The Challenge Series: RW/RR (Generic Thread)

[QUOTE=Youssarian;232104]I'm sorry to disappoint you all, but according to my tedious calculations, it is now [u][b]FACT[/u][/b] that [B]Nick Brown is indeed the best [/B][B]challenge competitor in the history of the Challenges.[/B][/QUOTE] No way !! That prestigious award goes to Ty Ruff... his performance on Cutthroat was out of this world !

[QUOTE=Superboy;232111]But your opinion is illogical, because those guys, and you know this, are bottom competitors.[/QUOTE] Who are you to tell anyone that their opinion is "illogical"?

[QUOTE]LOL @ you downplaying it. It's more like, He DESTROYED 3 scrubs, excelled in most missions, and lead his team to victory.[/QUOTE] He just happened to be on a team with superior chemistry. His elimination round victories aren't impressive enough because again, he beat bottom competitors. Not to mention he was one dimensional as a competitor, he only excelled in physical missions. Competitors like Theo V and Dan(RR5) were better overall, because not only were they good in physical missions, but also skill in other areas and they showed it(BOTS 2 is a prime example). [QUOTE=salt&vinegar;232121]Who are you to tell anyone that their opinion is "illogical"?[/QUOTE] Its not an opinion, when there are facts to back up that your rankings are illogical due to what the competitor has shown on their challenges. Again for example.... Abram should be ranked higher than Brad.....that is logical because he defeated him twice head to head.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;232121]Who are you to tell anyone that their opinion is "illogical"?[/QUOTE] He is SUUUPERRRRR BOOYYYYY!!!!!!!!!! duh.

[QUOTE=Superboy;232123] Its not an opinion, when there are facts to back up that your rankings are illogical due to what the competitor as shown on their challenges. Again for example.... Abram should be ranked higher than Brad.....that is logical because he defeated him twice head to head.[/QUOTE] _________________ is better than __________________ sounds like an opinion to me. However, that is just my opinion ;)

People forget about James (maximum velocity). Great competitor, won 2 missions on bots1 and always was on top of the missions though Dan DQed so his score lowered.

Theo V dominated botseasons and was on top of the scoreboard I think throughout the entire challenge. He did very well on fresh meat too with Chanda.

[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;232127]_________________ is better than __________________ sounds like an opinion to me. However, that is just my opinion ;)[/QUOTE] So [B]CT>Nick [/B]all time is an opinion? Use common sense.....PLEASE! [QUOTE] People forget about James (maximum velocity). Great competitor, won 2 missions on bots1 and always was on top of the missions though Dan DQed so his score lowered [/QUOTE] Yes, he performed well on the Extreme Challenge too. But he was a good competitor(in the middle), not great. He is a top 20 competitor all time, better than Eric(RW1), Syrus, MJ, Dunbar, Tyler, Johnny, and the likes of those. Christian(RR2, Timmy's partner in crime) was also a top competitor that no one mentions even in their top 25 list, because most didn't see the Extreme Challenge where he outperformed Jamie(RW9) in pretty much every mission. He was actually the best competitor on that challenge, HIGHLY skilled competitor(just like Dan(RR5). [QUOTE=jhl182;232130]Theo V dominated botseasons and was on top of the scoreboard I think throughout the entire challenge. He did very well on fresh meat too with Chanda.[/QUOTE] Yes, and Kenny suggested him to Derrick on the Podcast(RWvsRRvsFM) saying Theo was "really good". Dan(RR5) was also a great competitor and was on par with Theo, both whom outperformed eachother equally on the Battle of the Seasons, and made it to the end of the BOTS 2 playing "flawlessly" as Eric(RW1) stated.

Superboy, your list or rankings, are they all time or if these people walked onto a challenge right now? Because overall, I agree Theo would be up there but I don't know if he were to walk on a challenge right now. It's like saying Chuck Liddell would still be Top 10 light heavy weight fighter currently when he obviously isn't. Of all time, okay, but not anymore.

Here's my list: 1. Everyone shut up 2. Shut up again in case nobody heard me 3. The mods have gone out of their way to dissuade people from the pointless who is better than who arguments, because everyone has their opinion and it's impossible to be subjective about something like that. Nobody will ever agree on who is the best and who belongs in the top 10. 4. Can we talk about something else besides lists for the 643827th time? Like...oh I don't know...we're on a Challenge break. Someone think of something. Somebody right now tell me what mission was better than the mission on the first Inferno where they had to destroy the hotel room like rock stars. Or Sidekick Showdown from Battle of the Seasons, which was the funniest Challenge mission ever. And in other news, The Miz has been acting like a total *** on WWE over the last couple months, and it's gotten to the point to where I hope Randy Orton takes his title belt away, because our beloved Mike (who used to be one of my favorite RW/RR people) has inflated his head to the size of a blimp. These WWE storylines are priming him for an epic downfall, given how much trash he's been talking on Raw lately.

[QUOTE=AJHill;232174]Here's my list: 1. Everyone shut up 2. Shut up again in case nobody heard me 3. The mods have gone out of their way to dissuade people from the pointless who is better than who arguments, because everyone has their opinion and it's impossible to be subjective about something like that. Nobody will ever agree on who is the best and who belongs in the top 10. 4. Can we talk about something else besides lists for the 643827th time? Like...oh I don't know...we're on a Challenge break. Someone think of something. Somebody right now tell me what mission was better than the mission on the first Inferno where they had to destroy the hotel room like rock stars. Or Sidekick Showdown from Battle of the Seasons, which was the funniest Challenge mission ever. And in other news, The Miz has been acting like a total *** on WWE over the last couple months, and it's gotten to the point to where I hope Randy Orton takes his title belt away, because our beloved Mike (who used to be one of my favorite RW/RR people) has inflated his head to the size of a blimp. These WWE storylines are priming him for an epic downfall, given how much trash he's been talking on Raw lately.[/QUOTE] Couldn't have said it better

[QUOTE=faceless;232163]Superboy, your list or rankings, are they all time or if these people walked onto a challenge right now? Because overall, I agree Theo would be up there but I don't know if he were to walk on a challenge right now. It's like saying Chuck Liddell would still be Top 10 light heavy weight fighter currently when he obviously isn't. Of all time, okay, but not anymore.[/QUOTE] My list is all time.

[QUOTE=Superboy;232149]So [B]CT>Nick [/B]all time is an opinion? Use common sense.....PLEASE![/QUOTE] tact    [takt] –noun 1. a keen sense of what to say or do to avoid giving offense; skill in dealing with difficult or delicate situations. 2. a keen sense of what is appropriate, tasteful, or aesthetically pleasing [url=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tact]Tact | Define Tact at Dictionary.com[/url] :)

Well apparently once a month or two, Superboy has to come on here and give us his expert opinion, despite the fact that nobody gives half a rat's *** about it. Can I say one thing here? Superboy, ENOUGH ABOUT RR5 DAN. Stop raving about him as one of the best ever. Nice guy, decent competitor, very well liked by the rest of the cast. I liked watching him because he seemed like a normal guy, which is hard to come by on these shows. However, he hasn't appeared on a Challenge since BOTS2, so he's pretty irrelevant. Let it go already with him. Stop bringing him up in all your arguments since there's no way you can compare others to him seeing as to how CT, Landon, Darrell, Evan, etc, etc. never competed against him.

[QUOTE=AJHill;232183]Well apparently once a month or two, Superboy has to come on here and give us his expert opinion, despite the fact that nobody gives half a rat's *** about it. Can I say one thing here? Superboy, ENOUGH ABOUT RR5 DAN. Stop raving about him as one of the best ever. Nice guy, decent competitor, very well liked by the rest of the cast. I liked watching him because he seemed like a normal guy, which is hard to come by on these shows. However, he hasn't appeared on a Challenge since BOTS2, so he's pretty irrelevant. Let it go already with him. Stop bringing him up in all your arguments since there's no way you can compare others to him seeing as to how CT, Landon, Darrell, Evan, etc, etc. never competed against him.[/QUOTE] Decent competitor? Dan was a top competitor, and was better overall than most. He was the most complete Road Rules competitor, the All Star Road Ruler(as stated on his BOTS 2 bio on MTV.com). All time, he is top 10. The thing is, you guys don't know about the older challenges, and haven't analyzed the competition to see who outperformed who on all the challenges. I have, and that is why my list is the most accurate. I just wish there was someone else who has ALL the challenges going back to the first.

[QUOTE=AJHill;232174]Here's my list: 1. Everyone shut up 2. Shut up again in case nobody heard me 3. The mods have gone out of their way to dissuade people from the pointless who is better than who arguments, because everyone has their opinion and it's impossible to be subjective about something like that. Nobody will ever agree on who is the best and who belongs in the top 10. 4. Can we talk about something else besides lists for the 643827th time? Like...oh I don't know...we're on a Challenge break. Someone think of something. Somebody right now tell me what mission was better than the mission on the first Inferno where they had to destroy the hotel room like rock stars. Or Sidekick Showdown from Battle of the Seasons, which was the funniest Challenge mission ever. And in other news, The Miz has been acting like a total *** on WWE over the last couple months, and it's gotten to the point to where I hope Randy Orton takes his title belt away, because our beloved Mike (who used to be one of my favorite RW/RR people) has inflated his head to the size of a blimp. These WWE storylines are priming him for an epic downfall, given how much trash he's been talking on Raw lately.[/QUOTE]There has been no discussion going on here at all yesterday and earlier today, so when someone posted their list I responded to it to create discussion. The only reason I posted my list was because I was told to not argue the list and instead make my own.

The 1976 Dallas Cowboys were way better chess players than the 1982 New York Yankees. That said, if I were to do a Challenge, I would have a no speedo and ice in the same challenge clause in my contract because those were some of the silliest Challenges I have seen yet.

You know what is annoying when superboy says people underestimates Dan S. and Jamie M. You want to know why people underestimate them? because they have never truly proven themselves. Jamie was on 3 challenges, 2 of which were vote offs and one where he never got called in an elimination round! Do you think if he played tug of war with CT or Mike or Alton he would win? Didn't think so. Also Dan? What has Dan done that is so special? He too was just in vote off challenges. He made it to the end but he never proved himself. Both those players played in "vote off" games where most of the missions were farely easy for the guys!

[QUOTE=SeanDaniel;232192]The 1976 Dallas Cowboys were way better chess players than the 1982 New York Yankees. That said, if I were to do a Challenge, I would have a no speedo and ice in the same challenge clause in my contract because those were some of the silliest Challenges I have seen yet.[/QUOTE] Whoa whoa whoa...clearly, you are mistaken. The 85 Bears were way better than the 76 Cowboys. Super Bowl Shuffle.

[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;232194]You know what is annoying when superboy says people underestimates Dan S. and Jamie M. You want to know why people underestimate them? because they have never truly proven themselves. Jamie was on 3 challenges, 2 of which were vote offs and one where he never got called in an elimination round! Do you think if he played tug of war with CT or Mike or Alton he would win? Didn't think so. Also Dan? What has Dan done that is so special? He too was just in vote off challenges. He made it to the end but he never proved himself. Both those players played in "vote off" games where most of the missions were farely easy for the guys![/QUOTE] They never been in elimination rounds, but still proved to be top competitors. And what has Dan done that is so special?? On his Road Rules season he rocked during the [B]Lumberjack[/B] and [B]Hockey[/B] mission(being the best player), and he was named the MVP on the Road Rules All Star team that beat the Down Under cast in the [B]Aussie Rules football[/B] game. He outperformed Mike the Miz on the Battle of the Seasons and the BOTS 2, not to mention he made it to the final of the BOTS 2, which was one of the hardest challenges to make it to the end of because there was no score board. If you messed up in one mission, you were out(Abram and Miz got out early and they were better competitors than most of the guys there). That is why he was called the consummate Road Ruler, and the All Star Road Ruler on his bio at the BOTS 2 site on MTV.com. He was the most skilled/complete(as i explained above, he excelled at 3 different sports i have bolded) Road Rules competitor to compete on challenges, which makes him a top 10 all time.

[QUOTE=Superboy;232201]They never been in elimination rounds, but still proved to be top competitors. And what has Dan done that is so special?? On his Road Rules season [B]he rocked during the Lumberjack and Hockey mission(being the best player)[/B], and he was named the MVP on the Road Rules All Star team that beat the Down Under cast in the Aussie Rules football game. He outperformed Mike the Miz on the Battle of the Seasons and the BOTS 2, not to mention he made it to the final of the BOTS 2, which was one of the hardest challenges to make it to the end of because there was no score board. If you messed up in one mission, you were out(Abram and Miz got out early and they were better competitors than most of the guys there). That is why he was called the consummate Road Ruler, and the All Star Road Ruler on his bio at the BOTS 2 site on MTV.com[/QUOTE] He's from Minnesota...would you really expect any less?

[QUOTE=molds13;232195]Whoa whoa whoa...clearly, you are mistaken. The 85 Bears were way better than the 76 Cowboys. Super Bowl Shuffle.[/QUOTE] I have maintained for years that Ruben Studdard is Refrigerator Perry's clone so clearly time has proven that the 85 Bears had a ringer singer in for that one. That the Fridge so quickly disappeared right after that further proves the conspiracy and the cover up. Tried to get Oliver Stone to do a movie about it but he said some stories are way too big and treacherous even for him to tackle..... In the past Challenges people had to eat strange things. Perhaps to compete with Top Chef, the next Challenge should have them cook it themselves and then eat strange things.....

Kumbayah mi Lord.... Kumbayah....

[QUOTE=molds13;232202]He's from Minnesota...would you really expect any less?[/QUOTE] The point is he was(still is i'm sure) highly skilled, and overall, better than most. He did sit ups in his sleep, he could be seen working out on his challenges. He also had great mental strength, as shown on the Ice block mission on the Battle of the Seasons, which he and his partner Tara won. There is no doubt that his performances in the missions, would of translated into the elimination rounds if he'd gone in one.... he was truely a top competitor.

[QUOTE=Superboy;232211]The point is he was(still is i'm sure) highly skilled, and overall, better than most. He did sit ups in his sleep, he could be seen working out on his challenges. He also had great mental strength, as shown on the Ice block mission on the Battle of the Seasons, which he and his partner Tara won.[/QUOTE] 85 Chicago Bears > Dan Setzler.

[QUOTE=cryssy19;232207]Kumbayah mi Lord.... Kumbayah....[/QUOTE] I think it was on Road Rules when Abe caught, killed, cleaned, and ate a chicken. They should try something like that but with a pot-bellied pig for these Challenges. The PETA boycott alone would be worth a ratings point, not to mention how funny it would be when Shavon tried to hide the pig under her breasts, pretending to have popped her implants again just to try to save the pig.

[QUOTE=molds13;232215]85 Chicago Bears > Dan Setzler.[/QUOTE] Like always...... i state facts and logic and don't get a good challenge in return.

[QUOTE=Superboy;232231]Like always...... i state facts and logic and don't get a good challenge in return.[/QUOTE] That's because no one wants to have the conversation with you.

[QUOTE=Superboy;232111]But your opinion is illogical, because those guys, and you know this, are bottom competitors.[/QUOTE] Oh no! How will I sleep at night?

[QUOTE=Lamb Chop!!!;232238]Oh no! How will I sleep at night?[/QUOTE] You shouldn't. You should be forced to stay awake until you realize your faults. Do you want me to change your name to "Lame Chop!!!" now, or later?