The Challenge Series: RW/RR (Generic Thread)

[QUOTE=Entropy;213363]and from what townie has said [B]CT has no love lost for Johnny[/B].[/QUOTE] What? :p

He doesn't like Johnny..its a figure of speech.

[QUOTE]Derrick on the Gauntlet 2 faced Brad and Adam L. in the elimination round "Name That Coconut" which was a trivia game that also involved a lot of physical contact. It wasn't just like a puzzle elimination. They had to wrestle for the coconut they thought was right, also had to tackle each other from getting to the finish line to give TJ their answer. Good for Derrick, he watched the shows cause he outplayed them both. [B]Derrick not only out smarted them[/B], he out hustled them and he out strengthen them.[/QUOTE] Yes it was a physical game aswell, but the whole concept was to see who knows RW/RR history. And being educated and being intelligent are two different things. Derrick watched the shows more than Adam and Brad, that makes him more knowledgeable, not more intelligent. Brad and Adam(Katie said Adam didn't watch the shows much) didn't care to watch most of the shows clearly. And how can Derrick "out strengthen" all those bigger guys, but gets destroyed by Timmy? I know Timmy was bigger, and that event favored heavier people, but you can't tell me that Derrick couldn't atleast put up a decent fight when he "out hustled" and "out strengthen" Adam, Ace, Syrus, and Brad, who were all bigger guys? I mean, Ruthie put up more of a fight against Beth(who's like 3 times her size) in that same event. [QUOTE]Bottom competitors..? Are you serious? Syrus, Brad, and Adam L. are considered top 25 in my list. (Even though Syrus would be very bottom 20's) Davis, Ace, and Tyler aren't considered horrible or anything.. they aren't quitters or players like Danny, Nick, or Alex. Derrick beat Davis, Syrus, and Ace in a physical competition who all outweight him. This shows how much of a competitor Derrick is, and if he isn't considered Top 10 in your list.. I'm not saying your wrong, but he is definitely on mine. Don't call him weak, cause he is no where near weak. Just look at Derrick's losses in an elimination round: 1. Timmy - considered a #3 on your list 2. Darrell - considered #9 on your list 3. Wes - considered #11on your list Easily.. the best losses a great competitor can have.[/QUOTE] I logically explained how his victories against Adam and Brad meant nothing, and Syrus competed, but he was still average at best. As for Ace, Tyler, and Davis....none of them ever did anything that stood out competition wise, they are all bottom tier competitors, period. I never called Derrick weak, he's just not as good when stacked against a hand full of other competitors. And Derrick didn't lose to Darrell, Derrick and Diem lost to Darrell and Aviv. [QUOTE]Wes won 5 exiles because him and his partner had 50 less amount of weight on their backs. There is a reason he lost his first exile on Fresh Meat II because he had the same exact weight as his opponent. Everybody in that exile outperformed him: Evelyn and even Luke and Mandi. He was struggling bad. Other than those 5 exiles he won, he beat Chet and Nick 1-on-1. Not good wins at all because one was on his debut and the other was a rookie. He lost to Cohutta that just upsets me. If your talking about Derrick's eliminations saying how bad they are, just look at Wes's and tell me what looks better. Beating Chet and Nick, losing to Cohutta or Beating Brad and Adam L., losing to Timmy. Even though Derrick loss to Wes in pole wrestle, that will be the only thing Wes will accomplish over Derrick in these challenges.[/QUOTE] It pains me to put Wes over Derrick, but he did beat him in a fairly even match, period. And you don't need to explain how Wes and Casey won the exiles, like I said, Wes just got lucky and found ways to win. And yes Wes wins against Nick and Chet are not impressive either......but he BEAT DERRICK! Final, Derrick is a great competitor, but again, there are other greats that were and are better. [QUOTE]I'm not trying to start an argument, I have nothing against Superbody and his list. All I was trying to do is make a statement saying Derrick is nowhere a weak competitor.. that is it. [B]I respect his list, just not his perspective towards Derrick being weak when he is better than Wes[/B].[/QUOTE] For the LAST TIME.......I never said Derrick is a weak competitor, but rather he is not as good as other great competitors for a few reasons. For example, Dirk Nowitzki is a great basketball player, but he's not top ten all time in the NBA.

Okay so I just have to get involved in this whole "list" debate! Heres my list: Number 1 competitor of all time!: Just watch the ******* show and have fun seeing who wins... Good list?

[QUOTE=Clarke;213348]For some strange reason, I feel like Jenn hates Johnny's guts. Intuition?[/QUOTE] Jenn gets along well with Johnny. No bad blood amongst them at all.

[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;213400]Jenn gets along well with Johnny. No bad blood amongst them at all.[/QUOTE] Recent picture of them filming a commercial in NYC via Johnny's twitter: [url=http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=7895][img]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/12154cb5d161e5543.jpg[/img][/url]

At least Johnny cut his hair.

Oh god, Johnny actually bought one of those Power Balance wrist bands.

I have one too, is there a problem?

Well I think they're a total hoax, but I'm not about to get into an argument over it. If you like them, by all means enjoy.

Oh I dont believe the stupid it gives me balance **** at all lol they just look funky and its different from the rubber bracelets like the Lance Armstrong ones.

What is a Power Balance wrist band? I honestly have no idea what it is.

[QUOTE=CrazyRealityGuy;213446]What is a Power Balance wrist band? I honestly have no idea what it is.[/QUOTE] [url=http://lmgtfy.com/?q=power+balance+wrist+band]Let me google that for you[/url]

Thank you molds. I was honestly too lazy to google it myself!

So the challenges only have one more season in there contract right after "Cutthroat"?

That question is answered in the Whats After Back to Vegas and Cutthroat thread.

[QUOTE=Morris1721;213424]At least Johnny cut his hair.[/QUOTE] Thank the good lord!

[QUOTE]4)Alton- [B]He was the best competitor on the Gauntlet 1[/B],[B] outpreforming the Miz(the Miz even said he thinks Alton is "the best in the Gauntlet").[/B] And he was once again strong on the Gauntlet 2. He is a better competitor than Landon( and Landon agrees, on Gauntlet 2, Landon stated that the number 1 person the rookies needed was Alton) as Landon is only a physical prowess competitor, and Alton is better in pure physical prowess. He is the second best Real World male competitor all time behind CT.[/QUOTE] Update-After rewatching the Gauntlet I discovered that Theo(RR) actually outperformed Alton(6 to 3) in missions, and he and Miz were even 4 to 4 in missions. I assumed that because Alton won more lifesavers he was the best competitor, but it doesn't always turn out that way. In this case, this ranks Theo and Dan(RR5) over Alton as they were more rounded competitors, and Alton and the Miz are tied. Alton only did good in missions that involved climbing or athleticism, not to mention he was luckluster on the Inferno 3.

Can anyone rank me this girls from best to worst with description? Kendal Sheppard Christena Pyle Holly Shand Holly Brentson Roni Martin Ellen Cho Also does anybody wonder if they will have a top 50 special of best challengers of all time or something like that? Cause It will be an awesome idea, who agrees?

Please no more lists or ranks..it just causes pointless drama.

[QUOTE=RealityToast;214126]Can anyone rank me this girls from best to worst with description? Kendal Sheppard Christena Pyle Holly Shand Holly Brentson Roni Martin Ellen Cho Also does anybody wonder if they will have a top 50 special of best challengers of all time or something like that? Cause It will be an awesome idea, who agrees?[/QUOTE] While I presonally refuse to do anymore rankings involving castmember's performances, I do agree that a top competitor list would be fun to see, but only if the castmembers got to vote. I'd also lower it to maybe top 25 males and top 25 females. If the castmembers did get to vote, it's be very interesting.

[QUOTE=townie;206647]Here's the thing though... CT got disqualified for doing something HE DIDN'T DO! He did not rip the flag up! As I've explained before several times, there was a little metal ring that was looped through the hook holding the flag down and the string. It was used to shorten the slack in the string to keep the flag flat on the ground so that the wind wouldn't be blowing it all over or whatever. CT grabbed onto that hook, lost his balance a bit, and the ring busted and went flying into the air. After that, he regained his composure and unclipped the flag from the ground. Like I said, how could the flag, string, and hook all be still intact if he had ripped the flag off the ground? One of those things would've been ripped apart from the other two things if he had. THAT is what he was enraged about afterwards... it wasn't because he lost, it was because he didn't do what TJ said he did as far as justifying a disqualification.[/QUOTE] People have conveniently selective memory about the Duel. TJ and the producers apparently had their own concepts of how that challenge was going to be won... and what new "stars" they would be foisting on the viewers. In hindsight, it didn't work out well at all and they should have just accepted the winners that the rest of the cast saw right in front of them. The only thing CT might have done differently is to laugh at the producers and refuse to give them more camera ****. That is what Beth did, but I could not fault CT for being upset.

[QUOTE]Can anyone rank me this girls from best to worst with description? Kendal Sheppard Christena Pyle Holly Shand Holly Brentson Roni Martin Ellen Cho Also does anybody wonder if they will have a top 50 special of best challengers of all time or something like that? Cause It will be an awesome idea, who agrees?[/QUOTE] 1)Holly B- Outpeformed Emily and Holly Shand on the Battle of the Seasons by a lot and was a superior athlete to any Real World or Road Rules female competitor on challenges. 2)Holly S-Strong on all her challenges in particularly the Inferno, being the best female competitor and outperforming Veronica and Christena. 3)Ellen-Ranked 2nd on the female side on BOTS 1, and was mentally and physically strong and a good athlete. 4)Christena- She was strong on the Inferno for the most part, but Ellen was more skilled and I believe Ellen would outperform her slightly on a challenge like Veronica did on the Inferno 1. 5)Roni-Good athlete and was fairly skilled, though I question her physical strength. Christena ranks over Roni because I believe she would be much more capable of winning a challenge like the Duel, rather than Roni. 6)Kendal-Roni beats her by a hair. Kendal had great mental strength and was a decent athlete, but I believe Roni was more rounded as a competitor.

Actually...Holly B. wasn't that good of a competitor. Before I watched Battle of the Seasons, I was reading on here about people claiming she was a great competitor, so I paid extra attention in the missions and she was good, but wasn't amazing. I think the thing that made her stand out as a competitor was her heart and drive to win, but in the missions, she wasn't as amazing as you're saying she is.

[QUOTE=Youssarian;214185]Actually...Holly B. wasn't that good of a competitor. Before I watched Battle of the Seasons, I was reading on here about people claiming she was a great competitor, so I paid extra attention in the missions and she was good, but wasn't amazing. I think the thing that made her stand out as a competitor was her heart and drive to win, but in the missions, she wasn't as amazing as you're saying she is.[/QUOTE] Yeah she wasn't superwomen, but was superior to Emily and Holly Shand. Look at the climbing rope and the ladder of doom mission. And since we are dicussing a competitor being overrated, i recently discovered and came to the conclusion that Alton is overrated. He didn't outperform the Miz on the Gauntlet, they were tied 4 to 4 in missions, and Theo and outperformed him in missions.

Both Emily and Holly S. weren't great competitors on Battle of the Seasons either...Emily really shined on Battle of the Sexes, and Holly S. on the Inferno (apparently - I've actually never seen the Inferno but according to other people). The climbing rope mission? Is that the one where Kelley smoked everyone? From what I remember of Battle of the Seasons, Kelley was comparable to Holly B. in the missions, so why isn't she on a "top competitors" list?

Yes, Kelley smoked everyone on the rope climbing mission. What made Holly B. stand out is that she and Theo were a very dominant duo, winning several missions. She just kind of seemed like a natural, from what I remember.

[QUOTE] Both Emily and Holly S. weren't great competitors on Battle of the Seasons either...Emily really shined on Battle of the Sexes, and Holly S. on the Inferno (apparently - I've actually never seen the Inferno but according to other people). [B]The climbing rope mission? Is that the one where Kelley smoked everyone? From what I remember of Battle of the Seasons, Kelley was comparable to Holly B. in the missions, so why isn't she on a "top competitors" list?[/B] [/QUOTE] That was only one mission. CT got outperformed in several missions aswell, but not overall. Holly was the best female competitor on the Battle of the Seasons overall. Kelley was not seeing Holly as a competitor........give me a break.

[SIZE="7"]O[/SIZE] thats a circle, just like the topic of lists, and who's better.

I'm sorry, and I don't mean to be rude, but I never really understood why people get so riled up over who is the best and all that nonsense. It's really mostly a matter of opinion and personal preference. I could say I thought Casey was the strongest and it wouldn't matter, because it'd be my opinion. It would be a terrible opinion, but I just think it's kind of ridiculous. You can't really say who's the best unless you have one giant super challenge with all 100+ cast members and even then you probably wouldn't know. I'm not saying it shouldn't be discussed, but more that I think it sometimes gets out of hand haha.