I just want to say as far as Veronica, she's trying to be self righteous now and be on Wes's side and against Evan and Kenny. But I still think she's only bitter because she wasn't in the in group. If Evan and Kenny included her she would be joining up with them in a heart beat, ready to go against everyone outside the group, and especially Wes. In fact I seem to remember her not caring for Wes at all until she got the message that Evan wasn't interested in helping her! Sorry that's just the way I feel. Anyone else think so? I just think it would be hypocritical of her to judge Evan and Kenny for controlling the game and being mean to others.
oh yeah and I like this reunion too.
[QUOTE=eggs78;145405]Wes and KellyAnne addressed their relationship in the "[URL="http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/465159/its-complicated.jhtml#id=1627938"]Reunion Backstage Pass[/URL]". I also found the clip with Wes and Katie talking about how [URL="http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/465163/night-and-day.jhtml#id=1627938"]Johanna has changed[/URL] interesting. Wish Vman was still around to elaborate since he is close to both Johanna and Katie.[/QUOTE] Yes that was the most interesting part because Katie flat out said she is a b word now. And she said her and Johanna used to be really close friends but now she's changed like night and day.
And Katie and Wes said everyone who has known Johanna for longer than 3 years has said the same thing that she's a total different person now. I remember Derrick on the Island said he didn't like her because she had gotten an attitude.
Kind of sad how Johanna was so close to Katie and Wes and they can't stand each other now. Kenny even said she changed in the last year, so maybe no one likes her anymore. What do you think, vmann? Think maybe she feels she has to be tougher on the challenges or something? And Katie not liking Evan and Kenny made it hard for her?
[QUOTE=Unicorn;145442]Yes that was the most interesting part because Katie flat out said she is a b word now. And she said her and Johanna used to be really close friends but now she's changed like night and day.
And Katie and Wes said everyone who has known Johanna for longer than 3 years has said the same thing that she's a total different person now. I remember Derrick on the Island said he didn't like her because she had gotten an attitude.
Kind of sad how Johanna was so close to Katie and Wes and they can't stand each other now. Kenny even said she changed in the last year, so maybe no one likes her anymore. What do you think, vmann? Think maybe she feels she has to be tougher on the challenges or something? And Katie not liking Evan and Kenny made it hard for her?[/QUOTE]
I thought that was interesting as well. It seems like no one is really close to Johanna anymore. I haven't really noticed any major changes in her on the show though, other than what seems like a lack to want to compete.
I agree with the people who said Wes and Kelly Anne don't have the chemistry Wes and Johanna had. I think Johanna hurt Wes so bad, that he wanted to just have a girl to rub in her face. It doesn't seem to me that Kelly Anne is even that interested in Wes. It just seemed he was a temporary thing for her, and she is not the type to be tied down.
[QUOTE=cjslife;145444]I thought that was interesting as well. It seems like no one is really close to Johanna anymore. I haven't really noticed any major changes in her on the show though, other than what seems like a lack to want to compete.[/QUOTE]
I do atleast from the way she is on tv only in terms of the people she is close with and how she conducts herself. Just remember when she was on her first challenge and on her season, she seemed a lot warmer and really sweet. I remember she was really close to Katie then. And even Coral liked her. I don't know if she's gotten colder as a person since then or maybe the challenge environment where she's the closest girl to Kenny and Evan, turned a lot of people against her. But Katie and Wes said everyone who has know Johanna since her season has said she has changed.
There wasn't much to the reunion to be honest but it wasn't that bad. It was good to see Katie and some of the others though. Well it was hilarious that Evan and Kenny were dubbed the new "mean girls" haha
[QUOTE=Unicorn;145442]Yes that was the most interesting part because Katie flat out said she is a b word now. And she said her and Johanna used to be really close friends but now she's changed like night and day.[/QUOTE]
I suspect that Evan and Kenny have something to do with that.
[QUOTE=molds13;145459]I suspect that Evan and Kenny have something to do with that.[/QUOTE]
i would disagree, since it seems Katie is now friends with Evan and Kenny.. and Jo is separating herself from them...
[QUOTE=gamer73;145457]Veronica never did say that she was done with the challenges.[/QUOTE]
Maybe not on the reunion, but that is the last time you will ever see Veronica on a challenge unless something changes big time.
[QUOTE=RMD1;145487]Maybe not on the reunion, but that is the last time you will ever see Veronica on a challenge unless something changes big time.[/QUOTE]
Just because she had a status on facebook that said challenges aren't for me anymore, she's done forever? Plenty of people said that.
And whoever said it was hypocritical of Veronica regarding the Kenny and Evan situation, I totally agree. She wanted to be in the alliance and did everything to try to squirm her way into and it didn't work. Funny how she was all for getting rid of Wes and just because things didn't work out for her she's suddenly "against" them. Veronica has no room to talk...hypocrite. And this coming from a fan..
It was also funny how the Champions team outright said Wes had no other option then to do what he did. I wonder if Wes understands why they didn't want him there. I'm happy Wes wasn't really focused on. I had enough of him after this season.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;145489]Just because she had a status on facebook that said challenges aren't for me anymore, she's done forever? Plenty of people said that.
And whoever said it was hypocritical of Veronica regarding the Kenny and Evan situation, I totally agree. She wanted to be in the alliance and did everything to try to squirm her way into and it didn't work. Funny how she was all for getting rid of Wes and just because things didn't work out for her she's suddenly "against" them. Veronica has no room to talk...hypocrite. And this coming from a fan..[/QUOTE]
I think that her desire to be in that alliance ended quickly...
Although, I don't mind hearing Veronica be called a hypocrite ;)
[QUOTE=salt&vinegar;145495]I think that her desire to be in that alliance ended quicly...
Although, I don't mind hearing Veronica be called a hypocrite ;)[/QUOTE]
Yeah it ended as soon as she found out it didn't work, don't give her credit. Out of all the people to talk about being shady and what not, girls got no room to talk.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;145489][B]Just because she had a status on facebook that said challenges aren't for me anymore, she's done forever? Plenty of people said that.[/B]And whoever said it was hypocritical of Veronica regarding the Kenny and Evan situation, I totally agree. She wanted to be in the alliance and did everything to try to squirm her way into and it didn't work. Funny how she was all for getting rid of Wes and just because things didn't work out for her she's suddenly "against" them. Veronica has no room to talk...hypocrite. And this coming from a fan..[/QUOTE]
She spoke with me 1 on 1. She said she is done. "They aren't for her anymore." She is 30 and is over the challenges.
[QUOTE=RMD1;145498]She spoke with me 1 on 1. She said she is done. "They aren't for her anymore." She is 30 and is over the challenges.[/QUOTE]
Oh okay...
I have seen every single Real World and RW/RR Challenge reunion and this was by far the worst one. It was so boring. All they did was rehash **** that was on the aftershows. I was sick of all the Wes/Johanna/KellyAnne/Cohutta/Kenny **** and the Darrell/Brad ****. So
overplayed. It's a shame they couldn't convince Tonya to be on. There was no fighting, no drama, or anything. I usually love the reunions, but there was nothing here that I didn't already know.
Dunbar was a waste of space. At least Derrick won - I feel bad he was the only champion who was not invited.
If you're going to have Veronica on the show, at least address whether she was planning to throw challenges and align with the other team since there were like 3 episodes devoted to that storyline (and the whole Ibis vote thing).
I like Katie but there was really no point in her being there. She left so early and the plunger thing was inconsequential.
[QUOTE=sockruhtese;145234][B]Johanna is so mean to Wes[/B]. The only reason she's on the reunions is because of Wes and Kenny. Without them, she'd be irrelevant. It's not like she has amazing athletic ability or an interesting personality. If Wes and Kenny really do bury the hatchet, then she has no storyline.[/QUOTE]
From what Jojo said on the reunion how do you think she is so mean to Wes? The one thing she said was that they weren't engaged. If someone was constantly saying something about me that wasn't true I'd call them on it too.
[QUOTE=jr588;145503]I have seen every single Real World and RW/RR Challenge reunion and this was by far the worst one. It was so boring. All they did was rehash **** that was on the aftershows. I was sick of all the Wes/Johanna/KellyAnne/Cohutta/Kenny **** and the Darrell/Brad ****. So
overplayed. It's a shame they couldn't convince Tonya to be on. There was no fighting, no drama, or anything. I usually love the reunions, but there was nothing here that I didn't already know.
Dunbar was a waste of space. At least Derrick won - I feel bad he was the only champion who was not invited.
If you're going to have Veronica on the show, at least address whether she was planning to throw challenges and align with the other team since there were like 3 episodes devoted to that storyline (and the whole Ibis vote thing).
I like Katie but there was really no point in her being there. She left so early and the plunger thing was inconsequential.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the rundown. You have convinced me I am not missing much and I will be skipping this. Sad to know Veronica didnt say much, she was going to be my reason for watching this but since they seemed to overlook her I can now overlook watching this ****fest.
[QUOTE=RRRWJunkie;145522]From what Jojo said on the reunion how do you think she is so mean to Wes? The one thing she said was that they weren't engaged. If someone was constantly saying something about me that wasn't true I'd call them on it too.[/QUOTE]
Don't assume I'm just talking about the reunion.
[QUOTE=sockruhtese;145534]Don't assume I'm just talking about the reunion.[/QUOTE]
Well since this is the [B]reunion thread[/B] I thought it was a safe assumption. But since I am apparently wrong please do explain to me what you meant to say in so few words.
[QUOTE=Aquatta;145532]Thanks for the rundown. You have convinced me I am not missing much and I will be skipping this. Sad to know Veronica didnt say much, she was going to be my reason for watching this but since they seemed to overlook her I can now overlook watching this [***************]
If it's such a ******** why are you spending so much time on the message boards for it?
I normally like Maria but she did a horrible job of asking the questions or being told what to ask or whatever. She could have instigated the drama way more, there was tension for sure. Katie should have been asked about her feelings towards Evan & Kenny, she will always say whatever she feels and clearly be her blog after the episode she has ill feelings towards Evan. Veronica would have spoken her mind alot more so than she did. Johnny clearly was bitter towards some people but it was kinda brushed off.
[QUOTE=Bolt8;145545]I normally like Maria but she did a horrible job of asking the questions or being told what to ask or whatever. She could have instigated the drama way more, there was tension for sure. Katie should have been asked about her feelings towards Evan & Kenny, she will always say whatever she feels and clearly be her blog after the episode she has ill feelings towards Evan. Veronica would have spoken her mind alot more so than she did. Johnny clearly was bitter towards some people but it was kinda brushed off.[/QUOTE]
Whoever was doing those interviews said that Katie was cool with E&K again. It would explain why she was was friendly with them on the backstage pass thing they have on the site. I'm kind of surprised myself, but then again, I know its just a game show.
And although Veronica did "speak her mind" , it wasn't like she was calling them out. All in all, everybody seemed to be cool with other, which was nice for a change, IMO.
Anyone think Kenny and Wes got along on FM2? It would explain a lot of things.
I'm not impressed with Maria. Lindsey did a great job on the G3 reunion of stirring ****.
I think Katie is fine with them, cause I think Katie seperates the game from real life. However the show was about the game. I think if asked about her opinions on Evan's game play she would have called him a fake mother f****er and Johnny and Veronica I think would have agreed and it would have been an interesting segment. I think Sarah sould have been called out on all her talking about KellyAnne behind her back (the dailies). It should have been brought up what an instigater (I didn't spell that right at all sorry) Susie was.
[QUOTE=RRRWJunkie;145543]If it's such a ******** why are you spending so much time on the message boards for it?[/QUOTE]
Because I watched most of this season to see Veronica's return and I wanted to see if she was going to play a big part in the Reunion. I'd rather read about it than waste my time watching it. Besides it is really hard for me to watch anything with JEK on it. I was curious to see what Veronica would do so the rundown and you guy's comments helped me to decide not to watch.
I think the reunion and this season showed a very clear line between Evan and Kenny (though I do think Kenny is always a #2 when it comes to challeges- he was the number 2 to Evan here, and the number 2 to Johnny on the Island) and Johnny.
People hate Johnny because he sticks to his guns. He says he will do something in a game and he does it, in regards to protecting himself and voting off people that are not part of the alliance.
People hate Evan and Kenny for what they do socially. And what they say. Katie and Sarah ( from what I remember, I am happy to be corrected if I am wrong) both say Evan and Kenny are the mean ones. They say stuff to the cast mates. However, they both play the game to make everyone happy. Basically Evan tells everyone he is going to protect them and the screws them. Johnny seems much more of the "yeah we are going to vote you off, then you, then you" type.
Next topic. Did anyone else think it was interesting that KA said she would have cut a deal with Johnny (before anyone else on the champ team). Just wondering what everyones thoughts on that were.
[QUOTE=tjhallow;145555]Thats why I said I wasn't impressed with Maria.[/QUOTE]
I'm also not [I]super[/I] impressed with Maria's hosting (not bashing her, I just don't quite feel the way it seems most here do about her hosting). However, I don't think she's really worse than anyone in particular, either (just adding in an extra thought I have on the matter, not implying that's how you feel, tj). I do think she does a really good job of making sure things don't get too out of hand or off course and she seems to be knowledgeable about the shows and interested in them. Those are major factors for the host to have, IMO.
The next point may not be her doing, but it is kind of weird when she directs certain questions towards people who don't really have much to do with a situation. I think perhaps they just want to utilize everyone there. Someone like Johanna typically doesn't have much to say because a lot of the big drama doesn't have a lot to do with her (i.e. it was more of Wes vs. Kenny/Evan, even though Wes's past relationship with Johanna sparked some of that drama). So you have to ask her something if you want her to speak. But I think it's best to just ask those people more general questions.
And sometimes the transitions/segways used to get on the topic of so and so are kind of awkward. Also, it sometimes feels like she will pointedly make a comment to get the cast to comment on it and agree with her. I think a little more objectivity could be used, or different methods of bringing up a topic could be used. I guess it's hard to make the reunion work really well unless they timed it to be an hour only while filming, had a list of questions to fly through, and only allotted a certain amount of time. I'd still love it if MTV would think about putting up the unedited versions of the reunions online.
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