RW/RR Challenge: The Ruins - Spoilers & Speculation

[quote=rw/rrjunkie;66673]Agree TJ, Casey is so uselss in any competition. She doesn't even try, Like the flying leap challenge on The Duel, she wouldn't even jump! Shauvon seems weak, but I'm not gonna judge her.[/quote] I don't know, I guess she has that cocky swagger that all the fresh meat kids have. Except, she can't perform at all, there is no reason for her to be cocky. She just annoys me more than anything. I never liked Shauvon, my dislike for her has nothing to do with the Diem/ CT situation.

Yea that attitude doesn't seem to suite Casey at all, because ¡t doesn't match her performance. I dislike all the fresh meat kids. I would choose Casey over Diem, Diem is so lame and she always want someone to feel bad for her, and that's annoying.

[quote=rw/rrjunkie;66675]Yea that attitude doesn't seem to suite Casey at all, because ¡t doesn't match her performance. I dislike all the fresh meat kids. I would choose Casey over Diem, Diem is so lame and she [B]always want someone to feel bad for her,[/B] and that's annoying.[/quote] Please explain this?

[quote=rw/rrjunkie;66675]Yea that attitude doesn't seem to suite Casey at all, because ¡t doesn't match her performance. I dislike all the fresh meat kids. I would choose Casey over Diem, Diem is so lame and she always want someone to feel bad for her, and that's annoying.[/quote] I don't really dislike any of them, but they are cocky. I used to think that about Diem, but she has grown on me.

[quote=RMD1;66678]Please explain this?[/quote] I'm pretty sure he's talking about Diem having cancer, and always making it some big issue whenever she gets picked for elimination rounds. That is exactly why I couldn't stand her, but she didn't really bother me on G3 except for when they were deliberating about Coral. She was like "I think we should put someone in who could beat her." Yeah cause if she went against Coral she would lose. LOL.

Thanks for having my back TJ lol :)

[quote=rw/rrjunkie;66692]Thanks for having my back TJ lol :)[/quote] Just stating the obvious...again. That is why a lot of people don't like her. You should see some other stuff that is said about her on other forums, but I won't get into that.

I wonder/hope that a lot of these people are in the peek shape. I see Ev is in good shape. But I saw a picture of Derrick from G2, and I think that was his peek shape besides MAYBE The Island but he was pretty ripped and fit looking in G2. I think he let go of himself for Duel 2. And I know Brad looked like he got bigger for Duel 2 but big isn't everything. Wonder about Wes and Darrell also.

Diem' body always looks great, Ibis has been a the gym and her body looks fantastic! She looks all muscle I think she has more strength them most competitors, Derrick always works out for every challenge (he said in an interview once), and of course EV ' body is sick!

[quote=V1man;66586]Since this board welcomes people of all lifestyles, could you tell us if this is a good or bad thing? :devil2:[/quote] Definetly bad on Veronica's part.

[QUOTE=Zachary;66704]Definetly bad on Veronica's part.[/QUOTE] That was not my question... :dash3:

LOL. then good thing. [EMAIL="LOL@all"]LOL@all[/EMAIL] walks of life.

[quote=rw/rrjunkie;66699]Diem' body always looks great, Ibis has been a the gym and her body looks fantastic! She looks all muscle I think she has more strength them most competitors, Derrick always works out for every challenge (he said in an interview once), and of course EV ' body is sick![/quote] Derrick didn't seem to be as fit on Duel, he had a gut, and on I3 he had no time to work out for obvious reasons. Fresh Meat he seemed fit too but it just seems like G2/ The Island seemed to be when he was in best shape. Anyways, I hope he wins. But I don't know. =(

I wonder how Chet is doing.

Dratagnan I know! And The Duel is nowhere near finish lol. The cast is only gonna be in Thailand for 3 weeks.

[quote=V1man;66562]A poster in another thread speculated on Veronica's ability to manipulate people to do her bidding. I responded there with: In this thread, I can say more. Rachel and Evelyn are friends away from TV. This puts Evelyn in the anti-Veronica camp. Tonya's history with V is always a 'gang vs. 1' situation. T will take advantage of the 1-on-1 this time. I have reason to believe that both Evelyn and Tonya have specific strategies for dealing with Veronica. First, Evelyn has carefully studied Viewers' Revenge and talked to people who know how Veronica was intentionally isolated there. Evelyn's natural alliance with the other women is so broad that Veronica really has no one. [B]If the game is two teams, gauntlet style[/B], then look for the "winners" team to throw a mission so that the "challengers will save Susie and send in Evelyn, who will then pick Veronica (and Evelyn will have her team's support) Goodbye V. Where do others line up in this scenario? To win at the end as a team, the guys know they need Evelyn's strengths, and Evelyn can consistently deliver at least five votes from the other team, possibly seven. Those who Evelyn can't control will be as risk for going into the pit and will not be saved. Susie is their weakest woman (because she is the smallest), but Susie has a good relationship/friendship with Johanna (through 3rd parties), Ibis and Tonya (yes, even after the "I have Tonya Because" stuff). She will build a solid relationship with Evelyn, because they will be the only two true intellectuals in the house and will have only each other to talk to. Susie's connection to Katie was likely secured for her before the game by their mutual friend, Tori. Thus, the guys will recognize that V is a liability and must go in. Tonya's strategy is likely more confrontational, asking the challengers to pick her so she can call out Veronica. Again, T will have her team's support because of her solid alliance with Evelyn. How Eve and Tonya will decide who gets to take V out is the unanswered question for me. If, however, the game is Fresh Meat style pairings, then look for the rest of the Winners group to work hard to pair V with Chet, thereby accomplishing "Viewer's Revenge" II.[/quote] I'm sorry Ev studied Viewers Revenge, that seems a little over the top. Ev needs to get a life and not take these things so serriously. This whole plan to deal with Veronica also seems a little over the top its just little old Veronica. Ev better just hope there are not "mummy" pits.

Why is Ev "over the top" for doing her research Asamber? Studying the competitions tactics before battle is quite common and known to be a smart thing to do.

[quote=OtherPplsDrama;66727]Why is Ev "over the top" for doing her research Asamber? Studying the competitions tactics before battle is quite common and known to be a smart thing to do.[/quote] Its a Real World/Road Rules Challenge, not War.

I said nothing about war, only competition.

I think Veronica will go far, well I hope she goes far. She makes GREAT TV. I think sometimes she can perform really well and sometimes she is all talk. In the Gauntlet 1, she won 2 missions and the lifesaver ("Turntables" and "Dukes Of Saturn"). In the Inferno 1, she fairly won one of the mission and lifesaver, so who knows.

[quote=asamber1;66729]Its a Real World/Road Rules Challenge, not War.[/quote] But it's for serious stuff, money. If you got offered a chance to win a ton of money and had an opportunity to see who you were up against and see what you could do against them. Would you? I would.

[QUOTE=rw/rrjunkie;66724]Dratagnan I know! And The Duel is nowhere near finish lol. The cast is only gonna be in Tailand for 3 weeks.[/QUOTE] The challenge has not yet started and the return date is Jun 6, longer than 3 weeks. Where do you get your info? You source needs some help. :) :help:

[quote=faceless;66733]But it's for serious stuff, money. If you got offered a chance to win a ton of money and had an opportunity to see who you were up against and see what you could do against them. Would you? I would.[/quote] I love when people say its serious money on a RW/RR Challenge. Years ago [maybe around Gauntlet 2 airtime] Newsday [a NY Newspaper] had a funny caption under a picture for the new season of the challenge. It was something along the line why watch people fight for real money [One Million Dollars and a Survivor Reference was mentioned], but watch people got crazy for just a couple grand [RW/RR Challenge Reference to the new season]. Looking back it might have been for the Inferno 2, i forget. If you go on a challenge looking to get Rich your a moron, and if you go on cause you need the money you should look into getting a job. Like i'll try to make a comparison [for the study thing]. I can see a reason why a professional baseball team would watch other teams strat, and game play. But i dont think it would make sense for a little league team to do the same. The RW/RR Challenge fall into a little league category for me. It just seems excessive and uncecessary.

[QUOTE=asamber1;66729]Its a Real World/Road Rules Challenge, not War.[/QUOTE] That is just beyond logic -- as is your previous comment. The challenge is a game. You can either play it fully or sit on your *** while other play. Evelyn, I suspect, is rather happy with her life, and since she is a member here, [B]you have no right to insult her. In fact it is a rules violation.[/B] As it is, the words regarding her are my interpretations of her intent. Thus, perhaps you think I need a life, too?

[quote=asamber1;66737]I love when people say its serious money on a RW/RR Challenge. Years ago [maybe around Gauntlet 2 airtime] Newsday [a NY Newspaper] had a funny caption under a picture for the new season of the challenge. It was something along the line why watch people fight for real money [One Million Dollars and a Survivor Reference was mentioned], but watch people got crazy for just a couple grand [RW/RR Challenge Reference to the new season]. Looking back it might have been for the Inferno 2, i forget. If you go on a challenge looking to get Rich your a moron, and if you go on cause you need the money you should look into getting a job. Like i'll try to make a comparison [for the study thing]. I can see a reason why a professional baseball team would watch other teams strat, and game play. But i dont think it would make sense for a little league team to do the same. The RW/RR Challenge fall into a little league category for me. It just seems excessive and uncecessary.[/quote] I'm sure 99% of the people who go on these Challenges have lives and flourishing careers. I'm pretty sure Ev falls into that percentile. I'm also pretty sure that when V said she "studied" Veronica on RRVR, he meant that she watched the season and was able to pinpoint her weaknesses, which I'm sure most of us have seen as well.

[quote=cystic;66745]I'm sure 99% of the people who go on these Challenges have lives and flourishing careers. I'm pretty sure Ev falls into that percentile. I'm also pretty sure that when V said she "studied" Veronica on RRVR, he meant that she watched the season and was able to pinpoint her weaknesses, which I'm sure most of us have seen as well.[/quote] If Ev simply just watched the season thats one thing. But when V said "studied" i pictured her sitting down in front of a tv for the day with a copy of VR and watching it taking notes of Veronica. So clearly my take on the word studied was wrong. But as you can see from the way i pictured it, its a tad over the top. I think its odd how Ev would ever know Veronica was going to be on the challenge considering i doubt they talk.

The challenge might not be tons of money but it is definitely good money. And overall it is a game. Evelyn is a definitely a competitor and wants to win...it's good to know your enemy's weaknesses so why not study up on someone. I would.