[QUOTE=Nightwolf;272955]Where exactly did she admit this?[/QUOTE]
In her vevmo interview. I'm pretty sure there was also a video of Theresa saying something like that also which was why she was so angry.
[QUOTE=jhl182;272957]In her vevmo interview. I'm pretty sure there was also a video of Theresa saying something like that also which was why she was so angry.[/QUOTE]
Tori would have won either way, she is one of the best girls, and Theresa is weak competitor se never won an elimination round
The elimination rounds that i would love to see are:
Landon Vs CT
CT VS Darrell
Landon VS Darrell
Alton Vs CT
Landon VS Alton
Darrell VS Alton
Evelyn VS Laurel
Rachel VS Laurel
Rachel VS Evelyn
Aneesa VS Rachel
[QUOTE=josePortugal;273007]Tori would have won either way, she is one of the best girls, and Theresa is weak competitor[B] she never won an elimination round
[/B][/QUOTE]
This is an incredibly weak argument considering that Theresa has only been in three eliminations, two of which were pair challenges and Tina wanted Tori to win the other. Tori absolutely would not have won either way because Theresa has at least 15 lbs on her and Tina probably has even more. I don't think that Tori could have dragged Tina so much as an inch toward her barrel without Tina helping her along. I don't even like Theresa, but I had to respond to your post anyway because it was so ridiculous.
[QUOTE=lilabennet;273016]This is an incredibly weak argument considering that Theresa has only been in three eliminations, two of which were pair challenges and Tina wanted Tori to win the other. Tori absolutely would not have won either way because Theresa has at least 15 lbs on her and Tina probably has even more. I don't think that Tori could have dragged Tina so much as an inch toward her barrel without Tina helping her along. I don't even like Theresa, but I had to respond to your post anyway because it was so ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Theresa's never proven anything to me, even without eliminations. Even though Theresa's bigger, she's also a total moron and not that great at the game. Tina also never said that she helped Tori move along, she said that Theresa was bigger so she played dirtier with her since she probably would put up more of a fight. After that, Tina had to be gassed.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;273017][B]Theresa's never proven anything to me,[/B] even without eliminations. Even though Theresa's bigger, she's also a total moron and not that great at the game. Tina also never said that she helped Tori move along, she said that Theresa was bigger so she played dirtier with her since she probably would put up more of a fight. After that, Tina had to be gassed.[/QUOTE]
She seems to have proven something to her cast members since quite a few of them have spoken positively about her abilities.
[QUOTE=v123;273018]She seems to have proven something to her cast members since quite a few of them have spoken positively about her abilities.[/QUOTE]
You mean Derrick? He's the only one I've seen compliment her really. I remember Johnny said in the high wire mission from Cutthroat that he was essentially dragging a retard across a tight rope.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;273019]You mean Derrick? He's the only one I've seen compliment her really. I remember Johnny said in the high wire mission from Cutthroat that he was essentially dragging a retard across a tight rope.[/QUOTE]
Abram, Cara Maria, Laurel and TJ. Johnny wanted to keep Theresa around for the finals on Cut Throat. She and Camila were looked at as appreciable threats on Rivals. That should be an indication of how weak she is
[QUOTE=v123;273020]Abram, Cara Maria, Laurel and TJ. Johnny wanted to keep Theresa around for the finals on Cut Throat. She and Camila were looked at as appreciable threats on Rivals. That should be an indication of how weak she is[/QUOTE]
Well you gotta keep in mind that I'm very opinionated into who I say is good and who is bad in which someone has to actually do something to prove to me that they're good. Just look at Tyler. No one thought he was good until Cutthroat and it was apparent that he probably was capable of doing well the first two times. So until Theresa actually does anything remarkable, I'm not gonna give her any real props. The same goes for people like Camila, Brandon, Mandi, hell I'm still waiting for Jenn to do something bigger.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;273017]Theresa's never proven anything to me, even without eliminations. Even though Theresa's bigger, she's also a total moron and not that great at the game. Tina also never said that she helped Tori move along, she said that Theresa was bigger so she played dirtier with her since she probably would put up more of a fight. After that, Tina had to be gassed.[/QUOTE]
ELimination wise she has YET to prove anything. But in the challenges she has done well, shes only won 2, but in FM2 her and Ryan had good showings throughout, but obviously shes paired with Ryan well Laurel and Carley had top flite competitors. The blue team held her in relative high regard, making Emily go before her. SHe lost to Laurel on RIvals, but in the three challenges they did, her and Camilla got second twice, and Paula and the others acknowledged she and Camila were a strong pair. Shes tall, and played D1 baseketball(so their is athleticism). I'd say she has potential to win in the future. Shes only done 3 challenges maybe shell be like Dunbar and win an elimination, and the challenge overall in her fourth appearance.
But your right Tori would of won either way, Tori's pretty kick ***.
Also to the person who mentioned Tori beating Veronica before, was that on her RR season? I only watched bits and pieces of RR and none of Viewers Revenge, but thats pretty impressive.
[QUOTE=RWRRULES;273507]Also to the person who mentioned Tori beating Veronica before, was that on her RR season? I only watched bits and pieces of RR and none of Viewers Revenge, but thats pretty impressive.[/QUOTE]
She beat Veronica in the first face off on VR and then on the 2nd one after Veronica was voted in to face her.
[QUOTE=Nightwolf;273508]She beat Veronica in the first face off on VR and then on the 2nd one after Veronica was voted in to face her.[/QUOTE]
Cool, never saw Viewers Revenge so I did not know that.
[QUOTE=cryssy19;274042]Gonna reply to this in the Generic thread[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Calinks;274038]Interesting. I have wonder myself why the fun was taken away from the challengers and now I have a name to put to that.
As far as my opinion goes, I definitely believe in it. I think there is a real distinction between veterans and rookies and probably seven times out of ten the vets will come out on top baring a fluke. They are far better prepared to play the game at hand. I'm really not interested in seeing one team steam roll another into oblivion.
The only chance the rookies have would be if they had monster competitors but that is rarely found on a rookie team.[/QUOTE]
I think you have a point somewhat, but only because there aren't Road Rulers anymore. They do challenge-like things all the time, so by the time Gauntlet 2 came around, many Rookies were Road Rulers and did amazing, but even those who were Real Worlders (Alton) did well also.
SO I do think it's all about balance too. They can get athletic Real World-ers who can do well. And there are champions who aren't so good, aka Johanna.
Not saying I want a Ruins btw, I disliked it. Just saying it could have been fair instead of a massacre. I did like Rookies vs Vets, but it's overdone.
[QUOTE=RWRRULES;273513]Cool, never saw Viewers Revenge so I did not know that.[/QUOTE]
I actually watched the last 2 episodes of RR:VR on MTV.com yesterday if you're interested.
In light of The Challenges being renewed I want to post about what I think BMP/MTV should do for the Next Challenge.
Format-I want either a Battle of the Seasons, Duel, Cutthroat, or a New format. I would also go for another Ruins ONLY if the teams are balanced and JEK aren't there and doesn't have the depressing miserable feel of the first season.
Cast-I want them to start casting more Rookies. I'm really getting tired of JEK, Wes, Eveyln, and Paula. Seriously I don't understand how they are still running things yet there have been several seasons of The Real World and a New Batch of Fresh Meat(Which Surprisingly I don't hate as much as the 1st crew) Ideally I would want a challenge consisting of people From Hollywood/Brooklyn/Cancun/DC New Orleans 2/Las Vegas 2/San Diego 2, Throw in a few Road Rulers, Some Old-schoolers, and a couple of 2nd Generation Fresh Meat.
Missions-TONE DOWN AND DIVERSIFY! seriously these challenges are too Survivor/Fear Factor-esqe And these Finals are way too extreme as well. It's like you have to be a damn olympic athlete to be able to compete on these things. Remember back in the days when they would fly in Airplanes? Play Musical Water Tubes? Rub on Ice so they can get the Cell phone stuck in the middle of it? Bring those back. Because I think that there would be diffrent people winning if the challenges were far less Xtreme. Oh and ENOUGH WITH THE WATER AND HEIGHTS!
Atmophere-Honestly these challenges have been so Joyless and seem prison like for a while now. They need to make these things more Vacation like and have them go out more. The earlier challenges seemed more like a vacation and people seemed to have fun despite the game/drama. Nowadays these challenges seem more like a Prison and there doesn't seem to be much fun in the show now. Make these challenges more like a fun vacation.
Editing-I don't like the fact that they focus on a select few people and everybody Else got ignored until they got the boot I mean look at Rivals JEK, Wes and CT got the most airtime(there were others that got screen time but not as much as them) but while almost everyone else was Ignored. I mean where was Brandon? Where was Ty? Where was Leroy? Where was Camilla? Theresa? None of them got any real airtime. Spread out the Airtime more. There's no need to show JEK every 5 seconds.
And with that..I'm done.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;274069]What? Did I do something wrong?[/QUOTE]
No, but I'm sure you're not done commenting on the cast, or the missions, or the format, or the atmosphere or the editing. You'll have something else to say at some point, and you know it!
I'd hate to hold you to your "I'm done" statement and delete any of your posts that have to deal with any of those points ;)
[QUOTE=molds13;274070]No, but I'm sure you're not done commenting on the cast, or the missions, or the format, or the atmosphere or the editing. You'll have something else to say at some point, and you know it!
I'd hate to hold you to your "I'm done" statement and delete any of your posts that have to deal with any of those points ;)[/QUOTE]
Oh Ok well in that case I'm NOT done.
I think the two things I would say I want for newer challenges is fresher faces, more rookies from the recent RW seasons (Hollywood-LV2, or SD2 even though I have yet to see them in action).
I also agree about the less extreme missions, but I think that's just not going to happen. The challenges are not the same show they used to be, and we might as well accept it.
I also agree about the atmosphere being less fun and carefree as it used to be, but that is mostly because of the casts anyway. The people from the newer seasons are just a different breed than those from the older seasons, so I'm not too sure there is much they can really do as far as "atmosphere" goes, except maybe get rid of some of those crazy rules they were enforcing on the cast during Cutthroat (and I assume a few other recent challenges?)
Edit: Wow I say "I also agree" a lot...
As far as challenges, anything but the island really, and no rivals 2 because they won't be able to get all the old school ones we want to see, and most of the ones this season were a stretch, as good as a season it was. Guy/Girl rivals would be the only format for a rivals 2 I would like, and that would be so drama filled and no one probably would enjoy that as far as the cast. If they do that, they still run the risk of the huge alliance being partnered based on pairings and automaticaly formed which makes it not as good. Only if they bring back the same people that is.
Also, a new concept would be cool, rivals was great and brought great buzz. I think they have enough quality challengers at this point to do champions vs challenges, the problem before was they didn't have a good cast of challengers. With Leroy, Brandon, CT, Adam, Mike, Theresa, Camila, that alone is a good cast of challengers.
[QUOTE=mph922;274074]I think the two things I would say I want for newer challenges is fresher faces, more rookies from the recent RW seasons (Hollywood-LV2, or SD2 even though I have yet to see them in action).
I also agree about the less extreme missions, but I think that's just not going to happen. The challenges are not the same show they used to be, and we might as well accept it.
I also agree about the atmosphere being less fun and carefree as it used to be, but that is mostly because of the casts anyway. The people from the newer seasons are just a different breed than those from the older seasons, so I'm not too sure there is much they can really do as far as "atmosphere" goes, except maybe get rid of some of those crazy rules they were enforcing on the cast during Cutthroat (and I assume a few other recent challenges?)
Edit: Wow I say "I also agree" a lot...[/QUOTE]
Honestly About the Atmosphere thing. I think it can be helped. I mean look at all the **** they should've shown specials they do after every season. Why don't they just put some of those scenes in the actual espisodes? I think the shows would be more enjoyable to watch if they did that.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;274092]Honestly About the Atmosphere thing. I think it can be helped. I mean look at all the **** they should've shown specials they do after every season. Why don't they just put some of those scenes in the actual espisodes? I think the shows would be more enjoyable to watch if they did that.[/QUOTE]
It'd be better if they showed less drunk fights and throw in some more gag-reel type scenes--people walking into things, laughing, etc.
I heard somewhere that Dunbar did not receive his cash prize from Cutthroat because of his participation in ****, which I guess in the contract that you sign MTV, BM, and the Challenge is against the rules, and that he won't do another challenge. Is that true?
Round 'Em Up (BOTS, rounding up cattle on horseback)
Human Aquarium (BotSexes)
Red Barron (Gauntlet 1)
Junk Boat (BotSexes 2)
High Noon (BotSexes 2, paintball quickdraw)
Time To Ride (Inferno 2)
Balancing Act (Gauntlet 2, big platform teeter-totter thing)
The Pit (Gauntlet 2, get your team out of the pit using the equipment provided)
Sunken Treasure (Duel 1)
Rope Burn (Inferno 3)
Hand Car (Inferno 3)
Ball Buster (The Island)
Bridge It (The Island)
Luging My Mind (Duel 2)
Rotary Club (Ruins, roll downhill in a tractor tire)
Airheads (FM2, water slide with puzzle)
Bottleneck Stampede (Cutthroat)
Skyhook (Cutthroat)
Riot Act (Cutthroat)
Car Crusher (Rivals)
There were other ones where the competitors made the game more interesting than it would ordinarily have been (Julie vs. Veronica on Grope the Rope, for instance), but those are my picks for best games.
I think it would be cool if they did a challenge entirely of rookies. It would eliminated a lot of things: seeing the same people (win) again, the same alliances that we say every season, etc. I think that's partially why Survivor in its prime did so successful. I think that there's no way in hell Survivor would have made it to 20 seasons if they reused people season after season.
Format: 24 rookies (12 male & 12 female), 3 teams of 8
In each round there is a mission. The winning team nominates any 2 people of the losing team for elimination, and all of the remaining competitors vote off one person.
The twist: The team that lost a player can choose any player on either other team to join their team. (This ensures that the teams are always going to balanced in terms of strength, because the team that loses will always gain a strong competitor)
[QUOTE=rsox813;274713]
Format: 24 rookies (12 male & 12 female), 3 teams of 8
In each round there is a mission. The winning team nominates any 2 people of the losing team for elimination, and all of the remaining competitors [B]vote off one person[/B].
The twist: The team that lost a player can choose any player on either other team to join their team. (This ensures that the teams are always going to balanced in terms of strength, because the team that loses will always gain a strong competitor)[/QUOTE]
I HATE the idea of voting off players without letting them fight for their chance to stay in an elimination round. I always thought that was one of the best things that set The Challenge apart from other competitive reality shows.
I saw some people wondering if people were getting called up for the next challenge. They could be but I would guess calls wont go out for another few weeks or so. I talked to Brandon on his show for about 15 minutes and he wasn't even certain there was going to be another show yet. He definitely hasn't heard about anybody getting a call so I don't know when the new show will start filming.
I was wondering if those of you who have some sort of "inside" info or just basic knowledge can answer whether the following RW/RR/FM alumni have stated/hinted/showed interest they will/will not/maybe do a challenge again or for the first time? Please & Thank You.
[B]Ayiiia[/B]- She was ok on Cutthroat, I kind of want to see her compete in another one.
[B]Emily (DC)[/B]- She's strong and can actually match up to Laurel/Ev.
[B]Diem[/B]- She's just awesome.
[B]Kelly Anne[/B] ^
[B]Robin[/B] She's been sent home first and second in her last 2 challenges. I want to see her compete more.
[B]Jemmey[/B] I loved her in RW:NOLA. Hopefully she's showed interest.
[B]Jeff and Noor (FM2)[/B]
[B]Landon[/B] An honest player.
Thank You.
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