The Challenge: Battle of the Seasons - Discussion (Spoilers)

[QUOTE=JL81790;325658]So now we're at (in terms of the remaining mysteries of the season)[COLOR=Blue][/COLOR] ? beats [COLOR=DarkGreen]Derek/Jonna[/COLOR] in Physical/Strategy/Endurance (hopefully Endurance for the irony) [/QUOTE] San Diego sends home the entire Cancun team in Hall Brawl, you can (very clearly) see Derek in the elimination getting hit by San Diego, and I'm almost positive it's Frank and (hopefully) Ashley.

Ya know, I'm a little confused now. Maybe somebody can help me out. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough, but I'm looking for the preview/promo where it shows more of the Cancun/SD Hall Brawl. I could've sworn there was one where it showed a member of SD seriously crushing a member of Cancun (who's name on the shorts was longer than "CJ" so I knew it was Derek), but now the only clips of Hall Brawl from previews show CJ beating Zach and almost having Zach pushed out of the hall. Honestly maybe I was drunk or something when I first saw the preview and mistook the colors of the jerseys or something and this is the only clip out there lol. And Molds said, as far as she knows, SD is responsible for sending home the entire Cancun team, so this confirms my belief even more that the clip I'm thinking of is out there somewhere. So if anybody can find me the shot of a SD male (who I believe is Frank) killing a Cancun male (Derek) that'd be great.

[QUOTE=Morris1721;325673]Ya know, I'm a little confused now. Maybe somebody can help me out. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough, but I'm looking for the preview/promo where it shows more of the Cancun/SD Hall Brawl. I could've sworn there was one where it showed a member of SD seriously crushing a member of Cancun (who's name on the shorts was longer than "CJ" so I knew it was Derek), but now the only clips of Hall Brawl from previews show CJ beating Zach and almost having Zach pushed out of the hall. Honestly maybe I was drunk or something when I first saw the preview and mistook the colors of the jerseys or something and this is the only clip out there lol. And Molds said, as far as she knows, SD is responsible for sending home the entire Cancun team, so this confirms my belief even more that the clip I'm thinking of is out there somewhere. So if anybody can find me the shot of a SD male (who I believe is Frank) killing a Cancun male (Derek) that'd be great.[/QUOTE] Woah that'd be surprising if Frank goes in over Zach into the physical elimination. Zach seems like he is perfect for that one

I think next week SD and Cancun face off in a Physical elimination round where no doubt CJ and Jasmine will step up being that he and she are stronger than Derek and Jonna, but on the flip side SD will argue about it but I think Zach will step up because he'll want to prove a point to Frank that Zach is a man about his word and will step up to face CJ in Hall Brawl which would probably **** Frank off.

In a promo we see Zach vs CJ in Hall Brawl, Zach celebrating looking like he beat CJ with Derek on the sideline and Sam celebrating too in what looks like Padding under her jersey, but them we see Ashley running to the Hall Brawl bell so I think in the last Physical elimination round Frank and Ashley step up because I seriously doubt Zach will go in 3 times and Frank never goes in so at the end Frank mans up and goes in against Derek and Ashley takes on Jonna.

So funny how Derek loses all the time on elimination rounds he probably thought since he was in the main "alliance" he would get a free pass through the final...wrong!

Are we sure that no one get sent home outside of an elimination, such as maybe alton really does quit? We have already had 7 episodes and its assumed we have 4 more pairs go home, which would episodes 8-11. With the final usually getting 2 episodes with im sure frank's hall brawl getting the usual tbc treatment taking us through episode 13. Thats three more we have been getting since the hour format was introduce in gauntlet 3, every other season had 9 or 10 not counting reunions or **** shows. Im thrilled if we get more episodes, but i would be surprised to if mtv increased the episode count by 3.

[QUOTE=jefflevi89;325699]Are we sure that no one get sent home outside of an elimination, such as maybe alton really does quit? We have already had 7 episodes and its assumed we have 4 more pairs go home, which would episodes 8-11. With the final usually getting 2 episodes with im sure frank's hall brawl getting the usual tbc treatment taking us through episode 13. Thats three more we have been getting since the hour format was introduce in gauntlet 3, every other season had 9 or 10 not counting reunions or **** shows. Im thrilled if we get more episodes, but i would be surprised to if mtv increased the episode count by 3.[/QUOTE] No there are still four challenges left before the final: Hunger Games, Treasure Chest, Inflatable Ring Bumping and the Slide challenge in that order, which means we have four more episodes before the final challenge. Episode 12 is the final challenge (might start in episode 11 as Derek said there is a location change which might indicate the final Arena takes place in Namibia. There will be no new episode on Thanksgiving Wednesday, November 21. This means episode 12 would be slated for December 19. The following Wednesday is the day after Christmas which means the series must end on December 19. There will be 12 episodes max, and the reunion must follow the final episode. There can not be 13 episodes.

[QUOTE=gbp02;325706]No there are still four challenges left before the final: Hunger Games, Treasure Chest, Inflatable Ring Bumping and the Slide challenge in that order, which means we have four more episodes before the final challenge. Episode 12 is the final challenge (might start in episode 11 as Derek said there is a location change which might indicate the final Arena takes place in Namibia. There will be no new episode on Thanksgiving Wednesday, November 21. This means episode 12 would be slated for December 19. The following Wednesday is the day after Christmas which means the series must end on December 19. There will be 12 episodes max, and the reunion must follow the final episode. There can not be 13 episodes.[/QUOTE] Thanks for clarifying it would not surprise me if we got thirteen though because the length of the finals make it almost impossible to show them in just 1 epsiode. It would be hard to start the final challenge in 11 with a regular challenge and arena scheduled to take place.

[QUOTE=Morris1721;325673]Ya know, I'm a little confused now. Maybe somebody can help me out. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough, but I'm looking for the preview/promo where it shows more of the Cancun/SD Hall Brawl. I could've sworn there was one where it showed a member of SD seriously crushing a member of Cancun (who's name on the shorts was longer than "CJ" so I knew it was Derek), but now the only clips of Hall Brawl from previews show CJ beating Zach and almost having Zach pushed out of the hall. Honestly maybe I was drunk or something when I first saw the preview and mistook the colors of the jerseys or something and this is the only clip out there lol. And Molds said, as far as she knows, SD is responsible for sending home the entire Cancun team, so this confirms my belief even more that the clip I'm thinking of is out there somewhere. So if anybody can find me the shot of a SD male (who I believe is Frank) killing a Cancun male (Derek) that'd be great.[/QUOTE] There's clearly more than one round. Just because SD wins overall doesn't mean that Cancun didn't win a round at least. Maybe it also explains Devyn's comment: "You just got your *** beat by the guy going after your Ex-girlfriend" CJ might have won a round and everyone got hyped and it went into round 3.

[QUOTE=wutzrenzi;325729]There's clearly more than one round. Just because SD wins overall doesn't mean that Cancun didn't win a round at least. Maybe it also explains Devyn's comment: "You just got your *** beat by the guy going after your Ex-girlfriend" CJ might have won a round and everyone got hyped and it went into round 3.[/QUOTE] Am I the only one that thinks with the way MTV edits these previews that Devyn may have said something along the lines of "and Zach really needs to win because imagine if you just got your *** beat by the guy going after your ex" or something along those lines...I just can't see him losing in a physical elimination even to CJ lol

[QUOTE=sWeRvE;325734]Am I the only one that thinks with the way MTV edits these previews that Devyn may have said something along the lines of "and Zach really needs to win because imagine if you just got your *** beat by the guy going after your ex" or something along those lines...I just can't see him losing in a physical elimination even to CJ lol[/QUOTE] Could be editing too. We'll just have to wait and see I guess, you know never know CJ might win a round.

[QUOTE=ViewRam90;325697]So funny how Derek loses all the time on elimination rounds he probably thought since he was in the main "alliance" he would get a free pass through the final...wrong![/QUOTE] If spoilers are correct, they have been physical eliminations where he's at a huge disadvantage. Lol at Frank possibly going in when it's against Derek.

[QUOTE=sWeRvE;325734]Am I the only one that thinks with the way MTV edits these previews that Devyn may have said something along the lines of "and Zach really needs to win because imagine if you just got your *** beat by the guy going after your ex" or something along those lines...I just can't see him losing in a physical elimination even to CJ lol[/QUOTE] I agree but a few times on twitter I saw zach say how much of a beast CJ is, so i think CJ could possibly win at least 1 of the rounds. It looked like Zachs hand was bloody too, anyone know what thats about???

[QUOTE=ViewRam90;325697]So funny how Derek loses all the time on elimination rounds he probably thought since he was in the main "alliance" he would get a free pass through the final...wrong![/QUOTE] I'm confused a why everyone is so hard on Derek. Sure he's not the BEST competitor there or the most entertaining but he's not holding his team back at all. I've actually been surprised by how strong he seems to be.

[QUOTE=andhoo;325781]Im confused a why everyone is so hard on Derek. Sure he's not the BEST competitor there or the most entertaining but he's not holding his team back at all. Ive actually been surprised by how strong he seems to be.[/QUOTE] I don't understand it either - perhaps the impression from his season as not the most athletic person or his performance on Cutthroat is still in a lot of people's mind, but I agree that he has performed decently up till now.

[QUOTE=OrangeStar;325782]I don't understand it either - perhaps the impression from his season as not the most athletic person or his performance on Cutthroat is still in a lot of people's mind, but I agree that he has performed decently up till now.[/QUOTE] Didn't used to wrestle Bronne in Cancun? And this week we saw him carry Jasmine up that hill. Yeah, not the biggest girl to carry up a hill, but he's pretty tiny as well, and it didn't hold him back. Even if Jasmine is just 90 pounds, that's still a big weight to carry, especially if those logs gave them trouble.

[QUOTE=JL81790;325658]So now we're at (in terms of the remaining mysteries of the season) [COLOR="Cyan"]Zach/Sam[/COLOR](?) beat [COLOR="DarkGreen"]CJ/Jasmine[/COLOR] in Physical ([B]The ? is for Sam[/B], we know Zach goes in for sure) [COLOR="Blue"]Robb/Marie[/COLOR] beat [COLOR="DarkRed"]Alton/Nany[/COLOR] in Physical/Strategy/Endurance [COLOR="DarkRed"]Dustin/Trishelle[/COLOR] beat [COLOR="Blue"]Robb/Marie[/COLOR] in Mental ? beats [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Derek/Jonna[/COLOR] in Physical/Strategy/Endurance (hopefully Endurance for the irony) Two years as a member and my first foray into colors is an amazing success. I'm going to GUESS that Robb and Marie win in a Physical game because I don't think Marie has the gas for strategy or that either of them are quicker than Alton and Nany for endurance. HOWEVER they included that little line about Marie never wanting to go into strategy a few episodes ago and they love their ironic foreshadowing. I think Marie could take Nany in Hall Brawl and Robb's size advantage might be helpful. Pure speculation.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that since Zach said that he would do physical he would choose Sam has his partner because he does not like Frank or Ashley right now. And Frank is gonna use the whole "Well you said you would do physical elimination rounds." So that will be his scapegoat.

[QUOTE=El Scorcho;325802]I'm pretty sure that since Zach said that he would do physical he would choose Sam has his partner because he does not like Frank or Ashley right now. And Frank is gonna use the whole "Well you said you would do physical elimination rounds." So that will be his scapegoat.[/QUOTE] I don't think he said that he didn't like Ashley. I'm wondering why Zach goes into the next elimination, I bet he doesn't volunteer, but why would the winning team choose him for physical over Frank? Also, JL8, pretty sure it is Frank and Ashley (or Sam) that go in against Derek/Jonna in a physical battle.

[QUOTE=Lola88;325811]I dont think he said that he didnt like Ashley. I'm wondering why Zach goes into the next elimination, I bet he doesnt volunteer, but why would the winning team choose him for physical over Frank? Also, JL8, pretty sure it is Frank and Ashley (or Sam) that go in against Derek/Jonna in a physical battle.[/QUOTE] My guess is that they would choose Zach over Frank because Sam will probably lose her matches and then they would hope she gets the tiebreaker round.

[QUOTE=Lola88;325811] I'm wondering why Zach goes into the next elimination, I bet he doesnt volunteer, but why would the winning team choose him for physical over Frank? [/QUOTE] Two options: A) San Diego could get last place because of Zach and thus he does volunteer. B) Vegas or Brooklyn win, and pit Cancun against SD or vice versa. Since physical is the last one left and SD just had an implosion, they see it as an opportunity to try to break up the cohesive Cancun team and leave the somewhat divided (when we last left them) SD team.

Cara Maria said on spreecast that Cohutta was called and asked to be a replacement for the Sydney team, which means it was a guy that broke the rules, and leads more to the theory that they got kicked off because Isaac brought drugs.

[QUOTE=gbp02;325834]Cara Maria said on spreecast that Cohutta was called and asked to be a replacement for the Sydney team, which means it was a guy that broke the rules[/QUOTE] I could have told you that.

[QUOTE=gbp02;325834]Cara Maria said on spreecast that Cohutta was called and asked to be a replacement for the Sydney team, which means it was a guy that broke the rules, and leads more to the theory that they got kicked off because Isaac brought drugs.[/QUOTE] This is interesting. So when Cohutta said no, they were out of options and had to send the entire team home? Wow, I really wish he could have done it.

[QUOTE=rwdenverfan;325836]This is interesting. So when Cohutta said no, they were out of options and had to send the entire team home? Wow, I really wish he could have done it.[/QUOTE] Right? I love KA, Dunbar, and Cohutta. That would've been a fun team, I'm just dying to see KA on a challenge again.

I am kind of surprised to see that Rob and Marie were the ones to eliminate Alton and Nany. Alton and Nany seem like they are stronger competitors then Rob and Marie, but Rob and Marie probably communicated better then those two and i feel like Rob had more motivation to not let Marie down then Alton had.

I feel Trishelle may refuse to go in. Nany reminds me of Jodi in that if you get her angry or upset, she's very easy to fluster. (remember Inferno 2 when that word was used about 400 times in an episode?) And if they lose in strategy, then Alton isn't the most known man to take Nany's advice on what to do, and his decisions thus far have left many confused.

[QUOTE=rwdenverfan;325836]This is interesting. So when Cohutta said no, they were out of options and had to send the entire team home? Wow, I really wish he could have done it.[/QUOTE] Yeah, they should have kept the Sydney team there. They screwed up in two ways: Dunbar has done too many challenges and nobody likes him, so they should have originally cast Cohutta and then brought Dunbar in (because he would drop his life at a moment's notice to be on tv) to replace Isaac. The other thing they could have done is have Nehemiah come in on team Austin, because he was screened and approved of as a replacement, and then move Wes to Team Sydney because he had *** with Kellyanne. Both options would have kept Kellyanne there and these Fresh Meat rejects at their dumb college bar promos.

[QUOTE=gbp02;325895]Yeah, they should have kept the Sydney team there. They screwed up in two ways: Dunbar has done too many challenges and nobody likes him, so they should have originally cast Cohutta and then brought Dunbar in (because he would drop his life at a moment's notice to be on tv) to replace Isaac. The other thing they could have done is have Nehemiah come in on team Austin, because he was screened and approved of as a replacement, and then move Wes to Team Sydney because he had *** with Kellyanne. Both options would have kept Kellyanne there and these Fresh Meat rejects at their dumb college bar promos.[/QUOTE] If I'm not mistaken, Cohutta and Isaac own a bar together and if I had to guess, one of the two had to be home to run it.