Dollhouse

[quote=jake93;54865]Well then I hope it's at least good enough to renew for another season....[/quote] I can tell you right now that 4 million is not a renew number. Heck, 5 million isn't a renew number. Chuck and Heroes are in the mid 6 million range and they are considered on the bubble... But hey, I won't burst your bubble, lol. [COLOR=#FF6600][/COLOR]

[quote=RockSteadyVybes;54867]Fox actually stand behind Joss? Not a chance. We'd be [B]incredibly[/B] lucky if we see anymore than 8 episodes. [B]Only 2 left =/[/B][/quote] 2 episodes? Naw. I think Season 1 had a 13 episode order. [url=http://www.dollverse.com/2009/03/and-episode-13-is-called.html]Dollverse - Inside FOX's Dollhouse: And episode 13 is called...[/url]

And Dollhouse got...[b]3.8 million[/b] viewers.

[quote=jake93;55865]FOXDollhouse3.871.3/4 Those were the ratings for last nights episode.[/quote] Stick a fork in it! :laugh1:

Is this still on?

[quote=Bacchus;55866]Stick a fork in it! :laugh1:[/quote] Lol. I'm wondering how well it'll do if they moved it out of the Friday lineup.

[quote=jake93;55869]Lol. I'm wondering how well it'll do if they moved it out of the Friday lineup.[/quote] That is like wondering how well The Real World would do if it ran at 9PM on Tuesdays after American Idol on Fox. The answer is better of course, but never going to happen... The truth be told, it just isn't that good and the only people who are watching at this point are Whedonites and those who don't have digital cable and don't like basketball. :p

[quote=RockSteadyVybes;55901]You have to admit though - the past two episodes have been FANTASTIC. Fox should've just let Whedon do it the way he wanted to from the beginning. It's so much more interesting now.[/quote] I'm with you that they should have let him do the show he wanted. It is really to bad. And then to give it the death time slot... I'd watch this show, but I know it is dead. I am sure there are many viewers like me.

I agree, RSV. This show's good, they'd be stupid to cancel this show! Next week's looks good as well.

[URL="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/04/friday-ratings-cbs-wins-with-mostly-repeats-dollhouse-looks-done/15945"]The results for [B][I]Dollhouse [/I][/B]should finally end any discussion of the show’s renewal prospects[/URL]

[quote=Bacchus;57608][URL="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/04/friday-ratings-cbs-wins-with-mostly-repeats-dollhouse-looks-done/15945"]The results for [B][I]Dollhouse [/I][/B]should finally end any discussion of the show’s renewal prospects[/URL][/quote] Well, it was nice while it lasted :(

I know I haven't been around lately, and I hate to say it, sorry Nick. Sorry Joss. I'm not that into this show. Which is very disappointing. I'm not expecting a renewal, even if the ratings were good.

[url=http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/04/fox-leaning-toward-dollhouse-renewal.html]Spoiler TV: Fox Leaning Toward 'Dollhouse' Renewal[/url] [url=http://www.airlockalpha.com/news426236.html]Fox Leaning Toward 'Dollhouse' Renewal | Airlock Alpha[/url] So i'm not getting my hopes up, but I think it's worth posting! :) [QUOTE]The Fox network is just a step away from shaking up its Friday lineup for the 2009-10 season, canning one show and considering a move to a new night for a second. Let's hit the good news first. Airlock Alpha has learned that Fox is looking to give its struggling "Dollhouse" a second season, to see if it can grow some legs on a new night. Fox had originally intended "Dollhouse" to air Mondays with "24," but Fox instead decided to move "House" to that spot to replace "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles," and to create sort of a genre theme night on Fridays. The audience for "Dollhouse" are not exactly where Fox had hoped they would be, however, critical reaction to later episodes following its February premiere has grown more positive toward the series as it has had the chance to flesh itself out. Showrunner Joss Whedon had said ahead of its premiere that he had gone back to retool certain aspects of the show, including using a new premiere episode than what was originally planned, eventually canning what would have been the premiere. The move seems to be an easy one for Fox. While the audience hasn't been as large as expected, it has instead remained stable. It's not a number that Fox uses, but "Dollhouse" carries a BlipNetwork Stability Index Rating of 92.0, better than every other network genre show currently on television outside of "Reaper" on The CW, which has a 94.7. A Stability Index Rating is the comparison of the show's highest overnight rating and its average overnight rating to see how much of its overall audience a show has retained. Other factors in favor of the show continuing is that it's not as expensive as other Fox shows. Much of its upfront costs, including the construction of the elaborate set that is the dollhouse itself, were covered by funds that normally would've paid for a pilot (no pilot was made for "Dollhouse"). Also, while Whedon's Mutant Enemy Productions and star Eliza Dushku's Boston Diva Productions are tied to the series, 20th Century Fox Television is still the primary production company involved, which means its licensing fee is not as steep as it would be if the show was produced by another studio. That, along with ratings, is one of the aspects killing "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles." That show is set to end its second season April 10 after a 22-episode run, but its sophomore season has been nothing but a complete struggle. After a so-so debut on Mondays and never finding its grip after that with audiences, Fox teetered on canceling the show until surprisingly deciding to give it a full-season pickup and moving it to Fridays as a lead-in to "Dollhouse." Rumors were that Warner Bros. Television, which produces the show, slashed its licensing fee to prompt a pickup as a way to help it promote its upcoming "Terminator: Salvation," which premieres May 21. Once "Salvation" premieres, it seems Warner Bros. will have little use to keep "Sarah Connor" on the air, and likely will not continue to provide a licensing fee discount for a third season. That almost assuredly will allow Fox to make the move it normally would've done before New Year's, and that's cancel the show. Last year, "Sarah Connor" had the worst Stability Index Rating of all network genre shows, mostly from its inflated series premiere following the National Football League playoffs. This year, it's Stability Index Rating is stronger, but out of 14 network genre show tracked by Airlock Alpha this season, "Sarah Connor" is ranked 13th. Only "Life On Mars" had a worse Stability Index Rating, mostly from its freefall following its move from Thursdays against "Eleventh Hour" to Wednesdays following "Lost." Of course, none of this has been confirmed by Fox, so it should be treated as any rumor would, meaning information can change, or could even be wrong. "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" airs Fridays at 8 p.m. ET on Fox. "Dollhouse" airs Fridays at 9 p.m. ET on Fox.[/QUOTE]

[quote=RockSteadyVybes;58013]Jake...thanks for the gleam of hope! I'm keeping my fingers CROSSED! It's not over 'til its over![/quote] Your welcome!

[quote=Kathleen;57783]I'm not that into this show. Which is very disappointing. I'm not expecting a renewal, even if the ratings were good.[/quote] I'm with you Kathleen. Even if the show was by some stroke of Fox desperation renewed, I wouldn't watch. If I was a huge Joss fan (which obviously I'm not) I'd hope that he would move on to other projects that had more hope of long term survival as well as providing a bit more satisfaction to the viewer. I can't see this dollhouse plot going that far and even if it was moved to another night, it would be lucky to add a few million viewers (i.e. going from 3.5 million to 5.5 million) which would still make it a failure. Finally, I've never heard of airlock alpha. When Variety or Hollywood Insider report something similar, I might listen - even though it would just mean that they would be setting the audience up for a bigger failure when they canceled it 5 episodes in next fall... As for a glimmer of hope, Prison Break might pull in a slightly larger audience for Dollhouse to build off of, although if they show poor retention out of PB, it will surely be the death knell.

Oh, BTW: [URL="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/06/dont-believe-what-you-read-without-ratings-improvement-dollhouse-wont-return/16054"]Don’t believe what you read, without ratings improvement, Dollhouse won’t return[/URL] [quote][..] these kind of stories seem to suggest that while the ratings are worse than even FOX expected them to be on Friday nights, that FOX is mesmerized by the critical acclaim for recent episodes. Simply put, that’s complete BS.[/quote]

[URL="http://twitter.com/feliciaday/status/1485047992"]Twitter / Felicia Day: Man, day getting worse and ...[/URL] Felicia Day - who played Vi on Buffy - just posted on twitter that they won't be airing the episode she's in, which is Episode 13. Edit: [URL]http://twitter.com/feliciaday/status/1485408550[/URL] Felicia thinks they're airing 12 as the season (possibly series) finale...anyone know who to email to ask about this?

[SIZE=7][B]Shocker!!![/B][/SIZE] Oh, wait. Nevermind. ;)

Slightly better... 3.56 million viewers

Dollhouse, off last week, did a 1.9/3 in its return, averaging a series-low 2.99 million viewers.

[quote=Bacchus;63260]Dollhouse, off last week, did a 1.9/3 in its return, averaging a series-low 2.99 million viewers.[/quote] RIP Dollhouse; and once again, Fox screws over Joss Whedon.

For those who have missed Dollhouse, it's available at [url=http://www.hulu.com]Hulu - Watch your favorites. Anytime. For free.[/url]