The Island: Episode 4 - Discussion

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[quote=cystic;31966]It'd be neat to have a first female host on these things. Ya know?[/quote] Good idea Cystic!!! I will do some searching and see what I can come up with. [QUOTE]Is it a rule that the host has to be a professional extreme sports dude?[/QUOTE] Well that is all that they have had, So I suggested Ryan since he is already affiliated with MTV. That and he seems like a nice down to earth kid!
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I agree.. Ryan Sheckler doesn't [I]seem[/I] bad...
What about Gretchen Bleiler? She's quite arguably the best female snowboarder in the world. Though she might not want to host...
Power to Johnny Bananas and Kenny!! I love them in this challenge. This is not an alliance....it is a MOB!! :D
[QUOTE] Paula takes up space on the planet. What use is she other than as the poster child for stupidity. [/QUOTE][url=http://www.challengedailies.com/Video/Thank-You-Paul-Walnuts/0A4E2FFFF0183BC5C001700A2BE7B]Challenge Dailies - ContentDetail[/url] Dunbar disagrees.
[QUOTE=compelletospeak;32038][url=http://www.challengedailies.com/Video/Thank-You-Paul-Walnuts/0A4E2FFFF0183BC5C001700A2BE7B]Challenge Dailies - ContentDetail[/url] Dunbar disagrees.[/QUOTE] My opinion up against Dunbar's. I guess I should be scared shitless, huh? [QUOTE=Ashes;32035]Power to Johnny Bananas and Kenny!! I love them in this challenge. [/QUOTE] I'm very surprised that you, of all people, here would celebrate their misogyny.
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[quote=V1man;32041] [B]misogyny[/B].[/quote] oooooh.... here we go!! ;)
[QUOTE=Insider;32044]oooooh.... here we go!! ;)[/QUOTE] I'm only using that as they are joined at the hip on this challenge. Individually, when separated from each other, you know I'm giving Kenny some space on this subject.
[quote=V1man;32046]I'm only using that as they are joined at the hip on this challenge. Individually, when separated from each other, you know I'm giving Kenny some space on this subject.[/quote] This challenge shines light on some personality aspects that may have not been so highlighted in previous challenges I believe. Honestly never knew that Kenny and Johnny were good friends either.
[QUOTE=GoldenWarrior;32047]This challenge shines light on some personality aspects that may have not been so highlighted in previous challenges I believe. Honestly never knew that Kenny and Johnny were good friends either.[/QUOTE] Insider may be able to educate us about that. I don't know that they are good friends away from The Island.
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[quote=V1man;32046]I'm only using that as they are joined at the hip on this challenge. Individually, when separated from each other, you know I'm giving Kenny some space on this subject.[/quote] I know. I'm just teasing. I've already beat the "Kenny defense horse" to death anyway.. I'm picking my battles these days. I understand your intentions when you say that...
[quote=V1man;32049]Insider may be able to educate us about that. I don't know that they are good friends away from The Island.[/quote] Well Johnny made the comment "this kid will probably be at my wedding someday" during the first week and I didn't know they were good friends. But hey they probably are good friends in The Island because Kenny needed a strong alliance partner.
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[quote=V1man;32049]Insider may be able to educate us about that. I don't know that they are good friends away from The Island.[/quote] You know.. I don't really know if they are great friends outside of The Island either. I know Kenny spends a good amount of time with Paula.. She shares her season with JB.. so that's some common ground. Plus, as much as I hate to admit it.. they have some similar personality traits. I think they're just meshing well.
[QUOTE=GoldenWarrior;32051]Well Johnny made the comment "this kid will probably be at my wedding someday" during the first week and I didn't know they were good friends. But hey they probably are good friends in The Island because Kenny needed a strong alliance partner.[/QUOTE] At this point I assume that all comments that JB makes have some intended purpose. I don't believe anything he says except when he is intentionally degrading another person. Those things I believe the means to the fullest extent possible.
[quote=V1man;32061]At this point I assume that all comments that JB makes have some intended purpose. I don't believe anything he says except when he is intentionally degrading another person. Those things I believe the means to the fullest extent possible.[/quote] Very true indeed, his remarks are very cutting and meant to be that way.
[quote=Insider;32052]Plus, as much as I hate to admit it.. they have some similar personality traits. [/quote] Johnny is clearly a verbally abusive, disturbed individual. I hope Kenny does not have too much in common with him...
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Johnny def seems to be angry about something. I think he needs some therapy.
[QUOTE=Insider;32090]Johnny def seems to be angry about something. I think he needs some therapy.[/QUOTE] I agree completely, but would it do any good? [CENTER][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/ddgarner/jfa1179l.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER]
[quote=V1man;32109]I agree completely, but would it do any good? [CENTER] [/CENTER] [/quote] I don't have my clinical lisence quite yet...but I would diagnose him as Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which is diagnosed by the following: pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by [B]five (or more)[/B] of the following:[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder#cite_note-DSMcrit-0"][COLOR=#0066cc][1][/COLOR][/URL] [LIST=1] [*]has a grandiose sense of self-importance [*]is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love [*]believes that he or she is "special" and unique [*]requires excessive admiration [*]has a sense of entitlement [*]is interpersonally exploitative [*]lacks [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy"][COLOR=#0066cc]empathy[/COLOR][/URL] [*]is often [I]envious[/I] of others or believes others are [I]envious[/I] of him or her [*]shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes [/LIST](stolen from wikipedia since I keep my DSM-IV in my desk at work.)
But you know he will get an even thicker head because you have diagnosed him... It is the nature of the beast.
[quote=V1man;32041]My opinion up against Dunbar's. I guess I should be scared shitless, huh?[/quote] maybe, us Mississippi boys are crazy! ;)
[quote=roundables;31922]-Dunbar, is a narcissist on high. Nothing is dude's fault ever. His attempt to come off as a swell guy is pitiful. You want to be the "nice guy" but you hook up with Johnny and Kenny? And, I don't think Kelly Anne was too far off the mark calling him a closet case. A couple of drinks and I bet he'd be more than willing.[/quote] And what is the basis for your opinion? Are we even watching the same guy? He is a cool guy, nothing narcissistic about him. Him being in the alliance with Johnny and Kenny is good strategy (although I can't stand those two). That is better than aligning himself with his pitiful cast (Ashli is too naive for the game, KA creates too much drama and makes herself an easy target, and Cohutta is invisible). Need I say more?
[QUOTE=iamnemesis666;32315]And what is the basis for your opinion? Are we even watching the same guy? He is a cool guy, nothing narcissistic about him. Him being in the alliance with Johnny and Kenny is good strategy (although I can't stand those two). That is better than aligning himself with his pitiful cast (Ashli is too naive for the game, KA creates too much drama and makes herself an easy target, and Cohutta is invisible). Need I say more?[/QUOTE] I don't have to have a basis for my opinion. It's just that my opinion. He goes out of his way to paint himself as the victim. And, make everything always about everybody ganging up on him to make his life miserable. IF you like whiners than Dunbar is your man.
[QUOTE=roundables;32322]I don't have to have a basis for my opinion. It's just that my opinion. He goes out of his way to paint himself as the victim. And, make everything always about everybody ganging up on him to make his life miserable. IF you like whiners than Dunbar is your man.[/QUOTE] I'd agree that your opinion is the edit of Dunbar that BMP seems intent to give us. He actually does have some friends and supporters among the cast who are not part of the alliance; though, so maybe they are seeing something we are not.
[quote=V1man;32325]I'd agree that your opinion is the edit of Dunbar that BMP seems intent to give us. He actually does have some friends and supporters among the cast who are not part of the alliance; though, so maybe they are seeing something we are not.[/quote] Dunbar is a double edged sword, he can be an ***, is conceited, but BMP edits him to make him look more of a monster than he really is. But thats just the nature of the beast with reality television. Sydney he was made out to look worse than he was (but like I said, he is no saint) He's really just a Mississippi meat head, who's a little conceited and very "southern"
I didn't watch Sydney, maybe I should've. So this is probably a very stupid question but.. What is is about Dunbar that seems to bother everyone?
[quote=tjboston;32385]I didn't watch Sydney, maybe I should've. So this is probably a very stupid question but.. What is is about Dunbar that seems to bother everyone?[/quote] The cheating on the girlfriend part. ;)
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[quote=tjboston;32385]I didn't watch Sydney, maybe I should've. So this is probably a very stupid question but.. What is is about Dunbar that seems to bother everyone?[/quote] If you go read some of the RW Sydney threads....he treated his girlfriend like crap on that season, [I]and[/I] cheated on her with Ashli....that is where a lot of the "bad blood" comes from around here I think....(at least for me!) EDIT: LoL Bacc you beat me! ;)
[quote=Bacchus;32386]The cheating on the girlfriend part. ;)[/quote] Well, that'll do it. Thanks Bacchus.
I feel Johnny maybe be the end of KellyAnne's time on the Island. He seems to be constantly trying to throw her into a face-off. Hopefully she can avoid them, or go in and win again. I still have hopes for her, with that comment that Fatemeh left on her Myspace page, and the fact that she hadn't logged in until after the challenge had ended. So I'm just keeping my fingers crossed!

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