[QUOTE=SPK713;230803]Abram, Cara, Brandon, Camilla, and Emily.
[B]Hell they could recast all of Cut Throat and I would love it.[/B][/QUOTE]
I agree, that was the best cast in a long time in my opinion.
I think the castmembers know some thing we dont. A lot of them have been tweeting lately criticizing other MTV shows. I guess it's just me bored, and finally noticing some of their tweets, but it could be possible that they know that the next challenge may be the last one.
It reminds me of the quote "don't bite the hand that feeds you"
[QUOTE=producer88;230807]I think the castmembers know some thing we dont. A lot of them have been tweeting lately criticizing other MTV shows. I guess it's just me bored, and finally noticing some of their tweets, but it could be possible that they know that the next challenge may be the last one.
It [B]reminds me of the quote "don't the bite the hand that feeds you"[/B][/QUOTE]
Can't say I've heard that [I]exact[/I] quote before.
I was just watching some of Fresh Meat again, and wow it's shocking to see how unnecessary and sometimes unfair the production team was in changing the rules of exile whenever they felt like it.
Ex. Exile 1 had no flags apparently. Exile 2 and on had flags. The last one said "your partner must be here to get the flag" which was NEVER the case in any other ones. That and of course the refs being able to change the definition of what a square is on command.
[QUOTE=producer88;230807]I think the castmembers know some thing we dont. A lot of them have been tweeting lately criticizing other MTV shows. I guess it's just me bored, and finally noticing some of their tweets, but it could be possible that they know that the next challenge may be the last one.
It reminds me of the quote "don't bite the hand that feeds you"[/QUOTE]
The only people i saw complain about JS were Cara Maria and Emilee, but they always go on these little rants so i didn't think anything of it.
Emily (DC) - cool and laid back + skills.
Laurel (FM2) - best overall current female.
Johnny (Key West) - best commentator besides Evan.
Ty (DC) - trolls people in real life = awesome.
CT (Paris) - the beast.
I would really like to see another Champions vs. Challengers theme. The cast on The Ruins was horrible just because it was so one-sided. I think this cast would be pretty competitive, although I don't know what they're up to, so I have no idea how or if at all realistic this cast would be (and yeah, I know Mike, Coral, and Robin are really unlikely to do another challenge as well as a few others, but I still think this would be a great cast)
[B]Champions:[/B]
Johnny, Kenny, Dunbar, Brad, Tyler, Dan (RW: Miami), Miz, Syrus
Tori, Susie, Ibis, Carley, Janelle, Veronica, Coral, Sarah (RR)
[B]Challengers: [/B]
CT, Davis, Brandon, Noor, Ace, Isaac, Shane, Pete
Tina, Paula, Emily, Laurel, Cara Maria, Kelly Anne, Aneesa, Robin
[QUOTE=rsox813;230845]I would really like to see another Champions vs. Challengers theme. The cast on The Ruins was horrible just because so one-sided. I think this cast would be pretty competitive, although I don't know what they're up to, so I have no idea how or if at all realistic this cast would be (and yeah, I know Mike, Coral, and Robin are really unlikely to do another challenge as well as a few others, but I still think this would be a great cast)
[B]Champions:[/B]
Johnny, Kenny, Dunbar, Brad, Tyler, Dan (RW: Miami), Miz, Syrus
Tori, Susie, Ibis, Carley, Janelle, Veronica, Coral, Sarah (RR)
[B]Challengers: [/B]
CT, Davis, Brandon, Noor, Ace, Isaac, Shane, Pete
Tina, Paula, Emily, Laurel, Cara Maria, Kelly Anne, Aneesa, Robin[/QUOTE]
I was thinking of that like a week ago, and how stacked the Challenger girls could potentially be.
[QUOTE=rsox813;230845]I would really like to see another Champions vs. Challengers theme. The cast on The Ruins was horrible just because it was so one-sided. I think this cast would be pretty competitive, although I don't know what they're up to, so I have no idea how or if at all realistic this cast would be (and yeah, I know Mike, Coral, and Robin are really unlikely to do another challenge as well as a few others, but I still think this would be a great cast)
[B]Champions:[/B]
Johnny, Kenny, Dunbar, Brad, Tyler, Dan (RW: Miami), Miz, Syrus
Tori, Susie, Ibis, Carley, Janelle, Veronica, Coral, Sarah (RR)
[B]Challengers: [/B]
CT, Davis, Brandon, Noor, Ace, Isaac, Shane, Pete
Tina, Paula, Emily, Laurel, Cara Maria, Kelly Anne, Aneesa, Robin[/QUOTE]
Wow, champions look like punks, it seems you took most of their normal, weaker winners and placed them here. What about Abe, Evan, Wes, Darell. Come on, don't be unfair :P
[QUOTE=AJHill;230846]I was thinking of that like a week ago, and how stacked the Challenger girls could potentially be.[/QUOTE]
True..... I never realized before, but challengers now have some strong females. Cpould have also included Sarah. However, again, there could have been stronger Champion females.... What about Rachel from RR, Ev (FM). Come on.... Ibis and Carley? I thought the challengers girls were good, guys could use a little revision, Ace is fun for challengers (and ratings), but Isaac? ha! The Champion team seems..... a bit too weak and at a disadvantage.
Dunbar? Dan... eh... Syrus? I think not.
[QUOTE=cryssy19;230847]Wow, champions look like punks, it seems you took most of their normal, weaker winners and placed them here. [B]What about Abe, Evan, Wes, [/B][B]Darell.[/B] Come on, don't be unfair :P
True..... I never realized before, but challengers now have some strong females. Cpould have also included Sarah. However, again, there could have been stronger Champion females.... What about Rachel from RR, Ev (FM). Come on.... Ibis and Carley? I thought the challengers girls were good, guys could use a little revision, Ace is fun for challengers (and ratings), but Isaac? ha! The Champion team seems..... a bit too weak and at a disadvantage.
Dunbar? Dan... eh... Syrus? I think not.[/QUOTE]
Also Alton, Landon, Derrick, Mark, Frank, ect. There are so many great champions that I just can't see any Challengers team ever beating a Champions team unless they put some of the weaker Champions on the Challenge or the Final Challenge favors the team with less people (More than likely the Challengers).
[QUOTE=Adrian!!!!!!;230850]Also Alton, Landon, Derrick, Mark, Frank, ect. There are so many great champions that I just can't see any Challengers team ever beating a Champions team unless they put some of the weaker Champions on the Challenge or the Final Challenge favors the team with less people (More than likely the Challengers).[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what I had in mind when I made the list. I wasn't picking Carley and whomever thinking that they were the best competitors ever. The goal was to make the teams as fair as I could, not to pick the best for each group. If you took the best 16 champions, it would be extremely hard to pick 16 challengers that would even stand a chance against them.
In fantasy, Christian(RR2), Antoine, Hollywick, James, Emily(RR2), Ellen, and Shane were really good competitors that would stack a challengers team with CT and etc....but they're all past their primes i'm sure.
[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;230854]I'm tired of lopsided challenges, it makes the entire season so predictable. They should just do a draft every time like they did on Cutthroat.[/QUOTE]
Agree, lopsided challenges are terrible. Although I think they got lucky that the team selection was so even during the Cutthroat draft, because there was better selection choices throughout.
[QUOTE=rsox813;230845]I would really like to see another Champions vs. Challengers theme. The cast on The Ruins was horrible just because it was so one-sided. I think this cast would be pretty competitive, although I don't know what they're up to, so I have no idea how or if at all realistic this cast would be (and yeah, I know Mike, Coral, and Robin are really unlikely to do another challenge as well as a few others, but I still think this would be a great cast)
[B]Champions:[/B]
Johnny, Kenny, Dunbar, Brad, Tyler, Dan (RW: Miami), Miz, Syrus
Tori, Susie, Ibis, Carley, Janelle, Veronica, Coral, Sarah (RR)
[B]Challengers: [/B]
CT, Davis, Brandon, Noor, Ace, Isaac, Shane, Pete
Tina, Paula, Emily, Laurel, Cara Maria, Kelly Anne, Aneesa, Robin[/QUOTE]
I really like this cast, except just a few changed since some people have stopped. Replace Dan and Miz with people like Nehemiah and Wes. Sarah from RR and Coral with Ev and Susie. Then for the Challengers replace Shane with CJ (Cancun) or Mike (DC). And Robin with Jemmye, Sarah, or Kim.
[QUOTE=rwdenverfan;230870]I really like this cast, except just a few changed since some people have stopped. Replace Dan and Miz with people like Nehemiah and Wes. Sarah from RR and Coral with Ev and [B]Susie[/B]. Then for the Challengers replace Shane with CJ (Cancun) or Mike (DC). And Robin with Jemmye, Sarah, or Kim.[/QUOTE]
Is there another Susie that I don't know about?
[QUOTE=JEK & Wes;230854]I'm tired of lopsided challenges, it makes the entire season so predictable. They should just do a draft every time like they did on Cutthroat.[/QUOTE]
See I thought the Ruins format was generally lopsided. There are reasons why the challengers didn't/does not win (usually) and reasons why the champions did (and some continually to do).
Now if we're talking about a Cutthroat format with FM vs RR vs RW (as was spoken about, and an idea to which I'm really warming up to), I think they can definitely get a fair cast.
QUESTION- Can anyone remember what year the first challenge came out? I know I can find it on Wiki probably, but why go there when I can get the first-hand info and all the details surrounding it here? :P
[QUOTE=cryssy19;230891]See I thought the Ruins format was generally lopsided. There are reasons why the challengers didn't/does not win (usually) and reasons why the champions did (and some continually to do).
Now if we're talking about a Cutthroat format with FM vs RR vs RW (as was spoken about, and an idea to which I'm really warming up to), I think they can definitely get a fair cast.
QUESTION- [B]Can anyone remember what year the first challenge came out? I know I can find it on Wiki probably, but why go there when I can get the first-hand info and all the details surrounding it here?[/B] :P[/QUOTE]
1998...what other details were you looking for regarding the year? lol Ginger left the Spice Girls that year, if that's a detail you're interested in...
[QUOTE=Morris1721;230893]1998...what other details were you looking for regarding the year? lol Ginger left the Spice Girls that year, if that's a detail you're interested in...[/QUOTE]
Hahahahahahahhaha. Well I was just a tender 8, so enlighten me, was it a huge success? (Was it battle of the Seasons?) Was it great?
[QUOTE=cryssy19;230894]Hahahahahahahhaha. Well I was just a tender 8, so enlighten me, was it a huge success? (Was it battle of the Seasons?) Was it great?[/QUOTE]
It wasn't Battle of the Seasons, it was just called "The Real World/Road Rules Challenge." I don't know how it did ratings-wise, but in my opinion it wasn't amazing. We've seen better, we've seen worse. There were no eliminations, it was 6 Real Worlders vs. 6 Roadies and they traveled around in RVs.
Of all of the non-elimination challenges, Challenge 2000 was my favorite. The cast was great, and there were so many memorable moments.
[QUOTE=cryssy19;230894]Hahahahahahahhaha. Well I was just a tender 8, so enlighten me, was it a huge success? (Was it battle of the Seasons?) Was it great?[/QUOTE]
Well, Battle of the Seasons wasn't for another four challenges later (it was sixth). The first "challenge" where RW went against RR was in 1999 (aka. RW/RR Challenge) where there were no eliminations, or losers really because everybody left with money.
The first season however, only had 5 (or 6?) people on it and it was really just Road Rules using Real Worlders.
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