RW/RR Challenge: The Ruins - Spoilers & Speculation

[quote=Dartagnan;85112]B you love to torture. Haha. Interesting logo though. Go KellyAnne and Sarah.[/quote] I found the logo interesting as well. I wonder if the cast actually had to stay at one of those temples in Thailand that mimic the Mayan Ruins of ancient history that were often found in jungles. That could be an interesting look, and perhaps one of the small few expectations I have for this challenge. I'm sorry, but unless there is a separation of teams at the end, or a series of mazes and puzzles, I expect the Final challenge to be as exciting as sitting on the 405 in rush hour in Los Angeles heading in either direction. However, to spark my interest, I am willing to bet anything to anyone in vevmoland that Johnny, Kenny, or Evan never even saw a faceoff. 25 to 1 odds on anything, and I hate gambling. I hope this spawns a new concept. The cast looks very interesting though.

[quote=Dartagnan;85285]Someone feels my pain? I'm not crazy! No seriously, screw the 5. I don't know Darock, I have a feeling at least one of them saw a face-off. My opinion is that there is an incentive to going into the elimination round.[/quote] Interesting, I could actually see going into an elimination round as risk vs incentive. Or I could see incentive for manipulating elimination rounds to be strong head to head battles, to create the possible scenario we now have before us (2 females - 1 rookie and the smallest remaining girl, vs 4 seasoned veterans, and a loudmouth, unathletic Bananas who just so happen to be best friends with 2 of the forementioned competitors on the presumtuous stacked side). However, I am convinced that neither Johnny or Kenny would survive a face off against any of the remaining cast. We'll I give Kenny slightly more credit than Johnny, but not much.

Nedermeyer is not a bad competitor, he's just not up there. I give Nedermeyer a lot more credit than someone like Dunbar. Anyways, think outside the box.

[quote=tjhallow;85301]Nedermeyer is not a bad competitor, he's just not up there. I give Nedermeyer a lot more credit than someone like Dunbar. Anyways, think outside the box.[/quote] I agree with you there, however if Dunbar actually had to go in more than once, as opposed to doing what he did on The Island and the Duel 2 .... then perhaps my perspective of him could change. At least Nehemiah has went in and not cried about it. He lost to Evan, and lost to Eric in what was the most ridiculous elimination idea (I Can) in the history of the challenges. Evan has gone in in the past and prevailed. His only lost was to CT in a puzzle, so i could see him and Derrick going in to do "dirty work" if there is indeed an incentive or some cash prize for winning a faceoff. Kenny & Johnny, Dart has put it best. I'm trying to think outside the box, but I'm still erplexed as to how the same people can manipulate situations every challenge.

And to add to that maybe the cast is just LETTING them run things.

[quote=Dartagnan;85304]Judging by some [B]Facebook comments[/B], Ibis, Susie, and Sarah are pretty close friends or have become close friends. [B]Possible alliance?[/B][/quote] Ibis and Susie were friends since Gauntlet 2, but judging by some fb cmnts Ibis, and Susie are good friends with Sarah also. Ibis and Johanna are friends as well. I can see a possible alliance. Ibis and Johanna made it halfway so idk.

I thought Ibis and Susie didn't like eachother during G2 because of the Susie and Cara drama.

[quote=RMD1;85383]I thought [B]Ibis and Susie didn't like eachother[/B] during G2 because of the Susie and Cara drama.[/quote] Ibis posted a Myspace blog once saying she cleared everything up with Susie.

[quote=rw/rrjunkie;85386]Ibis posted a Myspace blog once saying she cleared everything up with Susie.[/quote] Okay! Thanks for letting me know! :)

[quote=Debut Album;85331]And to add to that maybe the cast is just LETTING them run things.[/quote] [B]Exactly, a la the Island and the Duel 2.[/B]

[quote=Dartagnan;85429]I don't know about that. Some of the guys on this cast, don't seem like they would do that.[/quote] You would be surprised. I would align myself with anyone if I knew they could get me far, all bull**** aside, they are competing for money, not everyone has play a nice clean game. And if they keep in winning, the strategy is working for them. I give kudos to people who outsmart people and keep on winning.

I think Kenny is a good compeitor. I think [EMAIL="Derrick@Evan"]Derrick@Evan[/EMAIL] are great compeitors. Johnny Bannanas is not a good compeitor. Tyler beat him on the Duel, Inferno 3 only reason he ade it to the end is becuase the good guys male team sucked Ace,Timmy and Davis and Johnny Alton carried them. Gaunlet 3 CT called Johnny out for begin the weakest player and he was the 1st guy home. Then all of the sudden he comes on the Island and takes over yes the Island cast was weak outside of Derrick,Dunbar,Kenny and Abe who quit. Now on the Pit or the Ruins He is at the end again over Wes and Darrell and Syrus who i would bet would smoke Johnny in a Pit Duel.

[quote=Dartagnan;85439]Never said they wouldn't align themselves. I just said I bet there are a few who wouldn't let them run the game. I doubt Wes would align himself with them.[/quote] I doubt Wes would either but thats not the point. Wes does whatever he wants.

[quote=jones10389;85443]I think Kenny is a good compeitor. I think Derrick@Evan are great compeitors. Johnny Bannanas is not a good compeitor. Tyler beat him on the Duel, Inferno 3 only reason he ade it to the end is becuase the good guys male team sucked Ace,Timmy and Davis and Johnny Alton carried them. Gaunlet 3 CT called Johnny out for begin the weakest player and he was the 1st guy home. Then all of the sudden he comes on the Island and takes over yes the Island cast was weak outside of Derrick,Dunbar,Kenny and Abe who quit. Now on the Pit or the Ruins He is at the end again over Wes and Darrell and Syrus who i would bet would smoke Johnny in a Pit Duel.[/quote] Out of Johnny, Kenny and Evan, I think Johnny is the weakest. But I also think he did pretty well for himself on Inferno 3. And he lost to Tyler in "I Can," which shows me that maybe he's just not a great gambler (nor any good at estimating weight). In G3, I thought he had an injured ankle or something and they were afraid to send in Eric. Maybe one of the weaker guys, but not any less of an asset than Eric. I don't think he's a terrible [I]competitor[/I], but he just might not be as strong as the others. Personal distaste left over from The Island aside, I think he can at least hold his own and that's part of why he seems to have made it to the end this time.

I don't think Johnny is good strength wise or brains wise, since his Gauntelt with Evan was a puzzle and the duel with Tyler was to carry weight. We haven't seen him in an elimination that has to do with speed. If I'm wrong, then Johnny isn't a good competitor.

[quote=tjhallow;85445]I doubt Wes would either but thats not the point. Wes does whatever he wants.[/quote] And that's why he isn't at the end.

Seriously an alliance like JEK could be broken up rather quickly. It's obvious what needs to be done, and it's not like Kenny or Johnny are that great. They are more, mid level competitors.

I think Kenny's performance level would be ranked way above Johnny's.

[quote=producer88;85527]Seriously an alliance like JEK could be broken up rather quickly. It's obvious what needs to be done, and it's not like Kenny or Johnny are that great. They are more, mid level competitors.[/quote] It could be, very easily, but its pretty obvious it hasn't.

I know TJ, which is sad. On doubt of that, let them kill each other. It's all about making one of them brake, and not trust the other two. I think Evan and Johnny are more east to manipulate, then Kenny. It's so simple to get one of those two on your side, they play the game paranoid.

And thats why I don't blame them. Its pretty obvious Johnny didn't have to act like an idiot on the Island but its even more dumb when you have people who follow them and who can't think for themselves.

I agree that Kenny is far more better than Johnny,\. We have seen Kenny prove himself on Fresh Meat, Duel w/ lucky win :D, and The Island. We haven't seen anything of johnny except two elimination losses. It seems to be that Johnny cracks under pressure when he isn't being protected by his alliance.

[quote=faceless;85520]And that's why he isn't at the end.[/quote] Wes won the Duel 1. I would not underestimate Wes because he's a strong competitor.