Harper's Island

[quote=molds13;89029]It's not as MAJOR as you think...I was going to say "MAJOR", but I dunno. Here's a minor version (which I'm sure you can still probably figure out): [/quote] Ah ok, I can deal with those spoilers. I just didn't want to know identities yet. I like to leave a little to be surprised about. ;)

[QUOTE=tatertots;89030]Ah ok, I can deal with those spoilers. I just didn't want to know identities yet. I like to leave a little to be surprised about. ;)[/QUOTE] Haha...one of them is very surprising.

[quote=molds13;89033]Haha...one of them is very surprising.[/quote] You already know the identities of the killers or the victims or both?

[QUOTE=tatertots;89034]You already know the identities of the killers or the victims or both?[/QUOTE] I know one of the killers (Wakefield) and the identities of tonight's victims.

[quote=molds13;89038]I know one of the killers (Wakefield) and the identities of tonight's victims.[/quote] Ah okay. I thought you had found out the identity of the other killer when you found that spoiler. I am loving these episodes when people are just getting picked off left and right! I also like the idea of having the last 2 eps play back to back. Hopefully it will play out like a mini movie or something.

[QUOTE=tatertots;89039]Ah okay. I thought you had found out the identity of the other killer when you found that spoiler. I am loving these episodes when people are just getting picked off left and right! I also like the idea of having the last 2 eps play back to back. Hopefully it will play out like a mini movie or something.[/QUOTE] I think if one looks close enough, they might be able to figure it out this episode. It all depends on how it plays out, I suppose. I'm also loving how this has been playing out over the last couple of episodes. It's really been picking up steam. Supposedly the killer is revealed in the next episode, and the finale has the remaining survivors leaving the island (hence the episode names "Gasp" and "Sigh"). I'm assuming tonight Wakefield reveals to someone that there's been someone helping him. Either that, or they finally figure it out on their own. Based on the smarts of these people, I'm gonna guess the former.

[quote=molds13;89040]I think if one looks close enough, they might be able to figure it out this episode. It all depends on how it plays out, I suppose. I'm also loving how this has been playing out over the last couple of episodes. It's really been picking up steam. Supposedly the killer is revealed in the next episode, and the finale has the remaining survivors leaving the island (hence the episode names "Gasp" and "Sigh"). I'm assuming tonight Wakefield reveals to someone that there's been someone helping him. Either that, or they finally figure it out on their own. [B]Based on the smarts of these people, I'm gonna guess the former.[/B][/quote] Haha so true! Youtube will be my friend tonight, both so I can watch some Jackson 5 and MJ videos and so I can obsessively check for new postings of Harper's Island. All while being pleased or ****** about the eliminations on SYTYCD tonight :)

OMG, that was so sad. I won't say for west coast viewers, but I definitely so called the killer.

Right now the second killer appears to be [spoiler]Jimmy[/spoiler] But there is some nagging at me about that and I don't know what. It very well could be a misdirected. But it would explain alot. Either way it was another good episode and I can't wait until the finale. And as for the people that are nit picking about all the missed shots....get over it haha Two were through closed doors....Cal was injured when he shot. And Henry/Abby were too far away to shoot anything with the weapons they had. Also... [spoiler]The whole Cal/Chloe thing was very touching especially the marriage proposal....it was sad seeing them both die even though I thought they were the killers at one point haha[/spoiler]

[SPOILER] Yeah the Cal/Chloe thing was so sad. It definitely was by far the saddest moment of the season. [/SPOILER] [SPOILER]I also starting thinking Jimmy was possibly the second killer a couple episodes ago. I do not remember the exact lines, but it was during the flashback scene with Abby and her mother. I remember her mother talking about being with guys that were bad when she was young; which was a juxtuposition to Abby being with Jimmy. I hope that made sense. [/SPOILER]

My initial thought it that it was Henry or Jimmy. At this point, it seems too obvious that it'd be Jimmy...I'm still holding out that it's Henry. Plus, next week's episode says "the killer will be revealed"...if it's Jimmy, wouldn't that mean that he'd already been revealed? Plus, why was Henry holding back Abby all of those times in the forest? It seemed like he was stalling so that Wakefield could gain some ground. Just a thought...

[quote=molds13;89820]My initial thought it that it was Henry or Jimmy. At this point, it seems too obvious that it'd be Jimmy...I'm still holding out that it's Henry. Plus, next week's episode says "the killer will be revealed"...if it's Jimmy, wouldn't that mean that he'd already been revealed? Plus, [B]why was Henry holding back Abby all of those times in the forest? It seemed like he was stalling so that Wakefield could gain some ground.[/B] Just a thought...[/quote] I was thinking that too, like he was all of a sudden going to pull a sneak attack on Cal. There have been hints along the way that make me think it really is Jimmy, in the flashbacks and like Bacchus pointed out when he went to untangle the rope around Ben underwater, but it also feels too obvious to me. I mean, Jimmy didn't gather everyone up and say "Hey Henry, have your wedding here!" Henry chose the island, seems to have an infatuation with Abby and was around to kill cousin Ben before they came over. He would be the ultimate betrayal to the whole clan.

[QUOTE=tatertots;89854]I was thinking that too, like he was all of a sudden going to pull a sneak attack on Cal. There have been hints along the way that make me think it really is Jimmy, in the flashbacks and like Bacchus pointed out when he went to untangle the rope around Ben underwater, but it also feels too obvious to me. I mean, Jimmy didn't gather everyone up and say "Hey Henry, have your wedding here!" Henry chose the island, seems to have an infatuation with Abby and was around to kill cousin Ben before they came over. He would be the ultimate betrayal to the whole clan.[/QUOTE] They seem to focus on characters right before they get killed off (Richard, Sheriff Mills, Cal, Chloe, etc) so I have a feeling that Jimmy is going to not be around much longer. They've looked at him just long enough to be shady, and just long enough to be eligible for the axe. If he does end up being killed, it could be one of those "everyone watches him be killed by the second killer" type deals. I'm about 95% confident it's Henry at this point in time. But I'm still keeping my eye on creepster Madison. If you look at it, it is kind of all her fault...if she would've said something the first DAY when she saw him, this could've all been avoided. Ah, how much I love shizz like this. The speculation could drive someone crazy...

[quote=molds13;89863]They seem to focus on characters right before they get killed off (Richard, Sheriff Mills, Cal, Chloe, etc) so I have a feeling that Jimmy is going to not be around much longer. They've looked at him just long enough to be shady, and just long enough to be eligible for the axe. If he does end up being killed, it could be one of those "everyone watches him be killed by the second killer" type deals. I'm about 95% confident it's Henry at this point in time. But I'm still keeping my eye on creepster Madison. If you look at it, it is kind of all her fault...if she would've said something the first DAY when she saw him, this could've all been avoided. Ah, how much I love shizz like this. The speculation could drive someone crazy...[/quote] Sometimes it is hard to really place who the second killer really is. Obviously Henry does have some really suspicious moments through out the season. Though to fuel the Jimmy fire....when the boat blew up it gave a perfect cover for not only prevent anyone from leaving but for Jimmy to operate freely.

[QUOTE=GoldenWarrior;89892]Sometimes it is hard to really place who the second killer really is. Obviously Henry does have some really suspicious moments through out the season. Though to fuel the Jimmy fire....when the boat blew up it gave a perfect cover for not only prevent anyone from leaving but for Jimmy to operate freely.[/QUOTE] Watch it be neither of them. I still have .001% on Trish.

[quote=molds13;89894]Watch it be neither of them. I still have .001% on Trish.[/quote] I have that too. Whenever she gives those sideways glances towards Abby/Henry when he pays her a little too much attention, there seems to be more behind her eyes than just a jealous glare. I do think Madison has more to do with this than has been revealed but I think it would be a little too much for me if she was one of the masterminds. I can never get into the speculation on all the RW/RR Challenges or what will happen on a new RW season, but speculating on this stuff to figure out a mystery I am totally up for! :) [quote=GoldenWarrior;89892]Though to fuel the Jimmy fire....when the boat blew up it gave a perfect cover for not only prevent anyone from leaving but for Jimmy to operate freely.[/quote] The thing that struck me as weird with the whole boat explosion situation was when Abby's dad said that Wakefield kept his word to keep Jimmy alive. Why would he promise anything to the sheriff? He hates him, and if the whole reason for doing this is to hurt Abby then wouldn't killing Jimmy be an awesome way to do that? That just makes me think that Jimmy has always been a part of it and it had been their plan to fake his death so he could operate even more freely than before like you said GW.

[quote=molds13;89894]Watch it be neither of them. I still have .001% on Trish.[/quote] I feel like that too. In the end it could very well be Jerry the Janitor or Bob the builder lol There is always a certain mistrust when they have been building up people to be the killer only to have them die. Trish could be the killer...she would have some motive to want to hurt Abby in a way. Though I'm not betting on her. [quote=tatertots;89942]I have that too. Whenever she gives those sideways glances towards Abby/Henry when he pays her a little too much attention, there seems to be more behind her eyes than just a jealous glare. I do think Madison has more to do with this than has been revealed but I think it would be a little too much for me if she was one of the masterminds. I can never get into the speculation on all the RW/RR Challenges or what will happen on a new RW season, but speculating on this stuff to figure out a mystery I am totally up for! :) The thing that struck me as weird with the whole boat explosion situation was when Abby's dad said that Wakefield kept his word to keep Jimmy alive. Why would he promise anything to the sheriff? He hates him, and if the whole reason for doing this is to hurt Abby then wouldn't killing Jimmy be an awesome way to do that? That just makes me think that Jimmy has always been a part of it and it had been their plan to fake his death so he could operate even more freely than before like you said GW.[/quote] Madison is one **** creepy kid haha If she were older I would think she was involved. Though who knows what her angle is in relation to the storyline but I think it could be bigger than revealed now. Also that is a good point about Jimmy. When Wakefield burst in and killed Shane/Nikki, Jimmy was supposedly left unconscious but somehow escaped unharmed. Another thought is Jimmy was the sniper that pinned them down and this left time for Wakefield to set up the Sheriff's demise.

[quote=GoldenWarrior;89983]Also that is a good point about Jimmy. When Wakefield burst in and killed Shane/Nikki, Jimmy was supposedly left unconscious but somehow escaped unharmed. Another thought is Jimmy was the sniper that pinned them down and this left time for Wakefield to set up the Sheriff's demise.[/quote] Yeah when he was left by Wakefield that just added to suspicion why he would let him live and not others, especially other locals. If he did make a deal with the sheriff what was the price? Supposedly he traded his life for Jimmy's but I feel like Wakefield was going to kill him anyway, it's not like the sheriff could defend himself that well being hurt so badly. Jimmy could be the sniper but he would have had what? A minute to get up on the dock and start firing at them? That's a little too quick for me. Plus the sniper was already wearing a sheriff's jacket so I think Abby's dad had already been taken by that point.

[quote=Bacchus;90023] Last night's episode was completely awesome. This is great television. I am going to be sad when it is all over.[/quote] I am going to be sad too. I really wish they would try to do one more season with their original plan to do each new season in a different place. I think it could have been a great series. Can't wait for the back-to-back finale next Saturday!

Karim Zreik, the co-executive producer, has been answering LOTS of questions on his Twitter page. He provides some obvious answers (yes, Booth is really dead) as well a bit more of an answer on others (why did Uncle Marty have the money?) and he also reveals that they will be telling us why some people were killed, and that we have definitely seen the killer (meaning there is no new character to be brought in). [URL="http://twitter.com/karimzreik"]Karim Zreik (karimzreik) on Twitter[/URL] Some interesting semi-spoilers for the upcoming episode (Gasp): [spoiler]-Wakefield's kid is revealed. (But is it Henry, or Jimmy?) -Henry's parents will be explained. -Why the sheriff was killed will be explained thoroughly. -The police station plays a "huge role. Big. Huge. Big big." in the upcoming episode. -Trish gets in her dress voluntarily. -More than one death, but less than four. [/spoiler] And for the finale (Sigh): [spoiler]-The second killer will be revealed. -The bag of money that Uncle Marty and Hunter had will be explained.[/spoiler] He also says that there's a "really really good" twist at the end of Ep. 12 that will be explained in Ep. 13, and that "the last 2 min of show will shock you" We're also in agreement that Madison freaks both of us out. Some of the questions I found most interesting: Q: Is there any relevance to when the psychic tells Trish that her betrayer will also be her savior? A: you're good. Q: is there a reason trish was wering a wedding dress in the preview for the next episodes? A: yes, and it's a very good reason. Q: Is there anything important about the oxygen tanks on the luggage rack in episode one? A: YES YES YES!!

So I watched the episode online yesterday, and I was shocked that Cal and Chloe were killed off. Can't wait for July 11th!

I'm not alone! An interview with Cameron Richardson (Chloe) and Adam Campbell (Cal): [B]Who do you think is the killer?[/B] Cameron: Madison. Adam: It's gotta be Madison. She is so creepy. Cameron: [B]She is actually a 45-year-old little person.[/B] Adam: [B]Who is exceptionally strong and violent.[/B] Cameron: Either that or me and Cal coming back to haunt the island. [URL="http://www.fearnet.com/news/b15308_harpers_dead_we_talk_exclusively_first.html"][/URL]

FEARNet has some good interviews with some of the latest victims: [URL="http://www.fearnet.com/news/b15915_harpers_dead_we_speak_with_the_flirt.html-"]Cal and Chloe[/URL] [URL="http://www.fearnet.com/news/b15918_harpers_dead_we_chat_with_sheriff_mills.html"]Sheriff Mills[/URL] [URL="http://www.fearnet.com/news/b15834_harpers_dead_we_chat_with_victims_beth.html"]Beth and Katherine Wellington[/URL] [URL="http://www.fearnet.com/news/b15722_exclusive_we_chat_with_latest_harpers.html"]Malcolm[/URL] [URL="http://www.fearnet.com/news/b15670_harpers_dead_we_chat_with_latest_victim.html"]Richard[/URL] [URL="http://www.fearnet.com/news/b15366_harpers_dead_we_chat_exclusively_with.html"]Kelly[/URL] [URL="http://www.fearnet.com/news/b15427_harpers_dead_our_exclusive_interview.html"]Hunter[/URL] [URL="http://www.fearnet.com/news/b15367_harpers_dead_our_exclusive_interview.html"]Lucy[/URL] [URL="http://www.fearnet.com/news/b15308_harpers_dead_we_talk_exclusively_first.html"]Uncle Marty[/URL]

Great stuff molds! I love Cal & Chloe joking about Madison being an old lady :D It reminds me of some commentary from "Superbad" when Judd Apatow said that they had to use the hands of a 40 yr old woman to film the bit when the girl looks at the uh..."dirty" drawings in the lunchbox because it was deemed too scandalous to have the real kid look at during the shot!

[quote=molds13;90678] Q: Is there anything important about the oxygen tanks on the luggage rack in episode one? A: YES YES YES!![/quote] Here are the screen shots from Ep 1, and maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see anything of specific importance: [URL="http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=2756"][IMG]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/15504a4bc0ed7d1f1.gif[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://vevmo.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=2755"][IMG]http://vevmo.com/imagehosting/15504a4bc09323368.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Anyone else?

[quote=molds13;91013]Here are the screen shots from Ep 1, and maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see anything of specific importance: Anyone else?[/quote] The only things I would think is that it would give a hint that it belongs with the luggage on that cart and that that person is either the one who first killed cousin Billy and put him under the boat, or it has to do with the money and the tanks are to be used either in the killings or to do something with the money. We'll see soon enough though.

[quote=tatertots;91089]The only things I would think is that it would give a hint that it belongs with the luggage on that cart and that that person is either the one who first killed cousin Billy and put him under the boat, or it has to do with the money and the tanks are to be used either in the killings or to do something with the money. We'll see soon enough though.[/quote] Cousin Ben. :) In between the first and third shots, it shows Booth picking up a black bag with a red and white tag on it from the cart, similar to the other black bag that remained on the left. But since he's dead (and he is dead), and I'm not willing to figure out who's bag belongs to who, it'll have to remain a mystery...