1 format to do it with.[/QUOTE] True..but then again you never know. I would have never predicted San Diego dominating last season. But yeah, i can see CT and Emily/Laurel killing everyone in a Duel.

[QUOTE=townie;335692]Evelyn would eat Rachel for an appetizer, get real.[/QUOTE] We've never seen it so we will never know for sure...but imo I disagree. [QUOTE=kvm1977;335697]Honestly, it would depend what the elimination round was. Emily, Evelyn, Rachel & Laurel are the elite girls but they could all lose to each other depending what the elimination round was. I wish Evelyn would have been on the Duel II because I would have loved to have seen her face Rachel or even Aneesa in a one on one situation. I still pray there's a Duel III someday with all 4 of them. Until that happens I don't know how anyone could claim any of them would destroy another one. Evelyn is the smartest of the group though--I don't think there's much room for debate on that one.[/QUOTE] I think Rachel is pretty smart....her and Veronica used to rule the game for a challenge or two. She always seems to avoid elimination rounds. [QUOTE=Reily Man;335726]So if its a Vets vs Rookies challenge and they keep the rules the with being if uve done 2 challenges or more your a vet this is the team so far: Johnny, Tyler, CT, Chet, Leroy, Sarah, Paula, Diem, Jonna, and Emily Schroom. Thats a pretty bad *** squad and thats why I feel like its gotta be an old school vs new school or a new format. If its new school and Leroy and Emily are on the other team that would seem to even it out. Rookies: Zach, Frank, Trey, Nany, 1 Portland Guy, 1 Portland Girl so far.[/QUOTE] Not gonna lie...that sounds like a bad cast. I'd be happy to see Paula & Diem....Emily & Nany are alright too...but so far I'm not impressed.

[QUOTE=Psy4potato;335732] Not gonna lie...that sounds like a bad cast.[/QUOTE] I feel like I;m totally opposite of everyone here..lol I think it sounds like a good start (IF IF IF it's true)I mean..we've seen [B]way[/B] worse.

I'm going to play wait and see with the casting. I'm just as interested to see the game mechanics.

[QUOTE=Reily Man;335726]So if its a Vets vs Rookies challenge and they keep the rules the with being if uve done 2 challenges or more your a vet this is the team so far: Johnny, Tyler, CT, Chet, Leroy, Sarah, Paula, Diem, Jonna, and Emily Schroom. Thats a pretty bad *** squad and thats why I feel like its gotta be an old school vs new school or a new format. If its new school and Leroy and Emily are on the other team that would seem to even it out. Rookies: Zach, Frank, Trey, Nany, 1 Portland Guy, 1 Portland Girl so far.[/QUOTE] Ew.

why does everyone hate this cast i think its good

[QUOTE=GDInstall;335722] Im very intrigued about how Frank and Zach will work this time? After watching the stream from MTV which CT did and one podcast with both Frank and Zach, I speculate that Zach/Frank will probably work with CT and not Johnny if they had to choose. [B]They said that CT was one of only a few who didnt start bashing them[/B], because they started this "rookie revolution" and Johnny was a massive investigator there. I think they hold a huge grudge against Johnny. And if Zach/Frank are smart they should keep CT until the final and then beat him there, since he is a liability in a final, because of his massive chain-smoking.[/QUOTE] CT also congratulated Zach on Twitter after he won last season. On a side note, I think it would be cool if they did a Cutthroat style challenge with a vet team, a rookie team, and then an in between team. People like Leroy, Emily, Dustin, CJ and Jonna would be inbetweeners. I'm just a fan of the 3 team format.

I hope Johnny and Joi represnt Portland first before their other cast members. I also want Isaac and Dustin to get another shot.

[QUOTE=WallyT09;335738]why does everyone hate this cast i think its good[/QUOTE] I really like that cast too. Really not sure why the issue is

[QUOTE=YvanEhtNioj;335729]That cast of Vets will be very hard to beat. I wonder if Jasmine will be on this one since she said she was retiring but changed that like 2 hours later.. I also want Mark on here - a vets vs rooks wouldn't be the same without him. But to be perfectly honest, I think that format is played out. Battle Of The Seasons basically ended up being rooks vs vets, and The Ruins (even though it was "Chapions" vs "Challengers") was nothing more than the same. I either want a Duel or Inferno (good guys vs. Bad ***) As for the Portland girl, I read on another board that production really wants Joi or Nia. Jess is on Spring Break and [B] Averey isn't interested.[/B][/QUOTE] On Twitter, Averey wrote that she was interesting in doing one. From Portland I hope that especially jordan does one. If not I wouldn't mind seeing Marlon, Nia , Joi and Averey. On another note CJ just moved to New York City for ''business'' , he said he is living there for the next couple of months. So I don't think he is going to be o this one. I really like the speculated ''cast'' so far, but I think the veterans team would be to stacked since they have the strength, the strategiest and the brains. I also hope that more old school people are speculated to be on this challenge. I am hoping for Coral, Landon and Darrel.

[QUOTE=Psy4potato;335732] I think Rachel is pretty smart....her and Veronica used to rule the game for a challenge or two. She always seems to avoid elimination rounds. [/QUOTE] Rachel's a good strategist (at times) but Evelyn's more intelligent. That's not a knock on Rachel but Rachel's not in Evelyn's league as far as that goes. For the record, I like Rachel far more than Evelyn but I'm just being honest.

[QUOTE=kvm1977;335741]I really like that cast too. Really not sure why the issue is[/QUOTE] It's not the cast. The idea of Vets vs Rookies turns me off if the teams are going to be set like THAT.

I just hope they don't pair a rookie with a veteran. Another pair challenge would suck -.- I don't want to see people get screwed like Mandi did on Exes and CJ did on Battle of the seasons. I want to see one vs one elimination rounds again.

[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;335744]It's not the cast. The idea of Vets vs Rookies turns me off if the teams are going to be set like THAT.[/QUOTE] I can understand that. Personally, I don't care how the teams are broken up as long as there's one on one elimination rounds.

[QUOTE=WallyT09;335738]why does everyone hate this cast i think its good[/QUOTE] They're loco. I think it's amazing. People are failing to realize that people can't do Challenges for the rest of their life and eventually new blood has to take over.

I have no overall issue with the cast and certainly know that real life has to take precedence. I just wish Frank would never return as his lack of presence improves the show.

I think the cast is terrible because mainly Frank is such a vile human who single handedly ruins the show. For me personally I can't stand Tyler or Paula, and I have Sarah and Johnny fatigue. Johnny I don't hate. It's just predictable and boring, they could VERY easily get a more diverse interesting cast of GOOD fresh faces. But it's all opinion and preference. And do we have any proof that Reily knows what he's talking about?

Agree. The only logical reason I could see production inviting him back is because they are trying to set up some type of Johnny,Kenny,CT,Evan vs Frank thing that everyone (including myself) would love to see.

I think Frank is going to be the new Wes.